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Aeuron Asgard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
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Posted - 2015.03.05 02:19:46 -
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As corprations do not have any particular good defense agains-¦t people who are disloyal and have thieving tendencies.
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For this I suggest to add a feature, that allows members of the corpration to make something like a contract when withdrawing items. That atleast 2 superiors must sign, let-¦s say a quartermaster and a commissioner, for the person to be able to get the items.
Then the corpration can set a limit to how much items in isk people can withdraw under 24hours before they have to make this kind of contract. Also be able to set the same if like a contract to withdraw 500mil isk worth of items, 3 members needs to sign it and so on 1b 4-5 members.
Finest regards,
Aeuron Asgard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve. |
Christopher AET
hirr
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2015.03.05 02:23:01 -
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Isn't all theft by definition anti - Corp?
I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
CODE.
11987
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Posted - 2015.03.05 02:25:28 -
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Or not.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
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Posted - 2015.03.05 02:28:23 -
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WoW is that way  |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
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Posted - 2015.03.05 02:34:47 -
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So how much did they get? |
Theodoric Darkwind
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.05 02:58:27 -
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Wow is that way ------------------------>
Corp theft, Awoxing, suicide ganking, spais, etc. are all part of the game. If you want a theme park to PvE til you drop go find another game.
There are ways to avoid or minimize the impact of all of these (i.e. restricted access levels in corp hangars, spreading assets around to prevent a thief from getting everything, vetting corp recruits to weed out spais and awoxers, not autopiloting in haulers, not hauling more than your tank can handle, using a scout to avoid gankers, etc.) |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
34325
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Posted - 2015.03.05 03:11:58 -
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So soon after the safety switch, the next nerf request?
If you are too lazy to look after the security of your assets, why should CCP help you?
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
23622
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Posted - 2015.03.05 03:15:30 -
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This slippery slope brought to you by the sponsors of Tiamat Friendly Fire switch.
Rush to danger, wind up nowhere
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Tyrton
Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters
Intergalactic Interstellar Interns
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Posted - 2015.03.05 03:23:54 -
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Corp assets ~15B now i have to find 20 co-signers before you can say so long and thanks for all the fish.
The bigger question would the above corp theft make the 20 guilty by association.
What is the exact decibel level of 20 face palms. UEA might wish to know that. (i have to stop reading uae posts)
Would you even dare post if you get robbed with 20 holding the door open and keeping the car war and running.
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Aeuron Asgard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
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Posted - 2015.03.05 03:46:42 -
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Haha I gotta love this community. :)
First off, no there has been no theft on our part. I based this on: http://evenews24.com/2015/03/02/vanguard-frontiers-600-billion-isk-heist/
Secondly, this is not for pve reasons, this is mainly a logical solution. Kinda same as the president in movies has one key to fire the nukes, and then some general has the other w/e. This doesn-¦t remove the complete enviroment of corp theft, just makes it much harder and gives it realism. You have to get control or get a partner in crime. Making corporate heist shouldn-¦t be possible with only 1 person.
Finest regards,
Aeuron Asgard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve. |
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.03.05 03:47:14 -
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Wrong forum section.
Who you trust and how you keep those relationships going is how you keep your imaginary 1s and 0s safe.
The awox thing ... meh.
This? No.
CSM Ten movement for change.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids.
Status: Rabid carebear
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20174
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Posted - 2015.03.05 05:44:48 -
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Aeuron Asgard wrote: Idea for anti-corp theft.
How the.. what the.. uuuhhhhh..
Now im curious.. how do you steal an anti-corp? Better yet.. what is an anti-corp? Please.. I must know why I want to steal an anti-corp!
God, this is all I can think about now. I don't know why I feel the impulse to steal all the anti-corps eventhough I don't know what one is yet.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Serene Repose
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Posted - 2015.03.05 06:14:56 -
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No anti-theft device? Right. The device is don't give people access unless you know they can be trusted.
OR we could make some programming monstrosity to do your thinking for you!
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.05 06:23:07 -
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Hengle Teron wrote:WoW is that way
This is EVE.
