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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.13 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: SwindonBadger on 13/10/2006 11:36:59
they dont mention haulers on the points system does that mean u can use 2 faction bs and 3 haulers?
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Sivona
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.13 11:43:00 -
[32]
 Originally by: SwindonBadger
Edited by: SwindonBadger on 13/10/2006 11:36:59
they dont mention haulers on the points system does that mean u can use 2 faction bs and 3 haulers?
I dont know, it was the comedy option, i was considering of getting MC to field with 3 Indies and 2 hulks setup with EW which tbh sounds a lot more fun than the joke that is the rules now, i dont know why they put someone so clueless in charge of it tbh.
As things stand i cba to enter the 'who locks first contest' and the rest of the mc arn't looking very enthusiastic about it.
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Serilla
The Syndicate Inc
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.13 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Serilla on 13/10/2006 14:46:12
Who can lock the fastest and whose FoF missiles pick the same target... sounds fun
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theforce
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.13 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
TBH, I'd save the four points for the final... when you might really need them... against BoB or MC. 
That is... assuming the EW idiocy doesn't **** me off and cause me to just self-destruct my whole team because some guy in a Rifter keeps jamming me. 
hmm was mc in the final in the last tournament?
No didn't think so
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Horatio Starkiller
Minmatar
TAOSP
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 15:04:00 -
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Edited by: Horatio Starkiller on 13/10/2006 15:09:55
tbh it should be like this holoreel i once watched... "Karate Kid III" kinda appropriate since this is the 3rd tourny, anyway story goes that the winner of the previous tourny doesn't fight till the last match to defend their title.
/me imagines SirMolle inspecting the troops and leaning in to whisper "Wax On Wax Off, and you shall win".
edit: ofc many of me comrades might be angry at suggesting that we miss out on 90% of the fights  so ignore that idea it's still a funny one tho
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Lord Boxxer
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Posted - 2006.10.13 15:35:00 -
[36]
Woohoo!
1xScorp
1xRook
1xBlackbird
2xGriffin
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Dracolich
North Star Networks
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Posted - 2006.10.14 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Boxxer
Woohoo!
1xScorp
1xRook
1xBlackbird
2xGriffin
Where is the firepower? What happens then, when u have run out of cap, and realize you have achieved absolutely nothing?
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Xianthar
Sha Kharn Corp
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.14 16:32:00 -
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all this really means is that everyone is going to fit backup arrays....for instance scorp with 2 tII backups has ~50 sensor strength hac with backups has similar. honestly considering the current state of small gang pvp i'm not sure why people arn't fitting backups all the time.
-xian
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Pehova Mindtriq
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.14 16:43:00 -
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Don't see why this tourney is a disadvantage for bob. Looks like they have the advantage with the rules.
1. All available ships in EVE are allowed (Tech 2, faction, etc.)
2. All T1 and T2 drones and modules are allowed. COSMOS modules are allowed.
3. All implants are allowed.
If it would cost 100billion isk to fit all the ships for this tourney bob probably would do it anyway and there are few alliances out there that are ready to put so much isk into this I think. SP+isk is the key to victory not player skills.
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aeti
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.14 16:46:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq
SP+isk is the key to victory not player skills.
neh
ECM is the key to victory ;[
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.14 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq
Don't see why this tourney is a disadvantage for bob. Looks like they have the advantage with the rules.
1. All available ships in EVE are allowed (Tech 2, faction, etc.)
2. All T1 and T2 drones and modules are allowed. COSMOS modules are allowed.
3. All implants are allowed.
If it would cost 100billion isk to fit all the ships for this tourney bob probably would do it anyway and there are few alliances out there that are ready to put so much isk into this I think. SP+isk is the key to victory not player skills.
That's utter rubbish.
Our team in the last tournament cost nowhere near as much as some. Our fittings, ships and implants were considered, by many, to be "useless". We were the only team to use a logistics cruiser and our top two ships beat down 4/5ths of the IAC team from scratch after the logistics cruiser crashed.
