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Pod Panik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.25 00:14:42 -
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Hello all...
Quick question for the experienced players...
As i try to amass funds (and skills) to get a Battleship for L4 missions I am mostly doing L3 missions.
Reading on the web, i found references to the high sec combat exploration sites. If I recall from my high sec data and relic exploration attempt, those combat sites were quite frequents.
How profitable are this level 3 and 4/10 combat sites? Especially vs L3 missions?
How good of an option are they?
Thanks
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
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4722
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Posted - 2015.02.25 00:16:52 -
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IIRC 3/10 sites are in line with the harder L3 missions, and 4/10s are in line with the easier L4s.
The main difference though is that in DED sites, other players are much more likely to compete with you.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Pod Panik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2015.02.25 00:32:35 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:IIRC 3/10 sites are in line with the harder L3 missions, and 4/10s are in line with the easier L4s.
The main difference though is that in DED sites, other players are much more likely to compete with you.
You mean in term of difficulty or profitability?
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Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
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Posted - 2015.02.25 00:47:59 -
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3/10 can be done by a week old newbie in a destroyer. All it takes is to not get too close to the npc.
A 4/10 really depends on which faction it is, what you're flying and how knowledgeable you are. Some faction's 4/10 are just brute dps/tank or kiting like hell in a (faction) cruiser, others have a little trick to them allowing you to almost completely avoid having to fight them all. It can still by done by relatively young pilots but that generally requires them to not be newbies, in that they understand some basic combat. Still, I've helped newbies who, about 1-2 week old in a vexor, completed 4/10 but I generally wouldn't recommend it unless you know the tricks for that specific one.
I'll send the OP an info mail with all kinds of info on combat exploration specifically aimed at newbies.
I'm old Gregor.
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Pod Panik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2015.02.25 00:50:47 -
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And how profitable are those?
Especially compared to L3 missions? |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
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4722
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Posted - 2015.02.25 00:55:01 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:3/10 can be done by a week old newbie in a destroyer. All it takes is to not get too close to the npc.
A 4/10 really depends on which faction it is, what you're flying and how knowledgeable you are. Some faction's 4/10 are just brute dps/tank or kiting like hell in a (faction) cruiser, others have a little trick to them allowing you to almost completely avoid having to fight them all. It can still by done by relatively young pilots but that generally requires them to not be newbies, in that they understand some basic combat. Still, I've helped newbies who, about 1-2 week old in a vexor, completed 4/10 but I generally wouldn't recommend it unless you know the tricks for that specific one.
I'll send the OP an info mail with all kinds of info on combat exploration specifically aimed at newbies.
Consider posting a guide here, the question is asked a bit.
Re my earlier post - I meant in difficulty.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Gregor Parud
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Posted - 2015.02.25 00:57:32 -
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Pod Panik wrote:And how profitable are those?
Especially compared to L3 missions?
You have mail :)
Income is erratic but 3/10 and 4/10 drops can range from 10k isk to 300+ million, on average a decent drop is some 30-90 mil (all explained in that mail). To give you an idea on how profitable it can be if you do it rightGäó, when I use one of my exploration alts (like this one) I generally make 250-500 mil a day on average (some times more, some times less), all in high sec. And it's not like I'm grinding all day, I tend to be busy on my other accounts and/or chat a lot helping ppl with stuff. But I use the rightGäó ships for it and I know where to find them and how to do them the fastest way possible.
I've helped tons of newbies with it, some mail me back that they tried for 5 days and got nothing, others mailed that they made about 60-100 mil a day for several days now.
Exploration requires patience, optimisation, knowledge and the understanding of the concept of averages.
I'm old Gregor.
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Gregor Parud
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Posted - 2015.02.25 00:58:51 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Consider posting a guide here, the question is asked a bit.
Re my earlier post - I meant in difficulty.
It's full of links to fits and websites, wouldn't translate well without some rewriting. I might just do that at some point.
I'm old Gregor.
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.25 01:00:11 -
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Difficulty.
Profitability wise, you don't know what you'll get with the DED sites. There is a small payout for bounties and you could get a small payout if you bother to salvage and loot, but there is also a chance for a big payout in a faction loot drop at the end of the site.
The problem is that in most areas of Eve these sites are going to be hard to find before more experienced players. And then there is a big chance that if you find the site first, an experienced player will jump into the site and get to the potential loot ship before you do.
I doubt you'd get to an L4 boat faster looking for DED sites than just plowing through L3 missions, but you could incorporate them as part of doing exploration when you're tired of running the L3's.
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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
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Posted - 2015.02.25 03:49:16 -
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Luck and timing play a role as well. All of the sites I find in high sec have usually just been run, or there are people in them and it has been that way for about 6 months.
In times past I used to make ISK easi;y with the 3/10, 4/10 sites but not now. Such are the breaks.
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Selaria Unbertable
POS Mortem
Renegades Of Silence
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Posted - 2015.02.25 08:41:12 -
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Pod Panik wrote:And how profitable are those?
Especially compared to L3 missions?
I've done my first combat exploration sites in my first year of eve. I made my first billion in one week, doing 3/10 and 4/10 plus some unrated complexes in minmatar space. It depends on the region, the faction you kill and how much competition there is, but in general, if you do enough sites, combat exploration is much more profitable than lvl3 missions. And more fun due to competing with others.
A few sites with some drop luck, and you can buy a plex, it's really all up to the RNG. If you're interested, check out JohnnyPew's youtube channel, he did a lot of videos about exploration, even explaining some of the sites.
As for the ship, I'd recommend a battlecruiser for those 4/10s, and a heavy assault cruiser once you have the skills. For 1/10 and 2/10s (yes, they do exist, but are quite rare, even in HS, and esp. the 2/10s can drop some nice loot), a Frigate/Destroyer is enough, for 3/10s a well fitted cruiser should suffice, if you know what you're doing. Once you have better skills, consider an assault frigate for those. You can do even 4/10s in those, kind of a challenge though. |
Gregor Parud
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Posted - 2015.02.25 11:59:35 -
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While Jonnypew makes a ton of content and generally is very useful to watch his stuff, he also gives some shockingly bad advice at times.
I'm old Gregor.
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