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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17122
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Posted - 2015.02.14 02:56:34 -
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Hey again everyone!
So you all know about the Drifters, right?
These Guys
They are coming to Tranquility next week, flying insanely powerful battleships capable of destroying marauders in one shot with a powerful superweapon. They appear near unidentified wormholes and will warp between them and the not-so-unidentified structures; and if you approach either structure, they may open fire.
They have their own faction, the Drifters, and fly under the "Viligant Tyrannos". On the surface, this may all seem totally new.
But it may not be.
Yet again (put on that Titanium Plated Cranial Shielding, everyone)I have a theory that I seriously would like everyone to look at and consider. I'll do my very best to explain it.
Let me introduce you to Miko Bour. He was a Jovian. Bour was the leader who prevented the total collapse of the Jovians following the collapse of the First Empire. He brought the Jovians together once more under his rule, and became known as the Second Empire's first "Tyrant". However, he was no tyrannical tyrant- he was a ruler in a more traditional sense, a good but firm leaded. Under him, the Jovians were reunited for thousands of years before the second collapse due to the Jovian Disease.
His faction was ruthless and strong-armed in uniting the Jove, but they were not a tyranny- their goal was to unite the Jovians.
Now, the Drifters today operate under the name "Vigilant Tyrannos".
The names sound similar, but if you look at the meaning, it's even more interesting: "Vigilant" has a latin origin meaning aware or watchful.
The name then becomes "Watchful Tyrants".
There's just too much relation here for it to be a mere coincidence- EVE Source (where I got this info- see here and here) is the most recently published lore compendium and lists this as an important fact of the Jovians. The names are eerily similar, and their description is even more telling:
Quote:Emerging from the ruins of the Sleeper civilization spread throughout Anoikis GÇô otherwise known as 'W-space' GÇô the Drifters represent a tremendous challenge and perhaps a dire threat to the empires and capsuleers alike. Seemingly the inheritors of a legacy left behind by some of the most ancient Jove, the Drifters are unafraid to wield tremendous power in response to any who get in their way. In this regard, the Drifters are a very different conundrum than the relatively benign presence that was the Jove Empire.
Now, though we know the Sleepers are in danger as a result of the Other and the others, I do not have enough certainty to speculate on why it says "ruins of the Sleeper Civilization".
And as for the part about the Jovians, remember, this is written from an IC perspective from CONCORD: the Jovians haven't made contact in years and it is likely that this "benign presence" they talk about is precisely that- not the Jovian Directorate itself, but their contact with the empires.
But now for the important part:
Quote:Seemingly the inheritors of a legacy left behind by some of the most ancient Jove, the Drifters are unafraid to wield tremendous power in response to any who get in their way.
The Tyrannos inherit a legacy left behind by ancient Jovians- older than the modern Sleepers themselves, Bour's Tyrants were the greatest power of the Second Empire. If any legacy is implied here, it seems more than likely that this is it: the Drifters have taken up the mantle of the Tyrants. And just like the Tyrants, the Tyrannos of the Drifters do not shy away from exhibiting power to those who oppose them; Bour united the Jovians through strength and influence, and not in a gentle way in some cases (as told by EVE Source).
I am certain there is an important link here.
Now, time for another interesting thing:
A specific chronicle, Repair Man, involves two mysterious pilots who shut down a capsuleer and do... something to him.
They fly two mysterious ships and have two "names":
The Hunter and the Healer.
Now, I want you to again look to what's happening now- the Drifter battleships we see so far are piloted by either Apollo Tyrannos or Artemis Tyrannos- their names are where this fits together,
Artemis is a hunter.
Apollo, though usually associated with the sun, is also a "healer".
Though there are some differences between them and the chronicle's characters, I find this, too, a very curious "coincidence" (and considering the chronicle is from 2002, some things may have changed since then).
I also find it interesting to note that today's SCOPE broadcast (in which my backside looks pretty damn nice ), they mention the ...
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
1985
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Posted - 2015.02.14 02:59:33 -
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Dude I love your posts |
Claud Tiberius
Fidelas Constans
95
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Posted - 2015.02.14 03:03:42 -
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Aww I was expecting the super weapon to fire in the direction that the ship was facing...
Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
921
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Posted - 2015.02.14 03:06:42 -
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Someone like this post so I come back and re-read this. I really need to read more back story.
I play EVE because I read a book. I tried to go and be a Gurista, still have assets out there from my first week in EVE.
CSM Ten movement for change.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids.
Status: Rabid carebear
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Allant Doran
Patriot Security Services New Signature
61
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Posted - 2015.02.14 03:20:55 -
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Fantastic theory! It certainly isn't unlike Jovians to wield immense power to prove a point. Vak'Atioth proves as much. I'm coming around to the idea that these guys are a disease-ridden, principles-intact section of the Jove, returning wit the power to raise a fourth, powerful Empire.
As for the Circadians transmitting data to us, I am SO glad you picked up on that too. When I watched the video earlier today, it made me raise an eyebrow. I don't think I've ever seen that as a player theory, certainly not a super common one, so could that be a hint from CCP?
Perhaps, if you are 'transmitted to', by a circadian seeker then your current pod, assuming you aren't podded, holds some special function or is flagged for something to come? Who knows! |
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17130
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Posted - 2015.02.14 04:55:11 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Someone like this post so I come back and re-read this. I really need to read more back story.
I play EVE because I read a book. I tried to go and be a Gurista, still have assets out there from my first week in EVE. The Guristas are my favorite Pirates for sure
And there's just so much to learn! It's crazy!
Also, thanks Rowells
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1157
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Posted - 2015.02.14 05:40:59 -
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The big question is....can we get these guys to attack Jita 4-4?
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
482
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Posted - 2015.02.14 06:35:52 -
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Interacting with sleepers when?
Faction warfare pilot and solo/small gang PVP advocate
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6238
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Posted - 2015.02.14 08:00:35 -
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Special thanks to the OP for the excellent research and being on the ball with these topics. Jovian Labs is living up to its name.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1358
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Posted - 2015.02.14 09:42:59 -
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A very detailed & informative post! Can't wait to see what will come out of all this! I am working on a new Jove article myself, related to all these revelations on SiSi, but as my Eve news-blog 'Aurora News' is In-Character, publications will be delayed till 17 februari.
I like to thank Uriel for all his efforts! He does make my job of reporting on these changes alot easier!
The Republic strikes back!
The Arcology Convoy is an overwhelming success!
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
3742
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Posted - 2015.02.14 10:04:53 -
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Now I have a question... where do guristas/player-built gates fit into this?
WHAT is coming through them as per the Amarran Book of Revelations?
Or... maybe the Guristas built their gate... stepped into Drifters' premises... and Drifters are peeking at capsuleer space as to see what did their Jove cousins achieved by handing out the Pod to unevolved primates?
A part of me is willing to get carried away and wish for a) the Drifters being either true neutral or chaotic neutral and b) a way so capsuleers can align with non-evil for a change.
Yet another part says that I am a hisec carebear and I will not use any PvE content that exposes myself to PvP against other player ships. Like, going into some stupid wormhole to meet the Drifters...
The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! Ingame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
16098
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Posted - 2015.02.14 12:17:31 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Yet another part says that I am a hisec carebear and I will not use any PvE content that exposes myself to PvP against other player ships. Like, going into some stupid wormhole to meet the Drifters...
How does one PvE without undocking?
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Kaarous Aldurald
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11771
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Posted - 2015.02.14 12:20:36 -
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Malcanis wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Yet another part says that I am a hisec carebear and I will not use any PvE content that exposes myself to PvP against other player ships. Like, going into some stupid wormhole to meet the Drifters...
How does one PvE without undocking?
I guess ship spinning counts as PvE, since you get a counter and you just watch it go higher and higher through repeating precisely the same action every time.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
8897
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Posted - 2015.02.14 13:11:28 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Malcanis wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Yet another part says that I am a hisec carebear and I will not use any PvE content that exposes myself to PvP against other player ships. Like, going into some stupid wormhole to meet the Drifters...
How does one PvE without undocking? I guess ship spinning counts as PvE, since you get a counter and you just watch it go higher and higher through repeating precisely the same action every time. nope, thats been pvp since they gave us a counter i.e. a means to compete.
this content looks interesting, we have one of these structures in our home system so i will be keeping an eye.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Stitch Kaneland
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
146
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Posted - 2015.02.14 13:36:17 -
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I was on SiSi last night and saw my first drifter. Im not yet into all the lore, but this is probably the most ive been interested in it. One thing i noticed (that im sure others have as well) is the tank effect on the hull. Looks like an invuln field thats white/gold. Could this just be for decor? Or an indication of a new type of defense?
Actually, is it in relation to the 2nd shield they have? Forgot they had that till i got done typing. (I was hoping for a hull resist mod :D).
Goodpost though. I am enjoying these more and more. |
Prt Scr
569th Freelancers
117
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Posted - 2015.02.14 13:42:15 -
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Finaly a good article on evenews24............ and its about this topic;
http://evenews24.com/2015/02/13/drifters/
i guess its all over now, i'll just get out the noctis and salvage the wrecks
Je suis charlie
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1360
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Posted - 2015.02.14 13:43:36 -
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Stitch Kaneland wrote:I One thing i noticed (that im sure others have as well) is the tank effect on the hull. Looks like an invuln field thats white/gold. Could this just be for decor? Or an indication of a new type of defense?
Actually, is it in relation to the 2nd shield they have? Forgot they had that till i got done typing. (I was hoping for a hull resist mod :D).
The module Reactive Armor Hardener actually comes with a golden glow on ships that equip & activate it. The glow you see could hint that drifters have a similar capacity on their hull/armor, ability to modify resistances to the damage type most used against them.
Note just a hypothesis based on your observations, would be neat tho.
The Republic strikes back!
The Arcology Convoy is an overwhelming success!
