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Black Panpher
Ganja Inc
2671
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Posted - 2015.02.22 23:50:13 -
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What kind of fanservice questions are these ffs.... |

Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30335
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Posted - 2015.02.22 23:57:29 -
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Speaking of the okaseki sisters (commissar kate, colonel selene), especially kate.. she is as some players know, the hottest avatar I've ever seen.
It's also worth noting that some faces aren't possible anymore. Kate's is among them. When I redid 8, the restrictions on chin height had changed, and I wasn't able to draw the chin up to the old height.
A basic rule about female chins (aesthetically speaking, irl / in general) is softer is feminine, and square is masculine. Softer jawlines were possible in the past, but not anymore.
I'm not sure if CCP periodically adjusts the restrictions per race, to ensure variety over time, but unless the chin thing is allowed again, a Commissar Kate clone (and 7's face, which I never retouched), are simply impossible now.
This is 8's old face. It really, really hurts to admit this, but I miss it a lot. I don't even bother asking for help from CCP because I know changing it is practically impossible, for the technical attention required and the settings being lost forever, more than likely.
I'm kind of sad now.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30337
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Posted - 2015.02.23 00:12:22 -
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Violet Crumble wrote:[...] When this particular character started to become almost a 2nd main (if that's even possible) [...] Hell yes it's possible.
Got about fifty girls, and I love all of 'em the same, bang bang
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Colonel Selene
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9883
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Posted - 2015.02.23 00:17:11 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Speaking of the okaseki sisters (commissar kate, colonel selene), especially kate.. she is as some players know, the hottest avatar I've ever seen. It's also worth noting that some faces aren't possible anymore. Kate's is among them. When I redid 8, the restrictions on chin height had changed, and I wasn't able to draw the chin up to the old height. A basic rule about female chins (aesthetically speaking, irl / in general) is softer is feminine, and square is masculine. Softer jawlines were possible in the past, but not anymore. I'm not sure if CCP periodically adjusts the restrictions per race, to ensure variety over time, but unless the chin thing is allowed again, a Commissar Kate clone (and 7's face, which I never retouched), are simply impossible now. This is 8's old face. It really, really hurts to admit this, but I miss it a lot. I don't even bother asking for help from CCP because I know changing it is practically impossible, for the technical attention required and the settings being lost forever, more than likely. I'm kind of sad now.
I'd like to add that Kate's and Selene's skin tones are no longer available to Achura either. They got removed when CCP made the skin tones persistent across all the races/bloodlines. I never intend to change them either as they are relics from the old system.
Grrr.
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Tomiko Kawase
Kite Co. Space Trucking
183
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Posted - 2015.02.23 00:24:04 -
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Rain6637 wrote:I'm a lifelong artist. I don't recall why I started Achura (oh yeah, my roommates told me to), and aside from that, there was no irl motivation for starting with Achura base features. Each race in EVE has different restrictions on the topography of the face (as you know). I suppose it's to maintain a distinct look for each one, and I have to say it's successful. The last generation of avatars didn't draw me in, and I didn't spend much time on them. http://www.eve-avatars.com/?rain6637
http://www.eve-avatars.com/?rain6638
http://www.eve-avatars.com/?rain6639
This latest gen of avatars, however, had more promise, so I spent more time. Their features were restricted somewhat, so I didn't try to fight that to make them look like anyone in particular. I did, however, follow some basic artistic / facial geometry guidelines to make them attractive, starting with 6636. Placement of the eyes, mouth, and width of the nose, softness of the chin... all made to look appealing using the rules I observed in my art. I spent a resculpt copying that character's face to 6635, and meant to do the same to the rest of the rains. But after successfully reproducing 6's facial features onto 5, I realized I was losing their individual identities. Their RP is they are exact clones of another character of mine, but it turns out I'd prefer them to look slightly different. My other resculpts include this character, who has that unmistakable (and indelible) Eskimo / North East Asian look. So I went with it. Didn't try to subdue it at all. She's proud of her heritage. Another one is this Deteis femme, who I made every effort to kill that damn Deteis chin. I see a lot of Deteis women who got hit with the big chin gene, which I think is a shame. As for why women avatars... I don't know. I seem to always pick the strong female characters. It was the Rogue in Diablo, femme Shep in Mass Effect, Female vault dwellers in Fallout. Oh, though I do have a thing for brunettes with fair skin and ice blue eyes. So if I ever allowed myself to idolize any of my characters, I'd have to say it is this one.
That's a very interesting way to apply artistic techniques to avatars. I think you were quite successful across the board. In regards to the cloning, I really wish CCP would give us some slider values to work with alongside the push/pull format.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30339
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Posted - 2015.02.23 00:31:54 -
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Thanks~
I've made a F&I requesting a direct character clone option for resculpts, but it never went anywhere. The suggestion did open up the possibility of character customization as a new profession, but that was about it for the utility past "because RP."
Devs have commented that character cloning is impractical and more than a little technically intensive (so no dice).
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3891
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Posted - 2015.02.23 00:46:42 -
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Serene Repose wrote:a.) b.) c.) d.) e.) That is frankly none of your business.
Thread locked.
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Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
4295
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Posted - 2015.02.23 01:36:14 -
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Reopened the thread. It was incorrectly closed. Continue on.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30346
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Posted - 2015.02.23 02:38:13 -
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This is another resculpt of mine, an Achura who I decided would go full Geisha. I made her nose somewhat beakish, to make her more personable / down to earth / realistic.
I've tried turning different races into stunners, but it broke the sense of realism for me. It can be done, though. I think the most successful examples of breaking the mold goes to Khanid femmes. They turn out quite successful but it's a striking departure from typical Khanid.
Random examples of successful Khanids pulled from Newedenfaces
Tez Saurus Kaaeliaa Ariel Ordion Pyralissa
Maybe it makes me crazy, but.
My characters aren't modelled after anyone irl, but they have distinct personalities in my mind. I don't know when it happened, but RP with them is automatic now, and I don't have to try... they tell me how they think or feel, and there's no conscious algorithm that I use for it. I don't identify with them, but I recognize them as real people, more or less. They're not Mary Sues, either.
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Seven Koskanaiken
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
1412
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Posted - 2015.02.23 02:50:28 -
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My alt is based on a **** star. |
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Steppa Musana
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.02.23 02:58:49 -
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I randomize until something comes up that I would ****. Except Steppa..... I just mutate Steppa each time shes reborn |

Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30350
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Posted - 2015.02.23 03:06:34 -
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I asked my roommates what their motivations were for the look of their femmes, and they both said basically the same thing: they played with it until deciding 'welp, that's as good as that's gonna get."
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Pyralissa
Kite Co. Space Trucking Brave Collective
5
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Posted - 2015.02.23 03:22:14 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Random examples of successful Khanids pulled from Newedenfaces ... Pyralissa...
Ha!
I actually rolled this character back before Incarna, when races affected your attributes, so that's probably why I went out of my way to break the mold.
Great thread!
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Gelatine
EverBroke Geeks
48
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Posted - 2015.02.23 03:23:31 -
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Rain6637 wrote:This is another resculpt of mine, an Achura who I decided would go full Geisha. I made her nose somewhat beakish, to make her more personable / down to earth / realistic.
That's really nice work - loads of personality. I can certainly see where you are coming from when you say you characters tell you how they think and feel. I'm starting to think my portraits are a bit bland.
I always seem to screw up the eyes for example and never notice until after I've finished. Did the same with this one but I'm not that bothered with this character because all she does is research.
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Tomiko Kawase
Kite Co. Space Trucking
186
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Posted - 2015.02.23 03:52:30 -
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Gelatine wrote:Rain6637 wrote:This is another resculpt of mine, an Achura who I decided would go full Geisha. I made her nose somewhat beakish, to make her more personable / down to earth / realistic. That's really nice work - loads of personality. I can certainly see where you are coming from when you say you characters tell you how they think and feel. I'm starting to think my portraits are a bit bland. I always seem to screw up the eyes for example and never notice until after I've finished. Did the same with this one but I'm not that bothered with this character because all she does is research.
Not sure what you mean about the eyes being screwed up. They look pretty good to me.
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3161
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Posted - 2015.02.23 04:07:03 -
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I made the pilot resemble the main character of the computer game "Aquaria".
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30351
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Posted - 2015.02.23 04:43:20 -
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Yeah? Not Chad Kroeger?
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Neti Keire
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
8
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Posted - 2015.02.23 04:49:55 -
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When I created this avatar I made her look like most female pilots I've known in RL. Most of them are fairly attractive, but their day to day look is ruled far more by practicality than fashion. |

