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Demonica II
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Posted - 2006.10.13 01:59:00 -
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Just how far is RA going to go with farming complexes? They have forces camped in the last level of blood 6/10 complexes in aridia, they got people watching over/running the UTK serpentis 10/10 complex in SYNDICATE! Thats about as far away from their home space as they can get, of course the characters doing the farming arn't actually in the alliance, but they have been linked to RA many times.
How long until RA have characters parked in every complex in EVE? Are they really this dedicated at farming on such a grand scale to fund their EVE wars? Damn it, i hate to say it, but i think ccp turns a blind eye to what is actually going on here.
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xeom
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.10.13 02:02:00 -
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Err so whats stoping you from camping it yourself and killing them?
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FFGR
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.10.13 02:08:00 -
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Lister Black
The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.13 02:09:00 -
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What a great post! If only we had a special forum to discuss the comings and goings of corporations and alliances. A "Corporations, Alliance and Organization Discussion" forum if you will...
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Dirtball
Celtic Anarchy Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.13 02:18:00 -
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at least they have to fight over them
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Rift Scorn
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Demonica II Are they really this dedicated at farming on such a grand scale to fund their EVE wars?.
Fund their mortgage more like.
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McDeth187
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 02:19:00 -
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I hear RA dies just like any other corp when you shoot them, C/D?
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lister Black What a great post! If only we had a special forum to discuss the comings and goings of corporations and alliances. A "Corporations, Alliance and Organization Discussion" forum if you will...
Wait a second...
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Demonica II
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Posted - 2006.10.13 02:37:00 -
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Edited by: Demonica II on 13/10/2006 02:38:52
Originally by: xeom Err so whats stoping you from camping it yourself and killing them?
What's stopping me is I dont play this game to pay as my job and they do, they put the dedication and effort into farming the complexes because their way of life depends on it, when you are fighting for fun and your opponent is fighting so he can put food onto the table, who do you think is going to win most of the time?
Most complexes in EVE now have RA and their alts farming them every day like clockwork, They are expanding outward to new complexes at a rapid pace since the bugged 8/10 complex had its long awaited fix. They have an obvious isk farming operation of a grand scale, and what for? For their ingame wars? I dont think so.
Remove all complexes from the game and see what they do then, or better yet, remove them from the game dont lose game content because of some huge farming operation. They've been allowed to get away with this for so long that over time they have just expanded more and more to the point where most of EVE's complexes are being farmed by them.
Those isk sellers you see on ebay shifting many multiple billions of isk daily, who do you think they are? Macrominers? Macromining doesn't make that kind of isk, all that isk has got to be coming from somewhere, it certainly doesn't come from macrominers or out of thin air.
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Sorja
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.10.13 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Demonica II ... they put the dedication and effort into farming the complexes because their way of life depends on it, when you are fighting for fun and your opponent is fighting so he can put food onto the table...
If that doesn't get you banned, I don't know what will...
Racism in a game, what next?
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CharlieMurphy
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2006.10.13 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja
Originally by: Demonica II ... they put the dedication and effort into farming the complexes because their way of life depends on it, when you are fighting for fun and your opponent is fighting so he can put food onto the table...
If that doesn't get you banned, I don't know what will...
Racism in a game, what next?
Sposing its the truth (i have no idea if it is or not)but should thr truth be censored because some people find a way to take offense with it?
the statement doesnt look terribly racist to me anyway
the way to fix complex farming is only allow people to use them once a month a determined force could still farm but at the very least you wouldnt see the same player in there day after day
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Razin
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Posted - 2006.10.13 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Lister Black What a great post! If only we had a special forum to discuss the comings and goings of corporations and alliances. A "Corporations, Alliance and Organization Discussion" forum if you will...
Wait a second...
Except that trolling alts like Demonica II aren't allowed to post there. And rightly so. ... |

Deros
Minmatar Black Omega Security The OSS
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Posted - 2006.10.13 03:07:00 -
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right, so i guess you are a BRS alt yeh?
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2006.10.13 03:08:00 -
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/emote Sets up a shop selling tinfoil hats.
This still doesn't answer the question of why you can't just kill them. Obviously they are not in high-sec space.
But it is true. RA is behind everything bad in EVE. In fact I heard they use the money to fund wars in an attempt to cause lag and server crashes so that it drives up the price of ISK so that they get better profits! It makes sense! You can't prove it doesn't!
