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celous
Caldari
Dark Skyes
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Posted - 2006.10.13 22:39:00 -
[31]
nope
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Mayoz
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Posted - 2006.10.13 22:54:00 -
[32]
yea bring 'em on so I can Play catch up easier 
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Vasiliyan
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2006.10.13 22:55:00 -
[33]
No. Or if you do make new characters start with all the basic learning skills.
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chillz
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.13 23:05:00 -
[34]
Whatever. It's not like there's a law saying you have to train them.
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bio collector
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Posted - 2006.10.13 23:34:00 -
[35]
No, no, no, no, please no, no, no, God no! I beg you CCP, NO!
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Skid Pants
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Posted - 2006.10.14 00:18:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Skid Pants on 14/10/2006 00:18:31
Learning skills are the biggest time-sink in the game.
And also, more importantly, they are the most off putting aspect to any potential new/future eve players.
People say you don't have to train the learning skills so obsessively to begin with but it's a sad fact that many do or feel left behind.
Learning skills should never have been introduced in the first place imho.
Faster skill training should have been dealt with entirely with in-game accuireable artifacts like the implants and such.
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Firebyrd
Gallente
Crooked River Productions
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Posted - 2006.10.14 03:21:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Firebyrd on 14/10/2006 03:24:27
2 months my butt, it takes about 1-1.5 weeks to get all 6 basic learning skills to lvl 4, then then i get my corp mates +1,or +2 implants, they now have the equal of Advanced lvl 1 , they train other basic skills while they r online, and lvl 5 learning, while off line, and then mem, and intel as those r basic 3, by the time 2 months r up i have them in med barges, and tier 1 BSs, and lvl 4 indy skills, plus other basic skills, and lvl 3 advanced mem skill....its not hard to do, and it doesnt hog tie u to learning skills....
its called balance, and its also called working with newb on creating a primary profession, and working towards that goal, even with advance skill, it still takes 30 days to train Lvl 5 BS, which i believe is a prerequisite for the Cap ships...
and with more higher ranked skills coming, which i believe this isgonna be needed, and needing more then 100 skills depending on the path u go down, Learning, advanced learning, and anything else that can speed up the process is benificial in the end... if i can cut a rank 1 (lvl 5)skill from 15 days with no learning skills, to 4.5 days with them, and +1 implants..... which will i work on first? ...lvl 5s of the advanced sure takes about 15 days each, but again train them offline, work smaller skills online...
its called planning, and thats what u want new people to do, plan their goals and work them toward that, better then having someone with 10 mill SPs, and no direction
edited for grammar
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Mak'shar Karrde
Minmatar
UK Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.14 03:39:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Mak''shar Karrde on 14/10/2006 03:40:44
Learning skills are one of the largest barriers against fun for new players. They make it harder to sell the game to new people, they're like an albatros hanging over their head until they get the advanced skills to level 4.
They are not healthy for the game, no more should be added. If anything, the ones we already have should be removed and stats for new players raised accordingly. I raised mine a long time ago but I still resent them.
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Lazy8s
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Posted - 2006.10.14 04:06:00 -
[39]
Psh I say let them come out. They would be like 1day, 3days, 14days, 32days, 94days. Anyone dumb enough to train that deserves the skills!
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Thulion
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Posted - 2006.10.14 04:07:00 -
[40]
There is nothing wrong with learning skills. You do not have to learn them if you don't want to. There is no requirment to learn them eaither. I would welcome new learning skills.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.14 04:14:00 -
[41]
I can't think of one good reason to introduce more learning skills.
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Acerus Malum
Encina Technologies
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.10.14 04:52:00 -
[42]
Hmm... so let's see.
Omniscience
Rank: 5
Prerequisite: Clarity V
+1 Perception and +0.5% daily chance to develop the Jovian Disease and commit suicide per level.
Sounds fair to me! 
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spurious signal
Caldari
Brainiacs
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Posted - 2006.10.14 05:11:00 -
[43]
It already takes 1300 days to pay off maxing the Advanced Learning skills.... just what is the point of going any further?