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3146
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Posted - 2015.02.14 14:54:51 -
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Ive heard many speculate that the Jove gave us pod technology in order to turn us into a weapon. But a weapon to use against what? The four major empires are certainly a possible target. But maybe the drifters are the target. The Jove could be divided up into factions themselves. Maybe the Jove, at least the group who gave us pod technology, have a enemy, currently represented by the drifters.
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17141
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Posted - 2015.02.14 15:07:09 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Ive heard many speculate that the Jove gave us pod technology in order to turn us into a weapon. But a weapon to use against what? The four major empires are certainly a possible target. But maybe the drifters are the target. The Jove could be divided up into factions themselves. Maybe the Jove, at least the group who gave us pod technology, have a enemy, currently represented by the drifters. Well, that could be true- however, I've always been of the persuasion that they have used the capsules to gather information- what, specifically, that information would be, I cannot say. However, I also do not think the Drifters are the "enemy" here.
The Other is a threat to the Sleepers, Jovians, Enheduanni, and certainly extends to the Drifters, who come from Anoikis and, more likely than not, the Construct. If they are indeed awakened Architects or Enheduanni under the mantle of the Tyrants, having left the construct to come back to New Eden, the only enemy that makes immediate sense is the Other- it is responsible for the destruction of the Sleepers' world
Of course, there's a lot we don't know yet- but these are just my ideas so far :)
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Sovauthority Sov-Rus
JLS Enforcers Justice League of Space
0
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Posted - 2015.02.14 15:51:28 -
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Very interesting. I used to think that the Circadian Sleepers returned to New Eden to continue their original research that led them to W-Space, research for a cure of the Jovian Disease, their original reason for entering W-Space.
It is theorized that the Talocan inhabited a different galaxy and were not affected by the radiation of the collapsed EVE Gate because of their distance. It is also theorized that the Sleepers and Jovians had a strong connection to each other and that the Sleepers also suffered from the disease. Their search is believed to have been the cause of the eradication of the Talocan and the Yan Jung nation, as a cause for looking for fresh, un-altered human DNA to fix their corrupted DNA, since the Jovian disease is genetic. Could it have been the drifters carrying out the attacks on the Talocan?
Now, since the Sleepers were masters of virtual technology, their temporary cure from the disease was to put themselves in a virtual world free from any problems. Since it is unknown of the fate of the Sleepers, for there is a theory they inhabit the datacenters that we cannot break, thus it is UNKNOWN if the current Sleeper drones are controlled or maintain a highly advanced Artificial Intelligence. Given information from the Scope news saying that they communicate through implants to humans, could it be the Sleepers inhabiting the virtual world making the communication through a frequency found on implants?
Since it is believed that Jovian emotions may be completely different from ours from much gene manipulation, they could see that genocide is completely justified for their own survival (as is believed for the genocide of the Talocans). So here are the questions that can open up based on these theories gathered from archaeological excavations and research into the ancient races.
1 - Do the Drifters also carry the Jovian disease?
2 - Are they ready to take what they are looking for through force? As perhaps the Sleepers did with the Talocan so long ago?
3 - How many sub-factions and connections do the Jove really have?
4 - Are they behind the reason of Circadian Seekers coming to Empire Space in the first place? To scout out and see if anything is there for their interests? To test the compatibility of capsuleers implants to see if the DNA is the one they seek? |
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Sing Khai
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.02.14 16:17:34 -
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Jandice Ymladris wrote:A very detailed & informative post! Can't wait to see what will come out of all this! I am working on a new Jove article myself, related to all these revelations on SiSi, but as my Eve news-blog 'Aurora News' is In-Character, publications will be delayed till 17 februari.
I like to thank Uriel for all his efforts! He does make my job of reporting on these changes alot easier! Looking forward to that
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Sansh Leko
The Scope Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2015.02.14 16:34:49 -
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Rowells wrote:Dude I love your posts
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Special thanks to the OP for the excellent research and being on the ball with these topics. Jovian Labs is living up to its name.
Jandice Ymladris wrote:I like to thank Uriel for all his efforts! He does make my job of lore drooling alot easier!
Cant wait for Thuesday, nuff said.
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Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
293
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Posted - 2015.02.14 17:03:52 -
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Oh man indeed!
I just love how tremendously complex is this whole puzzle of hints and references that is the lore of EVE, especially its most ancient parts. And I love it even more when someone manages to pull out conclusions and help to bring its secrets to the light!
Congratulations Uriel, because I'm sure you've hit it the head!
Now I can't wait for Tiamat and future releases, even less than before. |
Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
294
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Posted - 2015.02.14 17:21:11 -
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I just remembered about something...
While brainstorming about the Gnosis, the following came to my mind... What's with the Society of Concious Thought? Where do they fit in this whole puzzle? Will they be affected by the upcoming changes? Why do they gift us progressively more powerful ships? I know they're not a Jove faction per se, but they do have deep roots and relations with them. |
Malika Kementari
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2015.02.14 20:51:02 -
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All of this is very interesting, thanks Uriel :)
What comes to mind by reading this is that specifically our minds may not be as safe as we thought... If one can speak and scan our minds through our implants and neuronal interface, what else could they do... implant thoughts ? Modify our behavior ?
Looks like the Sansha are only kids beside those guys... :s
Wondering how one could remove those neural interface from my head.... ;) |
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.02.14 21:13:42 -
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One page 135 of here "https://books.google.com/books?id=byVMAgAAQBAJ&lpg=PP1&pg=PA134#v=onepage&q&f=false" they they talk of Statics and Modifiers, the groups with in the Jovian Empire. Is it logical to assume the Statics are the Sleepers based on the discussions of the VR implementation and the apparent disappearence of the major of that group after the fall of the Second Empire? They also talk of Conclaves and of course Conclaves appear all over W-Space.
If perhaps the Statics/Sleepers left to W-Space colonized it then some catastrophe occurred to their VR-World or their Construct leaving the minds stuck permanently in Sleeper shells. And her we are killing them, basically ignorantly committing genocide to harvest what we see as resources.
Enter the Drifters. Sansha wears his pants a little to high, goes to the territory next door to Jove Space and gets himself in trouble. Jovians get pissed awaken and see we've been screwing with the Sleepers, their long lost brethren from Enclave 27 and say enough is enough.
I never liked Sansha. I say we start a new imitative to purge all Nation outposts and personnel. |
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17149
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Posted - 2015.02.14 22:35:18 -
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@Malika,
Well you have implants to plug into your (jovian-based) pod
@Eliya,
The Stasis People are akmost definitely sleepers- and they may even be in contact with them- Source has a lot of interesting info Also, the EOM may have been supposed to be the incursion faction (but I can't really confirm it :P)
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
19827
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Posted - 2015.02.15 00:12:53 -
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Posts like these make some CCP employees start furiously patting themselves on the back...
..or laugh their ***** off.. either one really.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Allant Doran
Patriot Security Services New Signature
61
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Posted - 2015.02.15 00:37:49 -
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Content like this is making me wish my alt hadn't literally only just been born. It's planned to be a 100% Exploration alt, specialising (to the point of Mastery V eventually) in all the SoE ships.
I'll be in my T1, unskilled probing Frig for a while though. Hope I can get in on some of this discovery stuff while it's still new and exciting, roughly 176 days from now, when I have Stratios Mastery IV. |
Lengurathmir Elinor
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
3
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Posted - 2015.02.15 00:56:29 -
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I consume all lore related to this like a fat kid does to cake... I am thanking our Jovian Archivist Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci for all his grand efforts to decrypt all those events, this is why I love our corp, it fits right where I want to be. Anything Jovian is of paramount interest to me.
Now excuse me, I am off to the next trade hub to purchase more Apotheosis and Gnosis and other things... |
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.02.15 09:01:11 -
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Uriel Paradisi, new question for you. Could the Unidentified Structures be a form of Kitz? |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1365
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Posted - 2015.02.15 11:39:56 -
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Anyone remember the Prosper vault Jove system? The one where the Sansha was spotted during the Live event Sansha Invasions? Looks they awoke something that should have best kept sleeping.... Jove Directorate system turns Drifter
(Image from this thread: Jove, Sansha & Drifters by Medarr, posted it in this thread as well, as it's relevant & keeping info in as few threads as possible) )
Concord also knows more about all this!
Uriel, better get your fellow Jovians out before they all turn cybernetic!
The Republic strikes back!
The Arcology Convoy is an overwhelming success!
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17163
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Posted - 2015.02.15 23:54:37 -
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Jandice Ymladris wrote:Anyone remember the Prosper vault Jove system? The one where the Sansha was spotted during the Live event Sansha Invasions? Looks they awoke something that should have best kept sleeping.... Jove Directorate system turns Drifter(Image from this thread: Jove, Sansha & Drifters by Medarr, posted it in this thread as well, as it's relevant & keeping info in as few threads as possible) ) Concord also knows more about all this! Uriel, better get your fellow Jovians out before they all turn cybernetic! Along with being the Drifter HQ, it's also the Jove Empire HQ- a little strange, isn't it?
And I certainly hope they don't
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Chell Nigiri
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2015.02.16 05:25:37 -
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Has there been any testing done on the Drifters with Polarized weapons yet?
I've heard the theory been brought up before, but haven't heard of the results of testing it.
Any updates? |
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4269
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Posted - 2015.02.16 06:06:29 -
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Chell Nigiri wrote:Has there been any testing done on the Drifters with Polarized weapons yet?
I've heard the theory been brought up before, but haven't heard of the results of testing it.
Any updates? Oops, I'll get on to that.
I've been putting in too much effort into killing them with 60k SP characters. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6247
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Posted - 2015.02.16 09:02:03 -
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I wonder if we'll get Rhoetic armor
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Soldarius
Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent
1095
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Posted - 2015.02.16 15:43:06 -
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Wait just a tick.
The Sanshas Incursion into Jove space occurred in system 3-CE1R. Guess where the HQ system of the Drifter faction is? 3-CE1R. Coincidence?
