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Shariona
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.06 23:24:00 -
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Welcome to Fountain
Darth Solo is welcoming you in Fountain. One off the richest areas in Eve. Just like in wild the west Fountain is not no 100% safe. Risk which you run in Fountain does not even out the money which you can deserve here. Like already mentioned earlier on the forums by our hero Darth Solo, the area is rich of minerals, Serpentis pirates and there is even a small trade market.
Fountain is the only area which is not monitored 24/7 by any alliance. Officially it is bob space, but bob is not planning or able to protect the access to this rich area. Also other alliances who favour bob are not able to do this.
Fountain lie south west in eve and border to 3 other areas. At west Aridia region In the south Delve occupies by the Bob alliance And in the north In the middle of fountain are a number of npc stations. Centre of Fountain is the system YZ-LQL. There are 2 serpentis stations stations in Yz-LQL belonged initially to Serpentis organisation.
Serpentis in Fountain The reward of killing the Serpentis pirates are high and the loot is great. Here a couple tips:
- Watch the system. If the number increases suddenly go then rapidly to a safespot. - If a bob or a bob friendly alliance entered local warp to a safespot - Try to find out what damage the Serpentis do and equip your ship for it.
(The vile 'm' word) in Fountain Look at the Serpentis in Fountain section and kill those Bistot roids
Agent Some stations have Serpentis agents, working for them is possible.
Trading The market in Fountain is small, but the profits are large. Ships and munitions have a large consuming market.
Pos building Building a pos for what kind of a reason thus, can it be dangerous. Bob will not accept a large pos certainly. It is better to use the Serpentis stations or construction a small production pos
Just consider this: do you want to mine day after day in empire, falling asleep, and wait until you finally get that bship OR get in you your ship and find your luck and fortune in Fountain.
Goodluck,
Shariona Darths peronal secretary
Faq. So there are no rules in Fountain? Just like in wild the west there are some rules. Piracy is not tolerated. If someone is caught pirating then he and his corp/alliance will be denied access to Fountain.. This will mean that his alliance/concerned corporation will be hunted. By removing this person from the corp or by compensating for all damage to the victim the standings will be set back to 0.
So Celes is protecting me? No, Fountain is rich space so fightings between corperaties and persons will take place. The moment however innocent people become victim celes will take action and set standings.
This is too beautiful where is the catch? Nowhere. Celes are the white knights of Eve, and yes also we sometimes make mistakes, but we always try to solve them. What we want , especially for a small corp and beginners is there a possibility to make much money in eve, differently than to be swallowed into alliances.
Yes okay that understands I but why you do this. Celes are 100% fighters corp and although we have some supplies , we are to bussy fighting against the dark side. For replacements we have to go to empire. If there more people in Fountain the market would flourish and everyone could make a profit. This means for us less logistics and more pvp time.
O i understand you want a discount?? No, the intention is a competitive market. Stuff we need we buy directly of this market. However, it is of course possible to sell items directly to us or everyone else.
And if Bob comes? If bob decides to invade Fountain then the best option for your is to dock in one of the Serpentis stations and when they start camping just sit tight and count your iskies.
If the bob fleet is of a reasonable scope then there is also the possibility for a bit pvp and thatĘs all free.
Okay okay what now? Simply set of your auto-pilot on yz-lql.Pay attention, however, travelling in Fountain can be dangerous.Use bookmarks and patrols. The key to success is explore.
I was a naughty boy in former days , can I come to Fountain also? Sure, take in avance, contact with Darth Solo or Welsh Wizard. Pay attention the other corporations in eve can still attack you.
How do I keep informed of dangers in Fountain? Log in on the Fountain channel( coming soon, man i hate this Caldari stuff). Be carefull this channel is public, therefore hostile spies will be also present in this channel.
Why do we not form an Alliance? That is the problem. Alliances want the rich area for themselves. Celes want s the rich area for everyone. Everyone would be able to go wherever they want.
Ok last question.Where can I get a Darth Solo action figure? Unfortunately these collectors items are temporarily sold out GOD is busy Can i help you?
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Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.10.06 23:27:00 -
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I've always wondered why it's marked as BoB space on the territorial map. I've no interest in moving there myself, I'm quite happy where I am, but I'm sure corps in empire looking for 0.0 access would be more inclined if it wasn't labeled as BoB space.
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.07 00:24:00 -
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According to the map thread its bob space
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Dortock
The Scarlet Harmonic
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Posted - 2006.10.07 01:44:00 -
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This offer is gold. I recommend anyone who is even considering this to accept it. I can't stress enough what an opportunity this is.
Ratting in a very rich region with a versatile pvp corp watching the rear-end of your ship? Who can say no.
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.07 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb According to the map thread its bob space
We must assume it is a typo.
Everyone is welcome in Fountain, aka the darth solo adventure playground. -----------------
Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option. |

DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.07 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Plim
Originally by: Kaleeb According to the map thread its bob space
We must assume it is a typo.
tbh shariona it's exactly this kind of galnet transmission that messes you up everytime.
OOC and flamebait.
Anyway (IC)...
Good Luck Celest in their endevours to pull more pilots into Fountain.
Just remember... we are watching.
Dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Specture
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.10.07 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Plim
Originally by: Kaleeb According to the map thread its bob space
We must assume it is a typo.
tbh shariona it's exactly this kind of galnet transmission that messes you up everytime.
OOC and flamebait.
Anyway (IC)...
Good Luck Celest in their endevours to pull more pilots into Fountain.
Just remember... we are watching.
Dbp
In BoB, you don't watch alliance chat, alliance chat watches you. Oh and please send some NPCers into delve as well I can not be bothered to buy space gas for my Ishtar, and my Ogre IIs are hungry 
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Shariona
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.07 14:10:00 -
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Mods please clear this thread of all not ic posts. This forums are becoming a laugh
GOD is busy Can i help you?
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Mitch Taylor
Caldari Dark-Rising Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.07 14:38:00 -
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[in character] To the pilots of Celes, you will continue to be engaged. All you have achieved from this is put some fire in my belly which is a good thing.
To the would be newcomers to Fountain, I say this, get some bookmarks, pack all your precious stuff into a hauler, set destination to a-1con and make the journey that Darth promises will make your dreams come true.
When your putting out the flames on your loved ones backs you will regret it.
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HordeZla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.07 15:14:00 -
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Please rename the thread to what your trying to say:
Celest need help in Fountain
or
Clect invite you to join the band waggon
or
We can't do it, please can you help
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We like to flam it flam it.
the list is endless and your posts are too.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.07 15:15:00 -
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To be honest any good corps wanting to use the Fountain region should just apply to Xelas or The Horde, it'd be far safer in the long run, it would get you into a group who will actually support you and you'd be able to participate in 0.0 life as part of an alliance.
Celes are only inviting you in as non-alliance corps to wind up BoB, which is an admirably amusing concept but will ultimately end in you dying a lot.
Remember Celes have a history of being useless, of bailing out of anything difficult, of not supporting their friends and of never sticking it out as part of a group of corps, they'll help you about as much as the Amarr Emporer wants to help the free Minmatar.
There are ways to get into 0.0 space and be welcome there without being duped by a pirate corp like Celes.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.07 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Remember Celes have a history of being useless, of bailing out of anything difficult, of not supporting their friends
Dear Blacklight
Your efforts to undermine Celes are in vain, calling us space pirates is a slur on our good name. We are as many people will tell you the "Good guys" of the universe and will always try to help the little guy of the universe find his feet.
That you feel the need to resort to these attacks shows how well the brave fighters of Celestial Apocalypse and our Serpentis friends have been fairing against the tyranical and oppresive rule of Bob.
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Royaldo
KVA Noble Inc. THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2006.10.07 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight To be honest any good corps wanting to use the Fountain region should just apply to Xelas or The Horde, it'd be far safer in the long run, it would get you into a group who will actually support you and you'd be able to participate in 0.0 life as part of an alliance.
yup, thats it really. talk to someone who will actually help you out. /me puts on some tom waits
Well I'm goin' out west Where the wind blows tall 'Cause Tony Franciosa Used to date my ma They got some money out there They're giving it away I'm gonna do what I want Do what I want And I'm gonna get paid
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.07 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Plim
Originally by: Kaleeb According to the map thread its bob space
We must assume it is a typo.
tbh shariona it's exactly this kind of galnet transmission that messes you up everytime.
OOC and flamebait.
Anyway (IC)...
Good Luck Celest in their endevours to pull more pilots into Fountain.
Just remember... we are watching.
Dbp
OOC what are you talking about dear chap? 
I was refering to the map I recently downloaded from a Jita information terminal. I was eluding to the fact that it's creaters seem to be spreading disinformation throughout the EVE galaxy. People should watch out for that sort of thing. -----------------
Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option. |

Devoras2
Amarr Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.07 20:26:00 -
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I hence endorse this.
Dev And they call me slow.... hey! Thats an insult!
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Raznarok
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.07 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight To be honest any good corps wanting to use the Fountain region should just apply to Xelas or The Horde, it'd be far safer in the long run, it would get you into a group who will actually support you and you'd be able to participate in 0.0 life as part of an alliance.
Celes are only inviting you in as non-alliance corps to wind up BoB, which is an admirably amusing concept but will ultimately end in you dying a lot.
Remember Celes have a history of being useless, of bailing out of anything difficult, of not supporting their friends and of never sticking it out as part of a group of corps, they'll help you about as much as the Amarr Emporer wants to help the free Minmatar.
There are ways to get into 0.0 space and be welcome there without being duped by a pirate corp like Celes.
Dear Mr Blacklight
Although your unhappy with the current offer that Celestial Apocalypse has made, I dont see you in a position to challenge it.
This offer for corps and individuals to come to Fountain and increase their wallet sizes and experience of 0.0 mechanics without the hassle of Alliance politics, is a one in a million opportunity.
Your assumptions that this offer is merely a wind up, and for CELES entertainment value is humouring to say the least.
Your contempt for CELES I suspect comes from an rejected appliation to join recently. And an application that was lodged and again declined mid-2005.
Please dont attempt to label CELES as pirates - we dont "take regions, cause we like them".
Good day sir.
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Afonso Henriques
Minmatar Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.10.07 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Raznarok
Please dont attempt to label CELES as pirates - we dont "take regions, cause we like them".
Good day sir.
To be fair, you align with the likes of HUFF who will be sniping at those deluded enough to make the trip to Fountain. Huff and their ilk (your friends) routinely gate camp in empire in aridia. So your offer rings hollow to those like myself. I ran into many of your friends while in aridia just the past few weeks.
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Nahia Senne
Fortunis Novum Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.07 23:11:00 -
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all i can say is, go there and have fun. alliances talk big but you will soon learn how impossible it is for them to keep you out. especially with all the npc stations there.
in the end, you make so much more isk compared to empire, losing few cheap npc'ing/mining ships doesnt matter at all.
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Raznarok
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.08 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Raznarok on 08/10/2006 00:27:30
Originally by: Afonso Henriques To be fair, you align with the likes of HUFF who will be sniping at those deluded enough to make the trip to Fountain. Huff and their ilk (your friends) routinely gate camp in empire in aridia. So your offer rings hollow to those like myself. I ran into many of your friends while in aridia just the past few weeks.
Our affiliations do not represent what our corp is about. HUFF is not CELES, and what HUFF do as a corp is completely their own business.
Im delighted you got to meet them, they can be delightful despite their appetite for destruction. |

Dynast
Knights of Red Mars
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Posted - 2006.10.08 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight To be honest any good corps wanting to use the Fountain region should just apply to Xelas or The Horde, it'd be far safer in the long run, it would get you into a group who will actually support you and you'd be able to participate in 0.0 life as part of an alliance.
You must understand that many of us are not interested in living on our knees, members of a vassal alliance. This is surely the quickest and easiest path, but it is one in which many of us cannot take real satisfaction. Were we to pledge our allegiance to some alliance, it should at least be a sovereign state.
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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.08 09:30:00 -
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Sovereign states imply ownership of space. There will be no ownership of Fountain by anyone without our involvement.
So, if you want to live there, you either do it like Darth proposes or like Blacklight proposes. The former means greater literal independence, the latter means less limitations in what you can do. Either way you will be targeted by people inside the region.
An example: Mining in fountain can be great. However, there are just very few nice systems anywhere near the Serpentis bases. That means you will compete with eachother unless you get access to BoB/Xelas outposts or are allowed to build your own bases (POS). No bases will be constructed other then those we permit to be.
Personally I don't mind if you throw your lot in with Darth. A greater population is a good thing in many ways. Just don't blindly assume that there's no better option available.
As for the reason of BoB being marked as owners of the region. That is because noone formally contests us, and because we have repeatedly demonstrated the power to prevent others from building additional infrastructure to support economic or military activities in the region.
Good luck in Fountain
Old blog |

Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.08 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Raznarok Your contempt for CELES I suspect comes from an rejected appliation to join recently. And an application that was lodged and again declined mid-2005.
That was funny congrats on your sense of humour 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Ribbo
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.08 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Nahia Senne all i can say is, go there and have fun. alliances talk big but you will soon learn how impossible it is for them to keep you out. especially with all the npc stations there.
in the end, you make so much more isk compared to empire, losing few cheap npc'ing/mining ships doesnt matter at all.
i commend you on these words, the best way is to come and find out for yourselves, only count the days until we squeeze the serpentis out of the stations and the rats that hide there alongside them.
Agenda's are there to be had, so are more targets in fountain (if they undock) just try not to dwell when the fights are there to be had the most overrated "anti pirate" corp in Eve are sitting in the stations shouting "think of the isk your making" out of the portholes.
- fanboi'ing eve-celebrities the world over. |