Don't even try to put down the man hours of preperation, discussion and thought that all of us, and especially TWD, put in to prepping and thinking through the team we put forward. It makes you look stupid.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.14 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: aeti
Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq
SP+isk is the key to victory not player skills.
neh
ECM is the key to victory ;[
Funny thing is that celes isn't aware of this.
Sig is not eve related
Eve related?
Copyright of ISD?
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Sebroth
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.14 17:52:00 -
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ItÆs clear that the next tournament will be all Caldari with some surprise mixes just to make sure the team using all Caldari racial ECM get screwed over.
Why?
We have 4 types of EW in game Target painter, ECM, Tracking disruptors and Dampers.
Dampers: Best defence vs dampers are long locking range or a short range weapon systems.
So this means Caldari/Gallente.
ECM: Best defence vs ECM is to be the first one using it and if you missed out on that one hi sensor strength. If you get unlucky and get jammed you still have 2 ways to hurt your foe: drones and fof missiles. This means Caldrari/Gallente.
TD: If faced with tracking disruptor you best way out is to be using a weapon system that it has zero effect on aka missiles or possible drones. Caldari/Gallente here as well.
TP: You canÆt really counter target painters but you will get best result from them if you are a missile user. The last one says Caldari.
Further only one EW system ****s your ability to aid your friends tanking in a great way and that is ECM, in a tight formation you can still lock your friend even if you are damped to hell. ECM is also the only EW that doesnÆt have any stacking penalties.
Caldari has:
Highest sensor strength
Longest lock range
Most mid slots
Most launcher hard points
The only ships with ECM bonuses
After Caldari, Gallente would be best I believe since they have the highest dmg output at short range, lots of drones (and ok amount of mid slots on their drone ships) and if IÆm not mistaken they do have the CS with the bonus for EW gang mods. We will not see a single Amarr ship except possibly recons fielded by some Amarr loving alliance like the pesky CVA.
So scorpions (or ravens for better dmg) fitted with cruise missile launchers (for fof and better hits on ecm fitted frigs/cruisers), nos (to keep you ecm running and make sure they cant use theirs), sensor boosters (to make sure you get the first lock), ecm (make sure they cant lock you), eccm (if you not get the first lock) and bcu (to kill them before you running out of luck with your ecm) will be the norm.
HURRAY THIS WILL BA SO ******* FUN!!!! or not
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Carth Jared
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.14 18:58:00 -
[44]
Originally by: theforce
Originally by: Seleene
TBH, I'd save the four points for the final... when you might really need them... against BoB or MC.
That is... assuming the EW idiocy doesn't **** me off and cause me to just self-destruct my whole team because some guy in a Rifter keeps jamming me.
hmm was mc in the final in the last tournament?
No didn't think so
We would have been if the node hadnt crashed on us...
Oh sh*t wrong discussion
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.14 19:21:00 -
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TBH, EW aside, these will be LONG fights. many probably will not end with complete destruction of the other team.
why?
ew ships dont usually do enough damage to break tanks the likes of which we have seen in the past tournament. especially an all caldari shield tanking team.
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.14 19:26:00 -
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Isn't the ewar discussion a bit moot now? I thought ccp had changed their mind on that?
If they haven't then they're monumentally stupid, the whole point is watching armor go up and down - stopping people firing isn't very "exciting".
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Posted - 2006.10.14 20:47:00 -
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is this not gona happen post ECM nerf?
perhaps it wount be such an iwin button then
also i think it should be a everything goes match, that way u can use the results to balance the game!
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Hydraxian
Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.10.14 21:49:00 -
[48]
If Kali isnt out for the tourny and bug fixed ect. there is going to be hell to pay...
Signature hijacks ftw
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.15 01:56:00 -
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sigh
unless something changes at the meeting (assuming there will actually be one ) this is going to be pretty lame to say the least :/
oh well, we'll enter regardless
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