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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.07 01:02:00 -
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Well, fresh in a new home and new job, I've finally had the time to finish the third installment from the Smiffa Paper Drive Yards.
New race, new class of ship - I present the Apocalypse. Originally slated for entry into the model contest in E:ON 4, I missed it through RL stuff. Back on track now - I hope (all going well) to have a Gallente ship done by sometime in November.
Plus, there's some instructions I have to finish for the Rifter. They're just not as fun as the models themselves.
Anyhow, heres the goods (US Letter for the Apoc to follow):
Apocalypse, A4 PDF
And if you missed the thread from this year, here's the others:
Heron
Heron, A4 zipped PDF
Heron, zipped US-Letter
Rifter
Rifter, A4 PDF
Rifter, US-Letter PDF
Once again, props and thanks to Chribba for the godliness that is eve-files! 
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.07 08:46:00 -
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Thanks for all the comments guys! It makes this worth doing in it's own right 
 Originally by: Chode Rizoum
are they hard to make ?
and do you just use normal paper ?
They're all worth having a go at - if I were you and you're just starting out on em, print it out in low-quality black and white first, to see how you get on. Otherwise it'll cost an arm and a leg in toner/ink! For paper, I use 160 gsm. Some say that's too thick, I tried a less weightier grade and couldn't get on with it though...
Originally by: Volcom V
Edited by: Volcom V on 07/10/2006 02:46:22
Instuctions?Shocked
I just printed out the Apoc, decided that would take a week, about to do Rifter if I can figure it out....Shocked
Edit: Crap, no black ink.... *changes*
Good thing I had a spare laying around.Surprised
I'll post the instructions I have so far for the Rifter - I'll dig em out this afternoon
Originally by: Lygos
Oooh. Make us a badger or an osprey to play with at work.
Luckily, I have access to a photo quality cardstock printer.
Don't forget the jetcan!
Originally by: Chribba
You're insane... ****ing great!
Can you make a Veldspar model to? I want that.
Keep it up!
That's a really cool idea - with that lot, we could have a mobile to hang. With the Apoc to hold em all ransom... 
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.07 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Thecle Vifargent
Terrific. You are simply good.
Why not makes a book on ccp store with :
- Pre-printed pages
- Full instructions details and pictures "how to build"
CCP, there is a kind of buisness to do with this apoc bpc !
Now I would be up for that... 
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.08 12:50:00 -
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Thanks for the comments guys and gals! It's one of the things that makes doing this worthwhile.
I want to tackle a Gallente ship next, so I'm open for suggestions. So far have been leaning towards the Incursus, Iteron, Thorax or Domi.
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.09 20:13:00 -
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Bit of a bump here, just to point out there's a Letter version for those that like funny paper sizes...
Originally by: Tanis
MMMM, Apoc.. so sexeh.
Fantastic work smiffa. Keep it up!
I look forward to seeing what you put out next.
(/insert shameless plug for the Machariel YARRRR!!)
Well, if you want to arrange for one of those, plus skills to er... get 'delivered to the wrong hangar', I'll take a look! Make it gank-proof too, as my record of getting ships to model home atm isn't great! 
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.11 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Cabadrin
What's the end length and width of the apoc?
72cm (28") long x 8cm (3") wide x 18cm (7") high.
Glad you all approve . Humping included!
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.12 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Dekiri
I really wonder if CCP is blind or something. You have something easy to produce, someone with a LOT of talent and a great idea. And all you would have to do is hire him and make him create more models. You could make awsome giveaways + adds for the EON + extra books with it.
Handing out stuff like that as a special at fan fests or as add on for the EON would be just to awsome.
HIRE THIS MAN!
 wow! thanks for the compliments! It is a hobby at the moment, but I'd jump at the chance for real time to do these things, iron the bugs out and release some complete instructions. I'd seriously consider stuff...
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.14 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: Smiffa on 14/10/2006 22:10:25
Originally by: Cordial Ripper
Edited by: Cordial Ripper on 14/10/2006 19:14:14
ok i wont freak out like the other guys before me but i will yell with all my power COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
first time i saw the post my eyes poped out
but i have a small request
can u pls modify the model for rifter in to a wolf ? can u ? pls the ship is the best looking ship in eve for me pls oh pls!!!!
respect for the master
gona try the rifter tomorow i'm gona get the paper from store :D fisrt thing in the morning
hehehehe! excellent  good to see you like 'em.
If you're going to start the Rifter, you might want to use these. They're not finished and untested, but might be OK for running through the initial part assemblies.
Wolf... hmmm.. can't fly one, will have to find someone with one so's I can see the differences.
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.09 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kodiak31415
Sorry to necro an old topic but this thread deserves the attention and I'd make a new one anyway which would probably be ignored.
Anyway.....
After much procrastination I finally printed out the apoc today and started construction this evening. I decided to print 2 copies, one for testing and first time assembly in black and white on bad paper and one for final assembly in color and on 14lb paper. However I still have some questions for you guys.
Will 24lb paper be enough? I was unable to find heavier but it beats the standard 20lbs.