Raznarok
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.09 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Raznarok Your contempt for CELES I suspect comes from an rejected appliation to join recently. And an application that was lodged and again declined mid-2005.
That was funny congrats on your sense of humour 
It wasnt supposed to be funny and denial is a beautiful thing.
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Plan Neun
Caldari Ganja Unlimited
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Posted - 2006.10.09 07:42:00 -
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Edited by: Plan Neun on 09/10/2006 07:42:37 Paid Fountain a visit during this weekend. If the presence of BoB is so weak as it seems I think it is strange that this space is not challenged by new citizens. Not so BoB "friendly" citizens.
:p "I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.09 10:24:00 -
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assistance will be given to corps and alliances but not individual players.
we will escort your equipment up to the area around YZ-LQL. This is where our entire corp is based and where you will be safest.
d solo.
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Low Blow
Amarr Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.09 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo up to the area around YZ-LQL. This is where our entire corp is based
d solo.
You mean this is where your entire corp is docked 
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Chrony
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.09 17:23:00 -
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Dear CELES sponsored Corporations in Fountain, think carefully about your decisions, because as soon as we return victorius from ASCN space your corpses will be used to celebrate our victory!
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J'inn
Snickers Inc
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Posted - 2006.10.09 19:48:00 -
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And if you are planning to visit the lovely wildlands that are Fountain . . . may I suggest that you stop by the Snickers' Super Store in Karan, Aridia.
Located just two jumps from Fountain space, the Snickers' Super Store stocks practically every Tech 2 item (except ships)in game. From Tech 2 Ammo to Armor Hardeners, we got it all.
Fountain is a dangerous place . . . yes you need Tech 2.
Get it at Snickers!!
P.S. There is only one base in Karan, so we are easy to find.
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Icomeinpeace
Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.09 22:44:00 -
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The old FA became greedy and currupt.
Think what you wish, I say that BoB liberated fountain.Xelas, an honerable alliance, has been trying to establish theirs roots there and build a strong foundation in which their Corporations can live.
Celestial Apocalypse not pirates they say? I tend to disagree.They accuse BoB of false allegations, then attack Xelas for being "freinds" or "colaberating" with BoB.
Why should xelas pay the price when BoB are the ones to blame?Why have celest concentrated their attacks on xelas in fountain and not BoB in Delve if we have been such a menace.
In my opinion as a BoB pilot, celes became the "pirates" once they invaded fountain and attacked Xelas, after BoB rightfully gained control and un-selfishly invited other Corporations and Alliances to the region.
I see Shariona tells you "Officially it is bob space, but bob is not planning or able to protect the access to this rich area."
The problem with this statment is that Celes cannot say for sure that bob is not planning, or able to do anything.This is very misleading.
Interestingly enough if bob are unable to protect access ti this rich area then why was this next statement made ; Bob will not accept a large pos certainly.
I cannot tell you if you wish to come to fountain whome to speak with, you have to make that descision on your own. I do hope more people come to fountain wether it be in support for celes, bob, or xelas.
There are always two sides to a story, so do your homework kids.
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Coupo
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.09 22:52:00 -
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Shariona, aka Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf.
I Shoot first, ask questions about your veldspar mining technique later |

pershphanie
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.10 03:48:00 -
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TY celes for restocking our pond.
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Shariona
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.10 05:50:00 -
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Edited by: Shariona on 10/10/2006 05:50:43 Thx mods for keeping this thread ic.

GOD is busy Can i help you?
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.10 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: pershphanie TY celes for restocking our pond.
The pond life are fighting ASCN at the moment I think you will find. -----------------
Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option. |

Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.10 15:50:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Plim
Originally by: pershphanie TY celes for restocking our pond.
The pond life are fighting ASCN at the moment I think you will find.
Now now Plim, leave RAT out of this 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.10 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Plim
Originally by: pershphanie TY celes for restocking our pond.
The pond life are fighting ASCN at the moment I think you will find.
Now now Plim, leave RAT out of this 
Speaking of RAT, Omeega owes me babies 
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.10 18:28:00 -
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He owes me 2 bears and a vodka bearing russian princess, get in line you ferox hater!
Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
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The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers
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Posted - 2006.10.12 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher *snip*
(IC)...
Good Luck Celest in their endevours to pull more pilots into Fountain.
Just remember... we are watching.
Dbp
DB, you guys are so cute when you talk all mean and such...
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.12 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: The Hooch
Originally by: DB Preacher *snip*
(IC)...
Good Luck Celest in their endevours to pull more pilots into Fountain.
Just remember... we are watching.
Dbp
DB, you guys are so cute when you talk all mean and such...
Almost as cute as our fanbois. Nice to see you are still alive Hooch 
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The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers
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Posted - 2006.10.12 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: The Hooch
Originally by: DB Preacher *snip*
(IC)...
Good Luck Celest in their endevours to pull more pilots into Fountain.
Just remember... we are watching.
Dbp
DB, you guys are so cute when you talk all mean and such...
Almost as cute as our fanbois. Nice to see you are still alive Hooch 
Yes BL I am still kicking about, and I am honored that I still have my Fanboi status. I don't yap as much, but I do keep up on things. I am currently being a PITA as always...only now I spread my love and flowers to many others instead of just you all...BoB cannot fulfill me like you used to, I have needs you know.
But remember I am always watching you never know just when or where I might pop up.
Send DB and DianaBloc all my love 
Hooch
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Takeshi Solugar
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Posted - 2006.10.13 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Takeshi Solugar on 13/10/2006 19:53:43 I am a relatively new recruit to the Academy despite the lines on my face and the crimson like hue of my nose owing to years of Quafe overuse. I have information to relay and a story to tell at the same time. I became fed up with my job at Caldari Navy, sick of the grind of receiving implants for my very hard work of dispatching Guristas Pirates and other such rabble. My constant study and training had allowed me the unique skill of learning while I slept, and I made good use of it.
"The training of Caldari Battelship 2 has been completed"
I looked in my wallet saw bleak things in my future. The implant market had become saturated and my revenue stream was dying. I became sick of it all. Sick of the jump queues, sick of the Nav lag, sick of seeing 100 other working stiffs working the same agent, for the same rewards, day in and day out.
I decided to take a chance. I sold my most prized possessions: 5 'arbalest' heavy launchers, 4 'arbalest' standard launchers, and 2 'arbalest' assault launchers. I bought the latest in Empire caldari technology, the Raven, and headed to Fountain. I arrived nearly penniless after the usurious insurance fee, and fitting my Raven with the most basic and meagre fittings. I also procured inexpensive BPO's that would ensure my survival. CELES provided me, a single pilot in a monolothic corp, with an escort through the most dangerous of areas, with 99% of my worth contained on my ship and in my hold.
On the first day of my arrival I made my first 30 million, but the second day was the most interesting. I warped to a belt and found Brynn Jerdola with 2 of his underlings engaged in some shady illegal business. I powered up the shield hardeners and proceeded to shoot missiles into the hull of the weakest of the 3, but they barely scratched his shields. My shields were failing and I made a call for assistance to help dispatch these evildoers, and my heart leapt when two ships showed up. To my horror I realised that these ships were hostile to me, and a call went out for help against multiple foes. I warped to the nearest station to repair and recharge my shields, as well as replace my smoking capacitor. When I came back there were approximately 6-7 battleships pounding away at Brynn and he went down in a smoking ruin. The hostiles were chased off and congratulations were given.
A CELES pilot scooped the loot of his can and my heart sank. These scoundrels were absconding with my loot!!! Everything they said to this point was a LIE!! This was the scenario I was now contemplating. To my shock and elation I was instructed to dock at the nearest station to be given the said loot. I was also given the bounty in destroying Brynn Jerdola paid in isk from a different pilot. His tag was the only thing we recovered so somehow I think he will show his face again in the system. I am now worth appoximately 10 times more than I did two days ago, just trying to make ends meet in this universe. So yeah I'd say it's worked out for me pretty well.
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meloveulongtime
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Posted - 2006.10.13 22:00:00 -
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I have this re-occuring dream... Im sleeping in my noob ship, the very same noob ship I was given at the academy.
I wake up in a daze, im in Fountain, high above the a-1con gate. Then without me doing anything my ship is in warp, hurtling across yz-lql, I use this time to attempt to gather my senses, then I come to a halt, high above the 75fa gate. Im still wiping the sleep from my eyes when suddenly im in warp again, this time to the station.
I drop out of warp about 200 clicks out, my eyes begin to focus. 4 pilots in space, celes? they appear neutral to me, my rickety ships sensors tell me they have me locked. All 4 ships open fire with incredible accuracy. then just as my shields fail im in warp again... flying so fast away from my agressors i feel i left my stomach behind.
Its peaceful now, my ship tells me im heading to a spot 200au out. What could be out here? I come to rest in deep deep space. I begin to contemplate what has happened, why am I here, what is my purpose. It is almost as if I have no life of my own. This re-occuring cycle seems to have a pattern. A tingle goes down my spine as I realise the true horror of my situation, I am... Darkness, as quickly as I had woken, I am back in my deep sleep. Until the process begins again.

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Gyrn Fzirth
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.14 02:49:00 -
[43]
Originally by: meloveulongtime I have this re-occuring dream... Im sleeping in my noob ship, the very same noob ship I was given at the academy.
I wake up in a daze, im in Fountain, high above the a-1con gate. Then without me doing anything my ship is in warp, hurtling across yz-lql, I use this time to attempt to gather my senses, then I come to a halt, high above the 75fa gate. Im still wiping the sleep from my eyes when suddenly im in warp again, this time to the station.
I drop out of warp about 200 clicks out, my eyes begin to focus. 4 pilots in space, celes? they appear neutral to me, my rickety ships sensors tell me they have me locked. All 4 ships open fire with incredible accuracy. then just as my shields fail im in warp again... flying so fast away from my agressors i feel i left my stomach behind.
Its peaceful now, my ship tells me im heading to a spot 200au out. What could be out here? I come to rest in deep deep space. I begin to contemplate what has happened, why am I here, what is my purpose. It is almost as if I have no life of my own. This re-occuring cycle seems to have a pattern. A tingle goes down my spine as I realise the true horror of my situation, I am... Darkness, as quickly as I had woken, I am back in my deep sleep. Until the process begins again.

Obviously a dream. CELES likes it up close and personal - 200k off is a bit far for my autocannons :) ========== CELES Killboard: http://www.celeskills.com
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Raznarok
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.14 13:07:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth
Obviously a dream. CELES likes it up close and personal - 200k off is a bit far for my autocannons :)
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Neurosis
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.14 23:01:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Neurosis on 14/10/2006 23:02:15 Do not be misguided by Celes and thier propaganda Engine. Thoer current situation is not what they would have you believe it to be. Outgunned and outnumbered thier "invitation", as they call it is truly nothing more than a desperate attempt to fill the area with cannon fodder.
They are unable to protect you and will not help you replace your lost ships or supplies. They are offering you what they can not secure.
Celes are the worst kind of Pirates leading the lambs to slaughter in hopes that they can capitalize on your misfortune. Follow them, come as you are and enjoy the spurratic wealth you can gain from 0.0, or be wise and contact the alliances that will welcome you and allow you to prosper during the times that celes are unable to dock or come out of the ss's they've made and long after they have left those following thier offer without a leg to stand on.
Celes offer you spurratic chances at making a meager amount of isk while Horde/Xelas can offer you the ability to fully tap into the vast recources in the area and not have to wonder what happens when they get bored and leave.
OOC, wtf happened to my sig, and how is it the only one moderated by the loser mod team.
CCP hates me and i'm in bob what does that tell you. _________________________________________________ Sig is not eve related - please see the RULES - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) |

darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.15 00:41:00 -
[46]
Thats just STUPID talk bob boy... how would u even know whats happened here?, iv not seen a bob for weeks on my land.
Its obvious to even Xelas who controls fountain core. some have even talked to me about how the alliance cant muster more than a few combat ships while others mine and kill the local serp pirates. of how annoyed they are that they cant remove one corp from fountain and constantly get beaten down.
the people of eve make their own minds up when they come here. OR, u could talk to everyone making tons of isk in fountain the now with our help. either way im not fussed.
d solo.
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Mang0o
Caldari Cosmic Fusion
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Posted - 2006.10.15 11:48:00 -
[47]
Celes so own FA atm.. biiiiig time!!!
CELES is the new owner of FA, Good job guys!
I love you Mang0o, take a guess why -Eris |

Xendie
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.15 15:06:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Mang0o Celes so own FA atm.. biiiiig time!!!
CELES is the new owner of FA, Good job guys!
indeed quite obvious, especially with the constant annihilation of xelas fleets while being outnumbered. yes you read it xelas fleets annihilated on a daily basis!
to find out the details you know wich hall of records to look at.

Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Goktar illiat
Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.15 17:41:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Chrony Dear CELES sponsored Corporations in Fountain, think carefully about your decisions, because as soon as we return victorius from ASCN space your corpses will be used to celebrate our victory!
Dont you have to get INTO ascn space with the fighting to complete that goal ? 
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.15 19:03:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Mang0o Celes so own FA atm.. biiiiig time!!!
CELES is the new owner of FA, Good job guys!
U left ASCN! Are CF reforming then?
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.16 06:51:00 -
[51]
woohoo, more targets to shoot at! i see celes are employing my meat shield idea, strap all these newbies to fountain to their battleships and use them as an extra layer on top of your shields already referred to as "Meat Shield", also see "Meat Shield Mkii" Battle Cruisers strapped to dreadnaughts :) (See all you newbies, to fountain, soon) o/
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dabster
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.16 10:02:00 -
[52]
Originally by: R0ot woohoo, more targets to shoot at! i see celes are employing my meat shield idea, strap all these newbies to fountain to their battleships and use them as an extra layer on top of your shields already referred to as "Meat Shield", also see "Meat Shield Mkii" Battle Cruisers strapped to dreadnaughts :) (See all you newbies, to fountain, soon) o/
Dear R0ot, before calling people "newbies" (this is some kind of term for "new pod pilot", yes?), take a look in the mirror. Our records show that you have preferred to pilot 2 types of vessels in your actions agasint Celes since the 20th of the last month. In 27 encounters you have flown; Merlin Capsule
Seems to me like this "newbie" term you speak of, is more suited for yourself. You see, the people who come to Fountain recently as guests of Celes, are mostly able to fly Battleships. ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click. |

Chrony
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.16 11:21:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Chrony on 16/10/2006 11:23:04 Edited by: Chrony on 16/10/2006 11:22:11
Originally by: Goktar illiat
Originally by: Chrony Dear CELES sponsored Corporations in Fountain, think carefully about your decisions, because as soon as we return victorius from ASCN space your corpses will be used to celebrate our victory!
Dont you have to get INTO ascn space with the fighting to complete that goal ? 
Northern fiend, do an agent search for my character and OH MY GOD you will notice that im in Paragon Soul... The last time I checked it was contested space but ASCN still had Sov, thats gonna change soon but that has nothing to do with the thread . Take your clueless flames somewhere else. If you dont have anything to say about the current situation in Foutain, please keep yourself from posting.
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.16 12:00:00 -
[54]
When will our enemies realise that the last thing we want is for the invited corps to actually fight. the meat shield thing is silly.
I want them at the first sign of the enemy to hide and call us, we will then turn up and remove the enemy ships from our land. They arnt here to fight, they are here to make isk of the back of our hard work, a win win situation could not be more clearer.
If they started fighting our enemies then celes apoc would have less chance of fights and that is the LAST thing i want.
d solo.
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.16 14:23:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Proxay on 16/10/2006 14:23:58 Can we please let this thread die...
It's flame bait in every sense of the meaning.
I don't really see what the object of this thread has been...so far i've noticed a stabber and deimos in a-1con area with the "friend of celes" thing in their bio (Who i chased for a bit) Over this thread and the "CELES WANT TO MAKE YOU RICH..." thread there has been excessive flaming and a lot of finger pointing, and killboard refrencing, all for the growth of ones e-peen.
Well done?
Lock this please, it's slipping off-character, just like the other thread.
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dabster
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.16 15:31:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 16/10/2006 14:25:39 Edited by: Proxay on 16/10/2006 14:23:58 Can we please let this thread die...
It's flame bait in every sense of the meaning.
I don't really see what the object of this thread has been...so far i've noticed a stabber and deimos in a-1con area with the "friend of celes" thing in their bio (Who i chased for a bit) Over this thread and the "CELES WANT TO MAKE YOU RICH..." thread there has been excessive flaming and killboard refrencing, all for the growth of ones e-peen.
Well done?
Lock this please, it's slipping off-character, just like the other thread.
[email protected] for tissues. ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click. |

Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.16 18:54:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Kaleeb
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Plim
Originally by: pershphanie TY celes for restocking our pond.
The pond life are fighting ASCN at the moment I think you will find.
Now now Plim, leave RAT out of this 
Speaking of RAT, Omeega owes me babies 
what the...
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Pehova Mindtriq
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.16 23:46:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Icomeinpeace Celestial Apocalypse not pirates they say? I tend to disagree.They accuse BoB of false allegations, then attack Xelas for being "freinds" or "colaberating" with BoB.
Why should xelas pay the price when BoB are the ones to blame?Why have celest concentrated their attacks on xelas in fountain and not BoB in Delve if we have been such a menace.
In my opinion as a BoB pilot, celes became the "pirates" once they invaded fountain and attacked Xelas, after BoB rightfully gained control and un-selfishly invited other Corporations and Alliances to the region.
Wouldn't that make every alliance out there that attacked another alliance pirates? There are ofc different views on what a pirate really is but calling CELES pirates doesn't really make sence unless you are trying to offend us. I mean we are not killing Xelas and Horde for profit, pirates do. Pirates kill everyone except their friends, we don't. Pirates wouldn't take down enemy POS'es if they didn't see any profit from doing it, we take them down because Xelas is our enemy.
I think it comes down to us being anti pirates and the enemy think calling us the opposite will make us angry. By now you chances of offending us would be better if you called us mercs or something.
Celes/Toxin vs BOB |

ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.17 00:00:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq
Originally by: Icomeinpeace Celestial Apocalypse not pirates they say? I tend to disagree.They accuse BoB of false allegations, then attack Xelas for being "freinds" or "colaberating" with BoB.
Why should xelas pay the price when BoB are the ones to blame?Why have celest concentrated their attacks on xelas in fountain and not BoB in Delve if we have been such a menace.
In my opinion as a BoB pilot, celes became the "pirates" once they invaded fountain and attacked Xelas, after BoB rightfully gained control and un-selfishly invited other Corporations and Alliances to the region.
Wouldn't that make every alliance out there that attacked another alliance pirates? There are ofc different views on what a pirate really is but calling CELES pirates doesn't really make sence unless you are trying to offend us. I mean we are not killing Xelas and Horde for profit, pirates do. Pirates kill everyone except their friends, we don't. Pirates wouldn't take down enemy POS'es if they didn't see any profit from doing it, we take them down because Xelas is our enemy.
I think it comes down to us being anti pirates and the enemy think calling us the opposite will make us angry. By now you chances of offending us would be better if you called us mercs or something.
I beg your pardon. You are not priates.. ok lets see.
I mean we are not killing Xelas and Horde for profit, pirates do.
Your killing them for the space to make isk. So you are defenitly killing for your own profit.
Pirates kill everyone except their friends, we don't.
Excuse me agian fine sir. You kill Xelas and Horde but not the ones you invited. In fountain your are killing everyone except your friends.
Please rethink how you look at yourself "anti" pirate. Cause right now the words you speak dont seperate us much at all. Lets not even talk about your outrageus remarks about claiming another Alliance space as your own.
Dont hide from what you are. Everyone can see it. Your pirates. You loot and pillage to get what you want. ----------------------------------------------- ok ok
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Raznarok
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.17 00:21:00 -
[60]
Originally by: ponieus
I beg your pardon. You are not priates.. ok lets see.
I mean we are not killing Xelas and Horde for profit, pirates do.
Your killing them for the space to make isk. So you are defenitly killing for your own profit.
Pirates kill everyone except their friends, we don't.
Excuse me agian fine sir. You kill Xelas and Horde but not the ones you invited. In fountain your are killing everyone except your friends.
Please rethink how you look at yourself "anti" pirate. Cause right now the words you speak dont seperate us much at all. Lets not even talk about your outrageus remarks about claiming another Alliance space as your own.
Dont hide from what you are. Everyone can see it. Your pirates. You loot and pillage to get what you want.
Ponieus.
Xelas and The Horde are associated with our enemies and are being shot at to make space for our newly visitors and friends now making their way to Fountain. If we don't do this, our friends may get blown up by hostile Xelas pilots in their Merlin fleets. We would really like to save them that embarrassment.
We are not killing everyone that is not friendly as you stated, only those that are hostile (neg standings or pirates), we dont shoot on neutrals - check our corporate policy.
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.17 00:21:00 -
[61]
Edited by: welsh wizard on 17/10/2006 00:21:56
Originally by: ponieus
Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq
Originally by: Icomeinpeace Celestial Apocalypse not pirates they say? I tend to disagree.They accuse BoB of false allegations, then attack Xelas for being "freinds" or "colaberating" with BoB.
Why should xelas pay the price when BoB are the ones to blame?Why have celest concentrated their attacks on xelas in fountain and not BoB in Delve if we have been such a menace.
In my opinion as a BoB pilot, celes became the "pirates" once they invaded fountain and attacked Xelas, after BoB rightfully gained control and un-selfishly invited other Corporations and Alliances to the region.
Wouldn't that make every alliance out there that attacked another alliance pirates? There are ofc different views on what a pirate really is but calling CELES pirates doesn't really make sence unless you are trying to offend us. I mean we are not killing Xelas and Horde for profit, pirates do. Pirates kill everyone except their friends, we don't. Pirates wouldn't take down enemy POS'es if they didn't see any profit from doing it, we take them down because Xelas is our enemy.
I think it comes down to us being anti pirates and the enemy think calling us the opposite will make us angry. By now you chances of offending us would be better if you called us mercs or something.
I beg your pardon. You are not priates.. ok lets see.
I mean we are not killing Xelas and Horde for profit, pirates do.
Your killing them for the space to make isk. So you are defenitly killing for your own profit.
Pirates kill everyone except their friends, we don't.
Excuse me agian fine sir. You kill Xelas and Horde but not the ones you invited. In fountain your are killing everyone except your friends.
Please rethink how you look at yourself "anti" pirate. Cause right now the words you speak dont seperate us much at all. Lets not even talk about your outrageus remarks about claiming another Alliance space as your own.
Dont hide from what you are. Everyone can see it. Your pirates. You loot and pillage to get what you want.
We're not pirate hunters anymore, not actively anyway. We'll still shoot them if we get the chance, but chances are rare.
We are warriors of the light, we fight the good fight as best as the universe allows us to. Our morals seperate us from entities like you. You operate an NBSI policy and have also made it clear that your intentions are galactic domination. In our eyes that makes you the bad guys.
Our corpoprations goal is a free 0.0, free from the oppression that entities like you represent. Your alliances roots are in piracy, destroying people who couldn't hope to defend themselves in the face of such overwhelming force.
0.0 will be freespace.
Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
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Pehova Mindtriq
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.17 00:38:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Pehova Mindtriq on 17/10/2006 00:41:31
Originally by: ponieus
I beg your pardon. You are not priates.. ok lets see.
I mean we are not killing Xelas and Horde for profit, pirates do.
Your killing them for the space to make isk. So you are defenitly killing for your own profit.
Pirates kill everyone except their friends, we don't.
Excuse me agian fine sir. You kill Xelas and Horde but not the ones you invited. In fountain your are killing everyone except your friends.
Please rethink how you look at yourself "anti" pirate. Cause right now the words you speak dont seperate us much at all. Lets not even talk about your outrageus remarks about claiming another Alliance space as your own.
Dont hide from what you are. Everyone can see it. Your pirates. You loot and pillage to get what you want.
We are not killing them for the space just to make isk. If we wanted to make isk we would join one of the more established alliances in 0.0. That would give us more isk and less enemies. We have recieved offers of doing this but declined because we are not in it for the isk.
We are not killing everyone. We are not under NBSI policy so if we come across a neutral that we don't know we won't shoot it.
And last we are not activly hunting pirates in empire anymore so I wouldn't consider us an anti pirate corp, that doesn't make us pirates. We are not hiding from what we are, the good guys.
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.17 01:01:00 -
[63]
In the words of the great b00gieman the tall... for freeeeeedoooooom. -----------------
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Velsharoon
Gallente Corsets and Carebears Whips and Chains
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Posted - 2006.10.17 01:16:00 -
[64]
Is there actually an official resistance in fountain or are you guys inviting idiots to their death. Neither prospect bothers be but im just curious...
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.17 08:20:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Velsharoon Is there actually an official resistance in fountain or are you guys inviting idiots to their death. Neither prospect bothers be but im just curious...
resistance to whom?.. we are the number 1 force in Fountain.
I dont blame XS, tbh if i was in there shoes i wouldnt fight us either, its like bringing a caldari mountain sheep to fight a gallante war wolf(u like how i kept that in character ) ..
And when will ppl start reading?, i said that we dont want the invited corps to fight, we want them to run from the enemies and call us.
d solo.
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Renox
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.17 14:06:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Velsharoon Is there actually an official resistance in fountain or are you guys inviting idiots to their death. Neither prospect bothers be but im just curious...
if you are asking if there is a resistance to Xelas, then yes. We are removing them and their equipment from the core and outwards. The only place they have near-consistant (nondocked) forces is PNQ. Core only contain scouts and the occasional gank squad.
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Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.17 14:31:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Renox
Originally by: Velsharoon Is there actually an official resistance in fountain or are you guys inviting idiots to their death. Neither prospect bothers be but im just curious...
if you are asking if there is a resistance to Xelas, then yes. We are removing them and their equipment from the core and outwards. The only place they have near-consistant (nondocked) forces is PNQ. Core only contain scouts and the occasional gank squad.
I live out of a-1con...i'm yet to be discouraged from traversing there, and it's impossible to 'remove' people from NPC stations...you should know that after bobs' camp ;)
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dabster
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.17 14:46:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Proxay
Originally by: Renox
Originally by: Velsharoon Is there actually an official resistance in fountain or are you guys inviting idiots to their death. Neither prospect bothers be but im just curious...
if you are asking if there is a resistance to Xelas, then yes. We are removing them and their equipment from the core and outwards. The only place they have near-consistant (nondocked) forces is PNQ. Core only contain scouts and the occasional gank squad.
I live out of a-1con...i'm yet to be discouraged from traversing there, and it's impossible to 'remove' people from NPC stations...you should know that after bobs' camp ;)
This is interesting. You say you live from A-1CON, yet your own records of activity show that you have a huge majority of presence in the pipe Aridia<->PNQY for the last, how can this be? Or did you mean to say that you used to live from A-1CON? Because that would make a lot more sense.. ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click. |

