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The Masia
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Posted - 2006.10.08 04:55:00 -
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Dear Piracy,
I write to you because I am distraught. I feel as if there are things holding me back beyond my control. These things have been around forever and I feel they will never change. I am not a very well spoken Amarrian but I will try my best to better explain this in more detail.
I am a pirate, a anonymous pirate at that. I have very poor standings and status towards the laws of nature. I can not enter some secure systems without being gunned down by the police. On top of that, I can not even fly a pod without fear of pilots getting trigger happy. This however, is not a problem to me. I do not want to be there and they do not want me there. I am happy living on the outskirts of empire and preying on innocent pilots. The issues I have, has to do with the fact there is no real industry or trade anymore. The outskirts use to be somewhat fertilized with miners and traders. Now it's nothing but thieves, murderers, and other so called villains. I know this might sound great but not for the incoming trade of supplies, ships, rum, and umm sex slaves.
You see sir, some systems in place seem to have weaken other systems which flipped the balance upside down. Now due to such things, I have to physically mind control another person and fly supplies from empire to base. Matter of fact, I am writing you this letter while mind controlling this same person. I am no magician but sometimes I feel like it. The reason I am explaining this is because it's so hard for me to get supplies and ships to pirate in. I can't simply walk into empire anymore and I have to use mind control to get the things I need due to the trade dieing out here.
So I plea to you sir, if we can design clones of a person to jump 30 systems away. Why can't we design a better way to transport supplies, ships, rum, and umm sex slaves without mind control? If you can see the irony in this letter then you can see me waking up each galaxy morning without a buy order being filled. Sort of depressing just waking up and sitting without having to mind control another person to get what I need. Is this how you saw the galaxy when you helped design it? 
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Lienzo
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Posted - 2006.10.08 05:05:00 -
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Anything can be accomplished if you are willing to talk to people.
Relying on an alt all the time takes a lot of the fun out of the game.
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.10.08 06:04:00 -
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 Originally by: Lienzo
Anything can be accomplished if you are willing to talk to people.
Relying on an alt all the time takes a lot of the fun out of the game.
i dunno, i think pirating is more fun than waiting for your ship buy order to come through 
don't think of it as mind control, think of it as work to pay off his free hauler 
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Victoria Zongo
Derelik Privateers
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Posted - 2006.10.08 10:48:00 -
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Honestly, I am surprised by the fast delivery of my last replacement cruiser. It came over night, for just 10% extra. I had expected that it would take a couple of days longer and cost more.
Now if the industrialists would just start checking gun/ammo/module orders when they deliver ships to my place (hint hint).
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Jenial
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Posted - 2006.10.08 11:20:00 -
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you wanted to be a pirate and kill innocent people SUFFER!!! is what i say you brought it all on yerself along with the other filthy pirate scum out there.
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Sakura Nihil
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.10.08 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jenial
you wanted to be a pirate and kill innocent people SUFFER!!! is what i say you brought it all on yerself along with the other filthy pirate scum out there.
<3
Anyways, I'd agree, buy orders when properly priced are very nice, I have nearly all of the T1 cruisers in existance thanks to buy orders at a single station (my cruiser collection, just fyi ). T2 I haven't done yet, do they deliver?
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Ildryn
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.08 13:08:00 -
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I would be happy to transport items such as ammo, weapons, mods, and even ships i can fit into cargo....for every order the mark up will be 10%....so if you make sure you pay me....and assure my route into low sec is safe....i will gladly bring you and any other pirate his goods at an aggreed upon time....no reason to go ooc to do such things.
Would be a great way for me to make some cash and to get to know some people who arent carebears....let me know...
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.10.08 13:18:00 -
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i have done buy orders with ships, but the unreliability is frustrating.
Sometimes they get filled in hours, other times days.
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Famine Aligher'ri
V i L e
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Posted - 2006.10.08 15:36:00 -
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I think the point is that waiting in a station for days to get ships is really boring. CCP is forcing us to use ALTs because the trade is indeed dead in lower security.
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Dario Wall
Caldari
Bravehearts
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.08 15:52:00 -
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I just put the buy order for frigs/cruisers at about 120-150% of the other orders before logging, and it usually gets filled overnight.
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Jake Pott
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Posted - 2006.10.08 16:41:00 -
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soooo, you live in da hood, and every time someone tries to open up a little snack shop, first you rob him at gunpoint, then you smash out his shop windows and grab his wares, then you firebomb his shop.
