Yes but you'd figure they would have determined New Eden's distance from Sol before the gate collapse. Though I guess even that information was probably lost after its collapse.

Yes but you'd figure they would have determined New Eden's distance from Sol before the gate collapse. Though I guess even that information was probably lost after its collapse.

So in theory does anyone know an estimate on how far Sol is from New Eden?

One thing to consider is that we can only see possibly a very small part of the universe and there may be much of the universe that's moving away from Sol faster than light(due to expansion), so it's quite realistic to pop out of a wormhole and have no real way to know where you are relative to where you came from.

23000 Light years from the bits and pieces I have picked up over the years.

23000 Light years from the bits and pieces I have picked up over the years.

We'll... New Eden is located in some server park in London. On a planet which is orbiting Sol. So I'd say about 1 AU.

The USS Voyager from Star Trek got lost 75,000+ light years from Earth. Different universe, same distance measurement. Im also fairly certain IRL we can observe 23,000 light years, so assuming the colonies of Sol were more advanced than us, they could have easily been able to tell where Sol, and how far.

The USS Voyager from Star Trek got lost 75,000+ light years from Earth. Different universe, same distance measurement. Im also fairly certain IRL we can observe 23,000 light years, so assuming the colonies of Sol were more advanced than us, they could have easily been able to tell where Sol, and how far.

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For all we know... the people who originally entered New Eden could have been going backward or forward in time!! The year on Earth could easily be either 1997 or 47590.

If you do a "get info" on stars, you will see some are quite old, like over 40 billion years. That is quite hard to have in a 13.7 billion year old universe. I thought this was a hidden part of cannon, and wrote it up that way as part of one of the abstracts I wrote for Site One in Eram. That is, the stars are old the New Eden wormhole traversed 30+ billion years along with an unknown amount of space, and our pilots are actually in the far, far future. It was rejected by CCP Dorpbear. He said he was uncomfortable making that large a change in the lore.

Which means it was a change, we are not in the far, far future.

Observable Universe
tldr: "the edge of the observable universe (what we can actually see) at about 46GÇô47 billion light-years away"

In practical terms terms though...
- our current ability to directly observe specific stars (with any fidelity) is limited within a few dozen to a hundred or so light years.
- our current ability to "measure" specific stars is limited to within our local cluster of galaxies.

Beyond this... specific objects (and even clusters of objects) get a little fuzzy.


Here is the issue with observing things in space though; the farther out you look, the further back in time you are seeing.

For example: The Pillars of Creation are one of the most famous parts of the Eagle Nebula... about 6000 light-years away. However... there is some evidence that suggests this part of the Nebula was destroyed by a supernova "quite recently."
Now... if this event happened 6000 years ago and we are just now seeing evidence of it... it means that for the last 6000 years we have been seeing something that does not even exist. A "ghost" if you will.
On the other hand... if this event has JUST happened then it will be another 6000 years before we see it. Unless we go there ourselves.


In the case of New Eden... the lore never mentioned how far away it was from the Milky Way and Sol system. All that was said was "none of the stars were familiar" and "it was on the other side of the universe."

If New Eden is a mere 5+ billion light years away (not an unreasonable distance as far as the universe is concerned)... it might not even exist from Earth's perspective (because the light from the cluster has not reached Earth yet). This works in reverse too and with all stars in general.


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Another fun thing to consider is that wormholes are openings in space AND time... and crazy things can happen with that.

Some examples:
- you exit the wormhole (on the other side) before you even enter it.
- you exit the wormhole just as you enter it (like walking through a door).
- you exit the wormhole just as you enter it (from an outsider's perspective)... but you spend several hours, days, or even years inside it (ex. the movie "Contact")
- you enter the wormhole and there is a delay when you exit it (this is the behavior most used by TV and movies).
- some combination of the above.

For all we know... the people who originally entered New Eden could have been going backward or forward in time!! The year on Earth could easily be either 1997 or 47590.

If you do a "get info" on stars, you will see some are quite old, like over 40 billion years. That is quite hard to have in a 13.7 billion year old universe. I thought this was a hidden part of cannon, and wrote it up that way as part of one of the abstracts I wrote for Site One in Eram. That is, the stars are old the New Eden wormhole traversed 30+ billion years along with an unknown amount of space, and our pilots are actually in the far, far future. It was rejected by CCP Dorpbear. He said he was uncomfortable making that large a change in the lore.

Which means it was a change, we are not in the far, far future.

Alternatively the universe could only be a few billion years old in New Eden, considering that the cluster is so dense. (20 stars within 5 LY of eachother) Basically, space hasn't been expanding long enough to create vast distances between objects.