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Tek'a Rain Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:39:00 - [31] I use a simple, non-flamey way to explain it to new raw recruits in CAS. EvE is about pilots, in space. thats it. sure, PrimeFiction says folks can climb out and take a freakin shower, but this isnt a game about taking showers, or going to bars, or dancing in jabba's palace. EvE is about pilots, in space. and yes, a H:2 mod that embraced the style would be fantastic. and that would be a game about pilots, Not in space. Blaque or Foiritan
Jarem Alistor Minmatar Empire of Destiny	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:56:00 - [32] Originally by: Dagda Dia That idea reminds me of Earth and Beyond. It would be cool to see everyone in a station or do actual trades face to face. Yes I am a sad cookie missing EnB, it was my first online game. -another EnB refugee here...- Also if I remember correctly I do believe I saw that they were working on an Eve- Half-life mod engine or some such thing as that. So I wouldn't be surprised to see it sometime in the far off future. Indeed, they're already working on the interplanetary flight expansion to take place sometime after Kali 3 if I remember correctly. Stranger things have happened. -Jare' ---- -Founder-
Micaela Caldari Brute Force Missions inc	Posted - 2006.10.08 23:06:00 - [33] i dont knwo wtf Verolinna is smoking , but i want some lol. and just for the recor d, everything u just said , is already a game in production. eve is a space game , i knwo , your probally feeling a little shocked right now , so i think u shoudl have a breather ;) the game in question is Tabula Rasa , its a sci fi mmorpg but 3rd person rather then ships. its looking nice , thinking of getting to play alongside of eve. somethign to break down those long skills ;) Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
Jarem Alistor Minmatar Empire of Destiny	Posted - 2006.10.08 23:15:00 - [34] Originally by: kieron Planetary flight is tentatively scheduled to be in the expansion after all three parts of Revelations, I would guess an 'out of pod' environment expansion to be after that. However, this is subject to change. At the current rate, I would estimate 2 years before deployment, if at all. For those wishing to have a FPS environment in an EVE setting, I know of at least 2 mods being worked on, one for Half-life, the other for Unreal Tournament. Both are currently in the planning stages and have a ways to go yet. I am looking forward to both projects, the teams involved are very positive on 'getting things right', and ensuring they compliment the back story, nor re-write it. Looks like I was off about what the mods were for... Anyway, far as I can tell that's a direct answer to the OPs question. -Jare' ---- -Founder-
SurfinSeaOtter Amarr	Posted - 2006.10.08 23:26:00 - [35] Edited by: SurfinSeaOtter on 08/10/2006 23:26:19 Originally by: Estel Arador Originally by: Darksaber64x But... armor? What the heck good does armor do in a futureistic setting? You aren't fighting with swords. Most people wearing a bulletproof vest - a.k.a. body armour - aren't fighting with swords either But I think Eve should just stick to fighting with ships. The only reason I'd get out of my ship at a station is to get to a bar The scren in station shouldn't be of your ship, it should be in the local bar/strip joint showing your character passed out on the floor with a tipped over barstool next to him/her
Greme Amarr Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.10.08 23:40:00 - [36] I do believe that Oveur dropped a hint in the latest MoG Army video :) Though of course he didn't say when, so we should expect it Soon(tm).
Illistar DeathWing	Posted - 2006.10.08 23:47:00 - [37] Well, Might I add as an exemple the game freelancer. It was a full space game, but when you docked you had a fully 3d caracter that could go into different areas of the station, including a bar. There was no fps, no shooting, no walking around, but you could hang out with people in a bar :P
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2006.10.08 23:58:00 - [38] /me hates this topic & this thread in particular MOOCIFER Emerald/Alpha Oldtimer
TheM101	Posted - 2006.10.09 07:10:00 - [39] very few people have seen the point having a completely virtual reality based in the eve universe would rock don't you think we don't need to add all the pointless stuff like needing to go and use the bog i just thought being able to get out of my ship and shoot some guy in the face then hop back in my ship and nuke there allies ships would be cool i see from making just 2 threads i've made alot of enemies p.s are you guys all 60 or something i've had crap loads of people making wise *****s at my age, being 14 is nothing get over it, i have a g.c.s.e in both law and philosophy so i'm not an idiot anyway back on point we don't need an fps style game in eve i just thought having an fps game in the eve universe would be good i know if i wanted to shoot someone i could quite easily go and play hl2 anytime but it's not eve oh well i'll just put this heat protection suit on and hide behind this brick wall
Skawl GeoTech	Posted - 2006.10.09 07:28:00 - [40] Originally by: Quin Tal This is the type of game that will most likely never have that. Simply put, it's not what CCP wants from their game. Thats not actually strictly speaking true, it's just waaay down the prioity list. Give it a couple of years...