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Voculus
Steel Battalion
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Posted - 2006.10.14 05:23:00 -
[44]
The last F-ing thing this game needs is more learning skills.
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Mrmuttley
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2006.10.14 05:39:00 -
[45]
 Originally by: spurious signal
It already takes 1300 days to pay off maxing the Advanced Learning skills.... just what is the point of going any further?
Well elite learning skills would mean the pay off for advanced was about 3 months but then the pay off for maxed elite learning skills should be 10 years 
Nice though it would be to add another 5 points to all my attributtes im gonna go with no on this one
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Dannek
Llama F5 and Associates
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Posted - 2006.10.14 06:19:00 -
[46]
I have a better suggestion: Remove ALL the learning skills from the game, refund the points to players that have already invested in them (so they can put those towards other skills) and give everyone attributes of 30 across the board.
There, I've quickly and simply made it easier for new players to become capable of interacting with older players on a somewhat even field most of the time while letting older players branch their skills out and get access to very high level skillbooks more quickly.
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Rafein
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.14 06:36:00 -
[47]
rank 5, +1 per level. Prereq of Presence, Clarity, Logic, eidetic memory, and Focus at 5.
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Jack Kevorkian
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Posted - 2006.10.14 06:41:00 -
[48]
I want +10 implants instead
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Matrix Aran
Legio Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.10.14 06:54:00 -
[49]
No
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Jack'O Blades
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Posted - 2006.10.14 08:01:00 -
[50]
Please no elite attribute skills...
Advance Learning YES
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2006.10.14 08:18:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Major Stormer
No thanks
please god no, Advanced Learning is more than enough.
Boosters however...
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Brutor Shaun
Minmatar
Freelancers UK Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.14 09:42:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Firebyrd
And by the way i encourage all players to maxx them out, the benifits have an immediate impact, not this 1,2 yr garbage....
What a load of bollox! Linkage
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AlexCA
Amarr
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.14 09:48:00 -
[53]
No, time sinks are bad okay.
Vodka Lolterra
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Ansuru Starlancer
The Phoenix Rising
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.10.14 10:27:00 -
[54]
Advanced Learning -only-
Make it a rank 8 that gives +20% effective attribute bonus per level, tho :p
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill
Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.14 11:23:00 -
[55]
You think 1-2 weeks is a long time? Try training for a Dreadnought. BS 5 ADV Spaceship 5 Adv weapon upgrades 5 warp drive op 5. Thats like 23 days for ADV spaceship 5 and 23 days for adv weapon up 5 BS 5 is a month. warp drive op isnt bad. Science 5 isnt bad. Thats with decent perception and willpower with +3 implants and all the adv learnings to 4.
MY alt with poor perception and willpower (both adv learnings to 5) +3 implants. Itll take me 45 days to get BS 5 alone! Give me something to shorten that PLZ!
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Ficti0n
FireTech
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.14 11:27:00 -
[56]
PLEASE dont do this.
Learnig skills are the most boring skills in EVE.
Please just leave them as they are.
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill
Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.14 11:30:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Ficti0n
PLEASE dont do this.
Learnig skills are the most boring skills in EVE.
Please just leave them as they are.
oh yeah and like 45 days til bs 5 is better? I can learn 3 Adv learning skills from 4 to 5 in that time.
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Lilith StarFire
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Posted - 2006.10.14 11:31:00 -
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Nope, enough learning, except maybe for an advanced learning, but lets us get DNA mutators instead
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill
Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.14 11:36:00 -
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Give me something where i can take 1/2 of my memory and put it in Perception or willpower for a week or something. I could jump into a clone with a (1/2 memory +to perception implant) and train my BS 5.
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UGWidowmaker
Setenta Corp
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.14 11:50:00 -
[60]
mmm yes something like molecular techmology wich need ot be done at soem pos. mmm wich ofc has a risk.. byt say u need to be there for 1 hour maybe 2 while they change your atributes. would ROCK..
PS make it posible to remote destroy jump clones ffs.
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