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
518
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:46:32 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:they mention the theory that the Circadians are transmitting data TO us capsuleers through our implants, and not simply scanning us as many have thought
What if it is not with US that they are trying to communicate ? Since most of the capsule is Jove-tech maybe they were trying to get a message across to the Jove? And if that is the case it seems they got their message through as soon after the Drifters appeared.
" And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit -
I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! "
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
888
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:58:41 -
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All I know is I pulled myself out of a wormhole last night so I could get a look at these things tomorrow.
Can't wait
Vote Sabriz!
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4476
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Posted - 2015.02.16 23:54:28 -
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Chell Nigiri wrote:Has there been any testing done on the Drifters with Polarized weapons yet?
I've heard the theory been brought up before, but haven't heard of the results of testing it.
Any updates? The answer is no.
Polarized weapons do not shoot through the Overshield, as far as I've tested.
Nothing special happens when you penetrate the Overshield either. It still doomsdays you. |
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jullll
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
4
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:18:02 -
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What's the point of those new NPCs ?
-Will they be profitable ? Making some 0.0 regions more profitable. - Will they clear unused sovs ? Attack TCUs by themselves. - Will they attack POSs by themselves ?
Seems pointless atm, like sleepers scanning stuff at gates.
I would be a great 0.0 improvements seeing them be profitable&clear sovs.
Anyone ? |
Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
910
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:27:45 -
[42] - Quote
jullll wrote:What's the point of those new NPCs ?
-Will they be profitable ? Making some regions more profitable. - Will they clear unused sovs ? Attack TCUs by themselves. - Will they attack POSs by themselves ?
Seems pointless atm, like sleepers scanning stuff at gates.
I would be a great 0.0 improvements seeing them be profitable&clear sovs.
Anyone ?
Right now, their point is testing new AI behavior and moving along the story to ~something~. We'll see if they get used for anything else.
Vote Sabriz!
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Rawthorm
D.M.T inc Circle-Of-Two
49
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:32:53 -
[43] - Quote
Ned Thomas wrote:jullll wrote:What's the point of those new NPCs ?
-Will they be profitable ? Making some regions more profitable. - Will they clear unused sovs ? Attack TCUs by themselves. - Will they attack POSs by themselves ?
Seems pointless atm, like sleepers scanning stuff at gates.
I would be a great 0.0 improvements seeing them be profitable&clear sovs.
Anyone ? Right now, their point is testing new AI behavior and moving along the story to ~something~. We'll see if they get used for anything else. No one is going to test these things properly if the only incentive is to have a ship you no longer wanted atomized |
Lachesiss
nomnomnom MOAR BABIES The Pursuit of Happiness
235
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:37:41 -
[44] - Quote
Im actually just lmao at the chars who don't read forums or patch updates and see one of these things with there mastercard paid for golem.
"ooo shinney new rat, ill shoot it"
BLAM!!!
CCP gotta be pissing themselves with laughter on this in certain respects. I know I would be
On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5864
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:38:07 -
[45] - Quote
Rawthorm wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:jullll wrote:What's the point of those new NPCs ?
-Will they be profitable ? Making some regions more profitable. - Will they clear unused sovs ? Attack TCUs by themselves. - Will they attack POSs by themselves ?
Seems pointless atm, like sleepers scanning stuff at gates.
I would be a great 0.0 improvements seeing them be profitable&clear sovs.
Anyone ? Right now, their point is testing new AI behavior and moving along the story to ~something~. We'll see if they get used for anything else. No one is going to test these things properly if the only incentive is to have a ship you no longer wanted atomized
Let the DD happen to a throwaway ship, then kill it with others. This doesn't sound like a difficult strategy to employ.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Sansh Leko
The Scope Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:43:02 -
[46] - Quote
Someone got melted allready...?
oops |
Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
910
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:45:19 -
[47] - Quote
Sansh Leko wrote:Someone got melted allready...? oops
Ha!
Vote Sabriz!
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
14008
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:45:46 -
[48] - Quote
So their superweapon is really just a broadcast to our implants that we should self-destruct?
/c
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Rawthorm
D.M.T inc Circle-Of-Two
49
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:52:02 -
[49] - Quote
War Kitten wrote:Rawthorm wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:jullll wrote:What's the point of those new NPCs ?
-Will they be profitable ? Making some regions more profitable. - Will they clear unused sovs ? Attack TCUs by themselves. - Will they attack POSs by themselves ?
Seems pointless atm, like sleepers scanning stuff at gates.
I would be a great 0.0 improvements seeing them be profitable&clear sovs.
Anyone ? Right now, their point is testing new AI behavior and moving along the story to ~something~. We'll see if they get used for anything else. No one is going to test these things properly if the only incentive is to have a ship you no longer wanted atomized Let the DD happen to a throwaway ship, then kill it with others. This doesn't sound like a difficult strategy to employ.
Not saying they can't be beaten. Sounds pretty easy, but why would you bother? Loot makes the world go round good sir... |
Commissar Kate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
393548
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:54:29 -
[50] - Quote
Lachesiss wrote:Im actually just lmao at the chars who don't read forums or patch updates and see one of these things with there mastercard paid for golem.
"ooo shinney new rat, ill shoot it"
BLAM!!!
CCP gotta be pissing themselves with laughter on this in certain respects. I know I would be
Hahah, so very true.
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Arden Elenduil
Snuggle Society Snuggle Society.
288
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:00:19 -
[51] - Quote
Has anyone tried aligning out and warping as soon as the TSB hits? Thus getting the hell out of dodge before the minuteman (miniature doomsday, why not) hits? |
Dave Stark
7374
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:01:51 -
[52] - Quote
Arden Elenduil wrote:Has anyone tried aligning out and warping as soon as the TSB hits? Thus getting the hell out of dodge before the minuteman (miniature doomsday, why not) hits?
if they follow you in warp, i imagine unless you dock up they'll just follow you then blap you.
at a guess. |
Lachesiss
nomnomnom MOAR BABIES The Pursuit of Happiness
235
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:07:12 -
[53] - Quote
I think somebody warped to there pos on sisi and they blew up the pos HA!
On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5864
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:13:22 -
[54] - Quote
Rawthorm wrote:War Kitten wrote:Rawthorm wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:jullll wrote:What's the point of those new NPCs ?
-Will they be profitable ? Making some regions more profitable. - Will they clear unused sovs ? Attack TCUs by themselves. - Will they attack POSs by themselves ?
Seems pointless atm, like sleepers scanning stuff at gates.
I would be a great 0.0 improvements seeing them be profitable&clear sovs.
Anyone ? Right now, their point is testing new AI behavior and moving along the story to ~something~. We'll see if they get used for anything else. No one is going to test these things properly if the only incentive is to have a ship you no longer wanted atomized Let the DD happen to a throwaway ship, then kill it with others. This doesn't sound like a difficult strategy to employ. Not saying they can't be beaten. Sounds pretty easy, but why would you bother? Loot makes the world go round good sir...
Has anyone killed one on TQ yet to see if they have loot?
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Lachesiss
nomnomnom MOAR BABIES The Pursuit of Happiness
235
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:18:24 -
[55] - Quote
After seeing that carrier go down im kinda thinking how hilarious it would be for 3 of those drifter BS to sit on Jita undock for a couple of hours
On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
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Rawthorm
D.M.T inc Circle-Of-Two
50
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Posted - 2015.02.17 14:20:50 -
[56] - Quote
War Kitten wrote:Rawthorm wrote: Not saying they can't be beaten. Sounds pretty easy, but why would you bother? Loot makes the world go round good sir...
Has anyone killed one on TQ yet to see if they have loot?
Some reports of a few people using a carrier to kill one. No bounty or drop, only sleeper salvage, but not confirmed this myself. |
Soldarius
Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent
1101
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Posted - 2015.02.17 15:21:03 -
[57] - Quote
A Phoenix has no trouble melting Drifters and can fairly easily tank the DD. Webbing support not required but highly encouraged.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Scath Bererund
Heuristic Industrial And Development
3
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Posted - 2015.02.17 15:37:30 -
[58] - Quote
how do you even find the drifters? checked 12 towers now and still nothing |
Captain Awkward
Republic University Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2015.02.17 15:55:05 -
[59] - Quote
And here we go ...
https://zkillboard.com/ship/34495/ |
Darren Airtex
Born Imperialism
9
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Posted - 2015.02.17 16:13:46 -
[60] - Quote
Not worth messing with as for myself. If the Drifters do that kind of damage, then why bother, biggest thing I can fly is not enough to dent it. |
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Bomerang
Dai Dai Hai
2
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Posted - 2015.02.17 17:12:11 -
[61] - Quote
How did that Anathema die to a drifter BS as it had no offensive modules?
https://zkillboard.com/kill/44676714/
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Sansh Leko
The Scope Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2015.02.17 17:24:08 -
[62] - Quote
Anathema probably uncloaked very close to the structure.
That makes Drifter Battleships lil angry. |
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
87
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Posted - 2015.02.17 17:34:33 -
[63] - Quote
Just wait till it comes out that Drifters can see through cloaks.
You've just read another awesome post by Chance Ravinne, CEO of EVE's #1 torpedo delivery service. Watch our misadventures on my YouTube channel: WINGSPANTT
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
911
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Posted - 2015.02.17 17:38:58 -
[64] - Quote
The Drifters don't wait for you to shoot them.
Vote Sabriz!
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
7934
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Posted - 2015.02.17 17:56:15 -
[65] - Quote
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:Ive heard many speculate that the Jove gave us pod technology in order to turn us into a weapon. But a weapon to use against what? The four major empires are certainly a possible target. But maybe the drifters are the target. The Jove could be divided up into factions themselves. Maybe the Jove, at least the group who gave us pod technology, have a enemy, currently represented by the drifters. Well, that could be true- however, I've always been of the persuasion that they have used the capsules to gather information- what, specifically, that information would be, I cannot say. However, I also do not think the Drifters are the "enemy" here. The Other is a threat to the Sleepers, Jovians, Enheduanni, and certainly extends to the Drifters, who come from Anoikis and, more likely than not, the Construct. If they are indeed awakened Architects or Enheduanni under the mantle of the Tyrants, having left the construct to come back to New Eden, the only enemy that makes immediate sense is the Other- it is responsible for the destruction of the Sleepers' world Of course, there's a lot we don't know yet- but these are just my ideas so far :)
Other is enemy of everyone... but not the Talocans.
Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
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Aria Jenneth
Perkone Caldari State
213
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:02:50 -
[66] - Quote
Just for the record, CCP:
It would be nice if either (1) you could keep the "secret" knowledge under your hats or (2) you could let those of us who care about "what our characters know" in on the joke sooner rather than later.
Tony G. revealed the "Other" years ago, and we're still having to pretend we don't know about it. |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1382
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:39:10 -
[67] - Quote
Well, can finally publish my article i've been holing up for so long \o/ With some last minute additions:
The Jove have returned and they have such sights to show us....
Also, the homesystem of my Arcology project (where I collect my civilians) has it's very own tower & drifters Exiting times ahead for my civvies!
The Jove have returned and they have such sights to show us....
The Republic strikes back!
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Treize Vernier
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:39:15 -
[68] - Quote
Perhaps they do have offense modules, but they are not identifiable or even compatible with known technology? |
Arden Elenduil
Snuggle Society Snuggle Society.
290
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:46:40 -
[69] - Quote
Drifters also aggro based on proximity, not just agressive acts |
Bomerang
Dai Dai Hai
2
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Posted - 2015.02.17 18:56:10 -
[70] - Quote
Ok, had to go to sisi to check out this. Not keep on getting fragged over and over to learn nothing new..
So, can anyone tell me anything about the 'Unidentified Wormhole' which appear in the same system as the 'Unidentified Structure'?
http://i57.tinypic.com/ojgmbk.png
All I know so far is that the Drifter BS approach it and seems to jump through. There is no jump selection if you go up to it and right-click it. Are those spotted on Tranqulity yet? |
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1383
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Posted - 2015.02.17 19:34:41 -
[71] - Quote
Not much is known yet about those Unidentifed wormholes. It's suggested they're the 'gate network' used by the drifters to move around.
It's possible, as there are no Drifters in Irjunen, despite it housing a Jovian listening post (Unidentifed structure) However there is no Unidentified Wormhole present in system. So far, only Seekers patrolled the structure, no drifters yet.
The Jove have returned and they have such sights to show us....
The Republic strikes back!
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Agent Unknown
Night Theifs DamnedNation
17
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Posted - 2015.02.17 20:09:51 -
[72] - Quote
Probably just a coincidence, but when I ran the "Independence" combat site yesterday (drone anom) it had a couple unidentified wormholes that were lockable but you couldn't shoot them. |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1383
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Posted - 2015.02.17 20:23:11 -
[73] - Quote
Did some inside exploring of the structure today!
Images: Exploring the inside of the Jovian structure
Can't fly in deep, but gives some neat looks.
One thing catched my inetrest, the 'docking day' (large gap in 'front' is pointed directly at the local sun. I'm curious if all the Jovian structures have the same orientation? Could mean something, as I remember sleepers drawing energy from their local suns.
The Jove have returned and they have such sights to show us....
The Republic strikes back!
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Rawthorm
D.M.T inc Circle-Of-Two
50
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Posted - 2015.02.17 21:36:19 -
[74] - Quote
The more i look at that structure, the more I think "If drifters made naglafar's..." |
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
913
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Posted - 2015.02.17 21:52:52 -
[75] - Quote
So from what I've seen, the Drifters only appear in systems with the Unidentified Wormholes, and the Wormholes do NOT appear in every system that has an unidentified structure. I haven't seen anyone say that they've found a Wormhole in a system that doesn't have a structure.
So I'm still not convinced that the Drifters and the Towers are necessarily on the same side.
Vote Sabriz!
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Ravasta Helugo
Republic University Minmatar Republic
298
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Posted - 2015.02.17 21:56:21 -
[76] - Quote
I hope the Eve Birthday gift this year is a drifter frigate. Uber kickass (in scaled down form) and with the cool floaty turrets with unlimited ammo... No way to ever replace the ones that are destroyed.
A man can dream. |
Aeril Malkyre
Knights of the Ouroboros
389
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Posted - 2015.02.17 22:41:18 -
[77] - Quote
Rawthorm wrote:The more i look at that structure, the more I think "If drifters made naglafar's..." From the Naglfar's own description:
Quote:The Naglfar is based on a Matari design believed to date back to the earliest annals of antiquity. While the exact evolution of memes informing its figure is unclear, the same distinctive vertical monolith form has shown up time and time again in the wind-scattered remnants of Matari legend. I'd dare say the Drifters were making the Swaglfar BEFORE us. |
Metal Icarus
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
730
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Posted - 2015.02.18 00:21:05 -
[78] - Quote
So, I am not one for investigating anything, but this "unidentified structure" caught our attention.
After doing some close, deep, and thorough investigative probing into the cavities of this huge erect structure, we found that it is hollow!
Its like it has opening for something, like a hangar.... |
Jeaile
OCBF
26
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Posted - 2015.02.18 05:21:53 -
[79] - Quote
Woohoo, docking facility for supercaps |
Daionnis
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion.
31
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Posted - 2015.02.18 05:46:04 -
[80] - Quote
I was on my way to the EVE Gate when my old nemesis, ADHD, reminded me that I have that, and that also (!!!) the structures are now visible!
Naturally I could not resist the siren's call that is ADHD, and our good friend Adderall is nowhere to be found, so I was like "Okay Mr. Jump Route, bye-bye!" and warped to the nearest structure.
... And lost my crow.
First the two Circadian Seekers that were there and scanning the Drifter ship started shooting missiles at me, so I stopped being a dumbass and actually started moving, MWD on fulle bore, and then the Drifter locked me, and one-shot me.
The Circadian Seekers, who most certainly did damage me, didn't even show up on the kill report.
Total damage taken: 1,490 for a travel-fit Crow.
So, do with that information what you will. |
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Lachesiss
nomnomnom MOAR BABIES The Pursuit of Happiness
238
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Posted - 2015.02.18 07:59:25 -
[81] - Quote
Really good Blogg. Thanks
On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
33500
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Posted - 2015.02.18 08:15:14 -
[82] - Quote
Mike Adoulin wrote:The big question is....can we get these guys to attack Jita 4-4? CCPLEASE
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Lachesiss
nomnomnom MOAR BABIES The Pursuit of Happiness
238
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Posted - 2015.02.18 08:31:31 -
[83] - Quote
Liafcipe9000 wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:The big question is....can we get these guys to attack Jita 4-4? CCPLEASE
Even a nice Show up on the perimeter gate or new caldari gate when the gates are closed on a Sunday would do.
On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
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Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
300
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Posted - 2015.02.18 09:53:46 -
[84] - Quote
Aeril Malkyre wrote:Rawthorm wrote:The more i look at that structure, the more I think "If drifters made naglafar's..." From the Naglfar's own description: Quote:The Naglfar is based on a Matari design believed to date back to the earliest annals of antiquity. While the exact evolution of memes informing its figure is unclear, the same distinctive vertical monolith form has shown up time and time again in the wind-scattered remnants of Matari legend. I'd dare say the Drifters were making the Swaglfar BEFORE us. I think you just nailed something
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
6031
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Posted - 2015.02.18 10:21:34 -
[85] - Quote
Question: How common are stars with a vertical flare and how many of those have a Drifter Monolith in them? Because I noticed this in Ivih, Tash-Murkon region.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Sean Parisi
Fugutive Task Force A T O N E M E N T
630
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Posted - 2015.02.18 10:22:21 -
[86] - Quote
Chell Nigiri wrote:Has there been any testing done on the Drifters with Polarized weapons yet?
I've heard the theory been brought up before, but haven't heard of the results of testing it.
Any updates?
I've been thinking about this as well. I remember hearing people talk about how previous lore super weapons used a ships resistances against the ship. So by removing resists with a polarized weapon would it stop the super weapon? |
Sha'Kor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.02.18 10:36:47 -
[87] - Quote
Sean Parisi wrote:Chell Nigiri wrote:Has there been any testing done on the Drifters with Polarized weapons yet?
I've heard the theory been brought up before, but haven't heard of the results of testing it.
Any updates? I've been thinking about this as well. I remember hearing people talk about how previous lore super weapons used a ships resistances against the ship. So by removing resists with a polarized weapon would it stop the super weapon?
Yeah, I am also curious how do these weapons affect the drifters and their mini doomsday machine...
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Avaelica Kuershin
14
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Posted - 2015.02.18 11:28:40 -
[88] - Quote
Very interesting these Drifters, and very touchy. They certainly don't appear to appreciate an active lock but seemed unfazed by fireworks. |
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4734
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Posted - 2015.02.18 11:36:47 -
[89] - Quote
Sha'Kor wrote:Sean Parisi wrote:Chell Nigiri wrote:Has there been any testing done on the Drifters with Polarized weapons yet?
I've heard the theory been brought up before, but haven't heard of the results of testing it.
Any updates? I've been thinking about this as well. I remember hearing people talk about how previous lore super weapons used a ships resistances against the ship. So by removing resists with a polarized weapon would it stop the super weapon? Yeah, I am also curious how do these weapons affect the drifters and their mini doomsday machine... Like, it's literally right here. |
Allant Doran
Patriot Security Services New Signature
65
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Posted - 2015.02.18 12:02:31 -
[90] - Quote
Abrazzar wrote:Question: How common are stars with a vertical flare and how many of those have a Drifter Monolith in them? Because I noticed this in Ivih, Tash-Murkon region.
I was wondering this myself. There's a system I was in recently, sadly I forget which one, which had an Unidentified Structure And a green-coloured Star with vertical flare.
