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James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:29:00 - [1] After several discussions with corpmates, we've reached a conclusion. Tier 2 battleships may be better all rounders, but it's the Tier 1 battleships that have 'character'. And so, we started to mull over what we'd do if we could design 'faction variants' of the standard Tier 1s. Dominix, Scorpion, Typhoon and Armageddon. Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to come up with a ship design that a) fits an appropriate theme. (Navy is fairly easy, but 'pirate faction' is a little harder as a rule) b) Follows the 'model' outlined by existing faction ships - e.g. better, but not 'utterly sickeningly overpowered'. As a general rule, they have additional hps, in shield, armour and structure. Some have additional slots (e.g. Fleet Tempest has +1mid), some have additional hardpoints (e.g. CN raven gets 7 launchers). Pirate faction are just ... interesting. So speaking as one who would love to own a CN Scorpion, and _would_ fly it in PvP, what would you like to see if you could design a 'Faction Tier 1'
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:38:00 - [2] FN Dominix: Increases to hitpoints, cap and grid/cpu proportionaly equivalent to the increase the FN Mega has over the standard version. +1 mid. Replace the hybrid damage bonus with a 5% drone tracking bonus. Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort
Shardrael Caldari AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:47:00 - [3] Edited by: Shardrael on 05/10/2006 11:48:22 probably a navy scorp would be same as a navy caracal caldari dont seem to be too original when it comes to navy faction(not that anyone neccesarily is) put more launchers on it, maybe an extra slot in the lows? and higher base armor/structure/shield stats, ohh and give it a better paintjob honestly if they are gonna add more faction ships to the game I would much rather them be more unique then they are now, pirate ships are nice but the navy ones are kind of bleh, some of em are damn useful like fleet pest, navy mega, navy raven, but they are a little boring for me to want to spend all that isk on one, I want flavor!! like the rattlesnake or the bhaalgorn or the nightmare, granted the vindy and the machariel are neat too but they are still kinda close to their originals(not that that makes them bad or anything) if I was gonna see a pirate scorpion(negating the fact that the rattler is one, even though it should be a raven with layout) I would wanna see something set to disable enemy ships fully, ecm strength bonuses, warp jammer range bonuses, and somekind of missle bonus, only because guristas seem to like that, over powered yes but flavorful? hell yeah! edit: but lets not forget the pirate faction mining barges, required mining barge 5 and assault cruiser to 5, with pirate strip miners that convert enemy hull into minerals in record time omg carebears from hell!! and sry for the spelling and grammar i r no good at teh english
Miklas Laces A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:48:00 - [4] FN Domi: replace 5% large hybrid damage per level with 99% cpu and grid reduction for drone control units. Overpowered ?
Alex Tremayne Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 12:31:00 - [5] Originally by: Miklas Laces FN Domi: replace 5% large hybrid damage per level with 99% cpu and grid reduction for drone control units. Overpowered ? Yes. Lyrus Associates' Diplomat Of Last Resort
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 12:34:00 - [6] I'd go for CN Scorpion, as: 'more shield' about 9000 rather than the basic. An extra low slot. A little more grid. Or the 'Guristas Scorpion' (for irony, stick it on a Raven hull) Scorpion + 1 extra high slot, and about 2000 grid. Same 4/4 slot configuration, but 7 is a notable improvement on 6, making it a 7/8/4. Possibly a 'meta' bonus to nosferatu? That's a bit un-guristas though, so perhaps a RoF bonus on large hybrid.
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard	Posted - 2006.10.05 12:37:00 - [7] is the geddon the only faction ship out there? (Bloods) Oh, and the Rattlesnake. Any pirate faction use typhoon's or domi's?
