Redistributing wealth is not by definition theft if the wealth is question was acquired by extremely questionable means in the first place. Intense lobbying, en entire party of sycophants, governments contracts and constant nagging to lower taxes for the rich.

Crying for wealth distribution is stupid. Your tune would be completely different if your the guy with the wealth. If your the guy that worked 16 hours a day, focused, researched and made smart investments and all that crap you deserve it.

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I should have known that Eve would have libertarians.

Redistributing wealth is not by definition theft if the wealth is question was acquired by extremely questionable means in the first place. Intense lobbying, en entire party of sycophants, governments contracts and constant nagging to lower taxes for the rich. But I am a captain of industry!!! I don't need the gubmint!
Well the fact is that the rich have no qualms with modifying the system to make themselves richer and that right now they aren't even paying their fair share of taxes. That's selfishness.

By the way the occupiers know what they want, they've voted on many manifestos', but Fox news keeps trying to ridicule them by saying they have no idea what they're fighting for ( It's just not true)

I am just left of a libertarian indeed. I need only look towards Europe right now for a reminder as to why.

Because of course the entire crashing economy which was started by the busted bubble of the deregulated US housing industry is due to not enough deregulation.

And you so glibly accuse people of getting their news from one source. YOU my friend need to branch out. A little Fox will round you out a bit. I watch and read a bunch. New York Times every day at work (which is akin to reading the enemies daily plans) and Wall Street Journal every night (which is like a cozy blanket to return my faith in humanity). Throw in some Fox when I want headlines andlocal news again when I want theliberal spin. Well rounded I am indeed.

Here's a tip too, if you can't watch Fox or any other right-leaning institution without getting furious you have a problem. You should be able to watch and read from all sources. Otherwise you're just not worth listening to.

Bolded and underlined the parts that betray you being the one who's probably furious. The part that really cracks me up though is the Wall Street Journal as a cozy blanket restoring faith in humanity. The visual and the irony.

Anyway, I'll expand my previous attribution of stupidity in this thread.

Pocos were a stupid idea. An "occupy Jita" protest to complain about them is a stupid idea. Right winger critiques in this thread of occupy movements in rl and in-game are stupid.

Even more irony, this thread may receive a lock soon.

That's not how people get rich. You fail.

Critiquing and criticizing other people without a rebuttle is lazy.

I think perhaps I fell for the old adage of arguing with the feeble minded. They do indeed drag you down to their level and WhompYourAss with experience. Kudos sir, well played, I yield.

Yes, yes, you certainly rebutted Krios Ahzek's argument when he responded to you and said:

"Because of course the entire crashing economy which was started by the busted bubble of the deregulated US housing industry is due to not enough deregulation."

when you said:

"And you so glibly accuse people of getting their news from one source. YOU my friend need to branch out. A little Fox will round you out a bit. I watch and read a bunch. New York Times every day at work (which is akin to reading the enemies daily plans) and Wall Street Journal every night (which is like a cozy blanket to return my faith in humanity). Throw in some Fox when I want headlines and local news again when I want the liberal spin. Well rounded I am indeed.

Here's a tip too, if you can't watch Fox or any other right-leaning institution without getting furious you have a problem. You should be able to watch and read from all sources. Otherwise you're just not worth listening to."

Well played indeed.

Please have it locked, but do not start over

Polotics arent up for discussion.

Either way if you have a new player come into the game and start PI today he'd feel that the taxes are normal.

NEXT UP ON THE NERF BAT

DATA CORES and RP POINTS

Crybabies ITT.

Fair enough.

The housing crisis was caused by a government ideology that purported that everyone deserves a house of their own. They aided the cause via federally backed, Fannie and Freddy. As they were federally backed there was not anywhere near the risk assessment that a privately held bank would exercise. Why would they? They are not accountable to shareholders with pitchforks and torches.

Not to mention, and this is the real killer, the aforementioned owned something like 90% of the secondary market. Meaning they were buying up mortgages originated by others faster than fat kids gobble up doughnuts. It didn't take the originators long to figure out that they could loan money to ANYONE without risk as they would simply sell the mortgage to Fannie and Freddy the next day anyway. Take their paycheck and move on to the next guy that had no business buying a home.

Think about it too, who can blame the mortgage originators? Suddenly you have a no risk, government-backed free ticket to loan monty. The government has effectively told you that you can loan any amount to anybody and we'll assume the debt. Naturally they were falling over themselves to offer loans. Naturally a LOT of those loans went to people whom didn't have a prayer of seeing the loan to maturity.

Following the rabbit hole further and it's not hard to understand that home builders were artificially inflated as the demand for houses obviously skyrocketed and the landscape was filled with new homes. People were buying them faster than they could be built.

Lo and behold the inevitable happened and all of these people whom got easy loans couldn't actually afford their new homes, they began forclosing in droves. Leaving us with a glut of empty houses that need to be resold before we can ever recover. The answer is more foreclosures. Until they've all forclosed we can't recover.

So yea, definitely we need more government involvement in housing. They've done a real bang up job so far

Meanwhile in Canada....

None of this happened because our central bank actually put rules in place that stop it from happening.

SOCIALISM! It works, bitches

Except now we have a ******** prime minister that's trying to unravel it all and drag us in the dirt along with you.

What ever happened to that promise not to meddle in the market anymore, CCP?

And ammo. Don't forget ammo. Every time those guns fire, CCP needs to tax it so that more isk leaves the game.

That, after all, would be the best ISK sink that could possibly exist in eve. It'd be right up there with taxing 5% on every unit of minerals mined, with an index based on the average price of mins. That would be an ideal way to drive up the price of mins as well. Make veldspar cost 500 per unit.

The problem is when CCP meddles in the market, the effects are massive and reach much farther then planned. Which was, after all, the reason that they hired an economist in the first place, as several such attempts in the past blew up spectacularly in game.

Quote or it didnt happen.

Economy Harder

That economist job is to recommend economic changes against game play changes. Remember the refine nerfs? Every suggestion that comes out of that Dev that gets implimented will make your high sec safe life that much harder, that I can gaurantee.

Mining the activity of is an isk sink as well if you cannot figure that out jump out the nearest airlock. Its only an Mineral Faucet.

While we are at it lets make refine taxes higher in high sec to the point it requires extremly high standings are required to be tax free. Then make thier efficency lower to the point youd need near perfect skills to get away scot free without goofing up.

Bottom Line is I want to be able to make low and null just as appealing or encourage more teamwork to overcome the disadvantages of high sec.

1. PCU says otherwise
2. If they can make money doing something else why would they be asshurt?

Seriously, if everyone is really worked up about PI taxes, take a lesson from the NeX protests and see how much time can dilate in Jita.

You add taxes into price that you are asking. It's very simple.