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Malicious Wraith
The Dark Side of the Moon
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:22:00 -
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Discuss and Sign
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Havana Runner
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:24:00 -
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Sign
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K0TT0S
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:25:00 -
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sign
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Havana Runner
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:25:00 -
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Sign...
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Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:25:00 -
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why ?
Ķause short range isnt viable ? Or because it takes too long to fetch the cans ?
I dont see an issue either way tbh, pve doesnt need to become easier in any way.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:26:00 -
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I'm torn on this. It is wrong that short range ships get gimped in this manner, but it is also wrong that it becomes trivially easy to kite enemies using long range weapons.
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Malicious Wraith
The Dark Side of the Moon
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:26:00 -
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 Originally by: Rod Blaine
why ?
Ķause short range isnt viable ? Or because it takes too long to fetch the cans ?
I dont see an issue either way tbh, pve doesnt need to become easier in any way.
So that I can MWD towards the mission runners to kill them.
Lol
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Suki Kyuuket
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:27:00 -
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/signed
Or at least let MWDs work in deadspace with a speed penalty.
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente
Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:27:00 -
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Not sure why they wouldnt be allowed in the first place.
My sig was nerfed.. im not happy -Mtt
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Tek'a Rain
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:28:00 -
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why?
deadspace lack of MWD allows devs and content designers to really decide how players will move through an area. same as the accel gates parking your ship exactly where its wanted. Im not saying its always fun.. but thats how things work.
Center For Advanced Studies
Drone Research and Enhancement Dept |
Waz Hawat
Nubs.
Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:33:00 -
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Who cares how you move through a deadspace area? It's not like you have a set path you travel. I would love to see MWD in deadspace so that I could actually use blasters in PVE, or to go tackle people running complexes.
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ArcAngel
Genos Occidere
Thundering Mantis
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:34:00 -
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/sign
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Eno Matterre
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:36:00 -
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NPCs use MWDs in deadspace, why can't we?
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arkarsk
Provenance.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:36:00 -
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If you have the key.. wouldnt you just be able to mwd over to the next gate untill you get to the overseer?
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Justice Starcatcher
Asguard Security Service
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:38:00 -
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If you allowed MWD, then it wouldn't be deadspace. So they will never allow them, nor should they, EVER!
If you want to make an impact jump to the Game development forum, and put in your idea in for an "enviroment" that you want.
ie: Ion Storm-MWD require 50% less cap to run...
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lofty29
Gallente
Praxiteles Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Eno Matterre
NPCs use MWDs in deadspace, why can't we?
Everyone knows NPCs use h4x. I mean, concord dont even shoot them in hi-sec 
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Malicious Wraith
The Dark Side of the Moon
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: arkarsk
If you have the key.. wouldnt you just be able to mwd over to the next gate untill you get to the overseer?
Webs ftw.
And not being able to jump until the rats are dead ftw.
Both of these are already in place, are they not?
I hate seeing all mwd ships gimped, and this is gonna ruin pvp as well.
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Pattern Clarc
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Eno Matterre
NPCs use MWDs in deadspace, why can't we?
Everyone knows NPCs use h4x. I mean, concord dont even shoot them in hi-sec
QFT
CONCORD can even enter deadspace. h4x!!
but no, I don't support MWD's in deadspace, there should be more territorial contrains in the game. EG armor resistances going depending on your proximity to the sun.
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Ares Helix
Gallente
NunyaBizzness
Omega Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:10:00 -
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Signed
Nice thought, but ccp are intent on nerfing missions and complexes, so it won't happen.
They made *ME* a General?
What were all the 5 year old sissy girls busy?
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lofty29
Gallente
Praxiteles Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Pattern Clarc
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Eno Matterre
NPCs use MWDs in deadspace, why can't we?
Everyone knows NPCs use h4x. I mean, concord dont even shoot them in hi-sec
QFT
CONCORD can even enter deadspace. h4x!!
but no, I don't support MWD's in deadspace, there should be more territorial contrains in the game. EG armor resistances going depending on your proximity to the sun.
Then we get a bunch of caldari blobs sitting at the sun 
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Eno Matterre
NPCs use MWDs in deadspace, why can't we?
Because you could just use an inty with a MWD and "tank" entire 10/10 complexes with it because all NPCs go after the first target.
Or for solo work MWD at longrange and snipe everything till kingdom come without getting damage.
Both things which can be fixed with some effort, but until this is done don#t expect to be able to use a MWD in deadspace.
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:15:00 -
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/signed
mission runners need to die, support MWDs in deadspace so we can save the economy from inflation
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Gustovness
Broken Cannon
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:17:00 -
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Really, I don't see the point of not allowing MWDs in complexes. I mean, really, how would allowing MWDs make the PvE "easier"? If I could see some major advnatage apparent in allowing such mods, then fine, let CCP balance the game, but I just don't see the logic. Am I missing something?
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Nev Clavain
Wise Guys
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:19:00 -
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HOnestly, the reason you shouldn't be able to use mwds in deadspace is because all missions would then be done as follows:
1 Interceptor built for huge speed and a bit of tank 6000 m/s +. "The Sheepdog"
2 1 BAttleship fitted without tank, and for pure gankage "The cannon"
Interceptor pilot whizzes in and aggros every rat on the screen. and proceed to make a large orbit (say 40km) while not a single rat can hit him or get close, and will get rounded up into a huge herd in the centre of the inty's orbit.
The cannon then blasts every rat in double quick time, move onto the next stage.
Even the hardest missions would become totally easy mode for two fairly low-skilled pilots. That is why no mwd in deadspace, unless you want to make the rats alot harder to compensate.
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Gonada
Gallente
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:22:00 -
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not bloody likley, you want speed, you equip a afterburner.
pirates and wow people must have brought up and /sign'd this idea methinks.
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Aliniel Vitissun
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:33:00 -
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Well then, why don't we disallow the rats to use MWD? If leveling the playing field is what we want, anyways. They're using the exploit that NPCs can use MWDs in deadspace to gank poor mission and complex runners! Nerf!
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Aliniel Vitissun
Well then, why don't we disallow the rats to use MWD? If leveling the playing field is what we want, anyways. They're using the exploit that NPCs can use MWDs in deadspace to gank poor mission and complex runners! Nerf!
Hm, guess the rats have to be controlled by humans then.
Seriously, though initially I was against the prohibition of MWD in deadspace I realise the NPC would be far too easy to "kite".
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Drused
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:51:00 -
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Definitely not signed.
CCP has been talking about various 'environmental effects' for a while now. Deadspace is one of those effects. I would like to see more effects that affect various aspects of game play, not less.
Besides, allowing MWD in Deadspace will make it way to easy.
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Demon Womb
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.02 23:32:00 -
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/not signed
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
The Phantom Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.02 23:35:00 -
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"Its time to allow...." not gonna happen if topics start like this. Frig rais in complexes is overpowered. Not gonna happen. Use AB and nanos instead.
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