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.05 12:41:00 - [8] Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes is the geddon the only faction ship out there? (Bloods) Oh, and the Rattlesnake. Any pirate faction use typhoon's or domi's? Geddon is the only faction tier 1, as the Bhaalgorn. Which is a nos/web ship IIRC. Technically the Rattlesnake is based on the Scorpion hull, but it's slots/fittings are much much closer to that of the Raven. (Basically stats wise, it's a raven with a bit more cpu, grid, shield and an extra low slot).
Twilight Moon Minmatar Malicious Intentions	Posted - 2006.10.05 12:49:00 - [9] Originally by: Miklas Laces FN Domi: replace 5% large hybrid damage per level with 99% cpu and grid reduction for drone control units. Overpowered ? It'd be nice to see a Domi without bloody NOS for once though. ---------------- ...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative. Anyone Recruiting? 8m SP PvP Character looking for a new home, for a life as a pirate. Contact Via EVE-Mail.
Lauriers	Posted - 2006.10.05 13:02:00 - [10] rogue drone Domi -add 1 extra low slot and 500 grid to allow fitting of a good tank and large guns -or allow 1 extra drone for gall BS 4 and 5 giving 7 total -or as above 99% reduction in CPU for drone links make it a funky colour

chillz Minmatar	Posted - 2006.10.05 14:30:00 - [11] Minmatar Fleet Typhoon Increase the Sheild/Armour/Hull in line with the increase the Flett Tempest gets over the normal one. +1000 grid +1 Mid slot ----------------------------------- A gun and a packet of sandwiches. "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S Thompson
Zhaine B e l l u m	Posted - 2006.10.05 15:17:00 - [12] Originally by: James Lyrus Edited by: James Lyrus on 05/10/2006 12:47:23 Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes is the geddon the only faction ship out there? (Bloods) Oh, and the Rattlesnake. Any pirate faction use typhoon's or domi's? Geddon is the only faction tier 1, as the Bhaalgorn. Which is a nos/web ship IIRC. Technically the Rattlesnake is based on the Scorpion hull. . . Bhaalgorn, despite looking like a pimped geddon, is also based of the Tier 2 stats (of the Apoc), though perhaps it differs more from the Apoc than the 'Snake does from the Raven. - - - - - - - - - - Quote: I don't even want a ship, ships are for carebears. Give me a fish bowl for my head (to keep space out) and smear me with lard, then armed with a toasting fork-
Baal Ammon	Posted - 2006.10.05 15:38:00 - [13] Pirate Faction Typhoon: Increased shield, armor and hull of course. +1 Launcher hardpoint Special Ability: 5% Bonus to Cruise and Seige Launcher rate of fire and 10% Bonus to Capacitor recharge per level
Jet Collins Dynamic Endeavors	Posted - 2006.10.05 16:55:00 - [14] I don't think thier should be pirate faction tier 1 BS's as it is don't most pirate factions have just one type of BS, Sasha and Angel I can only think of the one Skin, some others do have 2 but than CCp would have to come up with more skins . Now who wants that :P. Only other faction ship I care about would be the Republic Fleet Typhoon . Not set on this but right now thinking Extra Low slot and extra Launcher Slot. And much more armor little but of the others shild/hull. Yes Armor tanking Raven will Drones
Slash Harnet Minmatar Industrial Services INC	Posted - 2006.10.05 18:13:00 - [15] I'd love to see a blood raider 'phoon. Something like this. I call it the Narwhal.
