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un5een
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.13 17:08:00 -
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basicly i thought about a more speciffic role on the raptor,ares, stiletto and malediction. no need for a change in the slot layout or cpu/powergrid or other ship stats! just overworking the boni they'll receive.
it would basicly go like this
ares: gal frig boni - +5% to thermal missile dmg and +5% to agility ceptor boni - +10% to warpdisruptor range and -7.5% sig radius
malediction: amarr frig boni - +5% to emp missile dmg and +5% to base speed ceptor boni - +10% to stasis web range and -7.5% sig radius
raptor: caldari frig boni - +5% to kinetic missile dmg and +5% to base speed ceptor boni - -10% reduction in warpdisruptor cap need and -7.5% sig radius
stiletto: mini frig boni - +5% to explosive missile dmg and +5% agility ceptor boni - +10% stasis web range and -7.5% sig radius
well yeah... i think about more specialized tackler ships. not that the current ceptors werent used to be tacklers, but their boni only go to dmg-mods. these ships just would do crap dmg but they're faster more agile and harder to hit...
what do u think? ----------------------------------------------- there are 6 million ways to die... chose one! - i chose LAG
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.13 17:24:00 -
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for the stilletto they would be fine if the little ****s weren't so heavey. I dunno why ccp made the one pure tackling ceptor the slowest 
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.10.13 18:10:00 -
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Why are they all missile ships, and don't you know that damagetype-specific missile bonuses are more homosexual than Backdoor Bandit? --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period.
Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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Christopher Multsanti
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.10.13 19:02:00 -
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I like the idea of changing them to specialise in tackling but I think you would have to remove the damage bonus from them altogether.
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Ithildin
Gallente The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.13 19:12:00 -
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While I believe that tackling bonuses are important, in these cases there's so much else that can be fixed.
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Why are they all missile ships, and don't you know that damagetype-specific missile bonuses are more homosexual than Backdoor Bandit?
Quoted for gods bedamned truth, really.
Remove bonuses and add...
Ares: (+15 powergrid, convert all missiles to turrets) +5% I'm thinking it over, Okay? (Not a damage bonus, but something... turrety) Malediction: +5% Armour resistances. The brand new survivaceptor. Raptor: (+5 powergrid, +1 turret) +10% warp scrambler range Stiletto: It's fine. Only damned interceptor worth a damned. - Three years old |

Nyxus
GALAXIAN Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.10.13 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin While I believe that tackling bonuses are important, in these cases there's so much else that can be fixed.
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Why are they all missile ships, and don't you know that damagetype-specific missile bonuses are more homosexual than Backdoor Bandit?
Quoted for gods bedamned truth, really.
Remove bonuses and add...
Ares: (+15 powergrid, convert all missiles to turrets) +5% I'm thinking it over, Okay? (Not a damage bonus, but something... turrety) Malediction: +5% Armour resistances. The brand new survivaceptor. Raptor: (+5 powergrid, +1 turret) +10% warp scrambler range Stiletto: It's fine. Only damned interceptor worth a damned.
Ares should get an omfgtrackingbonus similar, but better, than a destroyer. Fits with Gallente.
The tracking bonus would be high enought that it could actually orbit it's target and hit with the damn guns from a decent range. Lack of tracking is one of the reasons the crow is so good. Let it do moderate damage, but with tracking so high its consistantly good even at high transversals.
Nyxus
Originally by: Tux The thought of a missile spewing armor tanking cool black looking ship makes me happy in the pants
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Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:09:00 -
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Stiletto isn't the less flow matari ceptor...
It's the claw that sucks donkey balls.
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Malena Panic
Gallente Acme Technologies Incorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:48:00 -
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Keep your hands off my Ares' rockets. More grid and tracking bonus pls!
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Slan Traveller
SteelVipers YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:01:00 -
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Hands off the Malediction. It's a good ship and at same mass as the Crow it is 10 m/s faster on base.
Take away my lasers and i kill ya. The missile bonus could be swapped for something though.
Slan
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Ithildin
Gallente The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Nyxus
Originally by: Ithildin While I believe that tackling bonuses are important, in these cases there's so much else that can be fixed.
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Why are they all missile ships, and don't you know that damagetype-specific missile bonuses are more homosexual than Backdoor Bandit?
Quoted for gods bedamned truth, really.
Remove bonuses and add...
Ares: (+15 powergrid, convert all missiles to turrets) +5% I'm thinking it over, Okay? (Not a damage bonus, but something... turrety) Malediction: +5% Armour resistances. The brand new survivaceptor. Raptor: (+5 powergrid, +1 turret) +10% warp scrambler range Stiletto: It's fine. Only damned interceptor worth a damned.
Ares should get an omfgtrackingbonus similar, but better, than a destroyer. Fits with Gallente.
The tracking bonus would be high enought that it could actually orbit it's target and hit with the damn guns from a decent range. Lack of tracking is one of the reasons the crow is so good. Let it do moderate damage, but with tracking so high its consistantly good even at high transversals.
Nyxus
It's already got a tracking bonus. It's only got problem with tracking when in tight, fast, orbits around (non-webbing) interceptors. Another tracking bonus and the thermal missile bonus is preferable. - Three years old |

Sorja
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.10.14 01:51:00 -
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Interceptors deal too much damage. Remove all damage bonuses and add tackling bonuses.
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Jruex Zarenthi
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Posted - 2006.10.14 03:31:00 -
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Edited by: Jruex Zarenthi on 14/10/2006 03:32:20 Here's my suggestion for the Ares.
Remove one low-slot. Add one high slot. Add one turret and one launcher point for three of each. Add about 15 base powergrid. Leave other stuff alone.
The idea is to give it a large variety of effective fittings.
Like, pure gank with 3 blasters and two rockets. Or crazy tank with 3 rockets, 2 nos, and dual-reps in the lows. Or ranged fighting with standard missiles and rails.
No other inty has 5 weapon slots, or 5 high slots. Ares could actually be unique with that.
If nothing else, at least boost the turret and launcher layout by one each, so it can have a majority on whichever weapon system it's using.
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un5een
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.14 04:58:00 -
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is there any reason why most of the ppl always want more dps instead of ships that could actually catch nanowcs-ships without the risk of being trapped in the own interdiction sphere? ok, missed one possibility 90% of the posters here are pvE nuts that give a **** about webbing n scrambling :-D ----------------------------------------------- there are 6 million ways to die... chose one! - i chose LAG
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Rhuu
Gallente Es and Whizz
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Posted - 2006.10.14 05:09:00 -
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Ares: 10m3 drone bay.
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Tasty Burger
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Posted - 2006.10.14 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja Interceptors deal too much damage. Remove all damage bonuses and add tackling bonuses.
Remove your keyboard and choke yourself.
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Lucus Ranger
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2006.10.14 09:21:00 -
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Actually I think removing their damage bonus's on these ceptors isn't a bad idea and replace them with tackling bonus..
Each race then has 1 Damage Interceptor and 1 Tackling...
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