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MysticNZ Solstice Systems Development Concourse	Posted - 2006.10.13 21:22:00 - [1] I bought my hac last week, Vagabond of course, for 260m. I left it siting in Jita while I went an attended to some low sec stuff. I come back a week later, none on the market so I decide to put mine up for a cool 315m, I mean, why not? Hour later, sold. Wow... prices are getting scarry, i'm glad people are willing to pay that much. -=====- Xorus is teh nub :D I heard that beats player with big stick now be a good carebear and mine me some veldspar - Xorus
Pestillence Chav-Scum	Posted - 2006.10.13 21:25:00 - [2] They arent getting scary, they've been broken for ages. Thank God I have my own ISK printing machine so I can sell at obscene profit margins and buy toys for no effort
MysticNZ Solstice Systems Development Concourse	Posted - 2006.10.13 21:27:00 - [3] Originally by: Pestillence They arent getting scary, they've been broken for ages. Thank God I have my own ISK printing machine so I can sell at obscene profit margins and buy toys for no effort Well, i'm going to start buying and selling hacks now. Nice profit margin :) -=====- Xorus is teh nub :D I heard that beats player with big stick now be a good carebear and mine me some veldspar - Xorus
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.13 21:34:00 - [4] /me remembers vagabonds for 75 mil isk and munnins for a bit over 60 mil. That was 2005 imho, so not ages ago. Well, doesn't really matter. If I DON'T buy a vaga for 260 mil or 310mil is pointless in the end. Having a break from EVE until my broadband connection is working again.
NiGHTS	Posted - 2006.10.13 21:41:00 - [5] thats why i prefer to fly cheap and expendable ships-- all the fun, not as much of the cost.
Xeliya NOPHEX PRISIM Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.13 21:47:00 - [6] IMO it's the wars that are going on that are making the prices sky rocket o_O Eve was so peaceful for a few months now it seems everyone is fighting someone . . . ----------
BIRDofPREY Minmatar KDM Corp Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.13 21:52:00 - [7] Originally by: Plutoinum /me remembers vagabonds for 75 mil isk and munnins for a bit over 60 mil. That was 2005 imho, so not ages ago. Well, doesn't really matter. If I DON'T buy a vaga for 260 mil or 310mil is pointless in the end. Got my Vagabond for 70 million and complained about the price - Now I complain about 'cause I don't fly it out of fear of loosing the bloody thing Frustration, agravation and anger is just EVE's way of saying you are playing the game to the fullist
sallyr Gallente Mithril Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.13 22:07:00 - [8] do u know what i love . . .recon ships there dirt cheap atm and well for that much money there bloody good plus command ships are dirt cheap in comparison to hacs 2 and there easly twice as good! anyway ive got a hac so im happy . . .till i lose it . . . (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Resistance is Futile Find us here
Devilish Ledoux Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.10.13 22:36:00 - [9] I paid 260 million for my first Vagabond (not all that long ago). Hopefully, by the time I lose it, the wonders of Invention will have reduced the price to more sane levels. I can still afford to lose it, but ... damn. _ The Billionaire Buccaneer (Now with 50% more Roleplay!)
Sirial Soulfly	Posted - 2006.10.13 22:41:00 - [10] I expect nighthawks to go for 275 in a bit and other field command ships for at least 50 to 75 mill more then last week.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.10.13 23:54:00 - [11] I wouldn't be surprised if it were to do with the ASCN / BoB war. I mean, between them they must account for a fair chunk of both the t2 BPO production AND consumption- the war will mean less filtering through to the market. In theory. Heres dreaming of Kali, and sweet sweet invention.......... -----------------------------------------------
Kentucky Smith Serenity Technology	Posted - 2006.10.14 00:04:00 - [12] The pricing has nothing to do with wars, or price and demand. It's pure greed period. I watched 12 hacks sit on the market for over 2 weeks at 165 mill each and no one bought 1. Price and demand they would be gone. War they would be gone. Its greed plain and simple. There are 4 Macherials on escrow for over a week now at 750-1 billion when just the week before they were 545. The supplier is trying to drive the price up out of greed.
Benglada Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.10.14 00:08:00 - [13] Originally by: Kentucky Smith The pricing has nothing to do with wars, or price and demand. It's pure greed period. I watched 12 hacks sit on the market for over 2 weeks at 165 mill each and no one bought 1. Price and demand they would be gone. War they would be gone. Its greed plain and simple. There are 4 Macherials on escrow for over a week now at 750-1 billion when just the week before they were 545. The supplier is trying to drive the price up out of greed. No, Ccp fixed a drop bug and thus macharials are now dropping significantly less (Bought my mach just before this <3) --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
Cmdr Sy Off Balance Sheet Entity	Posted - 2006.10.14 00:19:00 - [14] I sold my three HACs a couple of weeks ago, and made 137.5m profit on what I originally paid for them. I realised I can choose to lose a dozen Thoraxes, or one Zealot. Easy choice for me. Nos and ECM are too great a hazard to HACs these days, and I no longer see the point in risking a quarter-billion ISK loss with just the generic T2 equipment, all in one go in one fight. But those guys who bought my HACs at a price I consider absurd, fair play, it's your game too.
