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Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 208	Posted - 2015.02.14 02:48:53 - [1] - Quote Without preamble, this link opens a holo vid: the spartan interior of a Caldari captain quarters, all cool lighting and hard angles. A couch rests in mid-frame, a table before it, and a bit forward of that, in the immediate foreground, a mound of black strands bumps quietly back and forth, with an occasional scuffing noise and beep of controls. A time-date stamp appears, top-right, indicating YC 114, 2-14, at 0246 EVT. After a moment, the black mound lifts and a pair of bemused black eyes in a pallid face pop up into view beneath a pair of equally-bemused black eyebrows and a shock of black hair. These back away, and first the right eyebrow lifts, then the left, and the head cocks first left, then right, in counterpoint, as elfin nose, cheeks, lips, chin, and throat (and one dainty ear) all come into view, along with the top bits of the lightly-embroidered black tunic she wears. The diminutive Achur woman frowns at the camera, black little eyes flicking back and forth around the edges of the frame. She taps a couple of times with her fingers at the air over her left wrist, and the image immediately rotates 90 degrees clockwise, catching a long shot of herself and the room (she's also wearing black trousers, and the ceiling continues to declare the architect's deep and abiding devotion to exposed metal), dimensions resizing to fit. She taps again, and the room is upside-down. Frowning in irritation, she taps twice more, and the view returns to its proper orientation, though not without spending another quarter-second on edge. Scowling, she sets herself down on the table edge and scratches her head with one hand. Her eyes drift to the upper left of the camera's view. For a moment, she is still, frowning slightly, as though trying to make sense of a riddle. Then, her eyebrows jump two centimeters, the rest of her manages at least one, and she stares wide-eyed right at the camera. Her fingers fumble frantically at her wrist's airspace, and a few seconds later, the video ends. The final time on the stamp is 0248 EVT.
Rictor Thellere Rictor Thellere Private Trade Corporation 5	Posted - 2015.02.14 03:59:03 - [2] - Quote Blinking a few times he calls back to the AI drone ... "this is definitely not 'Amielia Does Amarr'..."
Jennifer Starfall Repracor Industries 52	Posted - 2015.02.14 08:15:47 - [3] - Quote As if my evening could not become more surreal... Aria? Who's dug this up and why? Jennifer Starfall Media & Communications Repracor Industries The Fourth Seyllin Conference
Xadiran Moira. Villore Accords 18	Posted - 2015.02.14 08:33:45 - [4] - Quote I think a better question is why a vid of Aria fumbling with a holo-recorder is IGS worthy. I mean, sure it has a cutesy quality to it, but is there more to it than that? Am I missing something?
Badel Jramodarr 8967	Posted - 2015.02.14 08:43:27 - [5] - Quote I would recommend Aria train Drone Interfacing I don't always have a signature; but when I do, it doesn't say anything at all ...I'm on a horse
Valerie Valate Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik 723	Posted - 2015.02.14 10:31:09 - [6] - Quote Look out everyone! Miniature female Achuran capsuleers ! Thousands of 'em ! Doctor Valerie Valate, archaeologist. Not the other Doctor Valerie Valate.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 208	Posted - 2015.02.14 16:05:34 - [7] - Quote ((OOC for clarification. Ahem. I am informed that my time stamp is off by a bit (like three years). Corrected.))
Utari Onzo 13. Enigma Project 142	Posted - 2015.02.14 16:10:31 - [8] - Quote Looks like the OP needs to improve their directing skills. Still, better then that horrible Gallentean holovid about space vampire meets young girl... New York, Paris, Peckham, Jita 13. is recruiting
Gwen Ikiryo Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 532	Posted - 2015.02.14 16:22:25 - [9] - Quote I'd advise anyone watching this to assume it's a hoax. It's impossible for reasons that would be overcomplicated to explain.
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 29414	Posted - 2015.02.14 16:56:04 - [10] - Quote That ain't no hoax kid. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Thea Isotalo Black Rise Colonial Exploration 17	Posted - 2015.02.14 17:59:26 - [11] - Quote What am I watching here?
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 274	Posted - 2015.02.14 18:11:52 - [12] - Quote New camera drone?
Kalaratiri Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 480	Posted - 2015.02.15 13:26:03 - [13] - Quote Look at all these young ones with no idea who Aria Jenneth is. Presumably this means the IGS' monthly word count is about to increase exponentially. She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire. This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums. -á- CCP Falcon
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 209	Posted - 2015.02.15 17:14:14 - [14] - Quote Another holo vid, with the same view, and the same young Achur woman staring, unsmiling, at the camera. The camera zooms in sharply from the front, and that frame freezes, boxed in blue, and slides to the far right. She turns to show the left side of her face; again, the frame freezes, boxed in blue, and slides back and slightly right, lined up next to the first. The next is a shot of the back of her head, the next of the right side of her face. Both fall back and line up, providing a full array of images. These remain for three or four heartbeats, and are gone. The camera's view is back to its original, zoomed out position. The little Achur waits a moment, then does a slow, solemn twirl. Text appears at the bottom of the screen. This is Aria? The video ends.
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 29439	Posted - 2015.02.15 19:08:14 - [15] - Quote The hell? [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 210	Posted - 2015.02.15 19:36:00 - [16] - Quote Anslo wrote: The hell? Is this her? Um, me? Not someone who just looks similar? I want to be sure. The hallway door is locked. There's a capsule and a ship outside in the hangar, and there is a socket in the back of my head. If I try to use these things, am I going to die?
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 29441	Posted - 2015.02.15 19:39:09 - [17] - Quote No... You're a pod pilot. That's normal. You don't remember who you are? What's the last thing you recall? [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Anabella Rella Gradient 1897	Posted - 2015.02.15 19:39:28 - [18] - Quote This is too weird. I think I liked the old overly confident and self-important philosopher version better. When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 210	Posted - 2015.02.15 20:02:39 - [19] - Quote Anslo wrote: No... You're a pod pilot. That's normal. You don't remember who you are? What's the last thing you recall? A clone bay, a few days ago. A bay staffer helped me to the shower, then gave a cup of tea and a message for Aria. Some men, station security, I think, brought me here, after. They locked me in these quarters. They bring food. They don't talk, though. Anabella Rella wrote: This is too weird. I think I liked the old overly confident and self-important philosopher version better. Someone said I should look at her old posts and logs, so I've been reading through. She seems like a sad person. I think she hates herself.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 274	Posted - 2015.02.15 20:06:42 - [20] - Quote Did you like... I dunno, bump your head or something? Maybe defective clone? You might want to pay a visit to the station's medical facilities...... then again I'm no doctor.