Edit: Vaankalen has a star like this, but no structure. |
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4755
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Posted - 2015.02.18 12:19:09 -
[91] - Quote
Abrazzar wrote:Question: How common are stars with a vertical flare and how many of those have a Drifter Monolith in them? Because I noticed this in Ivih, Tash-Murkon region. I haven't noticed any trends of the sorts.
Structures seems to be randomly distributed among systems around the map. As I say, I have not noticed any trends in star flares.
Structures will remain in a system if there was a Wormhole there prior to downtime. It will despawn in the next downtime.
However, the Wormholes appear to have a very high chance of spawning in Amarrian space. Khanid, in particular.
It's where I've found about 60% of the Wormholes I've been testing.
I assume this has relevance to lore. |
Mornak
Exotic Dancers Union SONS of BANE
46
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Posted - 2015.02.18 12:57:11 -
[92] - Quote
Abrazzar wrote:Question: How common are stars with a vertical flare and how many of those have a Drifter Monolith in them? Because I noticed this in Ivih, Tash-Murkon region.
These vertical "flares" are there due to diffraction where the aperture blades of the camera meet (or other mechanical characteristics of the camera). All the lens-flares, Point Spread Functions, diffractions and so on are side-effects of the imaging system in use... the camera drones in our case. It's not an attribute of the light source, it's an attribute of the camera.
Imho this whole vertical-flare thing doesn't make any sense, unless your camera drone itself rotates 90-¦ in "vertical-flare" systems and you rotate the image back prior to displaying it. But it looks pretty and makes systems more distinguishable... so why the heck not.
I really hope that this does not go any further than just eye-candy though... or CCP would have to add another "scientific article" explaining it ;) |
Sha'Kor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.02.18 13:20:01 -
[93] - Quote
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Sha'Kor wrote:Sean Parisi wrote:Chell Nigiri wrote:Has there been any testing done on the Drifters with Polarized weapons yet?
I've heard the theory been brought up before, but haven't heard of the results of testing it.
Any updates? I've been thinking about this as well. I remember hearing people talk about how previous lore super weapons used a ships resistances against the ship. So by removing resists with a polarized weapon would it stop the super weapon? Yeah, I am also curious how do these weapons affect the drifters and their mini doomsday machine... Like, it's literally right here.
Damn, missed it, thx for the heads up :)
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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
916
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Posted - 2015.02.18 13:42:01 -
[94] - Quote
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Question: How common are stars with a vertical flare and how many of those have a Drifter Monolith in them? Because I noticed this in Ivih, Tash-Murkon region. I haven't noticed any trends of the sorts. Structures seems to be randomly distributed among systems around the map. As I say, I have not noticed any trends in star flares. Structures will remain in a system if there was a Wormhole there prior to downtime. It will despawn in the next downtime. However, the Wormholes appear to have a very high chance of spawning in Amarrian space. Khanid, in particular. It's where I've found about 60% of the Wormholes I've been testing. I assume this has relevance to lore.
I think Metro had a relatively high number of structures in it. I may go poke around there tonight.
Vote Sabriz!
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Soldarius
Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent
1103
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Posted - 2015.02.18 14:47:31 -
[95] - Quote
Chance Ravinne wrote:Just wait till it comes out that Drifters can see through cloaks.
They cannot. I've already approached to within 5k m of the wormhole while cloaked and not been seen.
Thus far, I have only seen Drifters in systems with the Unknown Wormhole celestial beacon.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Sansh Leko
The Scope Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2015.02.18 16:32:43 -
[96] - Quote
Next time when you guys find Unidentified Wormhole can you make a close up screenshot.
Only one I have seen so far live on server is from someone testing Zephyr on Drifter Battleship near the Unidentified Wormhole.
The other end of it looks like Thera background
Last time I checked myself on SISI one of them had probably the same light background.
Are they coming from massive systems like Thera itself, how many of them are out there if that is the case?
No way they are coming from Thera, there should be some evidence from residents so far with reports of Drifters in it. |
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2015.02.18 23:45:17 -
[97] - Quote
Sansh Leko wrote:Next time when you guys find Unidentified Wormhole can you make a close up screenshot. Only one I have seen so far live on server is from someone testing Zephyr on Drifter Battleship near the Unidentified Wormhole. The other end of it looks like Thera backgroundLast time I checked myself on SISI one of them had probably the same light background. Are they coming from massive systems like Thera itself, how many of them are out there if that is the case? No way they are coming from Thera, there should be some evidence from residents so far with reports of Drifters in it.
Now, THATs incredible. Those are indeed the exact same nebulae, you can tell even though the WH distorts the image the features of the nebulae (light and dark patches) are identical.
The question is whether that is intentional by CCP or just a coincidence. |
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
920
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Posted - 2015.02.19 00:08:14 -
[98] - Quote
The Borg Queen is tired of your sh*t
Also, Drifters have friendly fire set to illegal. Someone find a way to get one of them to attack another and get Concorded.
Vote Sabriz!
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6264
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Posted - 2015.02.19 00:35:04 -
[99] - Quote
I'd hit that.
Given what I hear about their ships though I don't expect to be on top, or seeing her face for that matter
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
920
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Posted - 2015.02.19 00:49:25 -
[100] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I'd hit that. Given what I hear about their ships though I don't expect to be on top, or seeing her face for that matter
Or consenting.
Vote Sabriz!
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Stig Elendil
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.02.19 02:27:48 -
[101] - Quote
All that is very interesting. Just would like to share few elements..
My goal was only to go see this new station/tower structure that was cloaked. And i found also an unidentified wh and Drifters and circadian seekers. While looking at the BS near the tower, he warped of in the wh direction just a second before the circadian seekers arrived. I warped to the wh and witnessed the Drifters BS slowly going toward the wh and literaly vanished once near it. I was myself cloaked at around 7500m of the BS. Did the BS knew they were coming ?
Circadian seekers and the Drifters ship scanned (or interacted with their white beam or kind of beam) the beacon (station and/or wh beacons to which you're warping at). I've already been scanned myself by one of this beam by circadian seekers, i killed them that time and they never shooted back (but i heard it has changed now) and that time it was harmless. That was just few things concerning their attitude in system.
Concerning towers it could be interesting to know if they are in systems with same sun type or anything common between systems. Some of you were talking about Thera (i took a pic of the wh but not as it was asked to so it probably wouldn't help much to show it) and before the patch i was wondering if Thera whs were not recurrently appearing in same systems and especialy close to those cloaked towers.
Since Thera appeared i have found 2 or 3 times a wh driving to Thera in the same system (no tower in this one) plus once in a system next to it and, coincidence (?), the "unidentified wh" appeared in the last one.
So, i'm not giving much informations, sorry, and i'm new in the Lore background (i have so much to see) but i just wanted to share those few things i noticed and my questioning about those wh. If anyone of you have some answers, i would be glad to have them. |
Rhavas
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
375
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Posted - 2015.02.19 04:13:24 -
[102] - Quote
Nice writeup Uriel. As you know and we've discussed, I agree with a number of your conjectures here - when I quipped that it "was the return of Miko Bour" I wasn't expecting that we'd get evidence of it just a few days later.
Whether this is really the Second Empire revisited remains to be seen, but there is very likely a connection - either in tech, ship usage, or in tribute to his legacy.
Author of Interstellar Privateer
Shattered Planets, Wormholes and Game Commentary
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KaRa DaVuT
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
260
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Posted - 2015.02.19 08:48:29 -
[103] - Quote
awesome post
Holiness is in right action and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What God desires is in your heart and on your mind... And what you decide to do every day, makes you - not your race - a good man - or not.
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Brutus Utama
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
3
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Posted - 2015.02.19 13:45:01 -
[104] - Quote
anyone tried scanning what they scan using a ship scanner?
Or try escalating with a Titan..... i saw a post somewhere from CCP about escalating against them.... |
Soldarius
Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent
1105
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Posted - 2015.02.19 14:58:24 -
[105] - Quote
I can personally attest that on sisi as of a couple days ago bringing a dead will not cause anythign odd to happen. However, once I knocked out the initial 2 drifters, 3 more warped in and engaged me. By that point I was out of cap due to repping the dd damage and had to warp out. They did not try to stop me, nor did I see them follow. However, I did not stick around on the gate.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Yuri Pyrrhus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.02.19 16:03:00 -
[106] - Quote
I wonder why are drifter battleships so resemble in appearance to mordu's legion ships? Especially to Orthrus. The same antennas and the same forms of hull. Is it some hint from CCP or just lack of concept artist's imagination? |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
6033
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Posted - 2015.02.19 17:39:31 -
[107] - Quote
Yuri Pyrrhus wrote:I wonder why are drifter battleships so resemble in appearance to mordu's legion ships? Especially to Orthrus. The same antennas and the same forms of hull. Is it some hint from CCP or just lack of concept artist's imagination? Well, Mordu's Legion is at home in Pure Blind, together with the Sisters of Eve, to which the violent wormholes in Thera seem to lead, according to background analysis. So there may be a real connection.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Stig Elendil
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.02.19 18:39:03 -
[108] - Quote
Sansh Leko wrote:Next time when you guys find Unidentified Wormhole can you make a close up screenshot.
i took those pics if it can help.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/c4yyrdH.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/WAG5ZLN.png[/img] |
thorgil
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
21
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Posted - 2015.02.19 18:40:21 -
[109] - Quote
i really want to try 2 things :
- bring a gnosis - Bring the ghost sites implants. |
Sansh Leko
The Scope Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2015.02.19 20:22:12 -
[110] - Quote
Yea, they all probably have the same background.
Took this one today, the same again.
WH
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Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
95
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Posted - 2015.02.20 01:18:43 -
[111] - Quote
I was on sisi the other day before the patch and people were talking about the Drifters not DD'ing ships that were sieged/bastion. Has this been confirmed on TQ? Or did CCP fix their behavior to correctly deal with ewar immune ships?
Could you possibly tracking disrupt them and speed tank with something fast/close? |
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
4985
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Posted - 2015.02.20 06:27:34 -
[112] - Quote
Dangeresque Too wrote:I was on sisi the other day before the patch and people were talking about the Drifters not DD'ing ships that were sieged/bastion. Has this been confirmed on TQ? Or did CCP fix their behavior to correctly deal with ewar immune ships?