Benco97 Gallente Fedo Appreciation Group	Posted - 2006.10.05 18:18:00 - [16] Originally by: Slash Harnet I'd love to see a blood raider 'phoon. Something like this. I call it the Narwhal. does that drill give it a mining bonus? Head of the Fedo Appreciation Group (FAG) and Registered Fedo breeder (Sig kindly supplied by Zurtur)
Jus Lookin	Posted - 2006.10.05 18:43:00 - [17] Originally by: James Lyrus After several discussions with corpmates, we've reached a conclusion. Tier 2 battleships may be better all rounders, but it's the Tier 1 battleships that have 'character'. And so, we started to mull over what we'd do if we could design 'faction variants' of the standard Tier 1s. Dominix, Scorpion, Typhoon and Armageddon. Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to come up with a ship design that a) fits an appropriate theme. (Navy is fairly easy, but 'pirate faction' is a little harder as a rule) b) Follows the 'model' outlined by existing faction ships - e.g. better, but not 'utterly sickeningly overpowered'. As a general rule, they have additional hps, in shield, armour and structure. Some have additional slots (e.g. Fleet Tempest has +1mid), some have additional hardpoints (e.g. CN raven gets 7 launchers). Pirate faction are just ... interesting. So speaking as one who would love to own a CN Scorpion, and _would_ fly it in PvP, what would you like to see if you could design a 'Faction Tier 1' Navy Dominix Desc: The Navy Dominix originally earned the media nickname "Silver Bullet" from the bright silver paint scheme, but it kept the nickname after proving its' worth in countless battles. When first designed, the Navy Dominix used the latest experimental laboratory improvements and integrated nanotechnology armor resists right into the original plating. The "Silver Bullet" was used in the fiercest fights to lead charges into the midst of enemy fleets, sustaining damage that would have destroyed a regular Battleship while still maintaining full offensive capabilities. Though only produced in limited amounts, the sight of these Battleships makes even the staunchest of foes cringe at the thought of provoking a fight. Special Abiity: 5% Bonus to all armor resistances per level and 10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage per skill level. Structure: 7969 EM: 0 Ex: 0 Kin: 0 Therm: 0 Capacity: 600m3 Drone Capacity: 375m3 Mass: 112,500,000 kg Volume: 957,000 m (50,000m packaged) Armor: 7453 EM: 60 Ex: 10 Kin: 35 Therm: 35 Shield: 6562 Shield Recharge: 2000 Seconds EM: 0 Ex: 60 Kin: 40 Therm: 20 Capacitor: 4000 Cap Recharge: 870 seconds Max targeting range: 70km Max Locked Targets: 7 Scan Resolution: 90mm Magnetometric Sensor Strength: 26 points Signature Radius: 420m Max Velocity: 120m/sec CPU: 600 Powergrid: 9000 Low Slots: 8 Medium SLots: 5 High Slots: 6 Turret Hardpoints: 6
Slash Harnet Minmatar Industrial Services INC	Posted - 2006.10.05 18:54:00 - [18] Originally by: Benco97 Originally by: Slash Harnet I'd love to see a blood raider 'phoon. Something like this. I call it the Narwhal. does that drill give it a mining bonus? It should, not really sure why blood raiders would be mining though.
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.10.05 20:47:00 - [19] Guristas rokh: 20% more shields/armor/hp than standard rohk. 5% damage per gallente BS level 1 more lowslot 3% more pg/cpu. why not?