Kentucky Smith Serenity Technology	Posted - 2006.10.14 00:20:00 - [15] If thats the case then explain hacd.
Xtreem Gallente Anti Pirate Confederate	Posted - 2006.10.14 00:40:00 - [16] i like the high prices, keeps them a pride thing to both fly, and to kill others as u know they have to be REALLY rich to cover the loss without even a muttering of annoyance :) and yes i have several hacs, and lose them, its all part of the game. however my frist 3 demios and ishtars set me back a cool 55mil each lol... alot cheaper back then, but hell, there good!!
Foxy Cleopatra Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.14 00:43:00 - [17] Thanks for contributing to the high HAC prices!
SonOTassadar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.10.14 01:35:00 - [18] Originally by: Foxy Cleopatra Thanks for contributing to the high HAC prices! As long as people will pay it, the price will continue to rise. Why do you think oil prices tripled over the course of 5 years? ----- Griffin -- 100,000 ISK ECM - Multispectral Jammer Is -- 20,000 ISK Standar Missile Launcher Is -- 10,000 ISK War target sobbing over losing a fight in his T2 fitted Battleship -- priceless
Dred'Pirate Jesus Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.10.14 03:26:00 - [19] As I've stated in other threads I think HAC prices are fair.. Its an 'Elite' ship so skills should not be the only precursor to getting one.. You should also be 'Elite' in the game and have the revenue stream to buy it also.. I don't want to see HAC's commonplace.. Do you? [2:02:08] Dred'Pirate Jesus > I'm Mexican you dolt.. It's pronouced "hey zeus" not "gee zus"
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.14 04:47:00 - [20] Originally by: SonOTassadar Originally by: Foxy Cleopatra Thanks for contributing to the high HAC prices! As long as people will pay it, the price will continue to rise. Why do you think oil prices tripled over the course of 5 years? That's a really bad analogy. Oil is a necessity, either for getting around in your car (as most people see it, even if they could use a bike) or, more importantly, simple heating your home. HACs OTOH are a luxury good. They're very nice, and do some great things, but they're not needed the same way oil is. Now, if the price of a Honda Civic had tripled you'd be onto something. Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when backdoor bandit is in local.
Resetgun Caldari Caldari Space Ammunition	Posted - 2006.10.14 06:05:00 - [21] Read my lips: HACs prices are going to drop when invention feature is implemented. "As long as there are greedy people and the devs do nothing, it will work." - Dentara Rast, billionaire
Estelle Matsuko Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.10.14 07:47:00 - [22] Originally by: Resetgun Read my lips: HACs prices are going to drop when invention feature is implemented. Read mine. Wrong. Why? Let me take you on a trip to the future. Just getting the skills to use invention is going to be time consuming. Just getting the gear to create your interface, and remember there are 12 of them, is going to be an utter nightmare. You will need data cores and other items only available from Research agents or the "Profession" complexes. More time consumed. Oh you will probably be able to buy the items on the market once players start listing them, but you can bet they wont be cheap. Moving on, you¦ve got your datacores, you¦ve got your Interface, you¦ve got your encryption book(s), now you need a T1 bpc for the item you want to create a t2 bpc for, oh and a high quality T1 item of the same type. More time required to create the T1 bpc (remember the better pe and me it has, the better chance of a successful t2 creation), and more expense required in finding the best quality t1 item you can. Further you¦ve got everything now you need to create a T2 bpc, unfortunately it¦s not gauranteed. If you fail you lose everything but the interface and the encryption skill (cos you¦ve learnt it obviously) OK , Mistress luck has smiled on you and you¦ve managed to create a low quality T2 BPC for ....oh lets say....a cerberus. Now there¦s more time and cost involved in building the damned thing. There it sits in your hanger, all shiny spanky and new. Do you keep it or sell the little darling? Looking back, you think about all the time and cost that has been involved in getting to this point, so you look at the current cerberus price and list it at that, knowing full well it¦s still going to sell, maybe not straight away, but it WILL sell. You could list it for cheaper, but you KNOW someone will just buy it for resale. Why should they get the fruits of your hard work? Yes, invention opens up t2 production to more people, but nowhere near as many as people think. Those that do manage to produce t2 gear are going to want a major return for all thier time and effort. Count on it. It¦s the nature of the beast.
Ukucia Gallente The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.14 08:08:00 - [23] Originally by: Estelle Matsuko Edited by: Estelle Matsuko on 14/10/2006 08:02:43 You could list it for cheaper, but you KNOW someone will just buy it for resale. Why should they get the fruits of your hard work? Yes, invention opens up t2 production to more people, but nowhere near as many as people think. Those that do manage to produce t2 gear are going to want a major return for all thier time and effort. Count on it. It¦s the nature of the beast. Any increase in supply will reduce the price (if demand is constant). If 10 more players are making HACs, and demand stays the same, the price will drop as the additional producers undercut each other. 10 more players will obviously not make the bottom drop out of the market, but it will have an effect.