Rictor Thellere Rictor Thellere Private Trade Corporation 17	Posted - 2015.02.15 20:27:02 - [21] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Did you like... I dunno, bump your head or something? Maybe defective clone? You might want to pay a visit to the station's medical facilities...... then again I'm no doctor. Does sound like a failed cloning, on the plus side her reflexive skills should be more or less intact.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 210	Posted - 2015.02.15 20:28:56 - [22] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Maybe defective clone? Sort of? The log says the archive was corrupt. Auto-termination failed. The tech was supposed to terminate me manually, but someone stopped him. Threatened to separate his parietal lobe from his corpus callosum. It's an odd threat. Maybe that's how you scare people who work with brains.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 274	Posted - 2015.02.15 20:33:39 - [23] - Quote Hope your alright in the end. You said your current clone just got activated right? Hopefully it all comes back to ya in time.
Rictor Thellere Rictor Thellere Private Trade Corporation 17	Posted - 2015.02.15 20:36:48 - [24] - Quote I've heard .. rumors, that for a certain amount of iSK a clones data can be intentionally corrupted in this way. Retaining all reflexive skills but effectively wiping out higher memory.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 274	Posted - 2015.02.15 20:43:41 - [25] - Quote but in a case like that would they auto-terminate the clone? Its a little wierd...
Rictor Thellere Rictor Thellere Private Trade Corporation 17	Posted - 2015.02.15 20:46:10 - [26] - Quote if the Med-tech is one of those religious nuts with misguided concepts of "the soul" and other fantasy things, it's possible.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 274	Posted - 2015.02.15 20:47:48 - [27] - Quote True, but I would think they'd screen out people like that in the application process for the job. At this point it wouldn't surprise me though...
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 210	Posted - 2015.02.15 20:52:59 - [28] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Hope your alright in the end. You said your current clone just got activated right? Hopefully it all comes back to ya in time. The archive only downloaded to 37%. I don't really know what that means. If it means less than half of ... me ... downloaded, I don't know if I can ever fill a gap that big. I'm going to try and find out whether my rig is real, and whether it's calibrated right for this pod. Can anyone show me where I can find tech manuals and calibration instructions? I don't want to trust what I have here too far.
Rictor Thellere Rictor Thellere Private Trade Corporation 17	Posted - 2015.02.15 20:56:29 - [29] - Quote your Cabin library should have the basic standard Ishukone manual set, though jacking in to pod is pretty straightforward these days.
Rictor Thellere Rictor Thellere Private Trade Corporation 17	Posted - 2015.02.15 21:01:56 - [30] - Quote you probably want, once plugged in , to review ISIS for what Ships you can fly
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 274	Posted - 2015.02.15 21:15:48 - [31] - Quote Aria Jenneth wrote: Deitra Vess wrote: Hope your alright in the end. You said your current clone just got activated right? Hopefully it all comes back to ya in time. The archive only downloaded to 37%. I don't really know what that means. If it means less than half of ... me ... downloaded, I don't know if I can ever fill a gap that big. I'm going to try and find out whether my rig is real, and whether it's calibrated right for this pod. Can anyone show me where I can find tech manuals and calibration instructions? I don't want to trust what I have here too far. There were no backups or anything? Or are they corrupted too? If that is the case then I'd suggest looking at your past that you can find and try to piece it together, also try to get in contact with your old contacts and see if they can help you piece your life back together. As far as tech manuals, I believe Rictor is right. Im assuming a lot has changed since you last flew so looking at Isis might be a good idea to get reaquainted to everything. If you really are lost on everything feel free to ask me any questions, I really don't know if I would be all that helpful but ya never know.If not, at least I can help you find the answer.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 210	Posted - 2015.02.15 21:38:39 - [32] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: There were no backups or anything? Or are they corrupted too? If that is the case then I'd suggest looking at your past that you can find and try to piece it together, also try to get in contact with your old contacts and see if they can help you piece your life back together. As far as tech manuals, I believe Rictor is right. Im assuming a lot has changed since you last flew so looking at Isis might be a good idea to get reaquainted to everything. If you really are lost on everything feel free to ask me any questions, I really don't know if I would be all that helpful but ya never know.If not, at least I can help you find the answer. If there were backups, they never loaded. Maybe that could have happened if they'd terminated me? The log says that the attempt to terminate the download failed. Next, the system tried to terminate the clone, but that failed, too. Um. It actually looks like my old contacts did this to me, and I've got people telling me I shouldn't trust anyone. I don't know what to do. Some things are clear, after I understand what I'm looking at. The neural shunt hasn't really changed very much; it's Jovian technology in the first place, and doesn't really get upgrades since we hardly understand it to begin with. Please don't ask me how I know that. I know how to work the calibrations, I think ... I could do as you suggest, Rictor, and just plug in, if I trusted the hardware, but I don't. It's like I'm being pushed toward the pod, but I don't want to just go where I'm being pushed. It could be I really am a capsuleer. But what if I was just a capsule technician or something? I could wetgrave. If it's true, I've seen the list. It's pretty long, and full of warships. She did say she was a pirate, after all.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 275	Posted - 2015.02.15 22:11:31 - [33] - Quote Well, you said you had connectors in the back of your neck, people aren't born with plug holes in the back of their neck. Its pretty clear you physically can connect to a pod, why not try and see? And yes really trust is a rare commodity, don't waste it.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 210	Posted - 2015.02.15 22:21:36 - [34] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Well, you said you had connectors in the back of your neck, people aren't born with plug holes in the back of their neck. Its pretty clear you physically can connect to a pod, why not try and see? And yes really trust is a rare commodity, don't waste it. It's a capsuleer clone. The shunt is real. I'm worried about where my mind came from. People who aren't able to be eggers can die and worse. This isn't the war college. The other people who were talking to me haven't spoken in hours. I hope nothing's wrong.
Valerie Valate Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik 725	Posted - 2015.02.15 22:41:09 - [35] - Quote Oh, you need an expert in brain management, because you feel a bit wary about plugging your brain into stuff that you're not entirely sure about ? Well, lucky for you, that I happen to know all sorts of people, several of which are also capsuleers, and enjoy plugging strange devices into their brain, for Science Purposes, of course. Why, several of them, their entire IGS career apparently consists of announcing, "HEY! Listen! Hey, guys, I found some weird alien technology, I don't know what any of it does, but I'm going to plug it into my brain!", to which the majority of commentators will respond "Don't plug it into your brain", then the plug-obsessed maniac says "TOO LATE!", and subsequently has another mental breakdown, as the alien technology attacks their fragile psyche with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer on a walnut. Then a short time later, the plugee is revived from a backup clone and announces "It's alright, I'm not dead!" and says they've found MORE SCIENCE from the escapade, which is fortunate, because they've found ANOTHER alien device, which looks like it could be plugged into a brain. WAHEY! Don't plug strange devices that you found in mysterious shipwrecks, into your brain. It astounds me, that people who are normally quite reasonable about not eating the contents of cans of what might be food, found in shipwrecks, at least, not without testing the contents first, show much more concern about their intestines, than they do with their brains. Picking up random ancient implants, or possible Jovian devices, or Sleeper doodads, or Rogue Drone wibblies, and blammo, right into the brain, without even the slightest bit of testing first. Makes you think, doesn't it ? Well, it makes me think, anyway. Can't say it makes those plugees think, given their recklessness. Although it's possible that one of these weird alien devices might actually make them think, after they've rammed it into their brain. Anyway. Brains. You need someone to test your brain ? Doctor Valerie Valate, archaeologist. Not the other Doctor Valerie Valate.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 210	Posted - 2015.02.15 23:04:32 - [36] - Quote Valerie Valate wrote: Anyway. Brains. You need someone to test your brain ? Um. All of a sudden I really hope not?