Proxay
Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.17 15:03:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Proxay on 17/10/2006 15:04:34
Originally by: dabster
Originally by: Proxay
Originally by: Renox
Originally by: Velsharoon Is there actually an official resistance in fountain or are you guys inviting idiots to their death. Neither prospect bothers be but im just curious...
if you are asking if there is a resistance to Xelas, then yes. We are removing them and their equipment from the core and outwards. The only place they have near-consistant (nondocked) forces is PNQ. Core only contain scouts and the occasional gank squad.
I live out of a-1con...i'm yet to be discouraged from traversing there, and it's impossible to 'remove' people from NPC stations...you should know that after bobs' camp ;)
This is interesting. You say you live from A-1CON, yet your own records of activity show that you have a huge majority of presence in the pipe Aridia<->PNQY for the last, how can this be? Or did you mean to say that you used to live from A-1CON? Because that would make a lot more sense..
No, I live in a-1con, most my faction stuff is there, i have a few Bs there, you know...standard stuff i got ratting 1-2 jumps from a-1...i'm sure you remember...oh wait, ask someone who saw me daily like oh say MECHcore or somesuch.
And yeah, i've been hanging around there with a few newer people in my corp giving them the ropes etc. You've only ever caught me by suprise, and thats what...once a month? (Last loss was due to map not showing camps, no intel, full ratting setup and a damn 'dictor)
(I was there yesterday fyi)
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Psycarne
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.17 15:35:00 -
[70]
I base in a-1. I don't see you there. I see the odd xelas shuttle pass through however, but unfortunately they are a little wiley for my battleships tracking systems. ------------- CELES because making the tough guys cry is funnier.
Limp? |
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Renox
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.17 19:31:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Proxay
Originally by: Renox
Originally by: Velsharoon Is there actually an official resistance in fountain or are you guys inviting idiots to their death. Neither prospect bothers be but im just curious...
if you are asking if there is a resistance to Xelas, then yes. We are removing them and their equipment from the core and outwards. The only place they have near-consistant (nondocked) forces is PNQ. Core only contain scouts and the occasional gank squad.
I won't/can't argue that you as a single person can survive in core. Of course you can, single persons can survive pretty much anywhere with stations that don't require docking rights, but your corp and alliance cannot. A few hermits might live there, but to say your alliance has any signifigant forces in the area would be very misleading.
I live out of a-1con...i'm yet to be discouraged from traversing there, and it's impossible to 'remove' people from NPC stations...you should know that after bobs' camp ;)
TheJay > grrr slow stupid garlic eating surrender monkeys |

Raznarok
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.17 23:30:00 -
[72]
OOC - read the forum description noobz and stop your b-izn-itching.
Take that somewhere else, your ruining Sharionas thread. |

Callisto Miir
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Posted - 2006.10.19 17:52:00 -
[73]
After reading these 3 pages of thread... I see posts mostly by Celestial Apocalypse people. I think I can count on one hand the amount of people that have posted from Xelas Alliance.
My question then, is Xelas and Horde not able to defend it's territory against Celestial Apocalypse? I see that Xelas has quite a lot of people in it's alliance, seems to me like they could easily defend and remove any threat in Fountain, but then again, I am not in Fountain so I have no clue of the situation there...
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Fuglife
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.19 18:47:00 -
[74]
The Celes fleet has removed Xelas from fountain core, some do remain and lose there ships daily, the majority of xelas have moved to their sanctuary of PNQY in which they have admirably constructed a space station. Even though they cannot muster enough force to drive our pod pilots from there own home system. Lord knows what would happen if the mighty ACSN with there vast capital fleet could do to the Xelas outpost. Prehaps this is something to consider for them?
However the main Xelas corp, Dark rising has now fled the alliance after constant bombardment from the forces of Celes. Xelas are weak at the knees and ready to fall the only thing holding them up was the safety of there pos' which are now being brought down faster than they can be put up.
Now Mitch Taylor the head of Xelas has abandoned this already weak alliance, is this a sign of the constant in fighting within the alliance? It brings me to the question, why do they not unite there hundreds of pod pilots to kick us out of Fountain? Maybe new leadership will be able to restore Xelas. Who knows what the future will hold to the members of Fountain and the Xelas alliance.
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Im a vereh vereh unhappeh bunneh... <3 |

Mitch Taylor
Caldari Dark-Rising Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.19 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Fuglife The Celes fleet has removed Xelas from fountain core, some do remain and lose there ships daily, the majority of xelas have moved to their sanctuary of PNQY in which they have admirably constructed a space station. Even though they cannot muster enough force to drive our pod pilots from there own home system. Lord knows what would happen if the mighty ACSN with there vast capital fleet could do to the Xelas outpost. Prehaps this is something to consider for them?
However the main Xelas corp, Dark rising has now fled the alliance after constant bombardment from the forces of Celes. Xelas are weak at the knees and ready to fall the only thing holding them up was the safety of there pos' which are now being brought down faster than they can be put up.
Now Mitch Taylor the head of Xelas has abandoned this already weak alliance, is this a sign of the constant in fighting within the alliance? It brings me to the question, why do they not unite there hundreds of pod pilots to kick us out of Fountain? Maybe new leadership will be able to restore Xelas. Who knows what the future will hold to the members of Fountain and the Xelas alliance.
We are not fleeing from Celes fug, I love you too much.
I just cant stand serpentis rats! i fly tempests!
In all seriousness, Celes are an excellent PVP corp. They are fighting an alliance made up of a mixture of PVP and Industry Corps. Therefore I am not suprised at the losses so far.
Dark came to Xelas to help them grow, with them sitting at 6th in the rankings, I have achieved my goal. Sadly I get bored quite easily, therefore Dark is moving onto pastures new, to seek out a new thrill.
Good luck Xelas! Good Luck Celes!
p.s. fuggy... pull my finger?
Mitch Taylor For Dark
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Fuglife
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.19 20:31:00 -
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Good luck mitch, your corp fights bravely and you in my eyes lead well.
They say a minmartar slave is as only as good as his tools.....
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.19 20:41:00 -
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Good luck mitch i`m sure Dark will do well wherever they go next. One thing I would like to ask is will someone be taking over xelas or will them remaining corps make a new alliance?
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Mitch Taylor
Caldari Dark-Rising Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.19 22:08:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Kaleeb Good luck mitch i`m sure Dark will do well wherever they go next. One thing I would like to ask is will someone be taking over xelas or will them remaining corps make a new alliance?
Blue Flame has been the top dog in Xelas for a long time.
I was his number 2.
My replacement has already been found afaik.
Thank you guys, we wont be far away.
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Pehova Mindtriq
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.19 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mitch Taylor
Originally by: Kaleeb Good luck mitch i`m sure Dark will do well wherever they go next. One thing I would like to ask is will someone be taking over xelas or will them remaining corps make a new alliance?
Blue Flame has been the top dog in Xelas for a long time.
I was his number 2.
My replacement has already been found afaik.
Thank you guys, we wont be far away.
Running an alliance is hard work so I understand your decision mitch. A vacation from that will do you good.
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Deamos
Quintessential Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.20 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Callisto Miir After reading these 3 pages of thread... I see posts mostly by Celestial Apocalypse people. I think I can count on one hand the amount of people that have posted from Xelas Alliance.
My question then, is Xelas and Horde not able to defend it's territory against Celestial Apocalypse? I see that Xelas has quite a lot of people in it's alliance, seems to me like they could easily defend and remove any threat in Fountain, but then again, I am not in Fountain so I have no clue of the situation there...
We fight every day. We just don't need to beat our chests or smack on the forums.
Give me a fair smack free fight and all is well
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Kaosaur
Dark Nebula Gallente Division Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.21 16:17:00 -
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I've just moved to Fountain and I look forward to shooting any members of CELES and anyone who wishes to join them in their destruction.
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.21 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kaosaur I've just moved to Fountain and I look forward to being shot at by any members of CELES and anyone who wishes to join them in their destruction of Xelas.
there fixed your post to reflect current events.
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Kaosaur
Dark Nebula Gallente Division Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.21 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: Kaosaur I've just moved to Fountain and I look forward to being shot at by any members of CELES and anyone who wishes to join them in their destruction of Xelas.
there fixed your post to reflect current events.
You need to lay off the Blue Pill, buddy.
Or is Crystal Egg more your thing?
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Mitch Taylor
Caldari Dark-Rising Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.21 18:05:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Mitch Taylor on 21/10/2006 18:06:22
Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: Kaosaur I've just moved to Fountain and I look forward to being shot at by any members of CELES and anyone who wishes to join them in their destruction of Xelas.
there fixed your post to reflect current events.
I wish I was as cool as you Xendie.
one day, one day! /wishes real hard