Now you hafta walk to a better part of town if you want to buy a forty of Colt 45, because nobody will set up shop in your neighborhood? lmao
boo hoo
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Famine Aligher'ri
V i L e
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Posted - 2006.10.08 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jake Pott
soooo, you live in da hood, and every time someone tries to open up a little snack shop, first you rob him at gunpoint, then you smash out his shop windows and grab his wares, then you firebomb his shop.
Now you hafta walk to a better part of town if you want to buy a forty of Colt 45, because nobody will set up shop in your neighborhood? lmao
boo hoo
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.08 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: The Masia
The issues I have, has to do with the fact there is no real industry or trade anymore. The outskirts use to be somewhat fertilized with miners and traders. Now it's nothing but thieves, murderers, and other so called villains.
i blame the introduction of level 4 missions
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Vizgoth
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Posted - 2006.10.08 19:46:00 -
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Irony FTL 
I S**t all over my house and I can't figure out why it stinks.
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Lienzo
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Posted - 2006.10.08 19:51:00 -
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Order in bulk you cheap bastards.
*starts writing the Finance Handbook for Piracy*
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Sun Win
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2006.10.08 20:38:00 -
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Courier missions. Remember those?
I use courier missions all the time to get other people to ferry stuff between places where things get bought and places where I want them. People are generally willing to haul your stuff out to you for like 1%-2% of the collateral cost (I have no idea why). I've never waited longer than a day for someone to ship something for me.
Related to this is my strategy that involves having one or two more ships fully fitted waiting for me. When the ship I am flying explodes, I then jump in the next ship and throw up a buy order for its replacement. Planning ahead == win.
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Trystram
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Posted - 2006.10.08 23:21:00 -
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I think that low sec pirates etc. should come together and allow a trading corp to move in with supplies....there are no losses in this....hell pirates could be the source of protection for this corp.......will help bring an economy back to low sec....because we all know that is the true issue with low sec.
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Trystram
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Posted - 2006.10.08 23:26:00 -
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How about a corp called "Pirate Suppliers R us"
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Siriyana
Astrum Contract Services Group
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Posted - 2006.10.08 23:56:00 -
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Edited by: Siriyana on 08/10/2006 23:56:26
There are plenty of people *ahem* who are willing to move supplies into low security and even 0.0 space. You just have to be willing to pay the price of those truck drivers who have to go through the hood (insurance costs more when you go through bad neighborhoods all the time, you know, and we have to give the guys a handgun and...)
Perhaps if you contact *coughhintcough* "someone" with information on a possibly lucrative marketplace in low sec, they would be happy to oblige.
Most people, though, just say ZOMG PIRATES and run. 
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CEO, Astrum Contract Services Group
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Trystram
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Posted - 2006.10.09 00:06:00 -
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I am what I would call a part time Pirate...you just gotta watch what you shoot instead of shooting everything that moves...there's money to be made, IF you let the economy grow. Us pirates are just shooting ourselves in the feet....that's why 0.0 has sucked lately....let the economy grow....then there will be reason to come to 0.0. Hell, if you really wanna blow someone up....sell stuff for cheap for example:
0.8 Megathron 120 mil
0.0 Megathron 98 mil
where do you think people will try to get their ship at.....
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Veetor
Gallente
Acme Manufacturing
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Posted - 2006.10.09 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: Veetor on 09/10/2006 00:12:41
I remember EVE when you could travel hours out and actually not see anyone for hours, sometimes days. Now its overcrowded. Acme makes far more ISK in empire than we can in lowsec because we can operate without being shot at every 30 min when show pilots in space lights us up to the baddies. We used to operate in low sec all the time and deal one way or the other with pirates. But now its just to frequent to turn a profit.
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Trystram
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Posted - 2006.10.09 00:24:00 -
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Yeah I understand that...that's why some sort of alliance needs to be formed with the Pirate corps so you can deliver them the goods...If the pirate corps would open up their eye's they could see what kind of outcome this would have. An economy could be reestablished in their system.....an alliance such as MoM could definately benifit from something like this. No more worrying about security status being to low and no more worrying about using an alt to get the items you need.
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.09 08:55:00 -
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If you pirate your own hauler alt then that means you got all your stuff free!!
Doesent it?
