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Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.10.03 23:50:00 - [61] Oh and if anyone thinks this is a serious thread after the 84 page long thread about nerfing amarr, then come on guys and girls. Originally by: Bob Pilot I couldn't careless if BoB pilots log in belts
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.04 00:01:00 - [62] Erm 5 vespas on an ogre = dead ogre fast, try it before acting like they can't track, they can quite easily. Oh and cpu isn't that difficult, especially if one uses 55% faction hards, 20 cpu each ftw, heavy diminishing nosses saves a buncha cpu.. Hell my apoc setups have mwds, that's how little of a problem CPU is ;P Fitting ECM might be difficult, but I don't think you'd need it, nor do I see anywhere saying he had ecm fitted. http://eve.klaki.net/
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.10.04 00:17:00 - [63] Ok I'll accept it might be possible, but did you read the story? It's comedy gold, let me quote you some of the best parts again: Originally by: Thornspawn Chalice i was thinked it was login trap [cause in paragon soul we know what login traps is] Originally by: Thornspawn Chalice and then he aggroed on my friend [he told me it] and finally, the classic: Originally by: Thornspawn Chalice devs must do somthin about it, cause apoc is nearly invincible Now tell me thats not made up? Originally by: Bob Pilot I couldn't careless if BoB pilots log in belts
Tido Maliyu Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.04 00:22:00 - [64] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Ok I'll accept it might be possible, but did you read the story? It's comedy gold, let me quote you some of the best parts again: Originally by: Thornspawn Chalice i was thinked it was login trap [cause in paragon soul we know what login traps is] Originally by: Thornspawn Chalice and then he aggroed on my friend [he told me it] and finally, the classic: Originally by: Thornspawn Chalice devs must do somthin about it, cause apoc is nearly invincible Now tell me thats not made up? i will believe you chris ♥
Randay 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.04 00:34:00 - [65] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Erm 5 vespas on an ogre = dead ogre fast, try it before acting like they can't track, they can quite easily. Oh and cpu isn't that difficult, especially if one uses 55% faction hards, 20 cpu each ftw, heavy diminishing nosses saves a buncha cpu.. Hell my apoc setups have mwds, that's how little of a problem CPU is ;P Fitting ECM might be difficult, but I don't think you'd need it, nor do I see anywhere saying he had ecm fitted. I didn't say that vespas can't track ogres. I said that the apoc would have had to have more then just vespas on the ogres for that situation to be feasible. The domi, jammed and nossed would have gone down long before all 5-15 ogre IIs were destroyed by medium drones. Also unless it was a faction tanked apoc(in which case the arguement is pointless) or maybe tanked 80-90% against thermal and the raven only had thermal torps, A dual LAR setup isn't going to tank a triple BCU raven and 5 t2 ogres very long. Bottom line is the odds are stacked against this story being true. But under specific circumstances I guess it could be true. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Originally by: Reddari Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
Vily Lilium Venture Initiative	Posted - 2006.10.04 00:55:00 - [66] Listen to the story. Its stupid that they didn't run but it sounds by no means untrue. apoc warps in. ratters ignore... apoc targets drones and domi.... apoc scrams domi, sets drones on drones... 10 seconds later.... 1 or 2 drones down, domi begins to respond alerts his buddy in raven who now begins 20 second process of switching to BANE javelins 10-20 seconds later remaining 3 domi drones dead. (SMART people carry spares, none mentioned in story) Raven opens up. because of EXP torpedos, takes three volleys to push through sheild on apoc. because of full cap from presumably 3-4 NOS apoc runs deal rep, easily tanks the dmg on one t2 raven. ....x amount of time later, domi dies. raven.... Should have won? ------------------------ Listed as Such, I claim nothing but existense. know me true -Vily
Mahavy Seth Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.10.04 01:34:00 - [67] Apocalypse is blessed by God. This story is true, the True Story of the Power of God! Well, my true opinion is: OR this is a big lie, OR they found someone that know how to fit this thing. Anyway Vampire (3 Neutralizer and 1 NOS) put on kneel every battlehsip in no time, and 4 turrets untanked are better than 7 tanked, and in the end apoc have 7500 Capacitor. Even with injectors... well... injectors need cargo space, like torpedoes and ammunitions, much more if you carry several type of ammo. Anyway Thornspawn Chalice, post here the name of the pilot killed you both.