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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.22 03:01:00 -
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Quote: My shields were failing and I made a call for assistance to help dispatch these evildoers, and my heart leapt when two ships showed up. To my horror I realised that these ships were hostile to me, and a call went out for help against multiple foes.
This was my corpmate and i. I had spotted the arch-evildoer as i was taking in the sights but alas was not in a combat ship so i had to go and get one at a nearby station. Despite the hostile presence in system a corp-mate was willing to join me and we warped to the belt in question only to find you attacking the escorts (in my experience pirate leaders are cowards and often flee when thier escorts are destroyed). In spite of your insistence of "invited by celestial apocalypse" we made no hostile move towards you and set about slaying the pirate, knowing that any second you may turn your fire upon our frigates. We were rather surprised when you left but our questions were answered when a battleship and recon cruiser of celestial apocalypse arrived. Despite thoughts of a glorius death combating the combined forces of serpentis and celesial apocalypse we decided that discretion was the better part of valour and fled. Despite our surprise at finding some celestial apocalypse members actually active we quite enjoyed the incident and i am genuinely sorry to hear that only the pirates tag survived the explosion when often several highly valuable modules can be found in the wreckage. I am sure this was merely bad luck on your part and that the celestial apocalypse pilots in question were wholy honourable in handing the loot over to you Afer all they are "the white Knights of eve".
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Hey You
Constructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.10.22 04:55:00 -
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Originally by: Shariona Welcome to Fountain
Darth Solo is welcoming you in Fountain. One off the richest areas in Eve.
Yes ofc he is welcoming you to region that isnt his to welcome you in. See blacklights suggestion
Fountain is the only area which is not monitored 24/7 by any alliance. Officially it is bob space, but bob is not planning or able to protect the access to this rich area. Also other alliances who favour bob are not able to do this.
Ofcourse it is monitored. it wouldnt be our space if it isnt. Also he cant know what are we planing or not... See Blacklights post.
- If a bob or a bob friendly alliance entered local warp to a safespot
you make sure u do that. See Blacklights offer.
Bob will not accept a large pos certainly.
lol for a region u just called yours we wont accept? cool. ofc we wont. See Blacklights offer.
To fall in love and fall in debt To alcohol and cigarettes and Mary Jane To keep me insane and doing someone else's cocain
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M1NeR
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.22 06:21:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Kaleeb We are as many people will tell you the "Good guys" of the universe and will always try to help the little guy of the universe find his feet.
There are no "good" or "bad" guys here, Kaleeb. Only points of interest and spheres of influence . Hope you are getting some bobby kills though, they tend to drop good loot . -------
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.23 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Hey You
Originally by: Shariona Welcome to Fountain
Darth Solo is welcoming you in Fountain. One off the richest areas in Eve.
Yes ofc he is welcoming you to region that isnt his to welcome you in. See blacklights suggestion
Fountain is the only area which is not monitored 24/7 by any alliance. Officially it is bob space, but bob is not planning or able to protect the access to this rich area. Also other alliances who favour bob are not able to do this.
Ofcourse it is monitored. it wouldnt be our space if it isnt. Also he cant know what are we planing or not... See Blacklights post.
- If a bob or a bob friendly alliance entered local warp to a safespot
you make sure u do that. See Blacklights offer.
Bob will not accept a large pos certainly.
lol for a region u just called yours we wont accept? cool. ofc we wont. See Blacklights offer.
You'll find BL's offer doesn't hold so much promise anymore.
Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.23 09:41:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Psycarne I base in a-1. I don't see you there. I see the odd xelas shuttle pass through however, but unfortunately they are a little wiley for my battleships tracking systems.
m8 you must be in A-1IJ9 cause A-1CON has lots of Xelas in it :p
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Sextus Licinius
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.24 10:48:00 -
[90]
Originally by: R0ot
Originally by: Psycarne I base in a-1. I don't see you there. I see the odd xelas shuttle pass through however, but unfortunately they are a little wiley for my battleships tracking systems.
m8 you must be in A-1IJ9 cause A-1CON has lots of Xelas in it :p
Yess you're correct, many xelass in A-1CON. You can still hear them sometimes in deep space when is very quiet, whispers and sighs of the xelas dead and faded warcry's from past battles. I personally blame Lodhi, if there wasn't for his sick necro predisposition to gather corpses in his hangar we wouldn't have so many ghosts runing around naked in the chemical station
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Dynast
Knights of Red Mars
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Posted - 2006.10.24 11:03:00 -
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Having spent the last week in Fountain, I have had a few experiences I believe are worth expounding upon.
First, Fountain is indeed rich. At home in Syndicate, I could hope to find patrols of at most two of their battleships, with bounties of less than a million ISK on their heads; here, I routinely find fleets of half a dozen Serpentis, half of them Lord Admirals or Grand Admirals with bounties of a million and a half ISK. I have found Serpentis haulers worth millions of ISK, and were I so minded, the Dark Oche, Bistot, and Crokite ores could line my pockets. Privateers with an eye for profit and the fortitude to weigh profit against risk stand to gain more than a little from a trip to Fountain.
Second, Celestial Apocalypse are not wrong when they say that Fountain Core is liveable space. While Xelas Alliance and Horde members maintain a presence, they appear to have relatively little influence in the systems surrounding YZ-LQL and A-1CON. Indeed, I've seen less conflict in this last week than in any given week in Syndicate, and half of that was brushes with a couple overzealous Celes pod pilots. Disagreements which were, I might add, ironed out. Xelas does move fleets through the area now and then; several days ago, I had a close call evading a fleet of eight or nine Xelas frigates, and I've heard of larger, more robust forces doing battle with Celestial Apocalypse from time to time, but the situational awareness all pilots in unsecured space practice perforce is sufficient to keep one's hull intact.
Prospective Fountaineers should, however, be especially mindful of the journey to Fountain. With mediocre markets at best, much must be brought to pirate hunt or mine effectively, and the lanes to Fountain are anything but safe. I myself sustained several ship losses moving through Cloud Ring and Outer Ring, to Outbreak and Sturmgrenadier gate camps. I found a rack of warp core stabilizers and nanofiber upgrades served me best, with fittings more suitable for combat stowed in the bay, to be installed upon arrival at Foutain core.
Fourtain is not the promised land the old religions speak of, and is not without it's hazards. With Band of Brothers claiming ownership of the area, the area will inevitably see incursions from them, perhaps even lasting a week or more. Though as of yet, the only Band of Brothers pod pilot I've seen myself was deep within a Serpentis complex. Regardless, my sojourn to Fountain has thus far been a most profitable and worthwhile endeavor.
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Deamos
Quintessential Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.24 11:11:00 -
[92]
While I respect CELES's fleet engagement skills, I don't see much coming from the other corporations which have decided to take up their "offer". To anyone who decides to come claim the so called "riches" under the protection of CELES, then prepare to make Fountain your tomb. You can't hide under your mother's apron strings forever. -
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.24 13:30:00 -
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Deamos, thats because they arnt here to fight, i keep saying this. the good people of EVE are here to make isk, LOTS of isk. we want them to run and hide when they see BOB/XS/HORDE and tell us. that way they get to make alot of money and we get fights.
As for the poster above yous comments, we will escort any corp/alliance into Fountain core from hophib if u feel the entry point is hostile. We will even carrier jump supplies and ships in if needed.
The most important part of fountain, YZ/a-1con area is under the authority of celes apoc and our pilots will rush to deal with any danger to our invited corps.
Xelas are VERY weak the now, i know by the mails from certain CEOs in the alliance that they are on their last legs. Not entirely down to our corp, but a mixture of infighting and bad command. i forsee they will hand the outpost over to BOB soon.
Make no mistake of it, Fountain is as close to the promised land as you can get.
d solo.
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.24 13:55:00 -
[94]
Originally by: darth solo Xelas are VERY weak the now, i know by the mails from certain CEOs in the alliance that they are on their last legs. Not entirely down to our corp, but a mixture of infighting and bad command. i forsee they will hand the outpost over to BOB soon.
Caldari Navy Dictionary (issued to all new pod pilots) states that Weakness is defined as: the state or quality of being weak; lack of strength, firmness, vigor, or the like; feebleness.
I see non of these qualities in the Mighty Xelas Alliance, we may have had one corporation within our ranks that fell under this description but they recently left the alliance to become so called "Friends of celestial apoc". As for this so called protection that Celes Apoc offer the pilots in fountain, they may talk big with their propoganda here on the intergalactic message exchange, but I and my fellow alliance members have killed countless pod pilots trespassing in OUR space and I have yet seen any presence of Celes Apoc to 'save' these pilots. Stay down in core Celes all tucked away in your nice free stations, and leave the visitors to fountain to us. YARR! 
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:46:00 -
[95]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/10/2006 14:48:14
Originally by: darth solo
Xelas are VERY weak the now, i know by the mails from certain CEOs in the alliance that they are on their last legs. Not entirely down to our corp, but a mixture of infighting and bad command. i forsee they will hand the outpost over to BOB soon.
Nah, Xelas are still doing fine lad.
Nothing has changed in the last 12 months apart from more outposts from Xelas and BoB (another one has gone up just this week in fountain). Xelas had a minor restructuring after Mitch decided he wanted to move back to corp affairs rather than alliance affairs. He has pretty much now done this and is still working alongside BoB as another close friend and will continue to in the future.
Xelas and the Horde continue to dominate Fountain industrially and logistically and will do so for quite some time yet regardless of what you think you know.
All in all, it's still looking rosy around there. No-one dare make a move on Fountain in any real sense because they are all scared to attempt to take on Xelas, the Horde and us.
I know your guys are still nipping around pirating from the NPC stations but that's about it and make sure you enjoy your role.
But don't be getting ahead of yourself though solo, you're still small caldari clone in a big gene pool.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:59:00 -
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haha,
I most certainly will ;)
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Jeremiah Kane
Demon Womb
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Posted - 2006.10.24 15:59:00 -
[97]
Originally by: R0ot
Originally by: Psycarne I base in a-1. I don't see you there. I see the odd xelas shuttle pass through however, but unfortunately they are a little wiley for my battleships tracking systems.
m8 you must be in A-1IJ9 cause A-1CON has lots of Xelas in it :p
 Yeah... Nah...
From where I'm standing Celes run A-1CON.
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:12:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Jeremiah Kane From where I'm standing Celes run A-1CON.
And from where your standing can you please read me the number of clones you've gone thru since you've left the proud Xelas Alliance, And again for all you trespassers in fountain, Xelas provide a free clone jump service, basicly we target your ship, pop it, then your pod, pop it and hey presto instant clone jump 
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Major Stormer
Caldari Demon Womb
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:13:00 -
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This is my personal opinion, based on what myself, as a pod pilot, has seen in and out of xelas.
Xelas isnt on full control, but neither is celest. Both sides are pretty equal around fountain core, and theres interesting fights for both sides. Xelas is losing more, but thats to be generally expected considering they are not a pvp alliance, and celest is. Overall, its great fun, and not impossable for neutral corps to setup and have fun. Infact it is very possable, but make sure you prepare and plan everything our correctly, and expect to take heavy losses (then if you dont its a nice surprise :) )
Overall, i would say Celest is winning. However becuase Xelas numbers are massive, its doubtful that they will go anywhere soon. Lets remember people, that fountain core is a NPC area, and its almost impossable to drive anyone out once they are settled in.
As for Demon Womb leaving Xelas, we left because of several reasons. As i see it, I personally no longer wished to remain because of bad leadership (I felt it was almost non-existant from Xelas), lack of PVP effort put forward by the alliance (the only time Xelas really really did well and gather a awesome fleet was when BOB buggered Mitch to do something about celest- thats from Mitch himself), I mean after Celest posted version 1 of this, we was ment to camp celest in and outblob them until they got bored, i think we managed 2 nights of that and that was it. Also i was tired of arranging gangs to engage celest and having 4 people turn up, when 200 alliance members are online. They all alts or something?
And finally, I was tired of being BOB's slave corp. Fair deal to them that they need them, I mean they control a massive amount of space, and with their continued amazing pvp efforts they need others to control the systems. But I put in a good 30 hours of work for our outpost, and then I hear that with Dark-Rising handing over leadership to...someone, and reports that BOB will take over the outpost (or COIN, they have been hanging around PNQY for a while now), and I felt sick...I put that time in for a XELAS outpost, and I felt cheated and used. I put them time in becuase I loved my alliance, and after that It was the final straw...And i put my vote in to leave. But i still love fountain...and have no wish to leave the region. Therefore there was no choice but to take up celests offer.
So far, ive found celest to be pretty nice guys. Even when i was in Xelas, they never smacktalked, and it was always "Good fight, great fun" and all that after a fight, if I had killed them or they had killed me. They cost me a LOT of money in ships, but they was always nice about it, and I was able to have a laugh. I dont approve of some of the stuff they do, but thats how they play, and thats perfectly within the game, so im not going to hold it against them.
So far, when my pvp forces have engaged Xelas, we have been met with mostly smacktalk. Mainly from the QUINT corp, they have no nothing but belittle and insult my forces and the corp im in. This is something celest never did. Most of Xelas are nice guys, and remain smacktalk free, however QUINT have lost any respect I have, as a small pilot in the depth of space. If they care ;)
Overall, in the fountain region great fun is to be had by pod pilots of all corps and alliance, be they Xelas, Celest, Horde, or neutral. Xelas will always have my friendship, becuase even thou i considered the alliance to not be for me, I made many friends there, and its nice talking to them,, while blowing eachother up as hard as possable hehe.
Just have fun guys. fountain always has been and likey always will be warzone, however lets keep the fights smackfree, and enjoyable. Noones going anywhere soon, and Im not going to comment on any of the other posts here in this communication channel. This is my opinion, take it or leave it. All I know is, ive got a lot of experance, and a lot of fun, and I hope that contines for all -------------------------- Join Demon Womb! PVP, Rats, Industry, join the fun! |

SirMolle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:31:00 -
[100]
Excuse me? BoB slave corp?
k, if thats what you wish, you just got your wish granted. Forever.
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Gyrn Fzirth
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.24 19:52:00 -
[101]
Originally by: SirMolle Excuse me? BoB slave corp?
k, if thats what you wish, you just got your wish granted. Forever.
As if Xelas were ever anything but bob lapdogs :)
Pointless rhetoric, Sir Molle. ========== CELES Killboard: http://www.celeskills.com
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.24 20:09:00 -
[102]
A very good and well balanced post major stormer, one that tells your side of events from both sides of the fence. Celes are happy that you and your corp have turned from the dark hand of bob/xelas and joined the forces of good in making fountain a free region for all of eve to enjoy.
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Ab Initio
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.24 21:18:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth
Originally by: SirMolle Excuse me? BoB slave corp?
k, if thats what you wish, you just got your wish granted. Forever.
As if Xelas were ever anything but bob lapdogs :)
Pointless rhetoric, Sir Molle.
Believe what you want, Xelas are no lapdogs.
There is nothing but respect between BoB and our brothers in arms, you only need to look at the amount of Xelas members that are now in BoB for proof of that. The relationship between the two entities is one of friendship, and always will be.
Say what you will, but Xelas has outlasted every entity that has tried to lay claim to Fountain since Xelas / BoB occupation.
Your time in Fountain will end like VC, IMP and FA before you. Xelas will be left standing.
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Mitch Taylor
Caldari Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2006.10.24 22:09:00 -
[104]
IN CHARACTER
Originally by: Major Stormer words
I am an old man in relation to the EVE universe, I have seen many great alliances prosper and many great alliances fall.
One factor is constant in all alliances. PVP corps always do well fighting them. The reason for this, with the exception of BOB, most alliances are not really that good at pvp. The whole alliance mentality is not cut out for effective fleet operations. Some alliances have mastered it, but most rely on one or two big corps to prop them up. Celes know this and as such should stop the chest puffing on here, its not a pleasant attribute. Ever heard of being quietly successful? its much cooler!
Leadership of an alliance is always a tricky job. All individual corps have their views and want to feel heard. Whilst sometimes decisive action needs to be taken to ensure an outcome that is for the good of the alliance as a whole.
The members of Xelas will be aware that as the XO I removed the constitution and all forms of democracy under my rule. Whilst privately maintaining a open channel for coaching with individual CEO's. Those corporate leaders that experienced my style of leadership will understand the benefits of showing a strong directive leadership in public but in private softer side.
Within my ranks I had three types of CEO. The first, and most suitable for alliance membership, the followers. Unquestioning obedience. You know who you are and have my corps respect until the end of time. The second, challengers. These CEOS were willing to tell you about the problems, sometimes in great detail! but normally issues can be worked around through discussion. Finally you had the shadow corporations. These ones had a special place in my heart. I spent many hours watching these people and making analysis of their movements, communications and behaviours. These corporations are the most damaging to an alliance. Not necesserily due to their lack of activity, but due to there inability to communicate effectively. The longer you abstain from communication from your leadership the harder it is to eat humble pie and open a convo.
Your corporation decided early in your time with Xelas that you did not like the lack of power your corp held. This has been stated to me by members of your corporation in open conversation. As the leader of the alliance at times I had to pull rank. At this time your corp went into its shell and dissapeared behind MN5. Pshycologists call this behaviour in adults 'child mode' or victim syndrome. The specimen knows they are in a bad situation but refuse to accept any responsibility for their own behaviour.
As your leader I am ultimately responsible for your corps behaviours. Sadly at times you have little time to deal with all issues, if im honest I hoped your corp would change. But regardless I had little time to coach you through your resentment.
In response to your claims I motivated the alliance through threats from BOB. I would like to confirm the following. BOB treated the xelas alliance leadership and memberbase with the upmost respect, a business relationship? yes, friendship? of course.
I response to you leaving the Xelas Alliance to be 'neutral' in fountain. Im afraid this was not a very intelligent move. Your corporation has been set -10 to the xelas alliance and more exciting to me, -10 to my corporation.
Your CEO has dissapointed me with his actions. His words in government channels towards me were not acceptable to me as a leader but more so as a human being.
I will destroy your corporation as recreation for my brave pilots. You will not infect fountain for very long.
Mitch.
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Estarriol
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.24 22:47:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Major Stormer And finally, I was tired of being BOB's slave corp.
You were welcomed in Fountain as friends, and given free rein to fatten yourselves in a resource-rich region. Is that the lot of a slave?
In return, you have betrayed the good will shared, and declared us as hostiles.
We will remember it well.
Quote: ProphetGuru > we gonna Donkeypunch SA
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El'Presedante
Alcoholic White Trash
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Posted - 2006.10.24 22:58:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Ab Initio
Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth
Originally by: SirMolle Excuse me? BoB slave corp?
k, if thats what you wish, you just got your wish granted. Forever.
As if Xelas were ever anything but bob lapdogs :)
Pointless rhetoric, Sir Molle.
Believe what you want, Xelas are no lapdogs.
There is nothing but respect between BoB and our brothers in arms, you only need to look at the amount of Xelas members that are now in BoB for proof of that. The relationship between the two entities is one of friendship, and always will be.
Say what you will, but Xelas has outlasted every entity that has tried to lay claim to Fountain since Xelas / BoB occupation.
Your time in Fountain will end like VC, IMP and FA before you. Xelas will be left standing.
Xelas excists in Fountain soley becuase of BoB. do not try to fool the poor members of Xelas of anything otherwise. I have seen the near fall of xelas several times, both from within the alliance it's self and from commanding supression fleets against it. everytime it entered it's deaththrows the Band of Brothers would rush in to save them. be it keeping insurgents into the base of operations, or harrasing anti POS operations. ( very hard to finish a pos off when 100+ ship fleets arive to ""help"" )
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Kugutsumen
Fountain Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:01:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Mitch Taylor IN CHARACTER Your CEO has dissapointed me with his actions. His words in government channels towards me were not acceptable to me as a leader but more so as a human being.
I will destroy your corporation as recreation for my brave pilots. You will not infect fountain for very long.
Mitch.
Originally by: Mitch Taylor
Originally by: Cartifex Imperator
Originally by: "Adolf ******" The state must not ... let itself be confused by the drivel about so-called freedom of the press .. it must make sure of this instrument of popular education and place it in the service of the state.
QFT
Press freedom begins to disappear in Germany in 1932, the year before Adolf ****** takes power. By 1933, the ****s decree the virtual end of a free press. The government turns editors and journalists into servants of the state. Bureaucrats decide what may be published. Publishers can’t hire or fire journalists. Only the government can.
Thats quite offensive.
I dont think I need to defend my position for removing the forums. I made it quite clear at the CEO's meeting. If no one from your corp was there to represent. Please contact one of your peers within the alliance.
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Jazz Bo
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:23:00 -
[108]
Originally by: DB Preacher
I know your guys are still nipping around pirating from the NPC stations but that's about it and make sure you enjoy your role.
There you go with the "pirating" word again. Didn't you claim that word was meaningless ages ago?
Doesn't matter. Tonight we -once again- went to the Xelas Outpost they call Yoshimi and directed our firepower at it. Xelas and Horde fleets came to the rescue, but were utterly annihilated, with no battleship class vessels lost on our side.
Call that "nipping around pirating from NPC stations" if you will.
Quote: Pew pew... ka-boom.... pew pew... squishhh
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Jeremiah Kane
Demon Womb
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Posted - 2006.10.25 01:35:00 -
[109]
Edited by: Jeremiah Kane on 25/10/2006 01:39:59
Originally by: R0ot
Originally by: Jeremiah Kane From where I'm standing Celes run A-1CON.
And from where your standing can you please read me the number of clones you've gone thru since you've left the proud Xelas Alliance, And again for all you trespassers in fountain, Xelas provide a free clone jump service, basicly we target your ship, pop it, then your pod, pop it and hey presto instant clone jump 
Twice, to the well-honed PvPers of QUINT corporation. Sadly both times I was met only with smacktalk, QUINT may be well-honed but the smacktalk is very unprofessional. I returned for retribution the second time with a small force, but the QUINT forces docked and awaited reinforcements. We left with our cargo load full of gear to be moved from MN5N.
Now ask me how many clones were activated when I was WITH Xelas ... Too many...
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Psycarne
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 02:18:00 -
[110]
Originally by: R0ot
Originally by: Jeremiah Kane From where I'm standing Celes run A-1CON.
And from where your standing can you please read me the number of clones you've gone thru since you've left the proud Xelas Alliance, And again for all you trespassers in fountain, Xelas provide a free clone jump service, basicly we target your ship, pop it, then your pod, pop it and hey presto instant clone jump 
Try as I might, I seem to be exempt from this service  ------------- CELES because making the tough guys cry is funnier.
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Deamos
Quintessential Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.25 06:40:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Jeremiah Kane
Twice, to the well-honed PvPers of QUINT corporation. Sadly both times I was met only with smacktalk, QUINT may be well-honed but the smacktalk is very unprofessional. I returned for retribution the second time with a small force, but the QUINT forces docked and awaited reinforcements. We left with our cargo load full of gear to be moved from MN5N....
Much appreciation on calling us honed. As for the smack coming from me, if you are bothered by it..I will personally cease. Just having a bit of fun in return from the CELES smack.
Look forward to many battles and good fights.
Deamos -
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 07:13:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Jazz Bo
Originally by: DB Preacher
I know your guys are still nipping around pirating from the NPC stations but that's about it and make sure you enjoy your role.
There you go with the "pirating" word again. Didn't you claim that word was meaningless ages ago?
Doesn't matter. Tonight we -once again- went to the Xelas Outpost they call Yoshimi and directed our firepower at it. Xelas and Horde fleets came to the rescue, but were utterly annihilated, with no battleship class vessels lost on our side.
Call that "nipping around pirating from NPC stations" if you will.
Aye, your wee pirate squad did good.
Along with the 150 ASCN dudes who actually did all the work while you nipped around thier heels.
Then you come on chest beating. hmm, I think this may be a bit of deja vu from when Outbreak came to Fountain and did all the work against us.
No shock really, I'm afraid you are still quite insignificant.
Now go prove me wrong by holding the outpost for any length of time.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Sextus Licinius
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 07:25:00 -
[113]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/10/2006 14:48:14
Originally by: darth solo
Xelas are VERY weak the now, i know by the mails from certain CEOs in the alliance that they are on their last legs. Not entirely down to our corp, but a mixture of infighting and bad command. i forsee they will hand the outpost over to BOB soon.
Nah, Xelas are still doing fine lad.
dbp
Sure they are doing fine, they are doing exactly what they're supposed to. Only yesterday when we came to down their outpost, over 90 xelas/horde lost their lives in an attempt to defend it and 47 were killed in a single fleet engagement with a single frig loss on our side.
So keep up the good work, just talk more, keep them mobilized because it seems the more you talk, the more little xelas die.
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Sextus Licinius
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:00:00 -
[114]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Aye, your wee pirate squad did good.
Along with the 150 ASCN dudes who actually did all the work while you nipped around thier heels.
Then you come on chest beating. hmm, I think this may be a bit of deja vu from when Outbreak came to Fountain and did all the work against us.
No shock really, I'm afraid you are still quite insignificant.
Now go prove me wrong by holding the outpost for any length of time.
dbp
Errr can you hear me in the back ...? Guess not, but i'll say it again anyway: We don't fight POS wars !! We-find-it-boring-to-shoot-poses and to set up logistics, do you get me sweetheart?
Dbp you're such a flamer
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:04:00 -
[115]
Bingo Sextus...
That's exactly why last night was nothing to do with Celest in the slightest.
Now shoodle on back to A1-CON and keep up your terrifying reign of that NPC station.

dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Sextus Licinius
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:14:00 -
[116]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 25/10/2006 08:06:10 Bingo Sextus... I only said it to get that exact response from a celest member.
That's exactly why last night was nothing to do with Celest in the slightest. Yes they turned up and looked mean and nasty but in the end, Xelas will take back the outpost and you will do nothing again.
Now shoodle on back to A1-CON and keep up your terrifying piratical reign of that NPC station.

dbp
Hahahahahahaha ya ya sure, Dbp you wanna bet that xelas will disagree with you on this? If i were xelas i swear i would say:
"Dbp err actually CELES killed all of us 2 hours before ASCN got here. They killed over 90 of us and 47 in a single fleet battle. So CELES and ASCN complete themselves, one of them wtfpwning our ships and the other wtfpwning our POSes"
Can i please have a xelas account for 5 minutes  
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:34:00 -
[117]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Jazz Bo
Originally by: DB Preacher
I know your guys are still nipping around pirating from the NPC stations but that's about it and make sure you enjoy your role.
There you go with the "pirating" word again. Didn't you claim that word was meaningless ages ago?
Doesn't matter. Tonight we -once again- went to the Xelas Outpost they call Yoshimi and directed our firepower at it. Xelas and Horde fleets came to the rescue, but were utterly annihilated, with no battleship class vessels lost on our side.
Call that "nipping around pirating from NPC stations" if you will.
Aye, your wee pirate squad did good.
Along with the 150 ASCN dudes who actually did all the work while you nipped around thier heels.
Then you come on chest beating. hmm, I think this may be a bit of deja vu from when Outbreak came to Fountain and did all the work against us.
No shock really, I'm afraid you are still quite insignificant.
Now go prove me wrong by holding the outpost for any length of time.
dbp
u dont know nothing of us anymore, like i dont nothing of u guys anymore.
we had 44 members of celestial apocalypse last night against 2 alliances in fountain. killed easy 20+ intruding XS/horde BS on our land in pnqy in that fight and shot the outpost, we lost 2 frigate class ships.. no1 in eve is better at small scale fleet fights than celes apoc, its our bread and butter.
Knowing the lengh of time it would take to remove the pos we asked our friends in ASCN for help, they came straight away with dreads to add to our own 4 dreads. Your alliance then had a choice, to either help XS or watch them vanish. celes apoc can take XS and horde by themselves, but dont have the firepower to take down all the POS structures, thats no secret. BUT it was us that locked down the system, again.
To be honest, these sorts of gangs isnt something i had in mind for our corp. but one offs arnt a problem.
btw i ate those 2 amarian slaves by myself .
d solo.
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:37:00 -
[118]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 25/10/2006 08:39:46 Excellent, then I look forward to you and ASCN controlling the Outpost together.
You controlling the fleets and ASCN controlling the outpost.
But wait, what's that I hear? Is it ASCN asking every alliance in the game to come and hold it for them? Is it every alliance in the game saying "you're having a laugh"? I believe it is.
ASCN are out of their depth, millions of lightyears away from their home (so much so that some of their podpilots fell asleep en route to the outpost because it was so far). ASCN are going to spend billions on this operation which ultimately will end up straight back under Xelas control the second they leave.
And they will leave, unless they want to live in the Serpentis region, pirating alongside the mighty celest.
What exactly do you think you achieved with this manouver?
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 09:29:00 -
[119]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 25/10/2006 08:39:46
What exactly do you think you achieved with this manouver?
dbp
82 kills on our enemy in pnqy alone by celes apoc yesterday, 20+ of them battleship class. 5 celes apoc loses all frigate class.
4 pos structures into reinforced.
Outpost has no shields.
Xelas and horde alliance refuse to undock.
44 celes apoc members in the operation.
all of the freedom fighters from celestial apocalypse had fun.
who cares how long the area is ours, what we done last night cannot be taken away, we prove we ARE the law in fountain. if anyone is out of depth its xelas and horde.
what did you do last night?
d solo.
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Jazz Bo
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 09:31:00 -
[120]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Jazz Bo
Originally by: DB Preacher
I know your guys are still nipping around pirating from the NPC stations but that's about it and make sure you enjoy your role.
There you go with the "pirating" word again. Didn't you claim that word was meaningless ages ago?
Doesn't matter. Tonight we -once again- went to the Xelas Outpost they call Yoshimi and directed our firepower at it. Xelas and Horde fleets came to the rescue, but were utterly annihilated, with no battleship class vessels lost on our side.
Call that "nipping around pirating from NPC stations" if you will.
Aye, your wee pirate squad did good.
Along with the 150 ASCN dudes who actually did all the work while you nipped around thier heels.
Then you come on chest beating. hmm, I think this may be a bit of deja vu from when Outbreak came to Fountain and did all the work against us.
No shock really, I'm afraid you are still quite insignificant.
Now go prove me wrong by holding the outpost for any length of time.
dbp
Stop pretending you know anything. Your attemps at spin control and tired propaganda are not fooling anyone.
Celes held the system down alone for several hours, while two alliances threw ship after ship at us. Ascn only jumped their ships in after the system was safe, as their support fleet was still en route.
Yes, we needed the Ascn Capital fleet to take the POS down, everyone knows we don't have the hardware or the inclination for POS wars. You can try to wring more smack talk about it, we really don't mind or care.
As for what will happen to the Outpost, time will tell.
Quote: Pew pew... ka-boom.... pew pew... squishhh
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 09:42:00 -
[121]
This has a bigger picture
The alliance BOB either come back to Fountain to help XS, thus giving ASCN breathing space or they let XS die, because all that XS have is the outpost. They could always hire mercs to do this but either way it will open another front. a drain on resources.
For our corp it means BOB come back and we get to fight who we enjoy fighting, (XS actually think we are afraid of fighting BOB, hehe)or We end the tale of xelas sorry existance in Fountain.
Also if BOB do not come back and leave XS to die then XS surelly would not continue to be allied with BOB, thus weakening BOB again.
Xelas still have a choice, they can accept the terms we have put down. this offer wont last long.
Oh my... the plot thickens. choices must be made.
Iv made it so whatever happens we will come out winning, now thats masterfull. sometimes i amaze myself.
d solo.
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Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 09:53:00 -
[122]
I always liked Fountain.
Hell, thats where I got to be first target when EVOL tried to take Fountain over back in 10something.
¼+¼ a history
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 10:10:00 -
[123]
Darth, as always, you fail to see the bigger picture.
Watch and learn son, watch and learn.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 10:30:00 -
[124]
Originally by: DB Preacher [ASCN BSes] Do you feel you lost them in a worthwhile cause or were your ships simply thrown away in a fit of negligence? I had a quick look at your Geddon loss and it was lost along with 18 other Battleships for no kills.
K/L ratio may not be the ultimate goal in this war, nor in any alliance war but as long as you are happy getting killed due to ridiculous FC'ing decisions and terrible gangmates then I'm happy to sit on the other side and lay waste to your alliance along with my mates.
And for that reason alone, I hope this war never ends.
dbp
Originally by: DB Preacher ASCN are afraid to use their dreads in the open. We use our dreads in the open.
Says it all really.
dbp
Originally by: DB Preacher
Along with the 150 ASCN dudes who actually did all the work while you nipped around thier heels.
dbp
Damn you dpb you mean person now you have me all confused 
- Gob
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 10:45:00 -
[125]
Pulling up a quote about dreads not being used (which they hadn't been at the time) is pretty damn silly. Congrats, you showed your dreadnoughts. You showed them about 650 jumps from anywhere to put some large towers into reinforced. Large towers which you may destroy but in a system you simply can't hold. congrats, I tip my hat off to you.
Meanwhile, another BoB pos was laid down in another one of your systems while your last attempt at doing anything was removed... the last pos in TCAG is now gone.
As for the other 2 quotes, was there a point there somewhere? I must have missed it.
To this point, your BS have been needlessly thrown away. How many ASCN BS did you have last night in Fountain? None? Yes, thought so, the quote is completely and utterly irrelevant.
As for the last quote, you had 150 dudes in fountain doing some hard work putting an alliance not involved in the conflict's towers into reinforced. Congrats.
If that is the ASCN master plan then excuse us while we head over to LV space and take a random outpost. No wait, that won't do anything at all except waste billions of isk.
So what exactly was your point there gobby?
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 10:57:00 -
[126]
your numbers are way off DBP, but counting has never been ur strong point .
local was 89 with no ASCN.. celes apoc completely held PNQY at that time. ASCN jumped in and local was 150. maybe ur scouts just couted local, or XS tried to make it more than it was, but whatever it was, its not true.
d solo.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 10:59:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Goberth Ludwig on 25/10/2006 11:01:50
Originally by: DB Preacher
So what exactly was your point there gobby?
dbp
That one moment you picture us as the total pvp sh*t and the next we supposedly have "done all the work while they were nipping on our heels" for an excellent pvp corp that judging from the killboards you like to mention so much and the vids we have all seen, is more than able to stand up to the average bob fleet.

