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Wars have already been nerfed into oblivion and are (still) way too easy to avoid.
They need a buff, not "yet another nerf"

I like this idea on the basis that you could shoot a POS to Awox your corp mates.

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Wars have already been nerfed into oblivion and are (still) way too easy to avoid.
They need a buff, not "yet another nerf"

This is very true! I feel the problem is that corps are a 'one size fits all' type deal. No matter what you intend for your corp - PvP, industry, exploration, PvE, social, etc... - there is only one type of corp you can create.

I would suggest that corps be separated into two tiers - those registered with Concord and those that are not.

If I want to wardec you and destroy your structures, I should be able to do so, your changes make that imposible if you do not explictely allow me to do so.

it'd require mechanics tweaks to stop it being oppressive/completely ******* indy corps being able to come out of nowhere and reinforce x number of structures without the standard give 24 hour notice/pull everything down/flip to another corp bullshit may be a decent part of a wardec revamp..

Why? Just shoot the POS, wait for the reinforcement timer to run out and wreck it. If the POS owner does not show up, good. If the corp has some balls you get your war. Or another corp jumps in to shoot you providing content.

"Remove the non-consensual wardec mechanism"

"shooting corp property (e.g. POS) triggers a corp-wide suspect timer for 48h"

Yes, please. My alliance has been under constant wardec for years, it'll be nice to be able to undock in Jita again, and nothing bad could possibly happen.

Remove the current wardec mechanism and replace it by a corp-level crimewatch mechanic, with the following new stats:

1. wardecs become mutual corp duels

2. shooting corp property (e.g. POS) triggers a corp-wide suspect timer for 48h (read: "corp being on the warpath"), the CEO/directors get new corp-wide safety settings, to decide if line members are allowed to go "corp suspect"

3. shooting back or repping the property triggers a limited engagement timer between the involved corps for 24h, exempt automatic fire (e.g. unpiloted POS guns)

There may be some tweaking required to clearly separate personal flags from corp flags and with the timers, but those are the core elements which base on a well-established and working mechanic.

Pros:
- simple, no new mechanic needed
- shall create more conflict as the bureaucratic barriers and costs to start a war are removed
- shall serve corps which don't need properties, they are essentially safe from wars (no need for "social corps" - not to be confused with clubs)
- owning properties in space means you have to fight for, or you will lose it
- every corp can join the war on the defender side by shooting "corp suspects"

Cons:
- Corps with properties in highsec which can't/wan't to fight, can be wrecked easier. is this too much of risk?
- Goons will be happy to get rid of constant wardecs ...

What do you think?

EDIT: I will update with feedback.

Corps that do want to own POCOs and POSs, tax their members, and rent offices, etc... would have to register with Concord for the right to do so. This would make them eligible to be war decced. Finally, every character who has ever been in one of these Concord registered corps would gain a new public attribute: Desertions. Concord will treat deserters like benefit frauds and charge them extra for the creation of new corporations. Every time you dodge a war dec, it will be more expensive to create your new corp! Players will be able to see how many times new applicants have deserted their previous corps and choose not to recruit flakes.

The attacker goes suspect, not the defender. The defender can decide to fight or not, but see my answer above. No more Concord, the attacker can just keep shooting. It's about balancing the risk/reward.

You could just head out to Null sec, Low Sec, and W-Space and find lots of people to participate in a war.

But that would mean they would shoot back.

And that's the problem, you would find someone willing to fight.

You could just head out to Null sec, Low Sec, and W-Space and find lots of people to participate in a war.

But that would mean they would shoot back.

And that's the problem, you would find someone willing to fight.

1. wardecs become mutual corp duels

Why do you think you should be immune to PVP?

In Eve, the people who do not want a fight are often the people you most need to shoot.

That applies not only in highsec, but also in null, low and WH space.

As to the OP, while this would give corps without assets much more safety, wouldn't make it trivial for a PvP corp to just roam highsec shooting every single structure and force a bunch of wars or make corps take down their POSes? With no barrier to entry, they could attack literally everyone making highsec much more dangerous for the small corps that rely on CONCORD to defend their structures.

Not sure I support it, but an interesting idea.

So because my corpmate legally agressed the wartarget's POCO in Perimeter, I go suspect and get shot by *anyone* in Amarr for the next two days... That sounds logical.

[...] like paying concord to help with fire power[...]

Who said anything about being immune. Just because you declare war doesn't mean someone has to fight. Apparently that's a hard concept for you to grasp.

Why are you afraid to go to war against players who are also looking to fight?

No need to answer, you don't want a war. You just want easy targets, someone who wont fight back.

Stop hiding in hi-sec to avoid the pvp you say you want.

Yes, please. My alliance has been under constant wardec for years, it'll be nice to be able to undock in Jita again, and nothing bad could possibly happen.

Perhaps if they want to make it so there is always a possibility of danger in high sec, they need to make it possible to run away from Concord if you're good enough. That would actually make being a small time pirate in high sec really, really fun I think, trying to dodge them... but then this isn't about that so I'll stop brain storming down that path.