Extreme A: We are a WoW clone
Extreme B: The mindless slaughter of the player base in a no holds barred cage match that ends looking like Serenity Server. 50K bots building for the war that will never come. |
Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
8052
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Posted - 2015.03.05 06:50:19 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Aeuron Asgard wrote: Idea for anti-corp theft. How the.. what the.. uuuhhhhh.. Now im curious.. how do you steal an anti-corp? Better yet.. what is an anti-corp? Please.. I must know why I want to steal an anti-corp! God, this is all I can think about now. I don't know why I feel the impulse to steal all the anti-corps eventhough I don't know what one is yet.
I'll explain, UAE.
A corporation is, in dictionary terms, 'A company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity' or where it is used sometimes in the UK, 'A group of people elected to govern a city, town, or borough.'
What we have in EVE is a large amount of 'corporations' who are actually just made up by one person.
To make an 'anti-corporation' is pretty much to have a 'corporation' which isn't a group of people or different companies.
I.e, one-man/alt corps.
tl;dr: OP wants to make it so you have to give permission BEFORE you can go stealing items from yourself.
It really is a heinous crime, and it needs to be sorted as soon as possible. CCP pls nerf.
Just remember, whenever you see a Carrier die to a Drifter... well....
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
7857
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Posted - 2015.03.05 07:48:38 -
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My way is the best way to keep your corp safe from thieves.
I'll tell you my secret. I am the only member of my corp. Keeps it safe as fluffy bunnies, I tell you.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Aeuron Asgard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
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Posted - 2015.03.05 08:30:42 -
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Lol I just now realized my error with anti-corp theft lol.. So slow..
Anyways love you guys for the banter. But now can someone give me a legitimiate reason how this is not a good idea.
Cause I do believe in freedom to structure your own systems and regulations within a corp. Sandbox.
No risk no reward, what reward is there in risking yourself to open theft? There is no reward. But if you have the option to add this feature to your corp. Then you can risk having a open hangar with no regulations, if it gives you thrill. Then you Yarrharr-¦s can go look for those corps and give them excitement! :) |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1351
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Posted - 2015.03.05 08:42:44 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:My way is the best way to keep your corp safe from thieves. I'll tell you my secret. I am the only member of my corp. Keeps it safe as fluffy bunnies, I tell you. Mr Epeen
I tried this. It worked until I let my alt into the corp. I thought I could trust him, you know? Then he stole a boatload of ISK and spent it all on strippers and booze. I had to boot him, mostly because he didn't invite me along.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
8052
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Posted - 2015.03.05 08:49:47 -
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Aeuron Asgard wrote:Lol I just now realized my error with anti-corp theft lol.. So slow..
Anyways love you guys for the banter. But now can someone give me a legitimiate reason how this is not a good idea.
Cause I do believe in freedom to structure your own systems and regulations within a corp. Sandbox.
No risk no reward, what reward is there in risking yourself to open theft? There is no reward. But if you have the option to add this feature to your corp. Then you can risk having a open hangar with no regulations, if it gives you thrill. Then you Yarrharr-¦s can go look for those corps and give them excitement! :)
Because it removes a unique part of the game.
EVE almost encourages bad decision-making, and as a sandbox, half the fun is knowing/learning that. If you make a mistake, don't do it again, else continue to suffer loss.
While it doesn't remove anything as such, corp heists are preventable anyway.
Chances are, the people who are victims of these corp heists probably wouldn't know how to configure the option/know what it does.
And there is no big problem with this.
It's just that people are getting fooled by others players -outsmarted (a pretty essential point of the game if you ask me), and making a decision that they suffer from.
There no problem to fix -so why fix it?
I know you don't think that it will become a case of removing gameplay, but there will be a newbie corp guide somewhere, and it will tell new corp owners to 'tick these boxes, just because if you don't, bad things will happen'.
And suddenly, the people who would be victims of inexperience, are not victims, because of inexperience.
That's not good gameplay in my opinion.
Just remember, whenever you see a Carrier die to a Drifter... well....
