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Complacency's Bane
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.11 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Rico Naginata because in real life if you shot someoen in the street opposite the police station, they wouldnt let you go hide in the stations reception area would they?
Where in RL do you live that the proper police reaction for any minor crime is to be shot 48 times?
Somolia? Iraq? New York City?
RL examples are idiotic. Its like complaining that bishops in chess can only move diagonally, while the bishop in your church can also move fowards and to the sides.
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Complacency's Bane
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.11 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: xenodia
Originally by: Complacency's Bane
RL examples are idiotic. Its like complaining that bishops in chess can only move diagonally, while the bishop in your church can also move fowards and to the sides.
Ive heard RL bishops can only move in and out.
I was going to put in a priest joke, but I took the high road.
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dennyreborn
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Posted - 2006.10.12 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: theblaze
Originally by: FireFoxx80 But then the infamous m0o corporation held a blockade in Mara which killed an awful lot of people..
Zombie Inc... Yulai?
MoO was first they used to have the entire lonetrek region as there. there was a video called naughty in nonni. pretty much them runnign wild in nonni killing people and concord alike. Then the Dev's intervined with the jove fleet. and then blew up and podded mOo. then patched concord so they would pretty much isnta kill most poeple. Zombie came many months later and they used a trick with having friends boost your shield and cap. Those that werent banned were not banned for exploiting they were banned because the DEVs/GM told them to stop and they did not.
those two inceidences pretty much made it so. you used to be able to get awayin capitol shisp. cap ships were quickyl made so you couldnt brign them to empire or buold them there though except freighters.
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Mra Rednu
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Posted - 2006.10.12 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowpawn Condorks
Are you really trying to insult imaginary avatars in an on-line game?
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.10.12 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowpawn I just love the girlie-FANboys who shout exploit because they don't have the skills to do something. How is something an exploit if the person has the skills to tank Condorks long enough to get thru the aggression timer and dock or gate etc??
please explain this to me?
Shads
It's an exploit to trigger CONCORD and not be destroyed. CONCORD showing up and destroying you is the price you must pay for unlaful aggression in highsec.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Orri Sarikusa
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Posted - 2006.10.12 07:23:00 -
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Just a side note why do you think its caused suicide ganking in high sec?
Because you gank and then get concordokkened. *-*-*-* How to avoid a ban.
The Manuel approach - 'I know nothing I'm from Barcelona' |

B0rn2KiLL
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2006.10.12 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Big Al something like:
(notify) CONCORD Police Commander has started trying to warp scramble you. (notify) CONCORD Police Commander has started trying to warp scramble you. (notify) CONCORD Police Commander has started trying to warp scramble you. (combat) CONCORD Police Commander aims well at you, inflicting 596.6 damage. (combat) CONCORD Police Commander places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 813.0 damage. (combat) CONCORD Police Commander barely scratches you, causing 342.0 damage. (combat) CONCORD Police Commander aims well at you, inflicting 587.9 damage. (combat) CONCORD Police Commander aims well at you, inflicting 615.9 damage.
Speed tank ?  ---
new sig, Hijack it and ill eat u. *Imaran hands B0rn2KiLL a fork - Come get some!11 
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Dionisius
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:30:00 -
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If you atack someone in High Sec area something like this happens...
w0000t And in the ring corner we have Concord! w0000t and in the left corner we had the guy that's in a pod currently.
Ding!Ding!Ding! And the winner for TKOS is Concord with a record of alot to none.
End of fight.
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Arushia
Nova Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.12 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Complacency's Bane
Originally by: Rico Naginata because in real life if you shot someoen in the street opposite the police station, they wouldnt let you go hide in the stations reception area would they?
Where in RL do you live that the proper police reaction for any minor crime is to be shot 48 times?
Somolia? Iraq? New York City?
Except concord never pods, so it's more like the police destroying your car for an attempted assault, then leaving.
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Praxor
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Posted - 2006.10.12 16:13:00 -
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Wow, didn't mean to set off this kind of war. But thanks, I don't think I'll be taking pot shots at anyone in 0.5+ anytime soon.
The thought does occur to me though ... that I could roam around in (relatively cheap) frigates and/or cruisers and gank new players in highsec space. Sure, I'd lose my ship. But then again, so would they. I wouldn't have a problem losing a 1/2 dozen merlins or kestrels. ;-)
P
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Billy Sastard
Amarr Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2006.10.12 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Praxor ... I could roam around ... and gank new players in highsec space....
I have to ask...
Why? What do you stand to gain from this other than loss of security status and shortly the loss of the ability to enter highsec anymore? I guess you just want to drive new players from the game by making them think that EVE is just a gankfest? This kind of attitude disgusts me. Piracy I understand, greifing is a wholly different activity, and what you are describing is pure greifing.