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 275	Posted - 2015.02.15 23:06:57 - [37] - Quote Uh....... don't stick random things you find in space in your head, the pod in your captains quarters.... not so much of a worry..... ya.....
Kyoko Sakoda Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 199	Posted - 2015.02.15 23:43:42 - [38] - Quote I... don't even know what to say.
Valerie Valate Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik 725	Posted - 2015.02.15 23:50:41 - [39] - Quote Aria Jenneth wrote: Valerie Valate wrote: Anyway. Brains. You need someone to test your brain ? Um. All of a sudden I really hope not? Well, I wasn't referring to myself. I'm not a brainologist. But I do know some people who are, such as my cousin, Dr. Valerie Valate. The other one. The medical doctor. I'm the archaeologist. The other one is the medical doctor. Or you might even consider talking to Synthia, as she co-wrote that paper on Sebiestor Brains. Of course, you're not a Sebiestor. There are some others. And also a lot of people who'll do strange things. Like that wingnut who was dissecting live human brains, in order to "look for where consciousness is formed", or whatever silliness that was. And those other crackpots. Come to think of it, almost all the "scientists" on the IGS, tend towards the plugging-alien-technology-into-my-brain-to-see-what-it-does side of things, and hardly any actually bother with the slightest safety measures. Down with one or other of these sorts of thing. Doctor Valerie Valate, archaeologist. Not the other Doctor Valerie Valate.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 210	Posted - 2015.02.15 23:58:08 - [40] - Quote Valerie Valate wrote: Well, I wasn't referring to myself. I'm not a brainologist. But I do know some people who are, such as my cousin, Dr. Valerie Valate. The other one. The medical doctor. I'm the archaeologist. The other one is the medical doctor. Or you might even consider talking to Synthia, as she co-wrote that paper on Sebiestor Brains. Of course, you're not a Sebiestor. There are some others. And also a lot of people who'll do strange things. Like that wingnut who was dissecting live human brains, in order to "look for where consciousness is formed", or whatever silliness that was. And those other crackpots. Come to think of it, almost all the "scientists" on the IGS, tend towards the plugging-alien-technology-into-my-brain-to-see-what-it-does side of things, and hardly any actually bother with the slightest safety measures. Down with one or other of these sorts of thing. Um. Kyoko Sakoda wrote: I... don't even know what to say. Yeah. Me neither.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 275	Posted - 2015.02.16 00:12:12 - [41] - Quote Remember those people telling you not to trust anyone? ya...
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 29441	Posted - 2015.02.16 00:18:05 - [42] - Quote Val. Shut up. Deitra, keep helping Aria out. Aria, let me know if you need anything and I'll help where I can. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 275	Posted - 2015.02.16 00:22:05 - [43] - Quote will do, what can I say... in her position I'd be begging to be biomassed....
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 210	Posted - 2015.02.16 00:23:35 - [44] - Quote . . . .
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 275	Posted - 2015.02.16 00:27:31 - [45] - Quote Bravery isn't a bad thing. Facing the challenges you seem to have coming its remarkable you seem to be facing it bravely. I don't think I could do it.
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 29441	Posted - 2015.02.16 00:35:40 - [46] - Quote What she's trying to say Aria is that whatever you're going through, you'll get through it, as you've taken on worse. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 211	Posted - 2015.02.16 00:51:10 - [47] - Quote If I'm even her. ... I think most people in my position would want to not die, though.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 275	Posted - 2015.02.16 01:47:02 - [48] - Quote I think I exaggerated a little but even still from the sounds of it it would be difficult to deal with
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 29442	Posted - 2015.02.16 01:50:15 - [49] - Quote Remind me to work on your exaggerations kid. Heh. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 275	Posted - 2015.02.16 01:55:46 - [50] - Quote Least I don't exaggerate when scouting...... I think at least....
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 212	Posted - 2015.02.16 02:16:31 - [51] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Least I don't exaggerate when scouting...... I think at least.... Scouting! I know something! Let me think. Um. There's a rhythm to the systems. Thrust-beat-cloak. In a bubble, head up or down; 'ceptors forget to search the Z-axis. Rifter to be inconspicuous. Buzzard for probes and safety. Falcon to double as squad support at need. Tengu to evade bubbles, but you're gambling a lot. D-scan is necessary, but not sufficient. Comms discipline applies to everyone but fleet command and scouts. Scouts have to be heard. If you see Ignoramous in Local, speak up. ... or you'll get a mothership dropped on your convoy. "Ignoramous?" I don't ... the name doesn't appear in the pilot registry. I don't know what's wrong with me.... Is any of that even right?
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 275	Posted - 2015.02.16 02:56:01 - [52] - Quote don't know of a rhyme for it honestly, majority of that sounds right though.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 212	Posted - 2015.02.16 03:29:47 - [53] - Quote Well, that's something, at least.
Ollie Rundle 205	Posted - 2015.02.16 14:08:22 - [54] - Quote Presuming you are Aria Jenneth, which is something of a leap of faith still at this point, how much of what you were do you want to know?
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 213	Posted - 2015.02.16 14:35:33 - [55] - Quote Ollie Rundle wrote: Presuming you are Aria Jenneth, which is something of a leap of faith still at this point, how much of what you were do you want to know? Is there much that she didn't splash all over the IGS, herself?
Jukko Riis Black Rise Colonial Exploration 65	Posted - 2015.02.16 14:51:07 - [56] - Quote Miss Jenneth, Welcome back? I realize that we do not know each other. But take some free advice. Keep Rule # 1 firmly in mind while you're getting yourself together. TRUST NO ONE. Black Rise Colonial Exploration
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 213	Posted - 2015.02.16 15:49:27 - [57] - Quote Jukko Riis wrote: TRUST NO ONE. People keep saying this. Half of them want me to trust them after they say it. I've been looking around GalNet, reading what I can. I see scams, piracy, criminal cartels the size of countries. Political discord, endless wars, rampant death. Capsuleers making a killing. Aria Jenneth was a murderer who killed her own grandfather. She didn't try to hide it. She was also a pirate who loved to watch habitats explode. She blamed that on being a capsuleer. She thought being a capsuleer made her worse. She's also a legendary philosopher, I guess. Or so people tell me. Reading her, though, i'm pretty sure she couldn't stand herself. She hid in a labyrinth of ideas because she couldn't stand her own reflection. She didn't want to be wise. She wanted to be safe, from her history, from the world, from consequences. She was a hypocrite, and a sophist, and she knew it. I hope I'm really someone honest and morally upright, like a clonejacker.
