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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.14 00:01:00 -
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oh noes, we recorded you! the sky is falling the sky is falling! its the end of the world 
Seriously, some people take this far to serious...
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.14 08:46:00 -
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even dreads in siege cant stand up to the headshot macro!
but seriously, t1 named mods on a dread? cant you get Cryvok to give you the extra cash for a t2 cap recharger?
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.14 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck Edited by: DeadDuck on 14/10/2006 14:32:03 Edited by: DeadDuck on 14/10/2006 14:29:59
Originally by: End Yourself At least (unlike d2) bob doesn't nap everyone within 100 jumps anymore BD.
Oi the north is napped because the ones that didnt want D2+Allies friendship ended dead or tottaly defeated ... thats 8 alliances since April/2006 ... 
that still doesent change the fact that D2 is napped with everyone... and well, napping everyone and then bandwagoning the rest doesent make it better now does it?
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.14 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Fi T'Zeh
However, BoB engages in PvP, PvE, production, research, exploration and plays the markets via trade.
Thats nothing special, you know. Name one major alliance who doesn't do all those things.
seriously, lay off... We didnt say that no other alliance did all those things, we just pointed out that we, like alot of other people in eve, enjoy every aspect of it...
Unlike you who just troll on the forum. Did BoB steal your cookiejar or something? You accuse us of trolling and being disrespectful, but I have yet to see a respectful word come out of your keyboard towards anyone...
You should really take a break of the forums, because now its just getting silly.
You take any BoB reply, flame or not and post endless drivel. If its not a flame like this reply you take it out of context and then flame anyways.
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.14 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: BadManEdmundo
Originally by: Butter Dog ...
Are you gonna respond to the re-quotes?
his posting hour of the day is over, you have to wait till tomorrow
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.16 08:12:00 -
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lets sum it up shall we?
1. I have no life 2. I live in my mums basement 3. I am unemployed 4. I cheat in online games 5. I am a unproductive member of society 6. I most likely run over grannies when I see them (most likely in a stolen car, see above) 7. I now have ADHD, or ADD as it is also known
the same goes for the rest of my alliance.
gee thanks ASCN for pointing out the flaws in my life. Excuse me while I now have to go out to pick up my prescription ritalin... 
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.16 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Shigsy Has anyone got full stats for the war so far such as kills and losses for each ship group and stuff like that. Im not sure if it was already posted but i honestly cant be bothered to go through another bob ascn thread, been through the rest of them already 
your best bet would be going to the respective sides killboard and see for yourself, I cant link it to you, but there should be a link to both in the top sticky 
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.22 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq So what is this thing I read about lots of bob is going all out attack before quiting eve? Sounds like propaganda to me or is it something bob themselves have announced? maybe missed it among the hundreds of post about bob vs ascn.
please come join them in their attack against us because we are leaving eve in six months for POTBS 
Madeye Mcgreedy is claiming that we are leaving eve in six months. Compare that to the other things in his blogs and his other "intel" and then make up your own mind about it 
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.22 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Hast on 22/10/2006 11:40:34
Originally by: Rikeka
I`ll be told: ¿We don`t use propaganda, we don`t need it.¿ strikingly similar to: ¿We don`t use TS spies, we don`t need them.¿
[i]Disclaimer: This war is being fought in the game, and how some factions try to translate it here is stupid, childish, and pointless. There is also no point in compare with the BoB/GS war... because GS probably made something stupid, and got it coming.
Well, all sides us propaganda, but its a matter of backing it up ingame instead of crying foul on the forums. Because in the end, propaganda is a tool, it might work on its own for a while, but sooner or later action needs to be seen afterall. And this is where ASCN fails.
Fair point about the GS war tho, I'll give you that
Originally by: Rikeka
Not ACTUALLY claiming that whatever BoB members posts is automatically a lie. But as we have been lied before, why ponder on it? Nothing personal against BoB, every time I find one in battle is all ¿GG, GJ, GL, Cya¿.