ggodhsup
relocation LLC.
63
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Posted - 2015.02.23 06:00:57 -
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Rain6637 wrote:I asked my roommates what their motivations were for the look of their femmes, and they both said basically the same thing: they played with it until deciding 'welp, that's as good as that's gonna get."
this.
i spent way more time on my male main. i post with this char and wanted a distinct "look".
sometimes i think i went a little crazy with the makeup. definetly my first time.
i have also spent hundreds of millions on accesories that i have decided i dont like as much as my original look.
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Tomiko Kawase
Kite Co. Space Trucking
189
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Posted - 2015.02.23 06:26:49 -
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Rain6637 wrote:The supposed psychology behind this is that babies and adolescents naturally have disproportionately large heads, so their facial features are grouped tighter in relation to the overall dimensions of the head. When adults have this going on, their faces register as adolescent (and therefore youthful), despite being older. Throughout their years, even.
Very interesting. I hadn't thought about it like that, but it makes a ton of sense.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
590
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Posted - 2015.02.23 06:37:51 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Just the guys who make girls, now. When you make that girl do you make
a.) The girl of your dreams. Meaning it'd be a dream come true if she were real and ... actually would speak to you?
b.) The girl who got away...because she ran a helluva lot faster than you?
c.) A close approximation of mumsy at age 18?
d.) Your neighbor's wife...the one with marksmanship experience?
e.) YOUR wife, girlfriend or sister?
Thanks for responding. This has had me curious for a very l o n g time. f.) None of the above.
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Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
321
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Posted - 2015.02.23 06:40:06 -
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The character creater imposes very strict limits to what you can or can't do with your avatar face (and body). Rain already pointed that out. This means - more or less - that you simply can't pursue any of the options given in the OP, even if you wanted to. What you can do, is try to make your character look pretty (or in some cases try to make it not look ugly).
Since I'm not an artist like Rain, I use(d) a more technical approach. I created frontal and lateral Marquardt Beauty Mask overlays in GIMP. Then I made screenshots while being in the character creation process, loaded them into GIMP and used the overlays to determine where I needed to make adjustments.
After being done with the bone structure, the next important thing is make up. Do not underestimate what you can accomplish by applying some color to your face. Especially eyeliner and shadow can really help to give some depth. I think I don't need to mention that make up options are really limited, too (I'd like to see some metallic tones, especially gold, silver and bronze among other things).
(And while we're at it, I would like to see some more options for hairstyles, too. )
Last not least is posture and light. It is possible to enhance or hide certain aspects that way. With regard to posture I used some professional celeb phots as inspiration.
All this might sound like a lot of work, but it actually isn't as bad as it seems (especially once you have the overlays ready). My favorite creation is this one: https://image.eveonline.com/character/92978327_1024.jpg. Probably would have made her my main, if not for the 30M SP difference between her and my actual main at the time of creation. 
J'Poll:
EVE doesn't hand out cookies to you.
EVE kicks you down, steals your cookie and then laughs at you for bringing a cookie in the first place.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
590
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Posted - 2015.02.23 06:41:37 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:My alt is based on a **** star. I'm pretty sure I know which one...
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4621
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Posted - 2015.02.23 06:53:01 -
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My science alt lives in a sterile white lab surrounding, and spends her days in a white lab coat, so I wanted her to stand out in that environment and regardless of what she was wearing. There isn't a decent ginger colour, so I went with lots of black.
http://image.eveonline.com/Character/90782193_1024.jpg |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
3783
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Posted - 2015.02.23 07:57:12 -
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Colonel Selene wrote:Rain6637 wrote:Speaking of the okaseki sisters (commissar kate, colonel selene), especially kate.. she is as some players know, the hottest avatar I've ever seen. It's also worth noting that some faces aren't possible anymore. Kate's is among them. When I redid 8, the restrictions on chin height had changed, and I wasn't able to draw the chin up to the old height. A basic rule about female chins (aesthetically speaking, irl / in general) is softer is feminine, and square is masculine. Softer jawlines were possible in the past, but not anymore. I'm not sure if CCP periodically adjusts the restrictions per race, to ensure variety over time, but unless the chin thing is allowed again, a Commissar Kate clone (and 7's face, which I never retouched), are simply impossible now. This is 8's old face. It really, really hurts to admit this, but I miss it a lot. I don't even bother asking for help from CCP because I know changing it is practically impossible, for the technical attention required and the settings being lost forever, more than likely. I'm kind of sad now. I'd like to add that Kate's and Selene's skin tones are no longer available to Achura either. They got removed when CCP made the skin tones persistent across all the races/bloodlines. I never intend to change them either as they are relics from the old system.
Oh yes. My pre-Incarna girls also have those "legacy" skintones. Yiole haves a creamy white which can't be found nowhere in the current ones, and Ishtanchuk's and Indahmawar's redish hue was totally removed from the creator. These old types just look better than the new ones, for some reason.
It's not that the new tones are bad, though. I learned with the Focks that they are quite realistic... To make up them, I learned that black people have both cold and warm skin types, so women must bear that in mind when making up, and the CC actually reflects it. Matilda Cecilia haves a cold skin type, meaning that when you look carefully at it, it is more blue than yellow or red, and so warm make up patterns look better on her than cold ones. a ncie touch.
It is very unlikely that I ever change the make up for the Focks, though, as the CC lacks like half the palette needed to make up darker skins... as someone pointed above, the absence of metal colors is noticeable, and also the fact that there are no violets of any kind.
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Niobe Song
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.02.23 08:09:52 -
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Dalloway Jones wrote:All my female avatars are fierce black chicks. Because I'm pretty sure in a past life I was a black drag queen.
This is another one of my fierce black chicks. I actually ended up liking this character so much I saved her from her designated alt hauler status and transferred her to another account and am currently considering making her my main.
Even though there are some serious limitations to the Eve character creator (all Amarr men look old and mean, all Gallente - Gallente men look like brothers etc.) you can still create some works of art so it makes me happy to see people who have put a little effort into creating something interesting. Whether it is something beautiful or something scary and mean looking. Or fierce. Like a drag queen. |