Could you possibly tracking disrupt them and speed tank with something fast/close? No. Bastion ships are not immune, and Drifter behaviour hasn't changed since, as far as I'm aware.
Yes you can tracking disrupt them. Yes it does have a noticeable effect in some circumstances.
Yes you can speed tank both of them -I killed a few in a Burst.
You get doomsdayed if you are in range, always. |
Yuri Pyrrhus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.02.20 12:52:45 -
[113] - Quote
Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: Yes you can speed tank both of them -I killed a few in a Burst.
I thought no one flies a Burst=) |
Bobb Bobbington
Scourge Academy The Bloc
15
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Posted - 2015.02.20 13:04:22 -
[114] - Quote
What if they're searching for their lost super weapon?
So the first time wormholes appeared was in that one incident where that star blew up and pretty much toasted the whole system. If we assume, though possibly wrongfully, that such an event was caused by a super weapon working on a similar basis of that incident, what if the ship carrying the super weapon was accidentally sucked into one of the wormholes are lost.
Then here comes the Jove. They're having the worst panic attack ever because the super weapon just happened to land in capsular space. What do they do? They start pulling out all of the stops. They make drones to mindlessly scan everything in site trying to find it. They build huge listening towers to scan entire systems. They have the drifters patrol the unidentified wormholes artificially created by the exploding star! |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
526
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Posted - 2015.02.20 13:35:14 -
[115] - Quote
Bobb Bobbington wrote:What if they're searching for their lost super weapon?
So the first time wormholes appeared was in that one incident where that star blew up and pretty much toasted the whole system. If we assume, though possibly wrongfully, that such an event was caused by a super weapon working on a similar basis of that incident, what if the ship carrying the super weapon was accidentally sucked into one of the wormholes are lost.
Then here comes the Jove. They're having the worst panic attack ever because the super weapon just happened to land in capsular space. What do they do? They start pulling out all of the stops. They make drones to mindlessly scan everything in site trying to find it. They build huge listening towers to scan entire systems. They have the drifters patrol the unidentified wormholes artificially created by the exploding star!
I think it's safe to assume that any advanced weaponry the Jove have today should be far more powerful than any Terran weapon known or discovered. And the reason for this is simple : the Jove, unlike the Empires, have never undergone the space-dark-ages and never had to re-invent space-flight for example. While the Empires had to work their way back into being space-faring civilizations, the Jove we're having their First Empire and such and were busy deciding how many more arms they should grow. This being said, they had continued access to Terran tech and it stands to reason that not only they can use it without any problems, but most surely they have also improved on it by now. Although they have suffered the fall of the First and Second Empire they would not have lost much in the ways of technology - these different collapses were more organizational than technological (even in Terran history most Empires grew and developed on the technologies of the previous ones, bringing their own improvements, technological evolution so to say).
It is my sincere belief that there is no "magic Terran gun" that the Jove fear (excluding the fact that fear is probably an emotion they have long since curbed) - but if the Jove would indeed search for the "magic Terran gun" they would do so in order to prevent the "wayward children" from blasting themselves to kingdom-come and eventually getting into their heads the idea that now they have "the big shtick" and they can take on even the Jove (we know very well how that ended for the last Empire that picked a fight with them).
" And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit -
I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! "
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Bobb Bobbington
Scourge Academy The Bloc
15
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:47:38 -
[116] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote:What if they're searching for their lost super weapon?
So the first time wormholes appeared was in that one incident where that star blew up and pretty much toasted the whole system. If we assume, though possibly wrongfully, that such an event was caused by a super weapon working on a similar basis of that incident, what if the ship carrying the super weapon was accidentally sucked into one of the wormholes are lost.
Then here comes the Jove. They're having the worst panic attack ever because the super weapon just happened to land in capsular space. What do they do? They start pulling out all of the stops. They make drones to mindlessly scan everything in site trying to find it. They build huge listening towers to scan entire systems. They have the drifters patrol the unidentified wormholes artificially created by the exploding star! I think it's safe to assume that any advanced weaponry the Jove have today should be far more powerful than any Terran weapon known or discovered. And the reason for this is simple : the Jove, unlike the Empires, have never undergone the space-dark-ages and never had to re-invent space-flight for example. While the Empires had to work their way back into being space-faring civilizations, the Jove we're having their First Empire and such and were busy deciding how many more arms they should grow. This being said, they had continued access to Terran tech and it stands to reason that not only they can use it without any problems, but most surely they have also improved on it by now. Although they have suffered the fall of the First and Second Empire they would not have lost much in the ways of technology - these different collapses were more organizational than technological (even in Terran history most Empires grew and developed on the technologies of the previous ones, bringing their own improvements, technological evolution so to say). It is my sincere belief that there is no "magic Terran gun" that the Jove fear (excluding the fact that fear is probably an emotion they have long since curbed) - but if the Jove would indeed search for the "magic Terran gun" they would do so in order to prevent the "wayward children" from blasting themselves to kingdom-come and eventually getting into their heads the idea that now they have "the big shtick" and they can take on even the Jove (we know very well how that ended for the last Empire that picked a fight with them).
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon |
Ravasta Helugo
Republic University Minmatar Republic
299
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:23:01 -
[117] - Quote
Bobb Bobbington wrote:
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon
I think you may be on to something.
These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately. |
Commissar Kate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
393695
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:31:48 -
[118] - Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prykUrUhDiQ new Scope video.
Just further strengthens my belief that the SoE up to no good. They have a hand it this somehow.
Unlock all the clothes || My Fanclub
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1411
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Posted - 2015.02.22 18:14:23 -
[119] - Quote
Something to ponder over & get your brain in gear: How do the drifters fit in all of this?
-First: Drifters look like the Jove, (albeit cybernetically enhanced), so they got a clear & visible link to the Jove, despite how different they are tech-wise
-Second: Blowing up a drifter yields salvage (and loot too now it seems) that you also find in Sleeper wrecks, so they got a connection with them to.
-Third: the Drifter symbol, the triple integral is not just a symbol, it's the symbol to write a triple integral, used in hyper-euclidian mathematics, something the Talocan race mastered, so they've got a link with them too.
-Fourth: Hierachy structure shares similarities with Nation. Drifters show up in 2 forms (Artemis Tyrannos & Appollo Tyrannos) lead by a third higher ranking Drifter: Strategos Tyrannos. Nation shows a similar structure, with True Slaves & Citizens executing the tasks of their leader, Sansha Kuvakei. they both love enhancing their loyal subjects cybernetically. However, as we know little of Sleepers & Talocans, this connection is much less direct then the previous 3.
So now we have to find out how the Drifters fit in all of this! Also, re-investigating some sleeper/talocan sites would be a good way to find clues that didn't make much sense prior to the drifters appearing.
The Elysion Concerts
The Jove have returned and they have such sights to show us....
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2015.02.23 08:53:21 -
[120] - Quote
Jandice Ymladris wrote:Something to ponder...
-Third: the Drifter symbol, the triple integral is not just a symbol, it's the symbol to write a triple integral, used in hyper-euclidian mathematics, something the Talocan race mastered, so they've got a link with them too.
-Fourth: Hierachy structure shares similarities with Nation. Drifters show up in 2 forms (Artemis Tyrannos & Appollo Tyrannos) lead by a third higher ranking Drifter: Strategos Tyrannos. Nation shows a similar structure, with True Slaves & Citizens executing the tasks of their leader, Sansha Kuvakei. they both love enhancing their loyal subjects cybernetically. However, as we know little of Sleepers & Talocans, this connection is much less direct then the previous 3.
So now we have to find out how the Drifters fit in all of this! Also, re-investigating some sleeper/talocan sites would be a good way to find clues that didn't make much sense prior to the drifters appearing.
This, number 3, could indeed mean something. Google integral and something like this comes up: "(the same volume can be obtained via the triple integralGÇöthe integral of a function in three variablesGÇöof the constant function f(x, y, z) = 1 over the above-mentioned region between the surface and the plane.) If there are more variables, a multiple integral will yield hypervolumes of multi-dimensional functions.'
Take note of the part, "constant function f(x, y, z) = 1". Those are like also coordinates. Coordinates for what. We have 3 different Drifter Tyrannos classes as well and a number of other in game clues to that utilize coordinates. New Sleeper sites use a coordinate system to get to the back security area, etc.
Finally, the Drifter logo isn't just the integral sign, it has a filled in oval behind it. Symbolic of perhaps Caroline's Star's nebula? A planet or star? What is the significance of that globe in relation to the integral symbol. Note the integral symbol is also placed over the globe, which may mean something too, though I may be reading into this way to far. Its also as we know very different from the other Jovian logos we've seen which are blocky.
Does this stir anything up guys? Do any of the Eve Fiction experts notice anything with that? |
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DTson Gauur
Underground-Operators Illuminantur Dominium Sicarioum
60
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Posted - 2015.02.23 09:11:38 -
[121] - Quote
Ravasta Helugo wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote:
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon
I think you may be on to something. These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately.
You guys seem to forget something pretty important:
We already KNOW there's a super weapon on the loose, the one the Amarr Empress acquired by some rather shady means from "the drones". Now, where is that piece of tech hmm? It hasn't been seen since the one and only time it was used.
Makes one think just from WHO it actually came from...
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
527
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Posted - 2015.02.23 09:29:57 -
[122] - Quote
DTson Gauur wrote:Ravasta Helugo wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote:
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon
I think you may be on to something. These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately. You guys seem to forget something pretty important: We already KNOW there's a super weapon on the loose, the one the Amarr Empress acquired by some rather shady means from "the drones". Now, where is that piece of tech hmm? It hasn't been seen since the one and only time it was used. Makes one think just from WHO it actually came from...