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Nebuli
Caldari Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.10.13 03:22:00 -
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What I always found strange, and had ALOT of experiance with RED and plexs in the south, is that every single spawn time, every day, week in, week out, will have RED suddenly log on to run it.
Now if you figure in that the first spawn is after downtime, second is around midnight, and third is a few hours before downtime, you have to have no job, you have to change your sleep pattern to fit in with the times perfectly.
No one does this for just in-game gain, give up your job, basicaly give up your entire life just so you can make money in an online game?
Either VERY sad, or youre making real life money off it, it realy is as simple as that, and I'm sure there arent THAT many people in RED that are THAT sad......
Thats why its so hard to stop them from running plexs, because to stop them you basicaly have to dedicate your entire life to doing so, and not many people are willing to do that.
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Sorja
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.10.13 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: CharlieMurphy
Originally by: Sorja
Originally by: Demonica II ... they put the dedication and effort into farming the complexes because their way of life depends on it, when you are fighting for fun and your opponent is fighting so he can put food onto the table...
If that doesn't get you banned, I don't know what will...
Racism in a game, what next?
Sposing its the truth (i have no idea if it is or not)but should thr truth be censored because some people find a way to take offense with it?
the statement doesnt look terribly racist to me anyway
I'm not russian and find those comments absolutely unacceptable, like it's unacceptable to read racist comments about asians being farmers or whatnot, whether it's true or not. I know of british and american pilots being banned for ISK affairs against the EULA, does it give anyone the right to generalize and say british and americans are cheaters?
Certainly not, because it is racism and that's against the EULA.
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Nifel
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja
Originally by: CharlieMurphy
Originally by: Sorja
Originally by: Demonica II ... they put the dedication and effort into farming the complexes because their way of life depends on it, when you are fighting for fun and your opponent is fighting so he can put food onto the table...
If that doesn't get you banned, I don't know what will...
Racism in a game, what next?
Sposing its the truth (i have no idea if it is or not)but should thr truth be censored because some people find a way to take offense with it?
the statement doesnt look terribly racist to me anyway
I'm not russian and find those comments absolutely unacceptable, like it's unacceptable to read racist comments about asians being farmers or whatnot, whether it's true or not. I know of british and american pilots being banned for ISK affairs against the EULA, does it give anyone the right to generalize and say british and americans are cheaters?
Certainly not, because it is racism and that's against the EULA.
It's not racism. So far I've seen no race called either britians, americans, russians or chinese. And for the asian comment it's more about geography than race (lots of ISK farmers from Asia, the continent).
Grow some thicker hide pls...
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Nebuli
Caldari Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.10.13 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja
Originally by: CharlieMurphy
Originally by: Sorja
Originally by: Demonica II ... they put the dedication and effort into farming the complexes because their way of life depends on it, when you are fighting for fun and your opponent is fighting so he can put food onto the table...
If that doesn't get you banned, I don't know what will...
Racism in a game, what next?
Sposing its the truth (i have no idea if it is or not)but should thr truth be censored because some people find a way to take offense with it?
the statement doesnt look terribly racist to me anyway
I'm not russian and find those comments absolutely unacceptable, like it's unacceptable to read racist comments about asians being farmers or whatnot, whether it's true or not. I know of british and american pilots being banned for ISK affairs against the EULA, does it give anyone the right to generalize and say british and americans are cheaters?
Certainly not, because it is racism and that's against the EULA.
Not seeing a race mentioned in this post, except in your reply, where is the racism, I'm not seeing it?
CEO - Art of War
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CharlieMurphy
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2006.10.13 03:40:00 -
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Edited by: CharlieMurphy on 13/10/2006 03:42:05
Quote: I'm not russian and find those comments absolutely unacceptable
im not russian either and the post doesnt bother me in the slightest if you arnt russian why do you even care? If i see an asian isk farming i will point and say look there is an asian farmer its not racism its just fact
I also beleive the OP mentioned a corp not a nationality are you being racist by suggesting that corp is all one nationality 
Edit:bah beaten to it
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franny
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.10.13 03:49:00 -
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bah, what happened to the good old days, when everyone had to fight the Polish for that plex
PTF/Bermuda/BRS used to love fighting for that plex, I know I have the kill and loss mails from them in UTKS
did BRS turn into empire carebears?