- Gob
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 11:01:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig That one moment you picture us as the total pvp sh*t and the next we supposedly have "done all the work while they were nipping on our heels" for an excellent pvp corp that judging from the killboards you like to mention so much and the vids we have all seen, is more than able to stand up to the average bob fleet.

You blobbed 1 system and shot some pos while Celest looked on.
Like I said above, congrats.
Now finish taking the outpost and then hold it.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 11:03:00 -
[129]
Yes... but, basically... do we suck or not? I'm just asking for a bit of clarity 
- Gob
[IXC] Admiral Goberius |

Bretonia
Gallente Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 11:05:00 -
[130]
Originally by: DB Preacher Pulling up a quote about dreads not being used (which they hadn't been at the time) is pretty damn silly. Congrats, you showed your dreadnoughts. You showed them about 650 jumps from anywhere to put some large towers into reinforced. Large towers which you may destroy but in a system you simply can't hold. congrats, I tip my hat off to you.
Meanwhile, another BoB pos was laid down in another one of your systems while your last attempt at doing anything was removed... the last pos in TCAG is now gone.
As for the other 2 quotes, was there a point there somewhere? I must have missed it.
To this point, your BS have been needlessly thrown away. How many ASCN BS did you have last night in Fountain? None? Yes, thought so, the quote is completely and utterly irrelevant.
As for the last quote, you had 150 dudes in fountain doing some hard work putting an alliance not involved in the conflict's towers into reinforced. Congrats.
If that is the ASCN master plan then excuse us while we head over to LV space and take a random outpost. No wait, that won't do anything at all except waste billions of isk.
So what exactly was your point there gobby?
dbp
LOL Someone touch a nerve sir? 
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Riddari
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 11:19:00 -
[131]
Originally by: DB Preacher As for the last quote, you had 150 dudes in fountain doing some hard work putting an alliance not involved in the conflict's towers into reinforced. Congrats.
If that is the ASCN master plan then excuse us while we head over to LV space and take a random outpost. No wait, that won't do anything at all except waste billions of isk.
Hi DB.
We are thinking of the big picture.
Bye DB.
¼+¼ a history
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 11:38:00 -
[132]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 25/10/2006 11:38:34
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Yes... but, basically... do we suck or not? I'm just asking for a bit of clarity 
Depends completely on the context and I already stated what I wanted to say before.
Just to clarify, I said congrats for the PNQ manouver from a militaristic point of view but not congrats for the usefulness of the manouver.
The congrats on the militaristic point of view does not change the fact that nothing I have seen from ASCN as an alliance in my time in the war has shown anything but negliegent decisions, BS thrown away, terrible pvp'ing and hundreds of peeps hiding in pos.
I sincerely hope that this is the turning point for ASCN and they start to be a bit more organised than the hilarity that I have seen in this past two weeks and heard of throughout the rest of the war.
So, like I also said above, finish taking the outpost and hold it and you will have achieved a goal.
At this point, I am not convinced that HC has actually thought that goal through instead they are still running around like headless chickens achieving very little... in the bigger picture.
However, it is an interesting play and one I look forward to seeing the conclusion of. I just hope poor mr ascn punter doesn't get too bored sitting in Aridia while we go and take AZN.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Jazz Bo
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 11:46:00 -
[133]
Originally by: DB Preacher
However, it is an interesting play and one I look forward to seeing the conclusion of. I just hope poor mr ascn punter doesn't get too bored sitting in Aridia while we go and take AZN.
dbp
So you have no plans to come defend "your" region (according to the alliance map that is)?
All those Xelas guys saying "Bob will come and kick your ass" will be so disappointed.
And so will we to be honest. All work and no play makes us sad.
And now for something completely different... anyone want to buy an Outpost, slighty used but in good condition?
Quote: Pew pew... ka-boom.... pew pew... squishhh
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 11:49:00 -
[134]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 25/10/2006 11:50:13 Watch and learn Jazz.
Enjoy the hard work in the meantime but if I were you, I'd get your buddies in ASCN to get their pos sorted out asap.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Renox
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 11:59:00 -
[135]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 25/10/2006 11:50:13 Watch and learn Jazz.
Enjoy the hard work in the meantime but if I were you, I'd get your buddies in ASCN to get their pos sorted out asap.
dbp
Can't wait to see it, what ever you or Xelas has planned. A bit more fighting in our neck of the woods would be appriciated.
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TWD
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 13:34:00 -
[136]
Celestial Apocalypse remind me of a little kid throwing smalls rocks from a distance, running as fast as he can when we approach him and then do it again later on. Not really a problem, but a minor annoyance. |

Yasser CrackerJack
Caldari KVA Noble Inc. THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2006.10.25 14:20:00 -
[137]
Xelas and Horde refusing to undock darth solo? new one to me, Horde dont have docking rights at xelas outpost as far as I am aware at least.
I dont know what happended in the first engagement between you, xelas, and the Horde, but i do know is we had another gang that pestered outside pnq. As I was aprt of that. Im not flaming, just making it clear to anyone else that reads this that the quote regarding horde remained docked is total rubbish. I cant comment for Xelas.
But Good move guys, how much is the outpost going for, I would like to start a sheep/lapdance/strip joint. I am looking for a partner in the business to.
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 15:15:00 -
[138]
Edited by: darth solo on 25/10/2006 15:16:08
Originally by: Yasser *****erJack Xelas and Horde refusing to undock darth solo? new one to me, Horde dont have docking rights at xelas outpost as far as I am aware at least.
I dont know what happended in the first engagement between you, xelas, and the Horde, but i do know is we had another gang that pestered outside pnq. As I was aprt of that. Im not flaming, just making it clear to anyone else that reads this that the quote regarding horde remained docked is total rubbish. I cant comment for Xelas.
But Good move guys, how much is the outpost going for, I would like to start a sheep/lapdance/strip joint. I am looking for a partner in the business to.
Then i apologise, i admit when im wrong, but u have to understand that u all look the same to me, i very rarely know if its XS or horde.
it will be interesting to see what will happen laters, but whatever it is im sure it will only be positive for celes apoc.
to the xelas in local in pnqy, keep smacking the lads, it puts fire in their belly. d solo.
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Fuglife
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 15:46:00 -
[139]
Aww Dbp do you need a tissue fella?
Must be tragic for you and your epeen that your mighty alliance lost an outpost in there own region to a small pirate corp basing out of npc stations.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 15:54:00 -
[140]
excuse me, bob lost an outpost? where plz?
i personnaly find it pretty funny that ascn has to attack our allies in order to avoid loosing battles, but i guess i shouldnt b surprised.
- Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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FASSIN TAC
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Posted - 2006.10.25 15:57:00 -
[141]
Edited by: FASSIN TAC on 25/10/2006 15:58:21
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Fuglife
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 16:00:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists excuse me, bob lost an outpost? where plz?
i personnaly find it pretty funny that ascn has to attack our allies in order to avoid loosing battles, but i guess i shouldnt b surprised.
Coin were going to take it thats why you brought 4 freighters up right?
Granted it was a xelas outpost in bob space. So if your refering to me i could have worded it better.
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Assens Letta
The Huns THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2006.10.25 16:07:00 -
[143]
Originally by: darth solo Then i apologise, i admit when im wrong, but u have to understand that u all look the same to me, i very rarely know if its XS or horde.
maybe u could update your killboard with the correct corporations in the alliance, maybe that way u could figure which corp. belongs where and which alliance u guys are fighting, we certainly separate Celestial from their pack dogs that roam fountain (and usually end up in the doggy graveyard)
Originally by: Fuglife Aww Dbp do you need a tissue fella? Must be tragic for you and your epeen that your mighty alliance lost an outpost in there own region to a small pirate corp basing out of npc stations.
is it the "small pirate corp." that has conquered the outpost? last time I checked Celes did not conquer anything. as far as The Huns and Horde can view things a collective force of ASCN and a few subsidiary goons formed to do that, but hey its all in the game, donĘt go around jumping in happiness dear Celes, u are worthy foes, we have had good fights yes, but in none of them Celes has proved to have the manpower to take more than a few badly defended POS and let alone to conquer an outpost from XS.
donĘt take this as propaganda; we arenĘt the ones bragging about conquering outposts and totally forgetting that maybe... just maybe... ASCN might have given a "little hand" in that. so stop all this propaganda nonsense and letĘs get real. that outpost WILL be taken back. u may have won the battle, lets wait for the outcome of the war shall we? 
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Dynast
Knights of Red Mars
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Posted - 2006.10.25 16:11:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists excuse me, bob lost an outpost? where plz?
i personnaly find it pretty funny that ascn has to attack our allies in order to avoid loosing battles, but i guess i shouldnt b surprised.
You gotta look at the Big Picture, man. The most aggressive members of your alliance, your comm-link spamming propaganda squad, are being drawn out of position! Every moment that passes without sufficient flooding of GalNet with new supposedly true ASCN scandals, "morale issues", and similar vitriol, is a moment during which someone might notice that the pendulum has swung firmly into Period Basis.
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SARPIDON
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 16:16:00 -
[145]
Hmmm..seems like db is covering most of this one, Maybe its a little to sensitive to let the dogs out db, they might spoil the conTROLLed responce thingy you got going on... Dont get me wrong, I admire the cool, calm not bothered attitude you are displaying, Remember, If you can keep yr head when all around you are losing their heads ( stations) etc. Leadership qualities such as these are very important when firing up the troops and giving them purpose, lets just hope Xelas are reading.
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 16:27:00 -
[146]
DB's disingenuous rationalisations do not fail to amuse as usual. Keep it up DB those outbursts had us in hysterics.
I don't know what was funnier, the innane attempt at a cryptic threat, or the little fairy tale about celes yapping around people's ankles, or whatever it was. Anything to evade reality. -----------------
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Fuglife
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 16:35:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Plim DB's disingenuous rationalisations do not fail to amuse as usual. Keep it up DB those outbursts had us in hysterics.
I don't know what was funnier, the innane attempt at a cryptic threat, or the little fairy tale about celes yapping around people's ankles, or whatever it was. Anything to evade reality.
Gee plim your going like its your birthday. ---
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 16:39:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists excuse me, bob lost an outpost? where plz?
i personnaly find it pretty funny that ascn has to attack our allies in order to avoid loosing battles, but i guess i shouldnt b surprised.
What exactly does ally mean to you sorry? Didnt see many bob supporting your "allies" rex 
- Gob
[IXC] Admiral Goberius |