Izanami Rei Lai Dai Infinity Systems The Fourth District 5	Posted - 2015.02.16 16:22:05 - [58] - Quote Aria Jenneth wrote: I hope I'm really someone honest and morally upright, like a clonejacker. Perhaps you have been afforded the chance to be just that.
Rictor Thellere Rictor Thellere Private Trade Corporation 17	Posted - 2015.02.16 16:38:04 - [59] - Quote it's a Dog eat Dog universe out there; The Caldrari would have you believe that's how it's meant to be, The Amarr will tell you it's Gods will, The Minmatar will say they are fighting their way back from servitude.. (which they've now been out of for centuries), The Gallente, well me at least will only say this... Who you are today hinges only on yourself and nothing else, no matter what someone with your face and name did years before.. You choose.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 275	Posted - 2015.02.16 16:48:18 - [60] - Quote Izanami Rei wrote: Aria Jenneth wrote: I hope I'm really someone honest and morally upright, like a clonejacker. Perhaps you have been afforded the chance to be just that. To kinda reiterate what they're saying nothings stopping you from being that person. Just don't forget what you are and if you ever really get a grasp of who you were don't forget where ya came from.
Kyoko Sakoda Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 199	Posted - 2015.02.16 16:50:06 - [61] - Quote Aria Jenneth wrote: Reading her, though, i'm pretty sure she couldn't stand herself. She hid in a labyrinth of ideas because she couldn't stand her own reflection. And for those of us who couldn't do that, she mentored us back to some semblance of sanity.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 213	Posted - 2015.02.16 16:53:57 - [62] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Izanami Rei wrote: Aria Jenneth wrote: I hope I'm really someone honest and morally upright, like a clonejacker. Perhaps you have been afforded the chance to be just that. To kinda reiterate what they're saying nothings stopping you from being that person. Just don't forget what you are and if you ever really get a grasp of who you were don't forget where ya came from. You two do get that a clonejacker is someone who steals other people's identities and lives, right? As in, hijacker of clones. It's what I probably am if I'm not Aria Jenneth. ... just a different species of criminal.
Jennifer Starfall Repracor Industries 58	Posted - 2015.02.16 16:54:51 - [63] - Quote Aria Jenneth wrote: Jukko Riis wrote: TRUST NO ONE. People keep saying this. Half of them want me to trust them after they say it. I've been looking around GalNet, reading what I can. I see scams, piracy, interstellar criminal cartels the size of empires. Political discord, endless wars, rampant death. Capsuleers making a killing. Aria Jenneth was a murderer who killed her own grandfather. She didn't try to hide it. She was also a pirate who loved to watch habitats explode. She blamed that on being a capsuleer. She thought being a capsuleer made her worse. She's also a legendary philosopher, I guess. Or so people tell me. Reading her, though, i'm pretty sure she couldn't stand herself. She hid in a labyrinth of ideas because she couldn't stand her own reflection. She didn't want to be wise. She wanted to be safe, from her history, from the world, from consequences. She was a hypocrite, and a sophist, and she knew it. I hope I'm really someone honest and morally upright, like a clonejacker. For all that, she should know that she took this broken, angry child and set her on a path to becoming whole. It was a path filled with violence and anger. But it was also a path that lead to peace and healing. I hope you are really Aria. I want you to see how you've help make me whole. Jennifer Starfall Media & Communications Repracor Industries The Fourth Seyllin Conference
Rictor Thellere Rictor Thellere Private Trade Corporation 17	Posted - 2015.02.16 16:57:32 - [64] - Quote Aria Jenneth wrote: You two do get that a clonejacker is someone who steals other people's identities and lives, right? As in, hijacker of clones. It's what I probably am if I'm not Aria Jenneth. ... just a different species of criminal. I get that, and if that's what happened perhaps Aria did just that, in order to get a fresh start. Take advantage of it.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 275	Posted - 2015.02.16 17:02:15 - [65] - Quote I know, what ya meant, If you are you wouldn't exactly be that great at it since your drawing attention to yourself. The fact you seem clueless to the events leading up to your initial video leads me to believe that's not the case. Bare in mind I didn't know the original Aria, so for all I know you could be one. I'm merely trusting my gut on this one and showing sympathy isn't really going to effect me in the least.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 213	Posted - 2015.02.16 17:04:09 - [66] - Quote . . . .
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 213	Posted - 2015.02.16 18:01:27 - [67] - Quote All right. Enough self-pity. It sounds like the last person to try to reach me physically hit a wall after docking at the station. If I'm getting out of here, it's going to be on my own. To those of you who see Aria as a mentor or a guide ... I'm sorry. I can't see in her what you do. If I'm her, then maybe she couldn't, either. To me it looks like she had a head full of mirrors and bull****. But if it was valuable to you ... maybe the person she really couldn't help was herself. We can maybe talk about it if I can get out of here. I'm going to start running tests on my rig. I'll still be in touch, but.... If this works, maybe I'll see you in space. If not ... ... I guess, thanks for not treating me like damaged hardware. Here goes.
Valerie Valate Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik 725	Posted - 2015.02.16 18:09:47 - [68] - Quote Aria Jenneth wrote: Here goes. Good luck, pilot. And remember You don't have to be what other people want you to be. You can be yourself. Doctor Valerie Valate, archaeologist. Not the other Doctor Valerie Valate.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 213	Posted - 2015.02.16 19:49:35 - [69] - Quote Valerie Valate wrote: You can be yourself. Easier with more context. ... which, I'm getting some of. Update for the interested: not dead. Also not mindlocked, which is important. Presently jacked into the pod. There's no dangerous feedback or interference to speak of. Since I'm apparently in lowsec, I'll be running test simulations rather than hopping out the front door to have a look. Also, if I'm not actually as qualified to fly that Tengu as I look on paper, I'd like to know ahead of time. So far, I'm verified category five in, ah, all four empires' frigate control schemes. This is kind of unsettling. Aria, didn't you own anything that isn't covered in guns? ... Ah, of course. A blockade runner. For moving the guns.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 275	Posted - 2015.02.16 20:14:00 - [70] - Quote At least you'll be kinda safe when you undock, that's a plus... Congratulations on taking the first steps too.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 213	Posted - 2015.02.16 21:51:13 - [71] - Quote ... Um. Fifth rank in ... ... Amarr Battleships ... ... Caldari Battleships ... ... Gallente Battleships ... ... Minmatar Battleships.... That's ... ah, that's common, right? Not unusual? Um. Typical, maybe, for pilots with a certain number of years? Let's, ah, maybe try something ... else ... Astrometric pinpointing. Aria only rates a four....