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Praxor
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Posted - 2006.10.12 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Sastard
Originally by: Praxor ... I could roam around ... and gank new players in highsec space....
I have to ask...
Why? What do you stand to gain from this other than loss of security status and shortly the loss of the ability to enter highsec anymore? I guess you just want to drive new players from the game by making them think that EVE is just a gankfest? This kind of attitude disgusts me. Piracy I understand, greifing is a wholly different activity, and what you are describing is pure greifing.

Hey ...
Relax bro. I've never done it. I'm new to the game and still very much in the "what kinds of things can/can't I do" mentality. I'm even newer to PVP. I don't grief players. I'm familiar with the troubles of gank fests. I've never even taken aim at a shuttle in lowsec. I was merely thinking out loud. Contrary to your suggestion, I've actually been encouraging friends to try EvE out via the "refer a friend" trial program. So please, don't rush to conclusions.
Disgust is a pretty strong emotion in response to "audible" thinking. But such is the nature of online forums I guess.
Thanks for all the clarification about killing players in highsec.
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Billy Sastard
Amarr Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2006.10.12 19:23:00 -
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I apologise for my extreme reaction above. I guess it was the specific combination of the words 'gank new player' that set me off a little. I just feel strongly about pure greif tactics, and what you were describing was nothing but greif. I am sorry that I misunderstood your thoughts and intentions. 
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Praxor
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Posted - 2006.10.12 19:33:00 -
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You know, it's funny. The main reason I replied was that I had been thinking about this quite a bit the past two days. The other night, I was cruising around lowsec looking for a fight. Of course, like many, I've always wondered how I might "gank" somebody at a gate. I'm talking people in actual ships (eg., T1 frigs, Destroyers, etc...). I tried once (on a Destroyer) but couldn't get enough shots off before the guns got into my armor. So "poof" away I warped.
But the other night I saw a guy in a shuttle, just tooling around. I thought, "Is this guy nuts? Somebody could take him out with a single shot!" Then I thought about how lame that would be if people consistenly ganked shuttles. I thought that the issue is fundamentally about honor. What kind of game / PVP do we want EvE to be?
Unofficially, unspoken rules, often have a wonderful feel. You know ... like ... never hit a lady. Etc... That's how I felt about the guy in the shuttle. So I decided to never target shuttles (unless it's someone who just ganked me and got taken out by guns). Ironically, the next night I got pwned by a group of 3 gate gankers. Two minutes later I was going back through the very gate to get my arse out of lowsec and buy / refit a new ship.
Thankfully, they didn't even try to target me.
Honor ... ftw.
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Qel Hoth
Kensei Mercenaries
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Posted - 2006.10.12 20:22:00 -
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Just wondering, since CONCORD doesnt kill pods, what would happen if you aggroed in high sec, then ejected. Would they leave you alone or kill the ship? I would check it out on SISI, but my account hasn't been activated over there.
Not that I would try it, just wondering what would happen.
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Savesti Kyrsst
Minmatar Unity Star
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Posted - 2006.10.12 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Qel Hoth Just wondering, since CONCORD doesnt kill pods, what would happen if you aggroed in high sec, then ejected. Would they leave you alone or kill the ship? I would check it out on SISI, but my account hasn't been activated over there.
Not that I would try it, just wondering what would happen.
AFAIK, the concord timer begins again as soon as you re-enter the ship.
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Areconus
Caldari Cereal Killerz Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.10.12 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker from what ive seen when someone is naughty in high sec is concord pretty much owns their target like a group of 12 Terran Battlecruisers yamatoing something.
QFT
Gloria Stitz-
"Try not to bring reality in to these forums Otherwise we might take the game seriously" |