What do you use as far as an adhesive? I was going to use an ElmerĘs "glue pen" but the glue had the consistency of putty and wasn't sticky. So far I have been using double sided poster tape which has been working fairly well. It adds some rigidity and weight which helps with stability. However it is quite tricky to use with fine points, the smaller "tabs" and fine points (Apoc nose) are big issues. (I place the tape on the non tab side of the joint, trim it with an x-acto to fit, then attach the tabs on the other piece of the joint to the back side of the tape).
Also, would people be interested in a blog/instruction write up or would I be wasting my time?
I certainly don't mind the odd bump . A stickeh would have been cool, but alas, I don't think I'll get one now... 
On to your questions:
I use this paper, which some feel is too thick, but I reckon gives good integrity to model. This stuff still flexes, and bends when scored/rolled well. Lesser stuff I found tended to soak glue up too quickly and go soggy. I think 160gsm is about 75lb paper.
As far as glue goes, I use white craft glue. Can't say what brand, as I removed the label a looong time ago and can't remember where I got it from.
Like the poster-tape idea though. Might try that one!
- Smiffa
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.12 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Clais Monaige
Edited by: Clais Monaige on 11/11/2006 14:55:33
Edited by: Clais Monaige on 11/11/2006 00:16:12
Great Work/Stuff, Smiffa!!!
I can but now post (my account expired when i read this thread first), so in that time i made a Rifter in 80g/m¦ paper, draft-quality, so the result isn't something that could be named "straight", but hey - it's a minmatar ship (no i didn't use ductape, perhaps next time^^).
So here is the result: Gallery
I also made a quick and dirty walk-through, but only in German: Walkthrough
And this evening i made a picture, showing which part belongs to which part of the ship, something like a "pink camouflage" i think (or "clown rifter"?): Rifter Parts
p.s.: ships i wish to see would be
- Thanatos / Nyx, Nidhoggur / Hel
- Incrusus
- Meathron
Tough to create i guess, but i'm confident of your skill
You, sir, are excellent! It's always good to see what's been made of the stuff I've released. The pic that you took and highlighted the parts with is genuinely useful though, and I'll mod my original post to point to that, credits of course!
I've started the next one, it is Gallente and I reckon pretty darned popular. Not a carrier though - can't afford one of those!
Once again, cheers and well done!
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.12 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: Vandervecken Smith
Smiffa,
I'm in the middle of making this, and am having the time of my life.
But I wanted to point you towards piece 6A of the rifter, I believe there's a mistake there. It's not symmetric to 6b and placement of a few tabs makes no sense.
Cheers
Vandervecken
Been a good few months since I built this. However, 6a and 6b are notionally identical, as they form part of the "legs" of the ship, which themselves would be identical. That said, there are odd tab placements on that part, which I will look at and make some amendments to. If it helps, the "plugs/ends" of the part will have gaps at the top of them once assembled.
Next time I'm in-game, please feel free to convo me and chat, if you like .
- Smiffa
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.23 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zenovia Hyradine
I built an Apocalypse for myself over the past weekend. It took me somewhere between 20-22 hours. I used Cannon Matte Photo paper which worked real well. Thank you so much Smiffa, these models are awesome. I'm going to hang it up in my office.
Excellent, glad you enjoyed! Got any pics?
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.06 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Nialka
Edited by: Nialka on 06/12/2006 19:57:51
Awesome work Smiffa!
Those (half-finnished) instructions are really really clean! Could you give us some details on how you made them (like what programs you're using)?
I (sometimes) make papercraft templates as well and really would like to start adding instructions to my work.
Thanks a lot for this addition to Eve!
~Nialka
Thanks for the reply and kind words dude, always nice to see the thread bounce back up the boards!
The instructions are done using Google SketchUp. I import a jpeg of the part, trace over the lines, and then use the excellent shape, node and rotate tools in SketchUp to move the flaps, etc.
Then, once I've got an image, I use something like CorelDRAW or the excellent Inkscape to place the image and the associated arrows, etc.
Finally, print to a CutePDF or similar printer.
Pretty much all of this is done with software that is freely available, so you should be able to get started right away.
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.07 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zenovia Hyradine
Edited by: Zenovia Hyradine on 07/12/2006 04:00:43
Originally by: Smiffa
Excellent, glad you enjoyed! Got any pics?
Forgive the horrible picture from the free digital camera. I havn't cut out the antenas yet, I was thinking about reprinting them on overhead trancparancies to make them less delicate.
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4104019
It must have been a labor of love to make those patterns, very nice work man.
Nice work! Always good to see somebody else put these together!  The antennas on OHP sheets is a good idea.
Originally by: Nialka
one more question for ya!
I unfold em by hand, looking at the models within the excellent tri exporter (<3 Selvin, must send you a "cheers" EVEmail ). Patience and time are the biggest keys.
Hope to have something new for right after Christmas though.
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.12 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Nialka
Alright so if I wanted to make one for the community, which ship should I work on? (I've got a number of other papercrafts on my plate but it'd be worth it to give back to a community that I really enjoy)
I wouldn't want to take on a project you're tackling already...