It got destroyed by the Elder Fleet. #history
" And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit -
I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! "
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2015.02.23 11:33:29 -
[123] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote: It got destroyed by the Elder Fleet. #history
Um. I think you got that wrong.. The Mekhios Graveyard proves otherwise. |
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2015.02.23 11:39:51 -
[124] - Quote
It was her majestyGÇÖs divine mercy that those heathens didn't have time to dwell on their death, but rather were extinguished like a thieving rodent in a snap trap. For the glory of the empire! |
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17200
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Posted - 2015.02.23 13:24:00 -
[125] - Quote
DTson Gauur wrote:Ravasta Helugo wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote:
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon
I think you may be on to something. These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately. You guys seem to forget something pretty important: We already KNOW there's a super weapon on the loose, the one the Amarr Empress acquired by some rather shady means from "the drones". Now, where is that piece of tech hmm? It hasn't been seen since the one and only time it was used. Makes one think just from WHO it actually came from... That weapon was actually destroyed in the "end of the World" chronicles- a good read and it came from a Terran outpost that was found near the EVE gate- it had been cloaked.
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Soldarius
Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent
1123
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Posted - 2015.02.23 14:47:28 -
[126] - Quote
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:That weapon was actually destroyed in the "end of the World" chronicles- a good read and it came from a Terran outpost that was found near the EVE gate- it had been cloaked.
Terran outpost that was cloaked. Is it just me or does this bear a striking resemblance to current events?
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
527
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:33:13 -
[127] - Quote
Elyia Suze Nagala wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote: It got destroyed by the Elder Fleet. #history Um. I think you got that wrong.. The Mekhios Graveyard proves otherwise.
Them chronicles - read them (as Uriel pointed out)
" And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit -
I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! "
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:50:36 -
[128] - Quote
Quote:Given the current evidence available there appears to be strong historical and sociological connections between the Jovian and Sleeper societies. The attempts to find a cure for the lethal Jovian Disease forced a separation of the two groups, where the Sleepers used their expertise in virtual worlds to prolong the grave state of depression caused by the disease. To find a permanent cure, the Sleepers went on a quest to reconstruct their corrupted DNA; the cause of the disease. For this they needed unmodified DNA from other ethnic groups which eventually lead to the eradication of the Yan Jung Nation. Unsuccessful in solving the DNA mystery with specimens from New Eden alone, the Sleepers constructed huge Motherships and star gates to take them far beyond New Eden into w-space. There they continued their DNA research on the Talocans, a race untainted by the massive radiation emitted by the collapse of the EVE Gate. Seemingly, this research was either unfruitful or is still ongoing thereby making the final fate of the Sleepers unknown.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Sleeper_-_Jovian_Connection
The Jove have a disease that they are not able to cure. Unlike the Capsuleer who can live forever because of Clone Technology the Jove are still not able to defeat the disease. Even if the Jove use Clone Technology the virus which is encoded within their body somehow finds its way into the new clone. All Jovian's eventually die from the disease that causes a psychological breakdown to occur.
To this end alone is probably the reason why the Jovian's have band jacked theirselves into their own space and will not interact with New Eden. The utter madness that comes as a result of the Jovian Breakdown would set the societies of New Eden on fire as once loyal Jovian friends and allies suddenly turn on their closest friends destroying them to no matter. Every once in a while though a Jovian or group of Jovian's having become fanatically obsessed with finding a cure will travel into New Eden secretly looking for anything that will help them cure. In this pursuit they are unrelenting and uncaring and will stop at nothing to find the cure. Some in their final years amass such a fanatical personality that the aggression actually changes the physical appearance of the Jovian into a manifestation of what can only be said to be the actual virus itself.
With the Jovian's possessing technology that far exceeds that of New Eden their ventures into our territory can only mean one thing. They are here to gather up our young women to take them back to Jove so that the next generation of Jovian's can be born free of the Jovian disease.
The Jovian's would most likely be looking for specific females with specific DNA traits. Traits that have not been recognized yet but would tend to be on the side with having naturally strong immune systems. Once these females are found the Jovian's will stop at nothing to harvest them all to the very last one.
Capsuleers would not ne affected most likely because of our cloning technology but rather the citizens of New Eden living on planets who do not enjoy long life would be the targets because their bodies are free and clean of technological improvements that the Jove would need to re-build their society with.
The Jove can be easily be found in modern society even through their use of cloaking technology. They are the ones who constantly complain about someone doing something else that gives the person a sense of life over them. A sense of life they cannot enjoy because of the hate surrounding their never ending need to find a cure for disease that consumes their entire life. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:52:37 -
[129] - Quote
DTson Gauur wrote:Ravasta Helugo wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote:
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon
I think you may be on to something. These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately. You guys seem to forget something pretty important: We already KNOW there's a super weapon on the loose, the one the Amarr Empress acquired by some rather shady means from "the drones". Now, where is that piece of tech hmm? It hasn't been seen since the one and only time it was used. Makes one think just from WHO it actually came from...
The Amarr would be rather foolish to use it because when they do every single faction, Capsuleer and Pirate alike will home in on its location thus bringing the end of the Amarr Empire. |
Solairen
Matsuko Holding
200
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Posted - 2015.02.26 18:36:57 -
[130] - Quote
Hilen posted another transmission, maybe we'll get some more info soon. |
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17389
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Posted - 2015.03.04 15:32:50 -
[131] - Quote
I'm starting to believe that the Drifters are the "Others" that appeared after the original Other and needed Jovian biomass to create bodies to leave the construct.
Now the question is- what are the others? Grious said that they "appeared", but not even the Jove know everything.
Seeing the very similar names between the Drifters (Tyrannos) and the Tyrants of the second Jove empire, I have a new idea that could mean something big: the Others could be the Tyrants themselves, having hidden their minds in the Sleeper construct as the empire collapsed. Additionally- and this is the most tinfoil-y part- what if the Other in Jamyl's head is Miko Bour himself, the first of the Tyrants and the leader of them in the second empire?
All tinfoil, of course, but it's plausible and would make the appearance of the Others have context.
Also, I believe the Seekers and Drifters are using the Entosis module or something similar, which makes the theory on the "Repair Man" chronicle all the more relevant
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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VTyx Soul
MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels
45
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Posted - 2015.03.04 22:13:32 -
[132] - Quote
So the latest informations lists the structures as Jove observatories. But what are the structures observing |
Asura Vajrarupa
Sanguis Inceptum
33
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Posted - 2015.03.05 01:53:02 -
[133] - Quote
VTyx Soul wrote:So the latest informations lists the structures as Jove observatories. But what are the structures observing
You.
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Bobb Bobbington
Perkone Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2015.03.05 21:08:56 -
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So I'm sure this isn't new at all, or anything, but weren't we talking about some Site One thing transmitted from Hilen Tukoss? Noone mentioned the one here.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=409064&find=unread
Someone in the comments connected that one of the stings of numbers was also like the ID to a station in Eram, which as I was passing through noticed had a site called Arek'Jaalan Site One: Antiquus. It's probably been there a while since people were there but maybe it's worth mentioning. Maybe it's possible for us, the capsuleers, to find Hilen? In the site there was a gate under construction.... |
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2015.03.06 11:03:08 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:DTson Gauur wrote:Ravasta Helugo wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote:
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon
I think you may be on to something. These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately. You guys seem to forget something pretty important: We already KNOW there's a super weapon on the loose, the one the Amarr Empress acquired by some rather shady means from "the drones". Now, where is that piece of tech hmm? It hasn't been seen since the one and only time it was used. Makes one think just from WHO it actually came from... That weapon was actually destroyed in the "end of the World" chronicles- a good read and it came from a Terran outpost that was found near the EVE gate- it had been cloaked.
Is this Cannon or 3rd Party fiction? I'm assuming its cannon since you're referencing it. I just bought Eve Sources and Templar One, have to starting reading when it gets here. |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
583
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Posted - 2015.03.06 11:23:48 -
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Elyia Suze Nagala wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:DTson Gauur wrote:Ravasta Helugo wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote:
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon
I think you may be on to something. These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately. You guys seem to forget something pretty important: We already KNOW there's a super weapon on the loose, the one the Amarr Empress acquired by some rather shady means from "the drones". Now, where is that piece of tech hmm? It hasn't been seen since the one and only time it was used. Makes one think just from WHO it actually came from... That weapon was actually destroyed in the "end of the World" chronicles- a good read and it came from a Terran outpost that was found near the EVE gate- it had been cloaked. Is this Cannon or 3rd Party fiction? I'm assuming its cannon since you're referencing it. I just bought Eve Sources and Templar One, have to starting reading when it gets here.
Canon
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17404
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Posted - 2015.03.07 02:02:34 -
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Elyia Suze Nagala wrote: Is this Cannon or 3rd Party fiction? I'm assuming its cannon since you're referencing it. I just bought Eve Sources and Templar One, have to starting reading when it gets here.
Totally canon- and you'll be finding the superweapon's origin in Empyrean age; the End of the World chronicles are on the community website
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1058
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Posted - 2015.03.07 02:38:03 -
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Elyia Suze Nagala wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:DTson Gauur wrote:Ravasta Helugo wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote:
No I mean what if, in the explosion, whatever caused the star to explode was sucked into one of the wormholes generated by the explosion, sending it into Capsuleer space and giving the Jove a heart attack because they lost their most powerful weapon
I think you may be on to something. These guys are definitely looking for something. Desperately. You guys seem to forget something pretty important: We already KNOW there's a super weapon on the loose, the one the Amarr Empress acquired by some rather shady means from "the drones". Now, where is that piece of tech hmm? It hasn't been seen since the one and only time it was used. Makes one think just from WHO it actually came from... That weapon was actually destroyed in the "end of the World" chronicles- a good read and it came from a Terran outpost that was found near the EVE gate- it had been cloaked. Is this Cannon or 3rd Party fiction? I'm assuming its cannon since you're referencing it. I just bought Eve Sources and Templar One, have to starting reading when it gets here.