Julio Torres	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:23:00 - [41] You cant walk, talk, or breathe without the lifesupport in your POD. You're a vegetable. EVE lore explaining this: The Jovian Wetgrave
Beoer	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:36:00 - [42] Originally by: Cipher7 Originally by: Kw4h For everyone who doesn't approve, this will turn you around: You'll be able to see the Exotic Dancers dance on your table, while you have a cup of Quaffe!! Those of us who aren't 12 can do that in RL. I don't need to see pixelated boobs. The only thing I can't do in RL is kill people. Thats all I want from Eve, thats all I want from video games. Kill people. Blow stuff up. Carnage. I don't need to talk to artificial intelligence girls. I don't need to drink pixel drinks. I don't need to watch my Sim take a schit. We can do all those things in RL better than on computer. I almost fell of my chair, this was really funny :)
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:37:00 - [43] Originally by: Val Oman I have sen this topic discussed in some interview or devblog, I just can't remember where. But basically it was (parapharased) "If we have characters walking around, we need a way for them to kill each other. That sounds like CCP all right ---------- Nerf Caldaro!
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:38:00 - [44] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 09/10/2006 08:39:54 Originally by: Julio Torres You cant walk, talk, or breathe without the lifesupport in your POD. You're a vegetable. EVE lore explaining this: The Jovian Wetgrave No. Edit: In fact, follow that link to find the (indirect) statement that it is the pod pilot's years of training that allows them to leave their pods. ---------- Nerf Caldaro!
Pottsey Gallente Acme Shipping Inc	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:46:00 - [45] Walking about would be nice it would add a lot to the game. Just think you can dock walk to a shop and buy stuff or trade with other people. A bar area for role-player would be great as well. You could walk to an agent and talk. All things I miss from E&B. Along with the great explore content. The one area Eve is poor in. Overall Eve is better then E&B but even after all these years in many areas its not as good as E&B. Passive shield tanking guide click here
Rafein Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:23:00 - [46] meh. I never understood the people who want to get outta their pods and walk around in stations. It just seems like a waste of time. Oh, you can go to a bar, or see someone walking around. Big Deal. During that time, your wasting your playtime. You could be mining Veldspar and bettering yourself. I don;t see why people are looking for reasons to dock, and stay docked.
Akkarin Pagan Minmatar Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:33:00 - [47] TBH, I like being able to access all teh station services form the comfort of my pod. Having to get out to go to teh clone facility, or the market, etc. would just wind me up and waste my time, when I am used to just clicking on the service I want. If you want to talk to people in system, use local channel, that way, you don't just get those in the same area of the station as you. Even better. Akarrin Linkage <3 - Immy [green]Please resize image
Ticks	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:33:00 - [48] i dunno... it would be cool if you could go to a casino and gamble away isk with other eve players while you waited for whatever.
Pottsey Gallente Acme Shipping Inc	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:56:00 - [49] ô, you can go to a bar, or see someone walking around. Big Deal. During that time, your wasting your playtime.ö ItÆs more like you wonder around the bar find the disco then bump into a NPC agent. Start talking get a nice bit of text/storyline then get given a one off unique mission like cosmos missions. Agents no longer all appear to be the same generic missing given icon. But instead develop a personality. Passive shield tanking guide click here
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express The Guardian Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:58:00 - [50] I think it would be interesting to add that aspect to the game, however its not as simple as you would think. You'd have to invent a whole series of ground based skills to support that type of game. You'd have to invent new facilities for the ground (kinda like ground POS). You'd have to invent combat on the ground which I think would be more like the combat we see in space and not a FPS. You'd have to program all the worlds and their terrains. This would be a massive undertaking considering how many systems we have and how many planets are in each system. You'd probably have to work out a variety of vehicles too for ground use. ( Actually making a pod transition from spaceships to vehicles might could be a step as it would take less programming ). I would love to see such an explorable environment, however it is something we may never see in EVE, perhaps EVE II :). If you had ground and space elements you'd want to start people off on a more equal footing so it is something that would be more achievable in EVE II with a new server than the present EVE and established servers. Galactic Express Recruitment Post
Sakura Nihil Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.10.09 10:08:00 - [51] Originally by: Val Oman I have sen this topic discussed in some interview or devblog, I just can't remember where. But basically it was (parapharased) "If we have characters walking around, we need a way for them to kill each other. If we do that, we have to take time away from space and we have not even come close to doing all the things we want to with space" At most I would like to be able to walk around in a space station for the social aspect, but I don't want any time taken away from the improvement of the space game. QFT. Tharsis!
