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Shirazz
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:32:00 -
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Im doing about 80 dmg a shot with tech 2 heavy pulses(conflag) opitmal range with a heat sink on my proph. People say thats good against resistences but my friend does more with his heavy missiles and i have 10X the amout of sp he has in fighting :/ help would be appreciated.
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Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:33:00 -
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autocannons need help.
I was only doing 40 damage against a tanked shield with my barrage and now i'm boohooing cause i'm sad. Please ccp don't let me be sad anymore
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IScorpI
Caldari
QUANT Corp.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:35:00 -
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to the OP, apparently, you're resisted. If you're talking about armor damage... well DUH! there is a base 60% resist to EM damage and 35/40 for thermal. On top of that people usually nano stack with armor tanks, so you're heavily resisted.
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Shirazz
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:38:00 -
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Npe this is against my mates ferox, 60% em resist, cant break his tank and i have 7.5mil sp and he has 1.5mil... heeeelp lol
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K1K1R1K1
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Shirazz
Npe this is against my mates ferox, 60% em resist, cant break his tank and i have 7.5mil sp and he has 1.5mil... heeeelp lol
Ferox's have the strongest tank amongst all bc's... he probably has a thermal resist of around 60-70 along with that em resist of 60. Combined with an insanly high shield cap (prolly 8-12k) and high shield regen... you'll have trouble breaking his tank. If you want a guideline for dps, I get around 320 raw dps from my cyc counting drones, 5 t2 425mm's loaded with barrage, and 3 gyros. It can break a ferox's tank. If you have higher dps and still can't, then tracking might be your issue...
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IScorpI
Caldari
QUANT Corp.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:14:00 -
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The ferox is a natural tanker. But you said that he has 60% resists to EM on his, so given, you wont be able to break his tank becasue you are either arent using multifrequency crystals, or T2 damage, or he is just resisting you to hell with his shield tank.
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twit brent
Dark Centuri Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:36:00 -
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To more accurately compare damage you should be dividing your average hit by your rate of fire and multiplying by the number of laser hardpoints you have. There is no point at all saying you hit for 60 dmg while they hit for 100+ when you get over 2 hits to their one.
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Shirazz
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Posted - 2006.10.03 05:30:00 -
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ok then i get about 106 dps, still isnt enough when i have to get into 6k range to do and and hes not moving. Oh and im using conflag (highest dmg crystal) so dont tell me i need to use multifreq  I have 4mil sp in gunnery and dont do as much dmg as someone with 500ksp in missiles. Bit angry i have also had to spend 20mil to do this kind of dmg  oh and i have tech 2 drones with interfaceing 4. therefore i need help
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Xanidra
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Posted - 2006.10.03 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: Shirazz
ok then i get about 106 dps, still isnt enough when i have to get into 6k range to do and and hes not moving. Oh and im using conflag (highest dmg crystal) so dont tell me i need to use multifreq I have 4mil sp in gunnery and dont do as much dmg as someone with 500ksp in missiles. Bit angry i have also had to spend 20mil to do this kind of dmg oh and i have tech 2 drones with interfaceing 4. therefore i need help
that 106dps. how many guns are you using?
using quickfit, dont have a ferox handy, average dps should be about 40 per gun (with no hs) . but i do have high laser skills.
adding a hs or two will improve things.
Xan.
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Jaeuhl
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Posted - 2006.10.03 07:07:00 -
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If he can't break your tank either, a stalemate isn't losing out to someone with an equally effective tanking system. On the bright side, if you're not using t2 crystals eventually the ferox will run out of ammo.
I would suggest mixing some of the medium lasers with Heavy Pulses and Medium Pulses. You might be able to get a better beat on him recharge rate/shield boosting with a bleeding system. Are you using heavy missiles on your Proph? How about a NOS?
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Complacency's Bane
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Posted - 2006.10.03 07:14:00 -
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Large lasers are fine, medium lasers need a 10-15% decrease in grid requirements, and small lasers need a bit more range (and medium beams need to have their grid requirement dropped by 5).