There are very few people who are considered experts on the cannon. Uriel is one of them. You can take what he says lore-wise to the bank (and when it comes to speculation, he ain't too shabby either)
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17709
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Posted - 2015.03.11 01:54:23 -
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On sisi the Lux Kontos have an icon and description now- nothing too new, but it's something!
Also, there's a "Jove Corpse" and "Drifter Battleship Wreck" - and there are a number of separate entities of the Jove Observatory falling apart if you haven't seen it yet!
Look here
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A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2015.03.11 11:45:08 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:On sisi the Lux Kontos have an icon and description now- nothing too new, but it's something! Also, there's a "Jove Corpse" and "Drifter Battleship Wreck" - and there are a number of separate entities of the Jove Observatory falling apart if you haven't seen it yet! Look here
That's an interesting twist. Why would they make these things fall apart. Its not like they are Minmatar rust buckets.. |
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
9348
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Posted - 2015.03.11 12:46:53 -
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Elyia Suze Nagala wrote:That's an interesting twist. Why would they make these things fall apart. Its not like they are Minmatar rust buckets.. Just sayin' |
Bobb Bobbington
Where No Wormholes Have Gone Before
16
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Posted - 2015.03.11 21:29:40 -
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Hm... I was watching wormhole videos in my spare time (researching for living in one for my first time) and saw a video about Sansha in a few of the shattered wormholes. So I thought, yea, interesting, but nothing work having a fit over.
During the video though he opened a show info on a LCO Sansha Logistical Control Array from the epicenter site in a shattered wormhole. It read "This array is responsible for determining friend or foe status for local remote logistics facilities. Although formidable, a capsuleer should be able to subvert the sophisticated electronics within".
Can we enter the so called "violent wormholes" (if I remember right from the only time I was in one) by hacking those structures to make it think we're Sansha? Have we really missed such an obvious clue?
Link for the video video He opens the show info at 1:03 |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6419
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Posted - 2015.03.11 22:27:31 -
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Bobb Bobbington wrote: Hm... I was watching wormhole videos in my spare time (researching for living in one for my first time) and saw a video about Sansha in a few of the shattered wormholes. So I thought, yea, interesting, but nothing work having a fit over. During the video though he opened a show info on a LCO Sansha Logistical Control Array from the epicenter site in a shattered wormhole. It read " This array is responsible for determining friend or foe status for local remote logistics facilities. Although formidable, a capsuleer should be able to subvert the sophisticated electronics within". Can we enter the so called "violent wormholes" (if I remember right from the only time I was in one) by hacking those structures to make it think we're Sansha? Have we really missed such an obvious clue? Link for the video videoHe opens the show info at 1:03
Well it's a shame everybody reprocessed those purloined hacking modules so they can have a head in a jar....
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1107
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Posted - 2015.03.11 23:57:56 -
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Great. Now I have a reason to take an Echelon into a well known and sought out wormhole if I manage to find it
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Allant Doran
Patriot Security Services New Signature
81
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Posted - 2015.03.12 00:49:50 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Bobb Bobbington wrote: Hm... I was watching wormhole videos in my spare time (researching for living in one for my first time) and saw a video about Sansha in a few of the shattered wormholes. So I thought, yea, interesting, but nothing work having a fit over. During the video though he opened a show info on a LCO Sansha Logistical Control Array from the epicenter site in a shattered wormhole. It read " This array is responsible for determining friend or foe status for local remote logistics facilities. Although formidable, a capsuleer should be able to subvert the sophisticated electronics within". Can we enter the so called "violent wormholes" (if I remember right from the only time I was in one) by hacking those structures to make it think we're Sansha? Have we really missed such an obvious clue? Link for the video videoHe opens the show info at 1:03 Well it's a shame everybody reprocessed those purloined hacking modules so they can have a head in a jar....
I still have both of mine if I recall. Just sitting in Amarr, doing nothing. If they have a use then I'll have to dig them out.
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Lister Vindaloo
5 Tons of Flax
41
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:41:16 -
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I seem to remember CCP saying there was something we had missed in the new wormholes, something to do with a structure within certain ones, this sounds like it could be it, guess we've just gotta clear one and hack the structure?
Has anyone out there tried yet? |
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
9460
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:58:40 -
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Lister Vindaloo wrote:I seem to remember CCP saying If you can source it, that'd be great. |
Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1110
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Posted - 2015.03.12 13:48:36 -
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I think he's referring to Fozzie's tweet about there being big and small secrets in the shattered wormholes. No mention of structures specifically there though.
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Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
453
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:00:27 -
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When you guys have this all figured out, could you put it all in a blog or chronicle or something, because I sure as hell am lost.
I am a pod pilot:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
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Bobb Bobbington
Where No Wormholes Have Gone Before
16
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:20:52 -
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Desert Ice78 wrote:When you guys have this all figured out, could you put it all in a blog or chronicle or something, because I sure as hell am lost.
But the fun of it is being able to taunt everyone else by saying you were smarter than them and figured it out first!
Oh and btw, if ANYONE FINDS A SHATTERED WORMHOLE CHECK IT FOR SANSHA. I think there may only be 2 sansha infested wormholes from what I've researched, so it'll will be nigh impossible for any one person to find one. We can't just have like 3 dedicated people looking for that one wormhole, we need like 50 people who often visit wormholes to just see what type it is if they stumble across a shattered.
If you do happen to find it, tell us! Those are incursion rats, for all we know we'll need a 40 man fleet as more warp in while we defend the hacker or hackers. |
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17762
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:17:08 -
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So we just got a glimpse of Jovians again in today's devblog on the art book by changing the address of the images!
Take a look!
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67006/1/13.jpg
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17805
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Posted - 2015.03.14 22:51:14 -
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A quick little summary of what seems to be likely so far (copied from a chat of mine ):
Quote:- Drifters are 'Others'
- Jove Observatories are Enheduanni Listening posts
- Drifters + Circadians destroy listening posts (Scylla)
- Others "come into existence" within the Sleeper Construct spontaneously
- The Tyrants (second empire leaders) have a very close link in name with the Tyrannos
- The Tyrants drop off the map at the same time the Sleepers leave New Eden, at the end of the Second Empire
- Theory: the Tyrants hid their consciousnesses within the VR construst
- Coming back online, they have no bodies and "appear"
- The first "Other" may be the leader of all of them: it wanted to use sleeper implants to bring its army to new eden originally (Templar One)
- Well guess what it may have done now that that failed? Something posed as Tukoss to collect biomass of Jove origin, and from his transmission it seems they have constructed bodies
- Now, what seem to be cyborg Jovians are roaming and, from what we see on sisi, may be destroying the Enheduanni listening posts
- The army of the Other may be here now
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Bobb Bobbington
Where No Wormholes Have Gone Before
16
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:19:03 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:A quick little summary of what seems to be likely so far (copied from a chat of mine ): Quote:- Drifters are 'Others'
- Jove Observatories are Enheduanni Listening posts
- Drifters + Circadians destroy listening posts (Scylla)
- Others "come into existence" within the Sleeper Construct spontaneously
- The Tyrants (second empire leaders) have a very close link in name with the Tyrannos
- The Tyrants drop off the map at the same time the Sleepers leave New Eden, at the end of the Second Empire
- Theory: the Tyrants hid their consciousnesses within the VR construst
- Coming back online, they have no bodies and "appear"
- The first "Other" may be the leader of all of them: it wanted to use sleeper implants to bring its army to new eden originally (Templar One)
- Well guess what it may have done now that that failed? Something posed as Tukoss to collect biomass of Jove origin, and from his transmission it seems they have constructed bodies
- Now, what seem to be cyborg Jovians are roaming and, from what we see on sisi, may be destroying the Enheduanni listening posts
- The army of the Other may be here now
Don't forget, we know we can probably hack that LCO Sansha Logistical Control Array. It's one of the few things we can actually act on. We just have to find one... Do you think posting in the wornholes forum for wanting to find them would help? I wouldn't be able to give a reward, spent half my liquid isk moving into wormhole space, and without an incentive I doubt anyone would look around for them... |
Feu dAstres
Nox Draconum Holding Corp Nox Draconum
9
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Posted - 2015.03.15 21:47:23 -
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We already attempted accessing a lot of things at the epicenter using an echelon equipped with the Purloined Sansha Data Analyzer. No results.
However, conditions may have changed and you might get different results after any update.
Try J005299 and J004998 (via Thera, maybe) |
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
88
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Posted - 2015.03.22 22:04:52 -
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myth says that hackable variant yields some sansha generator thing that allow remotely open/close wormholes |
Stig Elendil
Lords of Fail
0
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Posted - 2015.05.19 15:00:49 -
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Might be a stupid question but Talocans "created" or generaly are/were mastering gates and we know Sanshas use some same kind of way to move in incursions (i might be totaly wrong, if so please enlight me on it), could it be not directly connected to the Drifters but to the next technology given to Capsuleers, if it's not just a dream or fantasy, as to know : Gate technology. Could it be a link or technology (just an hint on the way for it) to be able to build Gates ?
What about the last video from Hilen Tukoss talking about that "Giant Structure"... from images it sounds like a gigantic Gate ready for hundreds of Drifter's ships. Still no news about him ? |
DaReaper
Net 7
2066
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Posted - 2015.05.19 19:28:27 -
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What if... (note i did not read this all so if someone already said this, my bad.) (got this idea while listening to hydrostatic lore pannel) *tin foil on*
Carolines Star was an event which destoryed the power that was relaying to the observatories. So whatever was powering the cloak was disrupted and they began to fail. I would go with a preliminary attack by the drifters.
Now the jove are not dead, and they detected the drifter threat. They then closed there star gate network down to stop the drifters form invading.
The Observatories began to show up, and they are all linked.
The seekrs and the drifters began using the entoisis link to try and send there brains into jove space via this network in attempt to infiltrate and attack,
This has either now failed and the drifters just decided to disable the network of the observatories, pretty much cutting off the jove form the rest of new eden.
just spit balling cause i'm bored lol
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