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Yarda Black
Militaris Industries
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2015.03.05 09:19:34 -
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Here's why your idea doesn't fit in with the game universe we're playing in:
Corp theft gameplay in CCP eyes
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Steward Nalelmir
Journey Home Ltd
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Posted - 2015.03.05 09:36:09 -
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Quote:Cause I do believe in freedom to structure your own systems and regulations within a corp. Sandbox.
Then do it. Structure. What you're requesting is already here.
Member asks for stuff via mail to leadership. CEO (and/ or directors) greenlights and makes a free contract for stuff to member from corp hangar.
(Edit: also, you have to realize that heists are usually commited by people who have already acquired full access to corp stuff) |
Egdald Eriker
Synapse Drift
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Posted - 2015.03.05 09:48:47 -
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Wrong forum.
Don't hand out access (wallet/hangar) to people you don't trust with it or people that need it.
Make it worth more for them to be in your corp than to be out of it.
Make everyone a community and keep the community happy, so that they don't want to awox/steal, because then they'd need to leave said community. Of course, if you're a ****** leader then they might just team up against you.. |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
15383
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Posted - 2015.03.05 11:52:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:My way is the best way to keep your corp safe from thieves. I'll tell you my secret. I am the only member of my corp. Keeps it safe as fluffy bunnies, I tell you. Mr Epeen
I wouldn't trust yourself with yourself.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
405
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Posted - 2015.03.05 13:01:33 -
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I have removed a couple posts that were borderline troll/off-topic. I will move this thread to Features & Ideas.
ISD Decoy
Commander
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2201
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Posted - 2015.03.05 13:09:08 -
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So you have to get 3 people to sign off on taking fuel out of the corp hangar to put in POSes? |
Dave stark
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Posted - 2015.03.05 13:36:31 -
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or you could just not give any dipshit roles to empty out the corp hangar/wallet like a dribbling mongoloid. |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
214
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Posted - 2015.03.05 14:51:56 -
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the only way you can protect your assets is by not trusting anyone.
you have settings that can let member view and not take.
Even RL friends that formed corps together have backstabbed each other to steal assets.
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Juan Mileghere
Incident Command
Southern Star Dominion
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Posted - 2015.03.05 18:55:38 -
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Aeuron Asgard wrote:As corprations do not have any particular good defense agains-¦t people who are disloyal and have thieving tendencies.
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For this I suggest to add a feature, that allows members of the corpration to make something like a contract when withdrawing items. That atleast 2 superiors must sign, let-¦s say a quartermaster and a commissioner, for the person to be able to get the items.
Then the corpration can set a limit to how much items in isk people can withdraw under 24hours before they have to make this kind of contract. Also be able to set the same if like a contract to withdraw 500mil isk worth of items, 3 members needs to sign it and so on 1b 4-5 members.
Finest regards,
Aeuron Asgard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve.
Or don't be an idiot and either have a hedge in place against that with assets stored in the CEO's person and accept any corp asset as something that isn't guarenteed to stick around, or don't give out roles like candy. |
Aeuron Asgard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
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Posted - 2015.03.06 00:06:57 -
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Agondray wrote:the only way you can protect your assets is by not trusting anyone.
you have settings that can let member view and not take.
Even RL friends that formed corps together have backstabbed each other to steal assets.
Yes I know, that-¦s why I want this. Say you want a socialistic corp. Example:
Industrial corp with 100% Tax, all si shared between everyone and you make money with the corpration as a tool between you all.
Feuds happen between even the best of friends as in real life. Then just cause of someone feel liek they want to betray their corp, shouldn-¦t make them to be able to completely ruin and steal everything. Sure a portion if they feel like it but not to make all others take a massive hit. |
Ayeshah Volfield
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
109
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Posted - 2015.03.06 01:26:11 -
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There are already plenty of tools ingame to minimize the risk of theft, learn to use them.
Trust is the most valuable commodity in EVE. As such, stupidity and laziness should not be encouraged nor protected.
EVE is what happens when the rule of law does not apply and Darwinism is allowed to run freely.
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