Problems with lasers solved - next thread.
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Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.10.03 07:15:00 -
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NOS the bastard! While you still can! 
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Killed my sig AGAIN! :p
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.10.03 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sandra Tseng
NOS the bastard! While you still can!
Ferox tanks passive.
RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
Laythun
Undercover Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.03 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Complacency's Bane
Large lasers are fine, medium lasers need a 10-15% decrease in grid requirements, and small lasers need a bit more range (and medium beams need to have their grid requirement dropped by 5).
Problems with lasers solved - next thread.
End yourself.
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Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.10.03 07:42:00 -
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He never said that :)
But ok - then find what drones does the most damage, use them and...
ECM him - while you still can!!! 
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Killed my sig AGAIN! :p
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Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.10.03 08:00:00 -
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/me just bought her first Omen 
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Killed my sig AGAIN! :p
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Belial02
Amarr
133rd Ghost Wing
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Posted - 2006.10.03 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Complacency's Bane
Large lasers are fine, medium lasers need a 10-15% decrease in grid requirements, and small lasers need a bit more range (and medium beams need to have their grid requirement dropped by 5).
Problems with lasers solved - next thread.
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McTaggart
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.10.03 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Belial02
Originally by: Complacency's Bane
Large lasers are fine, medium lasers need a 10-15% decrease in grid requirements, and small lasers need a bit more range (and medium beams need to have their grid requirement dropped by 5).
Problems with lasers solved - next thread.
Why the ? Looks like a fine solution.
next thread.
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Complacency's Bane
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Posted - 2006.10.03 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: McTaggart
Originally by: Belial02
Originally by: Complacency's Bane
Large lasers are fine, medium lasers need a 10-15% decrease in grid requirements, and small lasers need a bit more range (and medium beams need to have their grid requirement dropped by 5).
Problems with lasers solved - next thread.
Why the ? Looks like a fine solution.
next thread.
Its not an amarr solution. An amarr solution consists of explosive crystals, doubling laser damage, and giving the apoc 6 mids.
Suprisingly, amarr solution =/= balanced solution.
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Dorah Hawkwing
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.03 12:17:00 -
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Fit 5* heavy Pulse laser (Modulated or T2) on your Hecy.
Coupled with drones, Heavy launcher, AB and a web. If your tank can afford it, use a heat sink. Dmg output should be over 200 dps for sure, even without the HS.
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Shirazz
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Posted - 2006.10.03 16:12:00 -
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lol i have 6 heavy pulse IIs on WITH a hsII. Your telling me i shouldnt be able to kill a month old char with that? 
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Kldraina
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Posted - 2006.10.04 01:23:00 -
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A ferox can fit a tank worthy of a Battleship. I've never seen a ship smaller than a Battleship break the tank on my Ferox, so all I can say, is that the Ferox is just that tough.
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Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.10.04 01:32:00 -
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ferox has a huge tank. It also does **** damage. So sit there and pound for awhile and eventually when you get it below 40% shields or so it's shield regen won't be as heavey and you can break him.
And i would love to point out that this is a prime example of sp=/= skill 
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.04 04:41:00 -
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i have over 6m in gunnery, and i still don't think that is enough. when i have about 10m than i'll be good for pvp.
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Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.10.04 07:17:00 -
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My stabber broke a friends frox tank...he got me to hull but finally had to surrender as my repper brouht armor back upp all the time (because of the slow RoF of missiles)
I just picked my ammo carefuly and made sure that I had some Nossing to support the repper.
Gonna test the Omen I bought tonight. I only have Medium Energy Turrets at LvL3 but I think it will be interessting.
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Killed my sig AGAIN! :p
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr
Four Horsemen
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Posted - 2006.10.04 10:40:00 -
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Dear OP,
I hope your Gunnery related skills are near maxed out.
sharp shooting , tracting trajectory etc, Also hope you trains up medium pulse spec to lvl 4 at least...
I taken out many a ferox with them.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar
Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.10.04 11:23:00 -
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OP: Would you post your setup, and also tell us what Lvl BS skill you have?
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