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inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.10.10 23:56:00 -
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I have a Crusader sitting in my hangar which I hardly ever fly. I've polished up the dashboard, hoovered the cobwebs out of the laser tubes and I have a Rent-A-Matari shining up the crystals.
Thing is, I still don't know how to fly it. I'm trying to throw together an anti-inty setup, maybe catch the odd AF pilot with his trousers down. Most setups seem to fall into three categories: BBQ range (Gatlings + Multi/Conflag), web skirting range (Pulses w/Scorch) or Crow range (DLB).
Logic tells me the 'sader's advantage is speed, to slap DLBs on it and try to dictate range to everyone. I fear, though, that beam damage is pitiful, grid consumption is heavy and I'm toast to anyone with Snakes, Gistii equipment or better speed skills. The ballsy pilot in me wants to slap Gatlings on, HS and plate up, then swoop under nos range and have my cap sucked dry.
I could go out and toast some setups, try and learn from my mistakes. Or I could draw upon my elders' knowledge, flutter my Amarrian eyelids and hope there isn't an "it depends" answer lying in wait. 
Go on, how do you fly your 'sader? 
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Aeaus
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.10.11 00:02:00 -
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I'd say plate and hard hitting close range guns personally. 
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Bardi MecAuldnis
Amarr
Pirates of Destruction Union
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.11 00:18:00 -
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Armed t2 Shuttle...
I fit dlpl2's with assorted crystals, Catalyzed Arcjets, small battery, nanos in lows.
Current skills and unnamed nanos give me 4400m/s.
This will get owned by a lot of things, but I like that I can switch crystals and stay out of harm's way (instantly warps/accelerates). Fly whatever matches your style.
Daisetsunamono, protect my balls!
Boku ga warui, so lets fighting!
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Dahak2150
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Posted - 2006.10.11 02:21:00 -
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Alas, I do not yet have a 'sader.
But in my dreams it has 12 mids and a 1 second cap recharge rate.
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.10.11 02:31:00 -
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do a jSgerbomb?
highs: 4x gatling t2's
mids: web + scramble
lows: MAPC, 400mm rolled tungsten, DMG control, t2 small repper
there are 3 videos I think which should give you some introduction in flying it
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Grimpak
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.11 02:52:00 -
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hmm... DLB's, mwd, 20km'er, nanofibs and cpr's?
bit of a cristal-jawed tiger tbh, since you sacrifice everything for range and speed.
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 Originally by: Abdalion
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What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.10.11 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tassi
mids: web + scramble
The Jaegerbomb was built for catching AFs and its setup reflects it. This won't catch any interceptors without MWD + web (scram is usually sacrificed).
Originally by: Grimpak
hmm... DLB's, mwd, 20km'er, nanofibs and cpr's?
bit of a cristal-jawed tiger tbh, since you sacrifice everything for range and speed.
That's kind of what worries me. It also sucks against Crows because it's unlikely the tracking situation will be ideal with two inties MWD'ing at range. 
Maybe Aeaus is right, perhaps I should just build it to slug it out at ultra-short range.
(stealthy bump  )
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Grimpak
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.11 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: inSpirAcy
Originally by: Grimpak
hmm... DLB's, mwd, 20km'er, nanofibs and cpr's?
bit of a cristal-jawed tiger tbh, since you sacrifice everything for range and speed.
That's kind of what worries me. It also sucks against Crows because it's unlikely the tracking situation will be ideal with two inties MWD'ing at range.
on this setup i usually ran from crows tbh .
however blasterranis and such are dead meat, unless you end up at that blasterranis web range, like I did before
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Originally by: Jebidus Skari
What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Frools
No Quarter.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.11 11:57:00 -
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damage is horrible from a beam sader because you're using MW and cant fit any HS
it does work tho, eventually 
how do i fly my crusader? i trained gallente frig 5 and fly taranises instead 
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inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.10.11 12:47:00 -
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Edited by: inSpirAcy on 11/10/2006 12:49:56
Originally by: Frools
how do i fly my crusader? i trained gallente frig 5 and fly taranises instead
Bah!
I have Gallente Frig V but something compels me to fly the underdogs. Perhaps I shouldn't be too disappointed then when I can't find the perfect fit.
So with Gatling range and DLB range covered, is there any advantage to skirting web range? With MP + Scorch I can just about push an 11.2km optimal, obviously with a tracking penalty though. Seems a dodgy range to skirt without an MWD running continually or constant hammering of the web button... hmm.
Edit: Come to think of it, DLP + a TE might help tracking?
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.10.11 12:51:00 -
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Every E-peen taranis or crow pilot out there thinks that a sader is easy prey and will just go for it with MWD burning towards you.
with jSgerbomb style you get the afs and the inties stupid enough to try it
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inSpirAcy
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.10.11 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tassi
Every E-peen taranis or crow pilot out there thinks that a sader is easy prey and will just go for it with MWD burning towards you.
with jSgerbomb style you get the afs and the inties stupid enough to try it
I guess that's one way of looking at it.
I might give it a run for kicks, it's certainly got a better chance at AFs than most anti-inty setups. It's just the lack of inertia when flying into an enemy's web that scares the crap outta me; being pinned at ~7km with Gatling Pulse isn't the most attractive prospect.
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Yaro
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Posted - 2006.10.12 07:02:00 -
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lows: 3 local hull conversion reinforced bulkheads, 1 damage control - over 1100 structure with 56% resistances
meds: t2 mwd, web or scramble
highs: 4dpl t2 or dlb - whatever suits your style
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Kinsy
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.12 09:44:00 -
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Edited by: Kinsy on 12/10/2006 09:46:16
The problem with a sader is although you gank the crap out of stuff, it either:-
- Runs away
- Calls in a mate and you die
- Is a Crow, why were you so stupid to engage a Crow nublet?
Stick to using them in gang ops where you'll have a pal doing either the webbing or the scrambling.
I have taken on 2 Blasterranises at the same time in a sader and made them both run. Neither of them were what you would call inty noobs either.
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Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.10.12 10:22:00 -
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DLP, scram, mwd, cpr, nano, small rep.
You can easily hit to 20km with radio and outside web range with gamma.
You have higher speed than a crow and taranis and can hurt the taranis on approach *should* you get webbed. By the time he gets into blaster range you should just be getting the killmail.
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