Originally by: Black Scorpio

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Not everyone has a 500Mil + to blow on a single module.. have you ever flown a 1+Bil T2 ship with 1+ bil fitting not to mention implants, while doing PvP.. that's a rush ok.. cause once you lose it.. well you probably had a bottle of anti-depressants next to your desk

did you mention an I-Win button?

PS" try fitting 2 shield boosts and watch what happens to your cap... Armor reps x2? easily manageable..

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Originally by: keepiru

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Originally by: Black Scorpio

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PS" try fitting 2 shield boosts and watch what happens to your cap... Armor reps x2? easily manageable..

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Small gist A-types have the hp/sec of a medium with a cap draw low enough they can be run full-duty relatively easily on t1 *frigates*.

Lets compare, shall we?

Coreli A-Type Small AR: 23.1 hp/sec, 8.8 cap/sec, 7MW, 4tf

Medium Armor Repairer II: 35.5hp/sec, 17.7 cap/sec, 173MW, 28tf

Gistii A-Type Small SB: 28.5hp/sec, 5.85 cap/sec, 2MW, 21tf

Medium Shield Booster II: 30 hp/sec, 18 cap/sec, 13MW, 58tf

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See where thats going? T2 Armor reppers and shield boosters actually ahve virtually identical cap draw w. full skills. Your armor rep has better hp/sec, and is considerably harder to fit.

However, if you look at the best of the "cap-efficient" deadspace modules (gistii and coreli), not only does the shield booster have a much lower cap draw and much higher hp/sec, its also much easier to fit in both PG and tf, while the armor rep uses a whole 2tf less, and uses MORE MW.

And on top of that, the bloody thing doesent even drop. Ever.

I could live with the worse cap use and hp/sec and the fitting, because as everyone rightly points out mids are far more valuable than lows on frigs... if I only had the option of using the bloody modules =p

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But now lets examine the situation on HACs/Commands:

Take your typical Dual rep or Booster + Amp tank:

2x Medium Armor Repairer II: 71.1 hp/sec, 35.5 cap/sec, 346MW, 56tf

2x Corelum A-Type Medium AR: 92.4 hp/sec, 35.5 cap/sec, 390MW, 46tf

Large Shield Booster II + Amp: 78 hp/sec, 36 cap/sec, 166MW, 165tf

Gist A-Type Large SB + Amp: 99.5 hp/sec, 27.5 cap/sec, 151MW, 135tf

uuuhhhhhh... so, 2 reps which dont even drop give me less wose hp/sec, and much worse cap/sec than a shield booster with a TECH 1 AMP.. and on top of that theyre harder to fit wher it hurts (powergrid), while the shield booster uses like 35% less cpu AND less grid?

Okay, like whatever. Not a problem, armor tanking has other advantages (free mids again)... but thats all smoke and no roast if the bloody things dont even drop =p

I'll say it again:

I dont want gist stuff nerfed.

I just want an equal playing field for us nutters who like to fly with pimp setups worth many times what the hull is worth, and happen to be suckers who fly armor-tanked frigs and cruisers.

Yes, we like to pimp our ships. Yes, we're arguably nuts. But we still want our shineys so we can compete with shield-tanking missile ****s! =P

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