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GoddessHekate
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Posted - 2006.10.09 09:24:00 -
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LOL
I find it really funny that pirates are complaining again. Most patches and new modules are in your favour and you now complain that you cant go to Empire to pick up supplies because of your low sec rating. Thats funny!!!!!
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Countess Xiao
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Posted - 2006.10.09 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: GoddessHekate
LOL
I find it really funny that pirates are complaining again. Most patches and new modules are in your favour and you now complain that you cant go to Empire to pick up supplies because of your low sec rating. Thats funny!!!!!
Well, its just that we can't get those new modules because we can't get into Empire..
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Ataraxa
Gallente
Trolltech Ltd.
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Posted - 2006.10.09 10:39:00 -
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I am an industrialist and carebear. Probably what you consider perfect victim.
While I do my business 80% in lowsec, I haul the "good" rewards back to highsec all the times (good loot, mission rewards, high rate implants etc) and put them for sale there on market and/or escrow. I suspect often alts of pirats buy from our corp (It seems like a dozen Ore Mongers have "moved" into the system next door).
For the real pirates I haul stuff to a 0.2 system a few jumps out and put it up for a 10-20% markup. But I do that only when I personally feel like it. So if I have no time, a few trigger happy pirates nearby or even a gate camp = no supplies for you. Sorry :(
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Boliknar
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Posted - 2006.10.09 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Countess Xiao
Originally by: GoddessHekate
LOL
I find it really funny that pirates are complaining again. Most patches and new modules are in your favour and you now complain that you cant go to Empire to pick up supplies because of your low sec rating. Thats funny!!!!!
Well, its just that we can't get those new modules because we can't get into Empire..
I find all of this highly enetertaining. Here we have pirates complaining that there is not enough trade and mining taking place in low sec, and they cannot get the good modules in low sec, when by performing their chosen "profession" they are, by its very nature discouraging trade and mining in low sec.
Suck it up, Buttercup! You chose this profession and the pitfalls that pertain to it. Like all things, evlove and adapt or die.
-B-
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Tokar Lorell
Gallente
Mercatoris Technologies
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Posted - 2006.10.09 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Boliknar
Originally by: Countess Xiao
Originally by: GoddessHekate
LOL
I find it really funny that pirates are complaining again. Most patches and new modules are in your favour and you now complain that you cant go to Empire to pick up supplies because of your low sec rating. Thats funny!!!!!
Well, its just that we can't get those new modules because we can't get into Empire..
I find all of this highly enetertaining. Here we have pirates complaining that there is not enough trade and mining taking place in low sec, and they cannot get the good modules in low sec, when by performing their chosen "profession" they are, by its very nature discouraging trade and mining in low sec.
Suck it up, Buttercup! You chose this profession and the pitfalls that pertain to it. Like all things, evlove and adapt or die.
-B-
Yeah, makes sense to me...there's never going to be anything in low-sec if you keep camping gates and killing everyone that dares to fly through it. A town will always be empty if you barricade the way in and gun down everyone trying to enter.
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Trystram
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Posted - 2006.10.09 16:41:00 -
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I hope all Low Sec pirates have read this....change the stategy at which you operate in order to get your supplies....that's all it takes
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The Masia
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Posted - 2006.10.09 17:01:00 -
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Some really good replies and feedback here. I think for the most part people are giving statements on pirates being the cause of this. Which could be true but only half of it. The other thing is the whole statement on security status (do the crime; do the time).
- On pirates being the cause of the death in supplies/trade in low security. It's not just pirates killing it. The value of low empire is not worth the risk. Which has been stated time and time again. This means : raise the value.
- On the statement of doing the time. There should only be so much sacrifice for our trade. It is just a game and we are here to have fun in all trades. Not just piracy but a number of other trades suffer with systems that are not as fun. All of which deserve a right to be enhanced to make the game more enjoyable for all. This is mine, as a pirate in the trade. Sitting and waiting for many hours and days is not something fun for me. Using Alts is not a good option to increase my game play. :)
Yes, some ships are easy to get in empire but not heavy ships like battleships or even good tech II ships that should be rare but not rare in high security empire. All of which has been carried over by this character (alt) because the systems and trade in place is not working that well. It couldn't hurt to enhance it or atleast talk about it.
I also like how EVE is more realistic towards the galaxy we live in. How what we do in game effects the trade and how supplies are flown into space. I really don't want to remove that aspect but as I said above, it is just a game. This post is just feedback for a hamster.
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