Lyn Farel Kitzless 901	Posted - 2015.02.16 23:31:32 - [72] - Quote Aria Jenneth wrote: Um. Typical, maybe, for pilots with a certain number of years? Probably. There comes a time when you do not really know what to train next. And you stop caring.
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1297	Posted - 2015.02.17 00:20:08 - [73] - Quote Aria Jenneth wrote: Jukko Riis wrote: TRUST NO ONE. People keep saying this. Half of them want me to trust them after they say it. I've been looking around GalNet, reading what I can. I see scams, piracy, interstellar criminal cartels the size of empires. Political discord, endless wars, rampant death. Capsuleers making a killing. Aria Jenneth was a murderer who killed her own grandfather. She didn't try to hide it. She was also a pirate who loved to watch habitats explode. She blamed that on being a capsuleer. She thought being a capsuleer made her worse. She's also a legendary philosopher, I guess. Or so people tell me. Reading her, though, i'm pretty sure she couldn't stand herself. She hid in a labyrinth of ideas because she couldn't stand her own reflection. She didn't want to be wise. She wanted to be safe, from her history, from the world, from consequences. She was a hypocrite, and a sophist, and she knew it. I hope I'm really someone honest and morally upright, like a clonejacker. If you actually believe all of what you just said here, and this whole memory-less clone thing hasn't been some big hoax, then it sounds to me like you may actually be a better person than who Ms. Jenneth was. Try to hold on to that. Few capsuleers do. Most believe the same kind of ramblings your template used to write about how special capsuleers are. Capsuleers are awful people. The more human you try to be, the better off you'll be.
Kalaratiri Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 481	Posted - 2015.02.17 00:30:59 - [74] - Quote Those looking for a reason can often find it in those around them. Don't be a stranger. She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire. This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums. -á- CCP Falcon
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 213	Posted - 2015.02.17 01:31:10 - [75] - Quote Lyn Farel wrote: Probably. There comes a time when you do not really know what to train next. And you stop caring. Oh. Um. Good. ... I score a four on astrometric pinpointing. Well.... Samira Kernher wrote: If you actually believe all of what you just said here, and this whole memory-less clone thing hasn't been some big hoax, then it sounds to me like you may actually be a better person than who Ms. Jenneth was. Try to hold on to that. Few capsuleers do. Most believe the same kind of ramblings your template used to write about how special capsuleers are. Capsuleers are awful people. The more human you try to be, the better off you'll be. That seems sensible. Wasn't that her advice, too, though? Especially the early stuff. Be human if you can. If you can't, here's an alternative. That sort of thing? ... I'm not sure which of us that was for. Sorry. A bit distracted. Testing these stupid metrics, getting matches time after time, I feel like I could be a hoax, or a prank. Like the rest of Aria Jenneth is going to pop out of a cake any second, and I'll just be ... ... the joke will be on me. Only I'll be gone. Maybe she'll have the grace to feel bad about that for a moment. Something more esoteric ... um.... Kalaratiri wrote: Those looking for a reason can often find it in those around them. Don't be a stranger. Are you talking about trying to stay human? Or.... Infomorph Psychology. There's no way I rate a five.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 213	Posted - 2015.02.17 03:24:07 - [76] - Quote Five? I don't ... how does that even.... How can a person who can't remember her own name be psychologically prepared to shuttle six bodies around?! I don't ... I can't.... ....
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1297	Posted - 2015.02.17 03:39:38 - [77] - Quote Aria Jenneth wrote: That seems sensible. Wasn't that her advice, too, though? Especially the early stuff. Be human if you can. If you can't, here's an alternative. That sort of thing? There is no alternative. Her writings were about how different and alien capsuleers are. Her writings just fed into the delusional feelings of godhood that makes capsuleers believe they're beyond mortal concerns. Her very first writing, said in no uncertain words: "You're not human." That sentence, that one sentence, is what creates monsters. We are humans. Just humans in a VR where we're controlling real spaceships instead of virtual ones, and where we pretend that our mortal replacements are immortal continuations. Do you feel immortal? You, more than any of us, should be able to appreciate the fact that you are a replacement, because you are absent of the memories that create the illusion of continuation. You aren't Aria Jenneth, or any of her copies, you're a new person made in her image and with her name, just as the clone after you won't be you. As long as people keep trying to live with these delusions that we're something other than human, we'll keep spawning people who believe they can ignore human concerns. What made your templates' writings terrible, was that they were defeatist. "You're a killer." Why? Capsuleers are not killers by nature, they're killers by choice, and by lack of the restrictions normally imposed on society that would discourage that choice. "You do not have empathy," "You do not even notice." If a capsuleer has no empathy, and does not notice, it's because they choose to have no empathy, and choose not to notice. Becoming a monster is a choice. Your templates encouraged people to make that choice by instilling these defeatist and self-aggrandizing philosophies. Your templates said not to embrace illusions, and yet everything they wrote was the crafting of one. You yourself pointed this out. What your templates did, was say that we are monsters who should try to be human. That is a lie. What capsuleers are are humans who all too frequently try to be monsters, and have been allowed to be by intentional removal of the chains that normally keep humans from fulfilling our darker impulses. You're a human being. Don't ever think you're anything else. Impose whatever restrictions on yourself you need to make sure you don't choose to be anything else. That Infomorph Psychology thing, by the way? The real name of that skill is Voluntary Suicide. There's an area where you should impose a restriction. Your templates weren't immortal, you aren't either.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 213	Posted - 2015.02.17 04:18:21 - [78] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: That Infomorph Psychology thing, by the way? The real name of that skill is Voluntary Suicide. That ... doesn't seem right. One body sleeps. The ... infomorph ... passes. The channeling's gentle. No data loss. No neuron-scorching flash scan. The next body wakes. It ... goes about its day. It has breakfast, attends a meeting, laughs with friends over drinks. The next day, it ... sleeps in turn. The first awakes, with all those memories. Where is death? .... Huh. Maybe I do rate a five. I'm sorry, Samira. I'll ... come back to the rest later. I have to work this out.
Vikarion State Trade Consortium 795	Posted - 2015.02.17 05:20:35 - [79] - Quote Kyoko Sakoda wrote: Aria Jenneth wrote: Reading her, though, i'm pretty sure she couldn't stand herself. She hid in a labyrinth of ideas because she couldn't stand her own reflection. And for those of us who couldn't do that, she mentored us back to some semblance of sanity. Speak for yourself.
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 4502	Posted - 2015.02.17 08:28:43 - [80] - Quote Run, you clever girl, and remember. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."