Yzari thebold
Vulcan Industries Absolution Alliance
5
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Posted - 2015.02.23 08:19:52 -
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My Avatar is doing too many in-game drugs. |

Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
275
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Posted - 2015.02.23 08:24:55 -
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First, thanks ISD Dorrim Barstorlode for reopening the thread.. I couldn't understand why it was closed in the first place..
I didn't spend an excess amount of time making my toons. I mean more than 5min, but less than 15.. not counting when I got them their clothing :p Gotta dress up my Spaceship Barbie's.
As I said earlier, just a bunch of hitting random till I saw something I liked.. maybe a tweak here or there (generally to hair), and then off to the races.
For the record, Gallente (Race) women look best imho :p Never had one of them fail me lol. |

2Sonas1Cup
4
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Posted - 2015.02.23 08:56:41 -
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Since forever I play video games I always picked female characters, not for any of those reasons.
But for the simple fact that they are a lot more pleasant and interesting to look at.
Depending on the game and kind of character I choose a different personality and looks.
Its got nothing to do with ANY of what you said.
For example I have 8 female blood elves in world of watercraft 6 of them level 100.
The other reason why I don't like to pick a male character is because I would feel extremely gay.
The only male character I ever had was a paladin in Diablo II .. or games with no other choice. |

Siegfried Cohenberg
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2015.02.23 08:58:00 -
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You're supposed to make a qt grill |
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