Don't go changing the whole game because a few guys got butthurt about a roam/gank that didn't go there way because of fighter assist, I've fought the little frigs that have fighters assigned to them, if u kill the frig the fighters go away... Stop changing this game so solo guys have a harder time or defending what they have turned into there emergent gameplay. a few guys whining about this current mechanic, should never change how this game works.

I know this is a hard concept to grasp for some of you.

Polite works far better then inarticulate swearing and insults. You are mad, we get that and do not need you to make any sexual references to prove that for you sex and anger are one and the same.

You don't like the changes? Some of you have done a fine job of suggesting alternatives or asking for lessening of the changes ot just voicing your concerns. Good.

Others, not so much.

Me? I am in favour of the change because I never think a person should be able to be totally uninvolved and still be a part of the on field force. I dislike off-grid boosting for the same reason.

But the fighters were a mechanic that was fine, for a while, but then became abused more and more. What did you expect? That since it was fine yesterday it must be fine today and always will be? The game changes, for the better or worse will show in the longer run. But if you want to be heard, if you want to have a single iota of a chance to be heard by CCP then keep it civil.

If what I said ticked you off . . . well, I am running for CSMX. Vote accordingly.

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This whole thing makes me fear something is rotten at the heart of Eve. "We don't have a clue how to fix POS code, or off-grid boosters, or local chat, or really anything except modify a few numbers in some spreadsheets, so let's do that."

Just got killed by an astero with templars assisted to it. Athleast remove the option to assist to frigs/destroyers and cruisers athleast.
Sucks to be killed from something you cant do nothing about instead of having an actual 1v1.

Easier said than done - last time I ran into it I was in an old school single non-asb booster Sleipnir (hadn't got around to refitting it) and had to deagress and jump out fairly quickly - if I'd engaged anywhere but on a gate/station or had been further off gate I'd have been dead, very dead. (Might have been able to kill them if I'd been dual asb + linked... maybe...).

Problem with having a minimum distance from POS is that the carrier will just sit over 200km off the POS and align to the tower. If anything bad is about to happen, instant warp to safety.

Therefore minimum distance will change nothing.

If anything, POS shields need to go and POS's need to be completely redesigned into modular small starbases. Where is that dead horse thread?

Then, it wouldn't matter if you assigned fighters. You'd have a weapons timer and be vulnerable as you wouldn't be able to instantly reach safety.

So with all the capital hate thats going on lately, be it from fighter/bomber scan res nerf, to no more assist, no skynet and warps, give us something to do with our shinies.

All you naysayers of capitals and no risk versus reward hear me out...

Let caps/supers use acceleration gates and dock. no, no hear me out.

1) Acceleration gates. What were the two main blocks for capitals to go into incursions? I mean other than no capitals in highsec. Cyno jammed systems and acceration gates into deadspace. Well cyno jams are meaningless now, we can just gate to gate into the incursion system. Second is acceleration gates.

If CCP allows capitals to use acceleration gates what will that do? It will allow us to do nullsec/lowsec incursions AND escalations. What does that mean for the naysayers? MOAR content. You want more opportunities to hunt ratting carriers? There you go. Carriers in the 3rd room of the Blood 10/10 taking huge amounts of damage from that tower and the mass of battleships will be hard pressed to escape when you come in with your hunting party. HUGE risk. Decent rewards from those 10/10's... Incursions present a different angle, that nullsec mom offers the biggest reward of all, the Revenant BPC. GARGANTUAN Reward GARGANTUAN risk.

Throw us a bone CCP, you want to take all the positives away from carriers? OK we can't stop you, but throw me a freakin bone!

2) Docking in station. This is going to gather probably 6000 "No, just plain no" statements. Well again, listen. If you allow capitals to dock, it will allow those space coffin dwellers a chance to get out of them for one thing and be able to pee vee pee in other stuff. But it will also make those station and sov conquer mechanics more valuable wont they? You still have freeport mode, and that gives an attacker an opportunity to bring in their own capital fleet with a place to put them for good fights. Honestly, I would just like an opportunity to let the damn thing rust and not worry about it for awhile. I mean come on, if you are taking away all usefulness of the stupid things let us drydock them and walk away.

Either give us something to do with them, or give us a way to walk away.

Let the flaming begin.

I would say Fighter Assist would be by Bandwidth on ship, but that would be unfair for some ships.
So i will say Fighter Assist would be by the size of ship:
1 frigate
2 destroyer
3 cruiser
4 battlecruiser
and 5 Battleship.

I think that "skynetting", just like "hyperdunking" is a legitimate player-made tactic and should remain available to the players. Removing tactical options for people never seems like a good idea. Instead of removing this, a better option seems to lie in making the tactic a riskier practice. Examples of this include, making fighters scrammable, giving them a limited warp range, giving them a fuel time, increasing the distance that this can be done from POSes and stations, and/or decreasing or even removing any bonuses fighters receive from from carriers or supercarriers when not on grid with that carrier.

Well look at the bright side, at least you can dock your carrier and super carrier and let it rust away as they arent needed anymore!

If you had a Nyx, by the time you get it out of station you just might have a Hel instead as its rusted away so bad from not being used...

So does everyone else though.
And everyone else read the bragging about how broken assisting 50 fighters to an interceptor was even if it had to be on grid.
And the bragging about how the 50km POS bubble was easy to get around also.
And all the other bragging.

And so did CCP, hence why you didn't get assist as a replacement most likely.
Just take your carriers on grid, and launch fighters from 250km at stuff. Is it a nerf, Totally, sometimes nerfs are needed to things. And sometimes Nerfs are needed in one area before buffs can come in another. Because if you do both at once you can't see that the change has had its intended effect.