Estelle Matsuko Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.10.14 08:18:00 - [24] Edited by: Estelle Matsuko on 14/10/2006 08:18:54 Originally by: Ukucia Originally by: Estelle Matsuko Edited by: Estelle Matsuko on 14/10/2006 08:02:43 You could list it for cheaper, but you KNOW someone will just buy it for resale. Why should they get the fruits of your hard work? Yes, invention opens up t2 production to more people, but nowhere near as many as people think. Those that do manage to produce t2 gear are going to want a major return for all thier time and effort. Count on it. It¦s the nature of the beast. Any increase in supply will reduce the price (if demand is constant). If 10 more players are making HACs, and demand stays the same, the price will drop as the additional producers undercut each other. 10 more players will obviously not make the bottom drop out of the market, but it will have an effect. In the real world i¦d say yes, however the DEMAND for HAC (as an example) will still outstrip the supply by a large enough margin that the price will not drop by much, if at all. Remember the current HAC BPO number was based on the number of players in game at the time of thier release. There are way more people playing now, but still the same number of BPO¦s. You know, I really really hope i¦m wrong, but I have this sneaking suspicion that i¦m not. Only time will tell though.
Lucus Ranger Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:30:00 - [25] I remember when Hacs used to cost 50-75mills :( I want those times back again
OldPueblo Gallente Defenders of Order New Eden Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:35:00 - [26] Price sucks big time, but the uber-raping is that you can't insure it for anywhere near what you paid for it.
Kerosene Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:39:00 - [27] Originally by: Patch86 I wouldn't be surprised if it were to do with the ASCN / BoB war. I mean, between them they must account for a fair chunk of both the t2 BPO production AND consumption- the war will mean less filtering through to the market. In theory. Heres dreaming of Kali, and sweet sweet invention.......... Correct. I know for a fact that many sought after bpo's are now entirely tied up with internal alliance production where many were put to market before. __ Originally by: Blacklight on BoB Just to be sure everyone is clear... We use spies. We listen to your TS. We feed you false intel. We have no qualms about it whatsoever..
Ansuru Starlancer The Phoenix Rising Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:45:00 - [28] Considering that in the 9 months I'd left eve, the active population has almost TRIPLED (I remember them celebrating 11,000 active players shortly before I went on vacation) with ABSOLUTELY NO new BPOs released for the hacs (or other T2 items for that matter), and they were 200mil+ even before I left, I'm surprised they're still as low as they are now. I sure hope invention isn't as laborious as you say...just another worthless mechanic then. Something needs to be done about the market; Population has tripled, waves of new players will achieve HAC and other T2 skills and want them before very much longer; demand is ready to skyrocket! If supply doesn't rise in a similar fashion with invention, prices WILL go through the roof. -_-
Lucus Ranger Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:51:00 - [29] Originally by: Ansuru Starlancer I sure hope invention isn't as laborious as you say...just another worthless mechanic then. Something needs to be done about the market; Population has tripled, waves of new players will achieve HAC and other T2 skills and want them before very much longer; demand is ready to skyrocket! If supply doesn't rise in a similar fashion with invention, prices WILL go through the roof. -_- I agree, invention better lower hac prices. I don't want them to become so available that they are litrerally everywhere, just more common then they are now..
ToxicFire Warlords Corp The Core Collective	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:09:00 - [30] Edited by: ToxicFire on 14/10/2006 11:11:22 Originally by: Lucus Ranger Originally by: Ansuru Starlancer I sure hope invention isn't as laborious as you say...just another worthless mechanic then. Something needs to be done about the market; Population has tripled, waves of new players will achieve HAC and other T2 skills and want them before very much longer; demand is ready to skyrocket! If supply doesn't rise in a similar fashion with invention, prices WILL go through the roof. -_- I agree, invention better lower hac prices. I don't want them to become so available that they are litrerally everywhere, just more common then they are now.. Don't worry they won't invention has been made sufficiently costly and complex that it won't sink the market but does effectively take the limiter off the ammount that can be produced, also loosens the cartel's grip a little meaning profit margins will fall but over a longer period as more people start moving into the invention producer role. But rember the initial start up cost will most likely be at least a bil considering expecting the prices of one races invention skill to peak at around 500mil and datainterfaces to be around 500mil themselves, as for a datacore cost in isk vs's rp's that will probably be an unstable market for a while as theres nothing to base it on but im sure alot of those unused rp's will be used to buy datacores and they'll be filling up the escrow market soon enough. PS. nox we know that the invention skills except for the base requirement skill will not be seeded though they will be available through profession sites aswell as cosmos Join the save Stargate SG1 Campaign Today! http://savestargatesg1.com/

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