Hilder	Posted - 2006.10.09 10:12:00 - [52] OP, I wouldn't worry too much about the flames, you've just been unlucky to stumble into one of the many polarising debates that have raged on these forums since the game began. I doubt if theres many ppl who deep down wouldn't agree that having some kind of planet-side option would be pretty cool. The problem is as a previous poster touched on, we are worried that doing so could take away from other aspects of the game that themselves are not fully realised. Also when you talk about an FPS option I'm sure many readers (as I did) started having flashbacks from SWG post CU/NGE! Noone wants to see this great game messed up in that way. But as a paying customer you have as much right as anyone to post your ideas in the forums, for as some french wino once said; "Sir, I do not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it!"
Roshan longshot Gallente Order of the Arrow	Posted - 2006.10.09 10:21:00 - [53] Originally by: Verolinna well firstly i don't care how long it would take before we can walk around stations and planets ASLONG AS it happens let me make a list of the things i would like :) 1)a character like they do on world of warcraft just make the game much more realistic and serious (instead of the cartoony kiddy stylings of world of warcraft) 2) Once we have a character we could improve them physically like giving them armour and weapons 3) character equipment should be made easily obtainable and basically certain trade goods that people haul around would be usable by your character for example hand held guns and planetary vehicles as well as certain other "things" (you know what i mean :)) 4) surface and planetary wars e.g the guristas are invading a planetary mining colany and you've been asked to land and join the fight against them by shooting their ground troops in an fps style war or attacking there troop carrier ships in space orbitting the planet 5) having stations to dock in will increase the social side of the game for example in world of warcraft many things happen and many items are around just for fun eve could have the same sort of things for example your character getting drunk increases charisma for a short time but prevents you from legally flying your ship or using firearms (you can still do these things but the cops will sure as hell not like it) 6) you could take part in certain careers for example surface mining where you would be paid a certain amount of isk for how long you mine or as i mentioned earlier the junk shop where you attemtp to sell your trade goods to private parties (these trade goods being things you've actually made)or even mechanic where you can help fix other peoples ships (for a fee i have loads og ideas buzzing around in my head i'll post them as i think em and please let me know what you think :) p.s sos for typos i suck at typing and grammer but i do try I am not going to bother reading all 51 replies! But if you want to walk around then you have a problem. YOUR A POD PILOT. In an egg, filled with goo, with hoses going into every hole in your body. Did I mention your also nekid as a newborn? I personally dont want to see such a sight. Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter *pirate* or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box.
Lindris Malren Minmatar FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.09 10:38:00 - [54] So, ground-based, FPS combat, outside the safety of your pod and its cloning gear? Once you meet the projectile/charge/pulse with your name on it, have fun starting a new character...
Kendar Gallente 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.09 10:40:00 - [55] Here is an easy solution to your problem Verolinna 1. Start eve 2. Start half life 2 or some oher kind of fps game 3. when ever you dock you alt tab to half life or some other fps game and start the rampage 4. when you want to fly around a bit alt tab back to eve and press undock Easy solution for your problem but since im not ccp im more like EA or some other bastard game company i take monney for my patches/solutions so now you have to send me all your isk
Riho Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:32:00 - [56] how would we walk around ??? all player characters have been in a POD since they born... never moved a muscle or enything. thye have wires and crap comeing ou of theyr brains and stuff like that :P and some of them have been there for 3 years + so how cna they even walk... or LIVE outside the pod ?? all this pod crap is coverd in the start of the tutorial :)
Sandra Tseng THE MISPHIT'S	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:44:00 - [57] [whole post cencored because it conained more foul language than any sane person could handle] _ Killed my sig AGAIN! :p http://www.ninc.org/krubarax/images/2d/verydisco.jpg
Aodha Khan Minmatar Blood Inquisition	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:58:00 - [58] Originally by: Riho how would we walk around ??? all player characters have been in a POD since they born... never moved a muscle or enything. I don't think this is the case. Anything from the backstory which would indicate this? So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
Pottsey Gallente Acme Shipping Inc	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:58:00 - [59] Edited by: Pottsey on 09/10/2006 12:00:04 ôhow would we walk around ??? all player characters have been in a POD since they born... never moved a muscle or enything. thye have wires and crap comeing ou of theyr brains and stuff like that :Pö How can so many people get the background story so totally wrong? You have not been in a pod since you where born it takes many years of training just to get inside a pod and only a few make it. The wires unplug so you can get out of the POD but you donÆt have wires in your head. The right hand pic in my sig is a person in a pod. In fact lots of the storyÆs talk about pilots getting out of the pod and having crew ready to clean them up. Others talk about retired POD pilots on planets thinking about getting back in a ship. Then there are all things like when you get out your ship, change ships and get into a new pod. DonÆt forget clones when you die you appear in a clone vat tube, which you walk out of, and walk to youÆre new pod and ship. "Did I mention your also nekid as a newborn?" Your not nekid as a newborn in a pod. See my sig. Passive shield tanking guide click here

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