Yurii Chan	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:21:00 - [20] two words - Guardian Dominix +1 drones controlled per lvl anyone? and all sorts of drone bonuses sure as hell would beat a navy dominix! but what i really want is the Republic Fleet Typhoon - 7x 1400 IIs

Jacob Holland Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:32:00 - [21] I'm going to tweak the idea slightly, making the tier 1s part of the factions which don't at present have faction ships... Intaki Syndicate Dominix Req Skills: Gallente Battleship 3, Caldari Battleship 3. HP: Universally higher in keeping with existing Faction ships. Bonuses: Special; 25% bonus to Electronic Warfare Drone Effect. Gallente Battleship; 10% bonus to Drone Navigation Speed per level. Caldari Battleship; 20% bonus to Remote Sensor Damper optimal Range per level. Slot layout: 6/6/7 Reasoning: Intaki are big fans of EW, I simply liked the idea of taking this to the Dominix (which so many people complain is overpowered because of ECM multis). By adding an EW range bonus it encourages the ship out of Nos range and by boosting drone speed and EW drone effect it makes an interesting long range ship which could have annoying effects in a fleet engagement. Sledgehammer (Mordu's Legion Scorpion) Req Skills: Caldari Battleship 3, Gallente Battleship 3. HP: Switch armour and shield HP, otherwise in keeping with existing Faction ships. Bonuses: Special; 25% bonus to ECM Jammer strength. Caldari Battleship; 20% bonus to ECM Jammer Capacitor use per level. Gallente Battleship; 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret Tracking per level. Slot layout: 6/8/5 Reasoning: Blending a Caldari (normally optimal range of something) bonus with the apparent Mordu's preference for short range was difficult - but with eight mids, a cap bonus and just about enough lowslots (and HP) to tank armour it becomes devastating with ECM Bursts . A range boost rather than a strength bonus might be better, putting the range in the close Railgun range rather than very long Blaster range... needs some work. The Thukker Tribe Typhoon would be interesting but I'm somewhat stuck for ideas on it ATM. I would probably link the Minmatar skill with Amarr as the 'phoon is armour tanked, perhaps in the form of improved repair amount on armour reps akin to the Brutix. The only problem is that the equivalent faction for the Amarr is the Khanid Kingdom, in effect they already have a fair number of Faction ships, most of them complained about on a regular basis . Other possibilities include the Sister Servant's Dominix (Remote Armour Repair and Logistics drone bonuses, Gallente BS only).
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:49:00 - [22] the fleet/navy style ships are cool and all, but all we ever see from them is ramped up stats on the same platform as they are based off of. I would like to see more pirate altered vessels (especially tier I bs). Guristas, blood raiders, shadow serp etc... all have the ability to pervert the original platforms to their own twisted needs. Guristas phoon anyone? how about a blood raider scorp? yeah, crazy dual racial bonuses for the win
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.05 21:59:00 - [23] Am I the only one who likes the hybrid damage bonus on the Dominix? Jacob, dampeners aren't potent without efficiency bonus, especially not on a battleship level. Change the drone MWD bonus to dampener efficiency ;) I'd also make the EWar drone bonus a bonus to drone speed as well (drones tend to get dual bonuses). Oh, and btw WANTED: Amarr/Gallente ship. Possibly Sisters of EVE (combining Gallentean liberalism and diplomacy with Amarrian religous dedication) - Three years old
Jacob Holland Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:02:00 - [24] Edited by: Jacob Holland on 05/10/2006 22:03:53 That sounds fair enough. I used the drone bonus over the Hybrid bonus because a Faction would use the Megathron if they wanted a gunboat (as the Serpentis have). And I agree on the Amarr/Gal - but mostly because I want a gold Megathron :-)
Gonada Gallente Cross Roads	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:07:00 - [25] you cant change any of the tier 1 ships without affecting ALL ships, specially the faction ships like the mach ect . -I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
Jacob Holland Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:15:00 - [26] Huh? We're not talking about changing the Tier 1 BS but introducing new faction ships based on the Tier 1 stats. Doing so would not require changes to existing Faction ships, A Navy Raven isn't made obsolete by the existance of a Mordu's Scorpion.
Axitikus	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:45:00 - [27] Edited by: Axitikus on 06/10/2006 12:48:13 Thukker Tribe Monsoon Typhoon hull +1 missile hardpoint 25% bonus to cruise and siege launcher rate of fire +5% nanofiber hull effectiveness per Minmatar BS level +5% less capacitor penalty for MWD use per Gallente BS level /ducks oh and 2000 more base pg
Kojiami	Posted - 2006.10.06 13:03:00 - [28] Edited by: Kojiami on 06/10/2006 13:04:28
Kojiami	Posted - 2006.10.06 13:04:00 - [29] Edited by: Kojiami on 06/10/2006 13:05:46
Kojiami	Posted - 2006.10.06 13:06:00 - [30] Navy avatar II. Blueprint + stats Here God internet f*cked up, fixed.



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