Well, that is what we are here for. Want our respect? bring it, and you get respect. Win or loose, atleast you fought hard for your land. Sit in your POS all day, be bored and ridiculed, because that is all you deserve. Have 280 people spread out over 3 systems against 150 and refuse to engage? then you dont deserve to be in eve and we will wipe you out.
What bugged me the most about that incident last night was when your AZN fleet moved up to 2i and just sat there while you did your petty fighter bombings to wich we lost a total of one interdictor and you lost possibly a billion isk in fighters was sad. I sat up till almost 4am local time waiting for you guys to do something, wich you didnt. Why? you had superior numbers, you had capital ship support albeit you wasted alot of fighters doing nothing.
In the end it ended up with us jumping into 2i- and the node crashing. and then you scream exploit because we deliberatly crashed the node when you bring well over 250 people to fight, then the nodes will crash regardless of the size of the opposition. And yet again, no, we dont use any lame nodehax to log in faster.
Originally by: Rikeka
My point is that as only the stupid can fall for whatever BoB says (yes, I say this even when I truly believed once that TS spies were a myth) and post back, there is no point: ASCN is completely avoiding any BoB thread, so you`ll (by everyone) never get a full account of what is going on. That basically means that BoB says the truth? No.
[EDIT] And BoB will not go to POTBS... but don`t give them ideas.
When has it been said that BoB has not used TS spies? and if it was its called misinformation. And yet again I welcome you to expose any socalled BoB lie with proof. I am getting tired of being called a lier and then have no proof presented. Rikeka, I'm calling you out. Proof or shut up.
I realize that Rikeka is a member of Axiom empire and alot of this post is directed at ASCN, but meh, I cant be bothered.
P.S. Nice trying to spin sitting in a empty system for four hours being better then sitting at a POS for four hours and calling it a victory over BoB CYVOK
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.22 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Rikeka Edited by: Rikeka on 22/10/2006 11:15:27 Not checked this excuse of a thread since page 15.
Good choice, not much has come forth since then 
Originally by: Rikeka
Demonizing¿ BoB 101.
Now... BoB does not need ASCN private convos, private posts on private forums, or anything like it (first of all, who can tell us they are true? Remember we were once all told that BoB had no Teamspeak Spies! A BoB will probably come and tell us they are true... But you will actually 100% trust him? Never seen an ASCN member confirming them!) for them to feel offended! How can they be when they are the only people bumping this thread about them being offended? Attention *****s... j/k :D
Fact is I can`t tell what BoB posts on their forums because I have no forum spy nor TS spy (on them or anyone else, LOL). ASCN does? Dunno, for sure they are not sharing. Maybe BoB is using propaganda too, or worse, maybe BoB leaders are tampering the killboard, lying their members about their goals/success/etc?
First of all, if you managed to get on the BoB forums, you wouldnt find that much interesting, since there is just mostly naked pictures of Siddy there. And most of the interesting stuff is prolly in the forum section for the CEO's and directors. Thats lesson one in keeping security tight
Secondly, There is no denying that we both have spies and are using them, its just a matter of having a modus operandi that minimize the damage that said spies can do. Because there is ways you know, both on TS and on forums... And also, BoB works in a entirely different way then ASCN that makes it alot easier to weed out spies since we have stricter recruitment policies, better screening then most of the ASCN corps and you have to participate and make yourself useful if you want to enjoy your stay with us.
And regarding the socalled faking of killmails... its impossible, unless you have half of BoB involved in faking killmails, and then the leaderships point about boosting the average joe's morale would be nigh, since it would have to be them helping to fake killmails... I for one havent see any killmail I've been on that I cant remember being there shooting the guy. So it is impossible for the leadership to boost the stats to help morale, atleast in BoB. And doing so would only dig your own grave, because sooner or later the fish will smell rotten
Bottom line is, you cant lie to a BoB member like that because we are on the frontline seeing for ourselves what the deal is. We dont sit huddled away in empire waiting for the all clear
Originally by: Rikeka
How can we tell? Because 100 BoB`s will come here and tell me they don`t? Like with the TS thingie? We have been lied before with the TS thingie.