Keldon Pax
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 16:46:00 -
[149]
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 25/10/2006 11:38:34
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Yes... but, basically... do we suck or not? I'm just asking for a bit of clarity 
Depends completely on the context and I already stated what I wanted to say before.
Just to clarify, I said congrats for the PNQ manouver from a militaristic point of view but not congrats for the usefulness of the manouver.
The congrats on the militaristic point of view does not change the fact that nothing I have seen from ASCN as an alliance in my time in the war has shown anything but negliegent decisions, BS thrown away, terrible pvp'ing and hundreds of peeps hiding in pos.
I sincerely hope that this is the turning point for ASCN and they start to be a bit more organised than the hilarity that I have seen in this past two weeks and heard of throughout the rest of the war.
So, like I also said above, finish taking the outpost and hold it and you will have achieved a goal.
At this point, I am not convinced that HC has actually thought that goal through instead they are still running around like headless chickens achieving very little... in the bigger picture.
However, it is an interesting play and one I look forward to seeing the conclusion of. I just hope poor mr ascn punter doesn't get too bored sitting in Aridia while we go and take AZN.
dbp
In my millitary career if there is one thing I have learnt is that amateurs study tatics , But the Pros study Logistics. Have a nice day now.
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Califax Oman
Mining Bytes Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.25 16:50:00 -
[150]
Edited by: Califax Oman on 25/10/2006 16:53:31
*Tosses on the flame suit and jumps into the blaze*
Bob who owns fountian (thats what the map says, if ya don't like it go get it changed on the map thread) offered a place for Xelas and Horde to live and enjoy the game. I can not go into the how or why these things came about because I haven't been in Xelas but for a couple months. While I was there with my corp, not once did Bob command us to do anything, not once did i mine to build Bob stuff, not once did i recieve anything but friendship from Bob. So the Bob lapdog thing is just funny.
Xelas and Horde are not Huge PvP come kick your teeth in and steal your babies type allaince. So whats wrong with having some friends that you get allong with hanging out in your space? Just because my pew pew isn't as big as thier pew pew doesn't make us bad people. Its a game, you play with who you get along with.
I just like to have a good time when I log in 
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 17:21:00 -
[151]
Game on
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Tasha Feza'Cuiri
Caldarians Pride THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2006.10.25 17:21:00 -
[152]
Isn't it funny? On the one side you tell everyone how weak and defenceless we are and on the other you brag yourselves with conquering Xelas' outpost with the help of ~20 ASCN capital ships + BS + support.
Celes claims to fight for the underdogs, for the weak and defenceless and then attacks Xelas and Horde they call all that.
Coming back to reality I only see some pirategankfleets rushing trough and running in the moment they see a countergang being formed.
I respect Celes for their pvp abilities and really love to learn from them (because I don't claim to be uber pvper), but I really don't like them distorting reality in the galnet.
We will see where we'll be in some weeks mates. At least respect for attacking the outpost. As I said it's your performance I respect not your writings in galnet. Do not call up what you cannot put down.
Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!"
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 17:25:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Kaleeb Game on
Indeedy.
Let's see who owns the station at the end of the war for PNQ, huh?
If it's XELAS/HORDE, would Darth make a formal apology to them?
If it's Celest/ASCN I'll happily get down and say that yep, Celest/ASCN deserve the outpost.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Fuglife
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 17:55:00 -
[154]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Kaleeb Game on
Indeedy.
Let's see who owns the station at the end of the war for PNQ, huh?
If it's XELAS/HORDE, would Darth make a formal apology to them?
If it's Celest/ASCN I'll happily get down and say that yep, Celest/ASCN deserve the outpost.
dbp
Fair enough dbp  ---
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:48:00 -
[155]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Kaleeb Game on
Indeedy.
Let's see who owns the station at the end of the war for PNQ, huh?
If it's XELAS/HORDE, would Darth make a formal apology to them?
If it's Celest/ASCN I'll happily get down and say that yep, Celest/ASCN deserve the outpost.
dbp
If xelas and Horde get that outpost back by themselves sure then you would prob see an appology, why would we appologise to them if bob took it back? 
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Tomic
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:53:00 -
[156]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Kaleeb Game on
Indeedy.
Let's see who owns the station at the end of the war for PNQ, huh?
If it's XELAS/HORDE, would Darth make a formal apology to them?
If it's Celest/ASCN I'll happily get down and say that yep, Celest/ASCN deserve the outpost.
dbp
Lol, this made me laugh.
Lets just say I wont hold my breath until that happens DB, judging by all your posts so far, it'll just be more spin on the topic.
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Emeline Cabernet
Amarr KVA Noble Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:44:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Tomic
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Kaleeb Game on
Indeedy.
Let's see who owns the station at the end of the war for PNQ, huh?
If it's XELAS/HORDE, would Darth make a formal apology to them?
If it's Celest/ASCN I'll happily get down and say that yep, Celest/ASCN deserve the outpost.
dbp
Lol, this made me laugh.
Lets just say I wont hold my breath until that happens DB, judging by all your posts so far, it'll just be more spin on the topic.
wow... someones comed out of there ss...
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 20:30:00 -
[158]
all in all this just makes everything more interesting.
im sure even my best buds from BOB like some drama .
d solo.
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SARPIDON
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 23:41:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Blacklight Looks like it's going to be a fun weekend, we'll be seeing you.
You goin somewhere? so soon, oh well.....
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Sextus Licinius
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.26 06:32:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Kaleeb
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Kaleeb Game on
Indeedy.
Let's see who owns the station at the end of the war for PNQ, huh?
If it's XELAS/HORDE, would Darth make a formal apology to them?
If it's Celest/ASCN I'll happily get down and say that yep, Celest/ASCN deserve the outpost.
dbp
If xelas and Horde get that outpost back by themselves sure then you would prob see an appology, why would we appologise to them if bob took it back? 
I think Xelas already took the outpost back so Kaleeb and Fug start appologizing, i'll sit and watch while you do it ya i'm into that. Why would you two think is so hard to take an outpost with no soverignity in the system is beyond me.
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.26 07:19:00 -
[161]
Let's wait and see who owns it at the end.
No need for apologies yet, there is a loooooong way to go.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Raznarok
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.26 09:26:00 -
[162]
Hi guys.
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Mr Revenge
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Posted - 2006.10.26 10:38:00 -
[163]
boobies?
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Kinsy
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.26 10:55:00 -
[164]
Its ping pong time until the 5 days are up and sov takes affect. Meantime we'll have it back in a few hours and Xelas will start dying again 
The fact that they can't do it head-on...I didnt come here to sit for 5 hours doing nothing. I came for a fight. We'll fight for it, the fighty bit is all were here for, but were not robots, getting a fleet organised at 5am when you've got 8 hours of work starting at 9 isn't my idea of fun, infact its L-A-M-E.
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.26 11:11:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Kinsy Its ping pong time until the 5 days are up and sov takes affect. Meantime we'll have it back in a few hours and Xelas will start dying again 
The fact that they can't do it head-on...I didnt come here to sit for 5 hours doing nothing. I came for a fight. We'll fight for it, the fighty bit is all were here for, but were not robots, getting a fleet organised at 5am when you've got 8 hours of work starting at 9 isn't my idea of fun, infact its L-A-M-E.
Eve is about much more than pirating a system for a few hours in the evening.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Mitch Taylor
Caldari Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2006.10.26 11:13:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Kinsy Its ping pong time until the 5 days are up and sov takes affect. Meantime we'll have it back in a few hours and Xelas will start dying again 
The fact that they can't do it head-on...I didnt come here to sit for 5 hours doing nothing. I came for a fight. We'll fight for it, the fighty bit is all were here for, but were not robots, getting a fleet organised at 5am when you've got 8 hours of work starting at 9 isn't my idea of fun, infact its L-A-M-E.
Welcome to the world of station taking/holding. If you want to keep it you have to do these things. I predict celes new found interest in station holding will change the moment its member base realises that they just wanna pvp again.
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Shariona
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.26 14:21:00 -
[167]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Kinsy Its ping pong time until the 5 days are up and sov takes affect. Meantime we'll have it back in a few hours and Xelas will start dying again 
The fact that they can't do it head-on...I didnt come here to sit for 5 hours doing nothing. I came for a fight. We'll fight for it, the fighty bit is all were here for, but were not robots, getting a fleet organised at 5am when you've got 8 hours of work starting at 9 isn't my idea of fun, infact its L-A-M-E.
Eve is about much more than pirating a system for a few hours in the evening.
dbp
I think EVE isnt much more then a game you play when you get home from work or school.
GOD is busy Can i help you?
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.26 16:28:00 -
[168]
Congrats xelas on taking the station back on your own it reminds me alot of my time in the 5 when RA would take out pos/stations at times we couldnt respond.
So here is my appology for underestimating you, however I still maintain that when celes have members online (prime time) you wouldnt take it back.
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.26 17:40:00 -
[169]
*sigh* RP forum you nooooobs. -----------------
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.26 17:58:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Kaleeb So here is my appology for underestimating you, however I still maintain that when celes have members online (prime time) you wouldnt take it back.
...and we all know you and ASCN will either a) get spanked or b) run for the hills when we arrive.
I am loving what Celes has become though the irony of your chest beating and GalNet spamming is intensely amusing, you've become BoB-Light, congratulations!
http://drunkenwanderingsthroughspace.blogspot.com
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Alfragide
Nova Lusitania THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2006.10.26 18:34:00 -
[171]
Celes: 1-Plz do check ur killboard alliances they are wrong or out-of-date. 2-I know we in The Horde aren't that many but when a few of us enter a system with a few of u , we get ur attention and also the other way around. I personally respect the gifts of Celes in PVP and have to say that i learned a lot since our arrival in Fountain from u guys, and that ur training us to become even better PVP players by the day not to mention (apart)/me spices this booring speech ur log off's tactics.
3 - We prodly fight with Xelas any day BUT we are an independent Alliance in BOB's territory (our view , whatever). We are no better or worst then Xelas - We are diferent not Xelas, only defending ,in general view ,the same part of space hence claiming at least that respect from u guys which was showend by many of ur players.
4 - No disrespect for numbers ASCN , but if u had half of pilots fighting like Celes u would own not fountain but all of eve (not counting with BOB) - KISShewkwefASS - and could dissmiss the other half. For what i saw from ,ok , few fights u do need the numbers cus lets face it , it was trashy . And ur hearing it from a not so noob but still a noob guy pvp wise.
5 - Catch u this weekend i hope and lets all just have some good times playing eve. RESPECT AvT Nova LustitGnia |

Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.26 18:39:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Kaleeb So here is my appology for underestimating you, however I still maintain that when celes have members online (prime time) you wouldnt take it back.
...and we all know you and ASCN will either a) get spanked or b) run for the hills when we arrive.
I am loving what Celes has become though the irony of your chest beating and GalNet spamming is intensely amusing, you've become BoB-Light, congratulations!
So chest beating and spamming = BoB?  -----------------
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Renox
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.26 19:00:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Alfragide Celes: 1-Plz do check ur killboard alliances they are wrong or out-of-date....
I believe we track alliances by means provided by Galnet which do seem quite out of date.
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Black Napallm
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.26 20:01:00 -
[174]
Bla Bla Bla blablablablablabla
remember what the post was originally for
I made loads of isk here already and still got to kill loads of players, the faction ships spawn like mad too!
Welcome to Fountain all brave pilots!
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Kittamaru
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Posted - 2006.10.27 00:30:00 -
[175]
SO MUCH TALKING
Why can't we all just get along? After all, it worked for Kirk.
Diplomacy- a Phaser and a Smile
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.27 01:11:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Kittamaru SO MUCH TALKING
Why can't we all just get along? After all, it worked for Kirk.
Diplomacy- a Phaser and a Smile
Who is this Kirk individual, and is he looking for recruitment? -----------------
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Kittamaru
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Posted - 2006.10.27 01:52:00 -
[177]
Nah, he's too old at this point. Got fat and out of shape.
Though his replacement, Picard, might be. Has a kickass ship to. Mjolnir torpedos? PFFT! He has fracking QUANTUM torpedos baby! Pulse lasers? Nah! He has PHASERS!
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Major Stormer
Caldari Demon Womb
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Posted - 2006.10.27 11:54:00 -
[178]
I TOLD you to stop watching those old Earth shows kitt. -------------------------- Join Demon Womb! PVP, Rats, Industry, join the fun! |

Kittamaru
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Posted - 2006.10.27 17:21:00 -
[179]
But their FUUUUN!
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Airborne Infantry
Quintessential Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.27 18:47:00 -
[180]
Edited by: Airborne Infantry on 27/10/2006 18:48:03 In Character Just an observation:
Celestial Apoc states that they are the "Good Guy", Then why is it alot of there members have Neg. Sec rating? In my book having a very Neg. sec rating indicates not being such a "Good Guy". Please dont take my word for it do the research yourself. Yes you can come to Fountain but before you do you may want to check the facts and the fact is that Celestial Apoc are not the "Good Guys" they are just a bunch of pirates in white cloaks.
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.27 18:50:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Airborne Infantry
Celestial Apoc states that they are the "Good Guy", Then why is it alot of there members have Neg. Sec rating?
Because we recently recruited alot of ex pirates who havent fixed their sec rating yet, just because they have a neg sec doesnt mean they pirate
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Airborne Infantry
Quintessential Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.27 18:58:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Kaleeb
Originally by: Airborne Infantry
Celestial Apoc states that they are the "Good Guy", Then why is it alot of there members have Neg. Sec rating?
Because we recently recruited alot of ex pirates who havent fixed their sec rating yet, just because they have a neg sec doesnt mean they pirate
Once a Pirate always a Pirate!!!
And there in no such thing as an anomoly!!!
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.28 00:28:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Airborne Infantry
Originally by: Kaleeb
Originally by: Airborne Infantry
Celestial Apoc states that they are the "Good Guy", Then why is it alot of there members have Neg. Sec rating?
Because we recently recruited alot of ex pirates who havent fixed their sec rating yet, just because they have a neg sec doesnt mean they pirate
Once a Pirate always a Pirate!!!
And there in no such thing as an anomoly!!!
Well your pirate point maybe true but if 1 of our members starts pirating then he will be asked to leave and thankyou very much for the anomoly comment it makes me feel alot better when u admit that when we beat bob it isnt a anomoly 
Originally by: Blacklight
Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
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Major Stormer
Caldari Demon Womb
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Posted - 2006.10.28 01:42:00 -
[184]
I used to pirate. I dont anymore. I might in the future.
Depends on my corp at the time. -------------------------- Join Demon Womb! PVP, Rats, Industry, join the fun! |

Gyrn Fzirth
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.29 05:54:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Kaleeb
Originally by: Airborne Infantry
Originally by: Kaleeb
Originally by: Airborne Infantry
Celestial Apoc states that they are the "Good Guy", Then why is it alot of there members have Neg. Sec rating?
Because we recently recruited alot of ex pirates who havent fixed their sec rating yet, just because they have a neg sec doesnt mean they pirate
Once a Pirate always a Pirate!!!
And there in no such thing as an anomoly!!!
Well your pirate point maybe true but if 1 of our members starts pirating then he will be asked to leave and thankyou very much for the anomoly comment it makes me feel alot better when u admit that when we beat bob it isnt a anomoly 
He probably doesn't realize that is a direct quote - spelling included - of blacklight, CEO of Black Nova Corp of BoB alliance :) ========== CELES Killboard: http://www.celeskills.com
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Arl
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.29 08:21:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Blacklight To be honest any good corps wanting to use the Fountain region should just apply to Xelas or The Horde, it'd be far safer in the long run, it would get you into a group who will actually support you and you'd be able to participate in 0.0 life as part of an alliance.
Celes are only inviting you in as non-alliance corps to wind up BoB, which is an admirably amusing concept but will ultimately end in you dying a lot.
Remember Celes have a history of being useless, of bailing out of anything difficult, of not supporting their friends and of never sticking it out as part of a group of corps, they'll help you about as much as the Amarr Emporer wants to help the free Minmatar.
There are ways to get into 0.0 space and be welcome there without being duped by a pirate corp like Celes.
Ironic quote itt.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.29 12:23:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Arl
Originally by: Blacklight To be honest any good corps wanting to use the Fountain region should just apply to Xelas or The Horde, it'd be far safer in the long run, it would get you into a group who will actually support you and you'd be able to participate in 0.0 life as part of an alliance.
Celes are only inviting you in as non-alliance corps to wind up BoB, which is an admirably amusing concept but will ultimately end in you dying a lot.
Remember Celes have a history of being useless, of bailing out of anything difficult, of not supporting their friends and of never sticking it out as part of a group of corps, they'll help you about as much as the Amarr Emporer wants to help the free Minmatar.
There are ways to get into 0.0 space and be welcome there without being duped by a pirate corp like Celes.
Ironic quote itt.
I see what you did there.
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