Ollie Rundle 205	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:17:16 - [81] - Quote Aria Jenneth wrote: Ollie Rundle wrote: Presuming you are Aria Jenneth, which is something of a leap of faith still at this point, how much of what you were do you want to know? Is there much that she didn't splash all over the IGS, herself? Quite a bit is the most likely answer. Where she's been and what she's been doing since her sudden disappearance about two years ago and your sudden reappearance now being a more specific but hardly all inclusive one.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 213	Posted - 2015.02.17 13:46:54 - [82] - Quote Ollie Rundle wrote: Quite a bit is the most likely answer. Where she's been and what she's been doing since her sudden disappearance about two years ago and your sudden reappearance now being a more specific but hardly all inclusive one. My ... reappearance? You're saying she's behind this, um, me? . . . . Can you maybe please not say anything right here that'll get me shot? Infomorphs aren't allowed to leave active copies of ourselves around. It's not just bad manners. I don't want to lose my accreditation as a human being. ... even if it is kinda provisional.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 213	Posted - 2015.02.17 14:23:20 - [83] - Quote So. Ah.... Ollie's worrying hints aside, I've been working through the skill profile. Science: Aria was a dabbler, here. The record's jagged, highs and lows all mixed in together like teeth on an old key. Amarr Encryption, two. Caldari Encryption, one. Electromagnetic Physics, one. Gallente Encryption, one. Graviton Physics, four. High Energy Physics, one. And on and on. They all match. The records ... what I can get ... show my archive was last updated 114.6.29. It's about the time Aria vanished. There are reasons to doubt this method. The archive's corrupt; how did my skillset survive? For those of you who worry I'm an impostor, I don't know if this is even evidence. It's me doing the testing, after all. For me, though, it's time I faced facts. I'm her. I'm Aria. Gods help me.
Gwen Ikiryo Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 534	Posted - 2015.02.17 14:54:18 - [84] - Quote A lot of people are making a number of assumptions here that they shouldn't. I understand that when you see someone in peril, the tempting and morally correct thing to do is to jump right in and try to help. But please keep in mind that, without a firm understanding of the person or the situation in question, you can often do harm even with the best of intentions. This isn't to say "mind your own business", but... Well, be conscious of the implications of your words in the greater sense, and when in doubt, err on the side of caution, when dealing with a stranger. To the OP: Please get in contact with me. I have some information you will probably find helpful. I would speak to you right now at length, but the cluster is inconsiderately falling apart by the minute.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 213	Posted - 2015.02.17 15:23:56 - [85] - Quote Gwen Ikiryo wrote: ... the cluster is inconsiderately falling apart by the minute. Oh, gods. I just saw the news. Um. Please don't worry about me? I should be okay as long as nobody in command decides I'm redundant. ... and there's not much anyone will be able to do to save me if that happens. So. Ah. Cluster-wide military threat. Bigger problem.
Lyn Farel Kitzless 901	Posted - 2015.02.17 20:49:32 - [86] - Quote Aria Jenneth wrote: Samira Kernher wrote: That Infomorph Psychology thing, by the way? The real name of that skill is Voluntary Suicide. That ... doesn't seem right. One body sleeps. The ... infomorph ... passes. The channeling's gentle. No data loss. No neuron-scorching flash scan. The next body wakes. It ... goes about its day. It has breakfast, attends a meeting, laughs with friends over drinks. The next day, it ... sleeps in turn. The first awakes, with all those memories. Where is death? It is not right. There is no death for the identity, only for the body. Continuity of data stream and thought is conserved, like with any hardscan process. Conventional thinking based on human perception of space time continuum can not cope with the scope of multiple identities and discontinuity of thought. Telling that someone ceases to be that someone after a hardscan, or even a delayed cloning, is nonsensical. Technically you stop being you at the next second no matter what you do.
Ollie Rundle 205	Posted - 2015.02.17 22:10:08 - [87] - Quote Have to agree with you there, Lyn. Generally speaking, a successful suicide doesn't come back.
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1305	Posted - 2015.02.17 23:27:12 - [88] - Quote Ollie Rundle wrote: Have to agree with you there, Lyn. Generally speaking, a successful suicide doesn't come back. You don't. A copy with your memories does (or without, in this new Jenneth's case). But as usual, capsuleers will cling to the delusion that they're immortal, and thus more special than the rest of humanity. So, forget I said anything, as it just falls on deaf ears and is drowned out by dreamers. And Ms. Jenneth, most jump clones performed today do involve neuron-scorching flash scans. So there is certainly 'a death'.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 215	Posted - 2015.02.17 23:34:54 - [89] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: And Ms. Jenneth, most jump clones performed today do involve neuron-scorching flash scans. So there is certainly 'a death'. That ... doesn't sound right. An emergency cloning is a violent event. A clone jump is not. That's ... the point of it. A jump clone permits clone retention ... all implants retained, however expensive and fragile. Medical bay to medical bay ... no actual cloning bay even required. No deadly hair net. No capsuleer's thorn-crown. No neurotoxins to ensure death. Did this ... change? There seems no reason why it should.
Saede Riordan Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 7506	Posted - 2015.02.17 23:48:41 - [90] - Quote Lyn Farel wrote: Aria Jenneth wrote: Samira Kernher wrote: That Infomorph Psychology thing, by the way? The real name of that skill is Voluntary Suicide. That ... doesn't seem right. One body sleeps. The ... infomorph ... passes. The channeling's gentle. No data loss. No neuron-scorching flash scan. The next body wakes. It ... goes about its day. It has breakfast, attends a meeting, laughs with friends over drinks. The next day, it ... sleeps in turn. The first awakes, with all those memories. Where is death? It is not right. There is no death for the identity, only for the body. Continuity of data stream and thought is conserved, like with any hardscan process. Conventional thinking based on human perception of space time continuum can not cope with the scope of multiple identities and discontinuity of thought. Telling that someone ceases to be that someone after a hardscan, or even a delayed cloning, is nonsensical. Technically you stop being you at the next second no matter what you do. This is important. Fear and Loathing in Internet Spaceships
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 215	Posted - 2015.02.18 00:31:53 - [91] - Quote Saede Riordan wrote: Lyn Farel wrote: Conventional thinking based on human perception of space time continuum can not cope with the scope of multiple identities and discontinuity of thought. Telling that someone ceases to be that someone after a hardscan, or even a delayed cloning, is nonsensical. Technically you stop being you at the next second no matter what you do. This is important. I think this is ... backward. Reversed, I mean. A mind isn't a set pattern that ends because it changes. It isn't even software, loaded up from memory and then stashed away again. A mind is an electrochemical dance among neurons. It reaches, touching there, there, there-- turning, sweeping, fetching, holding, leaping. It is always in motion, whether it is moving or being moved. Change defines its presence. If a mind stops ... ... maybe that's death. The living mind never truly stops, even in sleep. Even emptied in meditation, it still hears the wind whistle-- even if it lets the sound go. That clear stillness is a part of the dance, itself. Does a mind in transition stop while the library it dances around in is boxed up and shipped to a new address? ... I guess we'd have to ask an expert. Hm. Even if it does, that's only really profound if you believe that's when the soul packs its bags and moves to Heaven.