Will not fall for that one again.
As I`m not ASCN, never got the urge to join their forums, probably never will. Never tried to join BOB`s because there is no point. Plus, I`m no BoB.
What really is a BoB? Is it what we have been portrayed as by certain members of ASCN?
Is a BoB someone who lives in his moms basement using the headshot macro and generally not being a productive member of society as CYVOK eloquently put it?
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.22 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Hast on 22/10/2006 12:03:38
Originally by: Rikeka
Originally by: Hast What really is a BoB? Is it what we have been portrayed as by certain members of ASCN?
Is a BoB someone who lives in his moms basement using the headshot macro and generally not being a productive member of society as CYVOK eloquently put it?
Great post till here: WTF? Never talked about moms (sacred thing) and basements. Plus, if you are underage and you live in your parents house, it`s not like you have a choice.
(I say this even that whenever I get back to my family city for business I never stay in a hotel, if you know what I mean: Home-made cooking ftw!)
you said, I'm no Bob and I asked what is a Bob, I'm sorry if I misread your post, but as I said, it was more aimed at the socalled demonizing that ASCN has been using against us.
edit: and as I stated in the end of my post, it ended up being mostly aimed at ASCN anyways, so I'm afraid your just collateral damage  
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.22 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: fuze
Originally by: Rebellion Why can't ASCN, being the biggest and richest alliance in the game, fight BoB without demonizing us? What more motivation could be necessary when ASCN has the industrial capacity not to care about battleship losses? Why do things have to turn rancid?
Originally by: Hast you said, I'm no Bob and I asked what is a Bob, I'm sorry if I misread your post, but as I said, it was more aimed at the socalled demonizing that ASCN has been using against us.
Socalled eh? The two of you are out of sync apperently.
Originally by: DB Preacher It's complete lies, we'll be here when the servers close.
Guess we'll meet at the afterparty. Lemme buy you a beer then.
well, out of sync isnt quite correct. Its just that I dont like that term. They are calling us names tho. Getting called a unproductive member of society, quake kiddie and well a whole lot of other things really makes me cry. no really it does... 
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.22 14:34:00 -
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Edited by: Hast on 22/10/2006 14:35:34
Originally by: fuze
Originally by: Hast well, out of sync isnt quite correct. Its just that I dont like that term. They are calling us names tho. Getting called a unproductive member of society, quake kiddie and well a whole lot of other things really makes me cry. no really it does...
Hitting the bottle again? Ah......... how cute.
Btw good attempt to try to distract us from the fact that you were contradicting Rebellion.
I'm sorry contradicting how?
He uses the word demonizing, and I prefer to just say namecalling. Its just the wordusing thats different. The end result that ASCN wants to get is the same. And its also just two sides of the same coin. You are arguing semantics here and frankly, its boring and not really a issue imo. It seems to me that you have either misread or misinterpretated my post. Or I diffused my point to much.
Frankly I dont see the point in this discussion with you, because in the end ASCN leadership IS calling us names, wether you dub it namecalling or demonizing is just two sides of the same coin really.
edit: spelling
P.S. due to a viral infection I cant drink alcohol till mid january so my rantings are non alcoholrelated 
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.22 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: fuze
Originally by: Hast He uses the word demonizing, and I prefer to just say namecalling.
Did you read my reply to Rebellion then? How can you be complaining people want to demonize or namecall you or whatever if you have done exactly the same in the near past? Even crossing the border on common decency on that one if I might add.
And you know what? Its boring that when you're faced with your own facts and proof that you start trying to BS your way out of it because you don't like to loose this argument. Pot, kettle. Double standards or whatever.