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Nebuli
Caldari Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.10.13 03:56:00 -
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Originally by: franny bah, what happened to the good old days, when everyone had to fight the Polish for that plex
PTF/Bermuda/BRS used to love fighting for that plex, I know I have the kill and loss mails from them in UTKS
did BRS turn into empire carebears?
Us and BRS pooned Bermudas 4 Carriers in one go, they havnt been seen since.
PTF I have no knowlege of.
And BRS are actively fighting for the plex, but as stated earlier, unless you dedicate your life to stopping others that dedicate their life to running it, you arent going to stop them, especialy when they have other alliances that dont seem to mind them doing it and actively support them in doing it.
CEO - Art of War
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Mak'shar Karrde
Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.13 04:19:00 -
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Edited by: Mak''shar Karrde on 13/10/2006 04:20:52 For all their suspect actions in game, RA are one of the most dedicated alliances I have seen in any MMOG. If they can run all those complexes without exploiting then congrats to them. It's up to the rest of us to force them out if we want but it definetly won't be easy. They will be there day after day fighting for it. They are organised, they are experianced and they don't mind waking up at 4 in the morning if that is when they're most likely to succeed.
Now I've no doubt they've, shall we say, pushed the boundries at times, but even without that they would still be the pains in the arse they are today. And I mean it in the good way, it's always nice to have good enemys to fight. It makes victories that much more enjoyable.
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Jiam Grymauch
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Posted - 2006.10.13 04:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja
Originally by: Demonica II ... they put the dedication and effort into farming the complexes because their way of life depends on it, when you are fighting for fun and your opponent is fighting so he can put food onto the table...
If that doesn't get you banned, I don't know what will...
Racism in a game, what next?
No *****, it is called an opinion.
Try to quit stifling other peoples. Thanks. 
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Kaiu
Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.10.13 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Rift Scorn
Originally by: Demonica II Are they really this dedicated at farming on such a grand scale to fund their EVE wars?.
Fund their mortgage more like.
That some racist anti-russian thing ? ____________________ MOGarmy
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Johnny Bravo
Gallente Draconis Navitas Aeterna Pure.
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Posted - 2006.10.13 04:44:00 -
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Contrary to popular belief, ppls what what play EvE to fund they RL life are useally dont run plexes. Most of them easely found rather in empire macromining or 0.0 10-box mining. Each mining barge in 0.0 will easely get you 600-700 mil a day, and you can get many of them running at the same time. So better look for these ISK ebayers in major "safe" alliances like ACSN, D2, etc.
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Kelgen Thann
SUBLIME L.L.C. Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.13 05:25:00 -
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I love how racisim came up in this thread. This is like a black guy being accused of committing a crime and playing a race card 
If they are faming isk then they are.. So what. If a bunch of players move in and camp it takes another group to move them out. OR be a pain for them and when they are taking attack their tank and warp out.
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Weirda
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age
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Posted - 2006.10.13 05:30:00 -
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sorja just bummed because got smacked down about saying something about chinese people logging.
Weirda read 'in soviet russia, the complex farm YOU' somewhere, that was funny.  __ Weirda Join QOTSA Now Stealth Bomber Tweaks |

Bohoba
Caldari The Dark Angles
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Posted - 2006.10.13 05:53:00 -
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found to be bot's most of them. timed to the (T)
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Nebuli
Caldari Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.10.13 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kaiu
Originally by: Rift Scorn
Originally by: Demonica II Are they really this dedicated at farming on such a grand scale to fund their EVE wars?.
Fund their mortgage more like.
That some racist anti-russian thing ?
Think some people realy need to learn what racism means 
CEO - Art of War
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.10.13 06:37:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 13/10/2006 06:44:22
Originally by: Kaiu
Originally by: Rift Scorn
Originally by: Demonica II Are they really this dedicated at farming on such a grand scale to fund their EVE wars?.
Fund their mortgage more like.
That some racist anti-russian thing ?
First of all, RA are international. But ok, the poster probably meant the eastern europeans or even russians in RA. Then it's still just smack or a predjudice, but can't be racism, because noone would call russians, eastern europeans etc. a race. What he meant was the inhabitants of a few countries, but no race.
Same as if people say something against Germans, which sometimes happens. I don't see that as racism, because we are no race, I just see it as stupid smack from some idiot. 
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