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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.10.04 13:46:00 -
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 Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
Contrary to popular belief the Vagabond is NOT the Best HAC in game, its damage out put and tankability is Ridiculously low.
Actually, the base dps of the vaga with 5 * 220mms is higher than the zealot with 4 * heavy pulses. And this ignoring the dps of the vagas 5 light drones.
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Centurin
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.04 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
Go for a diemos, its the easiest to fit...
 Thanks for the laugh. I needed that.
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TuRtLe HeAd
The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2006.10.04 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Centurin
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
Go for a diemos, its the easiest to fit...
Thanks for the laugh. I needed that.
To be honest that was for the benefit of the diemos whingers, Instead of moaning about not being able to fit it easily try a different setup.
If we keep whinging about setups pretty soon every ship in eve will be able to fit full weapons and full tank. there will be no need for lesser modules.
Diemos IS EASY to fit, its just how you try to fit it.
As for the vaga , People think they are overpowered for one reason only, STABS. Vaga prices will soon plummet if PvP with Stabs isn't viable.
Nutshell, your best bet is the Ishtar or Diemos, They are the best in the HAC class. |
Trader Phil
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Posted - 2006.10.04 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
Originally by: Centurin
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
Go for a diemos, its the easiest to fit...
Thanks for the laugh. I needed that.
To be honest that was for the benefit of the diemos whingers, Instead of moaning about not being able to fit it easily try a different setup.
If we keep whinging about setups pretty soon every ship in eve will be able to fit full weapons and full tank. there will be no need for lesser modules.
Diemos IS EASY to fit, its just how you try to fit it.
As for the vaga , People think they are overpowered for one reason only, STABS. Vaga prices will soon plummet if PvP with Stabs isn't viable.
Nutshell, your best bet is the Ishtar or Diemos, They are the best in the HAC class.
Price could also increase when all the people who previously thought they were invincible get wrecked and decide to buy new ships (assuming they still buy another vagabond)
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sakana
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.10.04 14:31:00 -
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vaga, and you dont really need to tank if you set it up right.
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ashher
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Posted - 2006.10.04 18:21:00 -
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these people who say the eagles sucks dont have a clue
the blaster eagle kills most hacs due to having neutrons or ions fitted and dual nos, thus doing lots of damage and killing the hacs biggest weakness cap
Yes a diemos does more damage but cant tank at the same time, unlike an eagle
Sniper eagle does a very good job doing what it was designed to do - snipe, no other hacs can snipe aswell so again is not crap as people think
Eagle is also very easy to fit, normally fitting what you want on hacs you end up with problems with pg cpu etc but not so much with an eagle.
however as long as people still believe they are ****e then the price will remain low which suits me!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2006.10.04 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Fighter on 04/10/2006 18:46:12
Best all rounders are:
Zealot, Vagabond, Ishtar and Muninn.
The others are one of the following: too slow, too tough to fit, not enough dmg, not enough range. Thats not to say they are usless, they are just the worse given any situation than the top four.
EDIT: caldari HACs i dont like because they are hard to fit for solo work (my precious mids) and they are slow, crappy agility and not great dmg.
All my own opinions.
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Tasty Burger
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Posted - 2006.10.04 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
Contrary to popular belief the Vagabond is NOT the Best HAC in game, its damage out put and tankability is Ridiculously low.
Actually, the base dps of the vaga with 5 * 220mms is higher than the zealot with 4 * heavy pulses. And this ignoring the dps of the vagas 5 light drones.
zealot has more med/low slots though, it can afford 3 heat sinks.
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Siakel
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Posted - 2006.10.04 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tasty Burger
Originally by: Aramendel
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
Contrary to popular belief the Vagabond is NOT the Best HAC in game, its damage out put and tankability is Ridiculously low.
Actually, the base dps of the vaga with 5 * 220mms is higher than the zealot with 4 * heavy pulses. And this ignoring the dps of the vagas 5 light drones.
zealot has more med/low slots though, it can afford 3 heat sinks.
It also armor tanks, so those two extra lows are used. I've seen very few Vagabond setups without at least 2 Gyros, and a lot with 3. Benefit of being a shield tanking ship.
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Devon Manticore
Manticore Technologies
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Posted - 2006.10.04 20:35:00 -
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Edited by: Devon Manticore on 04/10/2006 20:40:28
Originally by: Ithildin
Edited by: Ithildin on 04/10/2006 11:55:04
What you add on an Astarte compared to a Deimos:
* Battlecruiser V
* Squadron Command IV
* Spaceship Command V
The last one is incorrect, you need that to fly hacs as well 
Edit: oh and to the op, if you don¦t wanna go for minmatar hac wise. I¦d say gallente got a fun pair of hacs  Ishtar is an excellent hac and fun to fly, you can use ew, heavy tank, nos and drones  can¦t get better tbh.
To the deimos, it¦s fun to fly but it isnt "that" good, there¦s alot better options.
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