Quote: Frankly I dont see the point in this discussion with you, because in the end ASCN leadership IS calling us names, wether you dub it namecalling or demonizing is just two sides of the same coin really.
What would you do if your ennemy used TS to call people to warp to their doom? Thats nasty suff.
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P.S. due to a viral infection I cant drink alcohol till mid january so my rantings are non alcoholrelated 
That would actually be my worst nightmare. Not drinking alcohol? Better get well soon then. 
Dont get me wrong, Calling us names is their perogative and I am not bothered by it myself. And I dont think anyone else in BoB is bothered by it at all. If thats all they can do then just let them.
The goon issue is somewhat different in my opinion and is a path I thread lightly in due to it still being a sore subject for many. Because what was at the bottom of that was that a dear friend of alot of people had passed away and they took their pleasure in making fun of his death.
Thats as far as I'm going to go with the whole goon issue, although I could probably write a few more pages about it. Its two different ballgames so the two incidents cant really be compared. You can type whatever you want but I'm not going into a discussion about goons here nor anywhere else. I prefer to let that issue on my part rest for a while.
as for the enemy to use TS to warp to their doom... If someone was so stupid to fall for that trick then they werent listening to their gangleader and deserved to die...
As for having your spy be the gangleader, then kudos, you just won eve! 
as for the alcohol, I currently have two rather large bottles of whiskey I was going to drink the weekend after I got sick, but they are still sitting there staring back at me.  and they are just begging to be opened... I think I'll ***** somewhere around christmas 
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: fuze
Originally by: Hast Dont get me wrong, Calling us names is their perogative and I am not bothered by it myself. And I dont think anyone else in BoB is bothered by it at all. If thats all they can do then just let them.
First you start whining about ASCN calling you names and then you don't seem to mind anymore? But when I started poking you and you had to switch your opinion about it? Are you a politician or what?
As far as discrediting ASCN atm anything goes right? I guess thats your weakness. Partly depending on the forums about the outcome of this war. And you already have admitted commiting way to many lies a deciet that its becomming harder to get any credability with the general public. Try to do better.
I fear your sarcasm detector is broke
Originally by: Hast
well, out of sync isnt quite correct. Its just that I dont like that term. They are calling us names tho. Getting called a unproductive member of society, quake kiddie and well a whole lot of other things really makes me cry. no really it does... 
now where is the whining about namecalling?
and again back to full circle with being called a lier again. and yet again I reiterate my statement. Proof of BoB lying or making up stuff against ASCN please?
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.22 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: fuze
Originally by: Hast I fear your sarcasm detector is broke
Sorry, used the spare parts for the BS detector. 
Originally by: Hast
well, out of sync isnt quite correct. Its just that I dont like that term. They are calling us names tho. Getting called a unproductive member of society, quake kiddie and well a whole lot of other things really makes me cry. no really it does... 
Originally by: Hast now where is the whining about namecalling?
I made it bold for you so you can see it better. Mkay?
since you have figured out what the bolding button on the forums does I thought I'd highlight the sarcasm part. And yet again you are reduced to arguing semantics...
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.24 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: RogueWing
Originally by: Kar'Dargo Any, third party update on the status of the war with Bob and ASCN current?
I'm not third party, but it's pretty much the same as it was last week. TCAG and GQ2 are still the primary areas of battle with smaller skirmishes breaking out in a few other areas. Neither side shows signs of slowing down or giving up.
nothing is happening in tcag tbh...
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: TheKiller8
Originally by: D75485 I only want to know how both sides are doing ?
Pretty much what you'd expect
- BoB hasn't captured any outposts
- ASCN hasn't captured any outposts
- BoB pvp's better than ASCN
I demand a flash movie
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.10.26 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: D75485 looks like ascn is having fun and bob is not lol
infact you are correct. The fact that the US crew demolished 7 dreads while I was asleep has taken all the fun out of this game for me. 
I will now leave BoB and go join ASCN and die by the droves
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
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