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Mark Androcius
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Posted - 2015.02.20 10:28:46 -
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Not a whine threat or anything, but I was wondering, what the bloody F is wrong with some people?
1 week ago: Dude uses 125M ISK fitted Brutix to gank a 81M ISK worth Indy boat.
Today: Dude uses a fully T2 fitted Tornado to gank a Badger worth 8M ISK.
I have been hearing stuff like this a lot lately and I was just wondering, what is wrong in the heads of these people? I mean, the Tornado's guns alone are more expensive then the kill.
Once again, not a whine thread (I wasn't the target anyway), just wondering.
If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
15041
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Posted - 2015.02.20 10:30:12 -
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gonna need the killmails to tell you why it happened.
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
BFG Tech
178
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Posted - 2015.02.20 10:33:22 -
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He probably had the safety set to red and forgot he was back in highsec after a roam in lowsec. It happens very easily.
Dominique Vasilkovsky EVEboard
Once known as:
Mashie Saldana sold - Anastasia Rigel sold - Monica Foulkes sold
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Auduin Ituin
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2015.02.20 10:35:04 -
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Other than what Dominique said:
Brutix: Maybe he doesn't have decent drone skills, so it outperforms the vexor for isk:dps. Tornado: Scanning is effort or he read something wrong on the cargo scan and thought it was valuable. Or got cargo scans mixed up. |

Mark Androcius
187
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Posted - 2015.02.20 10:38:32 -
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Auduin Ituin wrote:Other than what Dominique said:
Brutix: Maybe he doesn't have decent drone skills, so it outperforms the vexor for isk:dps. Tornado: Scanning is effort or he read something wrong on the cargo scan and thought it was valuable. Or got cargo scans mixed up.
The kill is not on EVE-Kill yet, but that badger was actually empty, which made us lol quite hard.
If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
15041
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Posted - 2015.02.20 10:42:37 -
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Ok so I found three badgers that were ganked by a nado today. All three had poor to anti-tank setups and all three had 400-470 million in the hold.
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Mark Androcius
187
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Posted - 2015.02.20 10:43:52 -
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baltec1 wrote:Ok so I found three badgers that were ganked by a nado today. All three had poor to anti-tank setups and all three had 400-470 million in the hold.
https://beta.eve-kill.net/character/990840741/
this is the ganker, still hasen't updated though.
If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?
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Auduin Ituin
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2015.02.20 10:44:10 -
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baltec1 wrote:Ok so I found three badgers that were ganked by a nado today. All three had poor to anti-tank setups and all three had 400-470 million in the hold. Yeah, based on what he said it's not up yet.. He could manually submit it though. |

Mark Androcius
187
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Posted - 2015.02.20 10:46:13 -
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https://beta.eve-kill.net/kill/44734532/
There we go
If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?
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Ro Fenrios
Armilies corporation Skeleton Crew.
50
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Posted - 2015.02.20 10:47:29 -
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When I get back to hisec, I first see the local and be like 'dem many neuts!' Then I see ship land next to me and little excited and aroused, I lock it up, only to notice that there are gate guns around. Somehow after being long time in null, it just feels so... Different to be back on high. Too many neuts.. Need to go back. |
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Auduin Ituin
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2015.02.20 10:51:08 -
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Mark Androcius wrote:https://beta.eve-kill.net/kill/44734532/
There we go lol popping, revenge, mis read (he could've been scanning a couple of ships and got the scans mixed up)m, misfire. Can't think of anything else, but lolpopping seems pretty high chance. |

Mark Androcius
187
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Posted - 2015.02.20 10:57:19 -
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Auduin Ituin wrote:Mark Androcius wrote:https://beta.eve-kill.net/kill/44734532/
There we go lol popping, revenge, mis read (he could've been scanning a couple of ships and got the scans mixed up)m, misfire. Can't think of anything else, but lolpopping seems pretty high chance.
Yeah, me thinks so. I tend to think it's the high value of PLEX, allowing people with RL money to spend on the game to get kills or something, I dunno.
If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?
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Auduin Ituin
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2015.02.20 11:01:11 -
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Hah. I'd hate doing that, even if I had a job (unless it was like.. a really good job).
T2 tornados go for 100-120 mil, I believe. A single character ratting can pull in at least 60m/hour. So if you have 6 characters ratting, that's 1 tornado every 20 minutes, just over the criminal timer. 8 characters? 1 every 15 minutes, the same as the criminal timer, not including the time waiting for a target. |

Chal0ner
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
136
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Posted - 2015.02.20 11:06:51 -
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Auduin Ituin wrote:Hah. I'd hate doing that, even if I had a job (unless it was like.. a really good job).
T2 tornados go for 100-120 mil, I believe. A single character ratting can pull in at least 60m/hour. So if you have 6 characters ratting, that's 1 tornado every 20 minutes, just over the criminal timer. 8 characters? 1 every 15 minutes, the same as the criminal timer, not including the time waiting for a target.
if you've got 6-8 character alt ratting at the same time you a/ are a boter and deserve everything that happens; or b/ have a warped sense of fun ...
Just my .02 isk (damn I'm poor again, can I have then back please I don't want to rat) |

Auduin Ituin
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2015.02.20 11:08:18 -
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Chal0ner wrote:Auduin Ituin wrote:Hah. I'd hate doing that, even if I had a job (unless it was like.. a really good job).
T2 tornados go for 100-120 mil, I believe. A single character ratting can pull in at least 60m/hour. So if you have 6 characters ratting, that's 1 tornado every 20 minutes, just over the criminal timer. 8 characters? 1 every 15 minutes, the same as the criminal timer, not including the time waiting for a target. if you've got 6-8 character alt ratting at the same time you a/ are a boter and deserve everything that happens; or b/ have a warped sense of fun ... Just my .2 isk (damn I'm poor again, can I have then back please I don't want to rat) Um. Look at drones and aggressive mode. |

Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1580
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Posted - 2015.02.20 11:22:50 -
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Seen a guy doing this repeatedly in a system I frequented. In the end he always, always comes out with a profit. He just ganks any hauler that comes through the gate.
Have been thinking of doing it myself, easy peachy a Plex/day with what people cram in an untanked triple cargo expanded hauler. |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
2411
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Posted - 2015.02.20 12:10:56 -
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Mark Androcius wrote:I have been hearing stuff like this a lot lately and I was just wondering, what is wrong in the heads of these people? I mean, the Tornado's guns alone are more expensive then the kill.
A little searching before posting will reveal plenty of reasons for shooting ships that are worth less than the gank ship.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Aursentris
Council of Stellar Erections
4
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Posted - 2015.02.20 12:55:49 -
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admiral root wrote:Mark Androcius wrote:I have been hearing stuff like this a lot lately and I was just wondering, what is wrong in the heads of these people? I mean, the Tornado's guns alone are more expensive then the kill. A little searching before posting will reveal plenty of reasons for shooting ships that are worth less than the gank ship.
Google search gave nothing usefull |

Seven Koskanaiken
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
1412
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:10:34 -
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The bourgeois are so easily shocked. |

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6517
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:21:37 -
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What does his mental state have to do with how he chooses to play a video game, OP? Are you a psychologist?
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9844
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:21:47 -
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Mark Androcius wrote:Not a whine threat or anything, but I was wondering, what the bloody F is wrong with some people?
1 week ago: Dude uses 125M ISK fitted Brutix to gank a 81M ISK worth Indy boat.
Today: Dude uses a fully T2 fitted Tornado to gank a Badger worth 8M ISK.
I have been hearing stuff like this a lot lately and I was just wondering, what is wrong in the heads of these people? I mean, the Tornado's guns alone are more expensive then the kill.
Once again, not a whine thread (I wasn't the target anyway), just wondering.
No, shooting at someone in a space ship game that gives you guns and spaceship is not a mental disorder. Also not adhering to your individual values about what is and isn't worth it is not a mental disorder.
This is nothing more than a stealth "pvprs should only be allowed to shoot at people who want pvp and can shoot back, or if there is some kind of profit involved" thread. For the last few months that inane idea (the idea that YOU get a say about why others do things in a video game) has been making the rounds of high sec posters and bloggers.
Fact is, people do what they do because they want to for some reason. Your job is to stop worrying about why people do things and start worrying about protecting yourself against such people regardless of their motivation. |

Agent Unknown
Night Theifs DamnedNation
23
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:05:54 -
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There's no Tornado lossmail to go with the badger kill, so it's likely the badger was suspect or had a kill right activated. He didn't lose the Tornado unless it's just not showing... |

Paranoid Loyd
3926
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:31:30 -
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Agent Unknown wrote:There's no Tornado lossmail to go with the badger kill, so it's likely the badger was suspect or had a kill right activated. He didn't lose the Tornado unless it's just not showing... Gate guns will kill a Gank Nado before Concord gets there, if no one else shot at him then there will be no kill mail.
That being said, it looks like he has not ganked for quite a while. But he has been shooting criminals recently. The badger may be a ganker's scooper and he shot it just to **** him off. Or he could have just pulled the trigger too early before the loot was scooped. Or the badger could have been suspect via killright or previous looting and he shot a legal target.
Or as mentioned it could have been a gank attempt and just clicked the wrong target.
I have shot haulers before that were not the actual target but they were being used as bait so that I can lure a thief that has been annoying me into scooping the loot and then an alt will kill the thief. Not saying this happened in this case but mentioned it as there may be a lot more to the story than just the kill mail you see.
It could also be as simple as the killer had a personal vendetta with the victim.
This is a video game sold as a sandbox, so the reality is he could have done it just for the sake of doing it. 100 mil gank nado is chump change to some people, having fun is priceless.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
19978
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:37:35 -
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Sometimes its not for the ISK, sometimes, its just for giggles. Especially when that person has been mouthy in local.
.. and haulers can be mouthy.. very mouthy.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
845
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:44:07 -
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So you think you have a mental disorder because you don't get it? Or why that thread title?
the Code ALWAYS wins
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2Sonas1Cup
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:20:39 -
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Hi
https://zkillboard.com/kill/44739806/
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Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
172
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:28:44 -
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Mental disorder is the best way to sum it up. But typically with a purely evil twist. See: Erotica1
For the lols, the tears. There is no explanation other than illogical mental disorder that seeks to inflict pain on others for enjoyment. Before games such as EvE they would have started out doing this to animals. See: Jeffrey Dahmer.
At least they have a virtual environment to act out in where their actions really have no effect on reality. |

Serene Repose
2275
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:50:42 -
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Sing along with meh!
Sociopaths ain't real good at maths! Sociopaths ain't real good at maths!
(Do the marimba to this one folks!)
Sociopaths ain't real good at maths! Sociopaths ain't real good at maths!
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
513
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:52:45 -
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Uh. Daumer didn't drill a hole in his own head, then pound his victim's fingers with a hammer. This is clearly a case of someone thought they knew what they were doing, but obviously didn't. Probably a CODE member following orders from its able leadership. Yeah. That makes sense.
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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Vyl Vit
1061
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:54:52 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:...This is a video game sold as a sandbox, so the reality is he could have done it just for the sake of doing it. 100 mil gank nado is chump change to some people, having fun is priceless. You wouldn't happen to be in the market for a bridge...I have one in San Francisco for sale...cheap. It's orange!
Anyone with any sense has already left town.
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