James Syagrius Reclamation Technologies 957	Posted - 2015.02.18 00:54:56 - [92] - Quote We do not know each other, but for what itGÇÖs worth you have my condolences on your recent trama. YouGÇÖre asking some interesting and important questions. How did this happen to me? Why did this happen to me? Was it an accident? Was it intentional? If intentional who, or God forbid, did I do this to myself. All important questions but in my estimation, pointless. What really matters young lady is the now. Who you were is unimportant, who you become depends upon your choices. Make good ones. GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 215	Posted - 2015.02.18 03:18:31 - [93] - Quote Ah. So. It looks like Samira is ... right ... as a rule, anyway ... about jump cloning, after all. I ... or apparently even Aria, the former one, I mean ... had no idea it worked that way. Brains zapped. Implants surgically removed. She would have loved the ghoulish details. One more step towards being a creature out of a storybook. To me, it just seems ... wasteful. That's our lives, though, isn't it? Great power. Great utility. Great privilege. Great waste. ... not just real vegetables in our diets, but meat. In space. Feeding doomed bodies. It shouldn't be surprising. Just another pile of meat. ... The transfer itself still doesn't seem all that profound, unless, again, there's really such a thing as a soul, and we each get one per biological life. If we only get one, that first cloning is really profound; the others, not so much. Or maybe we're lucky, or unlucky, and it comes along. If Aria's-- my, that is-- people are right, though ... the soul is just who you are. So. Um. Good choices? Okay. ... If you've got a sure way to spot those ... maybe you can share?
Gwen Ikiryo Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 540	Posted - 2015.02.18 04:01:12 - [94] - Quote Miss Kernher, I understand your reasons, both scientific and spiritual, for having little belief in the cloning system and a continuation of a persons self. However, please do not present them as fact in this very sensitive and difficult situation where your words might affect others who are vulnerable. The topic is a subject of academic debate with a number of factors involved, and not an ironclad, no-grey-area reality as you are presenting it. Please remember this reality while you are making your assertions.
Vendrin Stimulus Rote Kapelle 17	Posted - 2015.02.18 06:38:49 - [95] - Quote Well I guess there's something to be said for starting fresh. I mean, all those capsuleers who can't cut it and just get stuck in a clone loop to enjoy the physical experiences all over again. Maybe you just decided to do the same with psychological. Welcome back Aria. Don't limit yourself to humanity, we may be less then them, but we're something more too. And just because you're not human, doesn't mean you have to be a monster. It's just easier that way. Fly safe old friend.
Ollie Rundle 205	Posted - 2015.02.18 11:01:28 - [96] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: But as usual, capsuleers will cling to the delusion that they're immortal, and thus more special than the rest of humanity. So, forget I said anything, as it just falls on deaf ears and is drowned out by dreamers. Funny. I don't recall ever saying or implying I was immortal or that I was any more or less special than humanity. For the record, I'm neither immortal or human. I might well appear to be one or the other or even both depending on the perspective of the observer.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 216	Posted - 2015.02.18 14:36:41 - [97] - Quote Vendrin wrote: Welcome back Aria. Don't limit yourself to humanity, we may be less then them, but we're something more too. And just because you're not human, doesn't mean you have to be a monster. It's just easier that way. Ollie Rundle wrote: For the record, I'm neither immortal or human. Oooooh dear. Aria? Are you out there? Can you see this happening? Are you getting a kick out of this? Your own "reset," your maybe kinda-sorta second chance, your fledgling pod-pilot self who is not even carrying your childhood baggage, has your associates and students suggesting to her that she's not human before she's even flown a ship. What was that about "please ignore this if it doesn't apply to you; it could cause you damage?" Where's that principle now, huh? Three cheers for unintended consequences! ... Gentlemen, thank you for the warm wishes. I think I'm going to go fill my very human, virgin ears with plaster until l've at least flown my first hundred hours. ... Ten, anyway.
Vendrin Stimulus Rote Kapelle 17	Posted - 2015.02.19 02:27:32 - [98] - Quote If you think you're still human, you haven't been paying attention to your own recent existence. You woke up after being dead. You may not be a monster like the rest of us, but at the very least you're a post-human. But cling to what illusions you will if they comfort you, we all need our creature comforts, the beautiful thing about the vastness of space is that it doesn't really matter if we agree or not.
Xadiran Moira. Villore Accords 20	Posted - 2015.02.19 06:25:24 - [99] - Quote I wouldn't listen too much to these arguments about immortality versus humanity, Aria. Human, I think you've already figured out, is a state of mind. It's what kind of person you are. I have no idea who you were before, or what kind of things you did, but if this truly is a sort of fresh start for you then I wish you well. Second chances are rare; I know that as well as anyone. Make the most of it. Stay human, Aria. I can tell you that if you don't, you may come to regret it yourself.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 218	Posted - 2015.02.19 20:49:09 - [100] - Quote Yesterday was a strange day. It started with finally getting clearance to undock. I guess I'm not going to be shot. That Merlin looked so huge, looming over my balcony in the station: metric tons of tritanium; blaster arrays powerful enough to slice another ship into chunks of debris; engine arrays I could have walked into. Launching ... the kick of the thrusters, the stronger push of afterburners-- it was exhilarating. It sort of stayed ... impressive ... until I warped near the beacon at one of the "Unknown Structures." I'm not sure my sense of scale's recovered yet. We measured it at 196 km, antenna tip to bottom of hull, give or take a kilometer. It would ... take me a good few minutes to walk my own margin for error. The Buzzard I switched over to to experiment with probing ... didn't seem so big anymore. Though I still feel pretty small. The probing led to a, well, I guess "illegal" might not be the word.... A Federal Navy detention center, in Caldari space. I only saw the guard at the deadspace entry, but it was an intimidating force: Elite Navy frigates, mixed with cruisers, but the main force was a squadron of Gallente battleships, each ... I don't know how many times the size of my little cloaked frigate. I felt very glad not to be seen. While I was taking it all in, another pilot warped in, in an Ishtar. Chaos erupted. I thought ... I know, capsuleer, but still, he was so outnumbered, I thought ... they'd kill him for sure, but he fought his way through to the gate. The gate slung him away into the deeper reaches, and I sort of thought, how heroic, running a gauntlet like that to ... well, to rescue the prisoners, or shut the place down. He came back a few minutes later, though, and everything just started exploding. I thought it was amazing at first, but then a companion ... reminded me what I was looking at: ships full of people exploding, crews in the tens, hundreds, or thousands, dying every minute. And ... I realized, this isn't a battle. It's a massacre. I ... guess I must have sounded horrified, so my companion suggested we go save some lives. We ... headed out to the Caldari border with Amarr space, looking for stranded human cargo. Twenty minutes or so, and we didn't ... actually find anyone. I'm told that this sort of mercy mission is looked down on, that it's not ... considered respectable work. And, cruel as it sounds, I can kind of see the point. We could have, at most, expected-- what, a few dozen? A couple hundred? It seems as though we'd have had to get ... very lucky to save, in an hour, one percent of the numbers that Ishtar killed in five minutes. If we were trying to make a measurable difference, we failed, and we probably were always going to. What's more, I got frustrated, and I started following the lines of reasoning so clearly laid out in my head. The discussion sort of ranged all over, but I didn't realize until near the end of it that I didn't care nearly as much about what I'd been saying as it sounded like I did. I'd been ... following a script, assembling pieces of knowledge Aria had sort of pre-arranged for her own use. Some of ... old Aria ... is beginning to make more sense now. At the same time, I don't want to just trust these ... "facts" that I remember. They represent the world according to Aria. Old Aria did believe in looking for the truth, but she was so partisan I have no way to distinguish between facts and "facts." One thing is clear: if I want to be sure to become my own person, I need to be careful about debate. Old Aria loved debate, and most of the intact parts I have from her mind are intellectual knowledge-- debating material. I can maybe trust its accuracy, but I can't ... trust its completeness. So, sifting what is true from what she believed is going to be sort of a process. But if I just trust her to have been right about things, I will end up thinking like her. So ... I guess learning that is a start. Time to start examining what I think I know.