~Nialka
At the moment I'm working on a Gallente cruiser. Not getting anywhere near the time I want though... 
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.03.03 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Shiva Aleth
I had a few questions/comments relating to these models.
First of all, good work! Eve is lucky to have a community that applies their real life know-how to enhancing the enjoyment of the game of everyone else. I look forward to building some of these models in the near future.
Today I went to a local Fedex-kinkos (I live in the United States) store and did some digging around for some info. Full color prints are only 89 cents per page for 20lb paper, and I believe a slight premium on heavier paper. This seems to bring the project printing cost to around $10, easily doable to try a multi-weekend distraction .
When I did some math, it seems like the 160gsm paper translates to around 50lb paper here, which I didn't find. When I was looking at Kinko's samples, they had a 70lb sheet available. However, when I played around with it, it still seemed like a flexible sheet - is this correct? Should I be looking more towards a card stock? Something stiff that can support itself? Or will the more flimsy stuff be fine? I'd like input from some successfull builds made according to US standards materials.
Finally, on a related note, can anyone recommend a ready source of A4 sized paper in the US? Neither Kinko's nor Officedepot in my area carried it, and sometimes I need to print A4 documents and have to scale/adjust to letter, gets somewhat annoying.
Thanks all,
Shiva
This is the exact paper I use:
Staples "text & graphics" 160 g/m2
Taking a look here gives an approximate. So your 70lb stuff sounds about right - it should be flexible, but also enough to take it's own weight and provide some support. I had a hard time with getting both the Rifter and the Heron to support themselves with thinner paper, and any thicker would have meant the smaller parts are really hard to cut and fold.
I had a quick look on the Staples US website, which list a bucketload of paper types, including some stuff that looks like what you'd be after, and they appear to do mail-order as well.
- Smiffa
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.03.06 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lora Decksaimer
Edited by: Lora Decksaimer on 06/03/2007 18:35:34
Originally by: Per Bastet
Smiffa you do excellent work. I have Only one request.
Instructions please, I beg you
/Signed
Got the Heron (ordered Top Color Laser print in 260g Gloss paper) Also got my self a 40$ foam spray (to fill it up the peaces) and set of tools, and a coating model finishing paint...then cut...even start to folding...but, hey ! hummm 1A -> glues to 3A ? Or 2A ???? Then insert 8C...hummm, OMG!! I¦m too stupid for assembling or what!? HEEEEEEEELP !!!
Beg you for HERON Intructions!!!
PS: CCP must hire Smiffa. CCP is loosing Tons of Cash... EVE STORE HOTEST PRODUCT EVER!
I'll see what I can knock up. Having enough problems snaring the time to finish #4!! I will sort them though (We need a "Soon" smiley)
Originally by: papaPadla
how about we bit isk on the next model to make...
total value isk everyone is willing to give for a certain ship makes a winner... or something to let this man we apreciate he's effort.
I've had some donations from charitable folk, and I'm most grateful as it fuels my Loosing-Dominix-To-NPCs habit nicely . I'd never charge for this stuff, partly cause it's CCP IP and partly cause there's enough stuff around in the past that I wanted to do but couldn't because there's a charge that got in the way.
That said, if there's a clear want for a particular ship then EVEmail me and I'll tally the most popular and make that #5. I will review the requests so far though and see what there is. I think it's pretty evenly spread though...
Cheers for all the support
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.03.06 22:27:00 -
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I've had a long day, feel free to sort my maths out if it's out
I looked at this before. Using j0's ship comparison chart, I figure that the Apoc is about 30 times the length of the Rifter. Scaling down the Rifter to Apoc scale isn't the best idea as it's a bit fiddly as it is. Plus, it'd be really really tiny.
Sooo, the Rifter is about 280mm/11" long (or thereabouts, don't have the model with me at present). This would make the Apoc a whopping 8.4 metres/27'5" long. With stiff enough board or internal support (paper pasted onto real thin ply?) and a large enough printer would do the trick.
Project for this years FF?
- Smiffa
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2008.03.04 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lindsay Fox
This is possibly to coolest fan-made thing I've seen. One would think with the trinity textures that new versions would be spectacular.
Wonder if the OP is still around?
I'm still here, just had a bit of a siesta and this answer is less than 90 days, making it a sort of twitching-not-quite-dead-necro. Quite cool to see there's still some interest.
I've not failed to notice the GFx upgrade, indeed upgrading my own PC to cope better so I think I'll refresh the Rifter, Heron and Apoc with new textures before completing the Gallente cruiser that's been in the works for about 18 months...
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Smiffa
Gallente
Perpetual Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.14 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dracorimus
Edited by: Dracorimus on 14/08/2008 14:55:04
Smiffa you still around bud? Any news about the Gallente cruiser / more nice ships on the way? 
Can we get these sticked please? Very cool resource to have
I am, just hopelessly busy IRL, like moving house and stuff. I do haunt this thread every so often though. Haven't done much on the cruiser but still have all the files and stuff ready to continue towards the autumn.
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