Areconus
Caldari Cereal Killerz Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.10.12 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: B0rn2KiLL
Originally by: Big Al something like:
(notify) CONCORD Police Commander has started trying to warp scramble you. (notify) CONCORD Police Commander has started trying to warp scramble you. (notify) CONCORD Police Commander has started trying to warp scramble you. (combat) CONCORD Police Commander aims well at you, inflicting 596.6 damage. (combat) CONCORD Police Commander places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 813.0 damage. (combat) CONCORD Police Commander barely scratches you, causing 342.0 damage. (combat) CONCORD Police Commander aims well at you, inflicting 587.9 damage. (combat) CONCORD Police Commander aims well at you, inflicting 615.9 damage.
Speed tank ? 
Rofl you actually think that'll work? Im sure the bses have guns that do the exact same dmg to a battleship as to an inty moving 4kms, and not to mention theres frigs thatll hit you anyways
Gloria Stitz-
"Try not to bring reality in to these forums Otherwise we might take the game seriously" |

Hesod Adee
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Posted - 2006.10.12 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Qel Hoth Just wondering, since CONCORD doesnt kill pods, what would happen if you aggroed in high sec, then ejected. Would they leave you alone or kill the ship? I would check it out on SISI, but my account hasn't been activated over there.
Not that I would try it, just wondering what would happen.
I tired it with a friend the other day. Even if you get out of the ship before concord arrives, concord still blows up the ship.
We also tried boarding the ship with the attacked player before concord arrived, we got a message saying that the ship was involved in current police action and we weren't allowed to board it till the action was over.
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Hesod Adee
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Posted - 2006.10.12 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Qel Hoth Just wondering, since CONCORD doesnt kill pods, what would happen if you aggroed in high sec, then ejected. Would they leave you alone or kill the ship? I would check it out on SISI, but my account hasn't been activated over there.
Not that I would try it, just wondering what would happen.
I tired it with a friend the other day. Even if you get out of the ship before concord arrives, concord still blows up the ship.
We also tried boarding the ship with the attacked player before concord arrived, we got a message saying that the ship was involved in current police action and we weren't allowed to board it till the action was over.
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Rude Bwoy
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Posted - 2006.10.13 12:21:00 -
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Is there an echo in here? 
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Sastard
Originally by: Praxor ... I could roam around ... and gank new players in highsec space....
I have to ask...
Why? What do you stand to gain from this other than loss of security status and shortly the loss of the ability to enter highsec anymore? I guess you just want to drive new players from the game by making them think that EVE is just a gankfest? This kind of attitude disgusts me. Piracy I understand, greifing is a wholly different activity, and what you are describing is pure greifing.

****s and giggles of course 
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hUssmann
Caldari Veto.
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Posted - 2006.10.13 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Qel Hoth Just wondering, since CONCORD doesnt kill pods, what would happen if you aggroed in high sec, then ejected. Would they leave you alone or kill the ship? I would check it out on SISI, but my account hasn't been activated over there.
Not that I would try it, just wondering what would happen.
Concord just shoot the ship even if their is no pilot in it.
Phoenix Lonestar > Server lag was non-existant pre-Dragon |

Sanka Cofie
Amarr Ministry of Silly Walks
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: Sanka Cofie on 13/10/2006 21:15:10
Originally by: Complacency's Bane
Originally by: Rico Naginata because in real life if you shot someoen in the street opposite the police station, they wouldnt let you go hide in the stations reception area would they?
Where in RL do you live that the proper police reaction for any minor crime is to be shot 48 times?
Somolia? Iraq? New York City?
Where do you live that blowing up someones mode of transportation with them still in it is a minor crime? Medellin? Baghdad? Beirut? Detroit?
Originally by: Complacency's Bane RL examples are idiotic. Its like complaining that bishops in chess can only move diagonally, while the bishop in your church can also move fowards and to the sides.
You have a bishop who has 360 degrees of movement? What sort of mutant congregation do you belong to?
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