Anslo Scope Works Overload Everything 29468	Posted - 2015.02.19 21:06:08 - [101] - Quote Good luck. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Kalo Askold Sanguis Inceptum 4	Posted - 2015.02.19 21:12:51 - [102] - Quote I'm just confused.
Anslo Scope Works Overload Everything 29477	Posted - 2015.02.19 21:17:22 - [103] - Quote Kalo Askold wrote: I'm just confused. Her memory is fragmented, possibly on purpose, by her former self. That is essentially the situation. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 218	Posted - 2015.02.19 22:33:47 - [104] - Quote Another first: I just became a killer. Again. DED payout: 39,000 ISK. ... essentially a weapons test, I guess. I said I didn't want other people to have to do the dirty work if it had to be done, but ... I still want to watch out my brain with bleach. Again. (Maybe.)
Rictor Thellere Rictor Thellere Private Trade Corporation 20	Posted - 2015.02.20 16:17:30 - [105] - Quote I'm no priest, heck fact is in my district organized religion is outlawed, If a DED bounty was involved you are probably not a murderer as much as an agent of Justice ... Concord can't be everywhere.
Natalcya Katla Astropolitan Front 185	Posted - 2015.02.21 01:12:27 - [106] - Quote The trouble with the terms "humanity" and "personhood" is that they are made-up terms, invented and re-invented a million times over from the days of our collective cave-crawling ancestors up until the present day. As a consequence, every single person seems to have their own individual definitions of those words. This in turn means that whenever people debate what the terms actually mean, their arguments tend to be based on opinion rather than fact, making any kind of consensus extremely unlikely. The most rational way to determine whether a given specimen or individual qualifies as human - or indeed as a specific individual - is to look at how the law defines those terms, and measure the individual in question against those standards. Although it can be argued that legal opinion is still, at the end of the day, subjective opinion itself, it is at least codified opinion - which is as good an opinion as you're ever going to get. As a capsuleer, you are typically under CONCORD jurisdiction. From what I can tell, your identity as Aria Jenneth within the pilot registry appears to be valid. Clonejack or no, this means that until CONCORD says otherwise, I consider you the same person I used to know. And, incidentally, also human. Welcome back, Aria. I'll be in touch.
Aria Jenneth Perkone Caldari State 219	Posted - 2015.02.21 17:53:16 - [107] - Quote Natalcya Katla wrote: The most rational way to determine whether a given specimen or individual qualifies as human - or indeed as a specific individual - is to look at how the law defines those terms, and measure the individual in question against those standards. That does seem to be the definition I live or die by. Quote: Welcome back, Aria. I'll be in touch. Thank you? ... I think?
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 1633	Posted - 2015.02.22 12:58:25 - [108] - Quote Welcome back, Ms. Jenneth. As for twisted morals and pseudo-ethics, I would like to wish you just to be honest to yourself and others. We are capsuleers, we are combat pilots and machines to kill people. We do our duty by fighting and killing, and this is what we must accept. Lately, especially in this exact media, there are too many weaklings and hypocrites, mostly caused by annoying gallente propaganda, who twist morals and ethics and scream a lot about "killing innocents", while with other hand sending thousands into oblivion, or those, who can't accept killing of hundreds in order to save thousands. Be honest about what you do and why you do. And don't afraid to push the trigger when your duty calls for it.
Marcus Gord Pyre Falcon Defence and Security 81239	Posted - 2015.02.24 13:05:25 - [109] - Quote Hello again, Ms Jenneth. It's been a long time. In a few moments you will have an experience that will seem completely real. It will be the result of your subconscious fears transformed to your conscious awareness. http://i.imgur.com/LM2NKUf.png
Luna Hanaya Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 36	Posted - 2015.02.24 13:24:01 - [110] - Quote Maybe the God has given you second chance, Miss. Use it wisely! (( If you are a roleplayer, or want to learn about roleplay, please join "*Out of Character" and "Intergalactic Summit*" channels in game, Lets show CCP that there are many roleplayers still here, and we want more Live Events!! ))
Julianus Soter Moira. Villore Accords 261	Posted - 2015.02.25 11:21:17 - [111] - Quote Aria Jenneth. It's been some time. We have a lot to catch up on. Or, at least, a liter or two of alcohol to dispose of together. Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 1645	Posted - 2015.02.25 12:46:53 - [112] - Quote I would like to remind, that drinking alcohol is not professional. Especially with subhuman hedonists like gallenteans.
Jade Blackwind Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 279	Posted - 2015.03.02 14:20:31 - [113] - Quote Aria Jenneth. When I was a rookie, I liked to read your essays, they were pretty popular back then. The future of the humanity and the infomorphs, capsuleer exodus and whatnot. Fate has a cruel sense of humor. Welcome. Maybe, welcome back.
Jev North State War Academy Caldari State 196	Posted - 2015.03.25 15:43:46 - [114] - Quote Revenants, revenants, as far as the eye can see. Diminished..? Different? As you may be, it's.. nice? To see you again.
Corraidhin Farsaidh Farsaidh's Freeborn 1026	Posted - 2015.03.25 15:47:08 - [115] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: I would like to remind, that drinking alcohol is not professional. it's also damn tricky when in your pod, but some knowledge of fluid dynamics and a bunch of nanite straws does the trick. Diana Kim wrote: Especially with subhuman hedonists like gallenteans. I'm perfectly happy in my hedonism thank you, feel free to join me some time. Bring some friends. I have a pod big enough for two...maybe three at a rather fun squeeze...

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