Trev Kachanov Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.04 03:36:00 - [68] So you were using em torps on him or something? some explosives would of torn him to bits. I imagine that if you hadn't of killed the named spawn that's what did you in, because there is no way in hell an apoc took out a domi and a raven with it's insanely horrible dps.
xeom Veto.	Posted - 2006.10.04 05:42:00 - [69] Might have believe it,if it was a megathron. --- CCP how about the pith X & A mods? "Those nuclear missiles are for domestic heating." - Scagga
Shadow Mancer The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.04 07:11:00 - [70] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk What's so hard to believe ? Those of you who think it's not possible are noobs. Vampire apocalypse is a really really nice ship, i doubt he needed ECM. Megathron is probably better at the role since its dronebay gives it better damage output, I'm guessing the Dominix pilot only had 5 t2 ogres in his bay and rest was empty, they were NPC setup and a pvp apoc blew them up, not difficult for a competent player with a good setup. Perfectly feasible story, I've done better than that with my vampapocs ;P Is this Sarcasm? cause if it is I really dun get it.

Shadow Mancer The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.04 07:14:00 - [71] Originally by: Mahavy Seth Apocalypse is blessed by God. This story is true, the True Story of the Power of God! Well, my true opinion is: OR this is a big lie, OR they found someone that know how to fit this thing. Anyway Vampire (3 Neutralizer and 1 NOS) put on kneel every battlehsip in no time, and 4 turrets untanked are better than 7 tanked, and in the end apoc have 7500 Capacitor. Even with injectors... well... injectors need cargo space, like torpedoes and ammunitions, much more if you carry several type of ammo. Anyway Thornspawn Chalice, post here the name of the pilot killed you both. Mind you that his Domi buddy had a NOS setup meaning he would have at least 2-3 heavy NOS, with those he could have run 1 Large Rep, meaning bye bye APOC, with 4 lasers APOC will not even kill a NOOOOOOB
Lord WarATron Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.04 07:54:00 - [72] Untill I see the killmail - This thread is a ramble and a lie. BTW, Did i tell you guys how my apoc managed to defeat a Nyx? :) --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Shadow Mancer The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.04 09:56:00 - [73] Originally by: Lord WarATron Untill I see the killmail - This thread is a ramble and a lie. BTW, Did i tell you guys how my apoc managed to defeat a Nyx? :) I thought it was CYVOK's ultra Ego "AVATAR"
Cowboy Bebob	Posted - 2006.10.04 10:22:00 - [74] but if you look at how many replies the thread allready have, then maby there is some truth in the topic.
Jarr Belle	Posted - 2006.10.04 10:26:00 - [75] Originally by: Cowboy Bebob but if you look at how many replies the thread allready have, then maby there is some truth in the topic. Yeah, all the amarr whiners get the cookie of the year award. I just don't understand the problem, amarr are a bunch of religious tards, so why not just pray to the lord instead of whining. Embrace your faith
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.04 10:33:00 - [76] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 04/10/2006 10:34:04 It's certainly not impossible for a solo Apocalypse to destroy two unprepared battleships. But then, it's not impossible for any decently set-up, well-piloted battleship to down two battleships. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Rinaw	Posted - 2006.10.04 10:58:00 - [77] Edited by: Rinaw on 04/10/2006 10:59:03 Ppl start flaming too fast on that forums, its really stupid... Theres a lot of possiblities that make that history could be true. Double core-x repairs? High grade slave set? Core-x hardeners? Jammers? Domis drones had damage from the npcs? Autocannons? Domi and or raven had 2/3 npc bs shooting at them? The guy that writted the history seems to be a new player in pvp and had nice sense of humor, the first time a crow jammed my caracal in a beld 2 years ago and slowly killed me i was ****ed too, really, and i thougt wtf it cant be true!!! (i didnt posted) i just didnt knew how the game worked in pvp, and seems still 90% of the ppl that flame too much didnt even know either.
Soft Kitten	Posted - 2006.10.04 11:04:00 - [78] Overpowered.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.04 11:12:00 - [79] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 04/10/2006 11:13:55 Originally by: Soft Kitten Overpowered. Isn't that a Navpoc though? TBH, Mr Biatch should be shot for using such a noble ship for such degrading purposes! Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Loka Gallente adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.04 11:38:00 - [80] Edited by: Loka on 04/10/2006 11:43:39 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Perfectly feasible story, I've done better than that with my vampapocs ;P Your Apoc killed my T2 Blasterthron, before i realized it wasnt an Apoc, but an Imperial Apoc. Maybe the OP had the same issue ... _________________________ Noob In Action - [NIA]

Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.04 12:59:00 - [81] Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 04/10/2006 13:04:44 Originally by: Loka Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Perfectly feasible story, I've done better than that with my vampapocs ;P Your Apoc killed my T2 Blasterthron, before i realized it wasnt an Apoc, but an Imperial Apoc. Maybe the OP had the same issue ... That was actually my Imperial Issue *Armageddon* Oh and I meant with non-navy/imperial apocs ofc ;P http://eve.klaki.net/
MECTO	Posted - 2006.10.04 16:50:00 - [82] no **** thread by no means its entirely possible, seen many pwnapoc's this days, with autocannons and supreme tank they can do things that will make baby jesus cry
ARMORINE	Posted - 2006.10.04 17:23:00 - [83] until i see a kill mail i will regard this story as a lie. although it is possible its is HIGHLY improbable unless the two bs pilots in question are noobs. either way it points to a serious lack competence on the pilots part.
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.10.04 18:21:00 - [84] Edited by: Crellion on 04/10/2006 18:22:40 Originally by: Vily Listen to the story. Its stupid that they didn't run but it sounds by no means untrue. apoc warps in. ratters ignore... apoc targets drones and domi.... apoc scrams domi, sets drones on drones... 10 seconds later.... 1 or 2 drones down, domi begins to respond alerts his buddy in raven who now begins 20 second process of switching to BANE javelins 10-20 seconds later remaining 3 domi drones dead. (SMART people carry spares, none mentioned in story) Raven opens up. because of EXP torpedos, takes three volleys to push through sheild on apoc. because of full cap from presumably 3-4 NOS apoc runs deal rep, easily tanks the dmg on one t2 raven. ....x amount of time later, domi dies. raven.... Should have won? So the OgresII didnt even get the shield of the Apoc? This guy who rats in 0.0 didnt react to a neutral in the belt cause he wasnt blinking red, in 0.0? The raven didnt even fire until a Domi died? The raven switched to JAVELLINs to shoot a BS? (btw this takes 10 secs not 20 or 19 secs if you count extremely unfortunate deactivation time) If they are both very ... ahem ... new to the game AND the rats had allready the Domi at low armor AND the Domi had been running dual tank (against the rats) long enough to be almost out of cap anyway AND the Raven had a shield tank with 0% Em resistance AND Santa stole all their cans... then perhaps the story is true (in which case it showcases people's inaptitude in pvp rather than Apoc uberness oc)
Vathar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.04 18:32:00 - [85] Bah, considering how many retards you meet, ratting in belt with faction fitted battleships (some times crappy fittings, interesting only because they waste faction stuff), without giving a damn about local/corp/alliance warnings, even some who KEEP FIRING ON NPC while you shoot them, there's not much here that can surprise me! Souns possible from someone who knows how to fly his apoc against 2 clueless NPCers! ___________________________________________ Originally by: Stamm Minmatar are kind of like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair firing
Grez Minmatar The Raven Warriors	Posted - 2006.10.04 18:45:00 - [86] Edited by: Grez on 04/10/2006 18:45:52 Just so you all know, "The Apocolypse" flies a Raven, I should know, I fly with him down in Stain, and he cannot fly an Apoc. --- Cache Clearer Still waiting for a Wrangler-edit!
OrangeAfroMan Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.10.05 06:39:00 - [87] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Oh and if anyone thinks this is a serious thread after the 84 page long thread about nerfing amarr, then come on guys and girls. Duh because if a bunch of people on an open forum say it it must be true!!! Gronsak is Tux's angry alt.


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