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Atreides 47
Atreides of Arrakis
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Posted - 2015.03.05 02:22:50 -
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CCP ban trading bots already. Really why not ? Why do you letting them mess the market ? I just got confirmation that there is certain "C# software" (starting with Ref*).
From my understanding it allows trading alts to sit almost 24/7 in hubs and modify orders on cooldown. There is many sell orders everywhere at hubs that indicating this sort of bs when new orders appear to be price of the last order minus few cents(random nuber like .96).
No human being is able to sit 24\7 and modify orders by few cents, your eyes will shut down.
Long Live the Fighters !
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Dradis Aulmais
RW Vindicator Connection
Phoebe Freeport Republic
715
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Posted - 2015.03.05 02:38:15 -
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Submit a ticket with your "proof" otherwise you pissing in the wind. The forums is not place cuz mainly we don't care.
I'm cloaked in your thread, stealing your info.
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Koniforous
Tauren Transit
209
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Posted - 2015.03.05 03:02:26 -
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Atreides 47 wrote:CCP ban trading bots already. Really why not ? Why do you letting them mess the market ? I just got confirmation that there is certain "C# software" (starting with Ref*).
From my understanding it allows trading alts to sit almost 24/7 in hubs and modify orders on cooldown. There is many sell orders everywhere at hubs that indicating this sort of bs when new orders appear to be price of the last order minus few cents(random nuber like .96).
No human being is able to sit 24\7 and modify orders by few cents, your eyes will shut down.
Challenge accepted.
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Eli Sariah
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2015.03.05 03:57:38 -
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As always Koniforous, your a legend! :P
"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
CODE.
4792
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Posted - 2015.03.05 05:05:34 -
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You claim to have the following:
- proof that these people are bots
- a detailed understanding of exactly how they set orders
Sounds like you can take them to the cleaners with that information.
Do that first, then report them to CCP as well.
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
2707
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Posted - 2015.03.05 06:52:57 -
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Well if they ban them allready as per your topic name , what is the problem?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
The Periphery
726
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Posted - 2015.03.05 08:47:48 -
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Report via the petition system, posting here won't get anything done.
NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
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Kane Carnifex
Yard Evolution
The Kadeshi
30
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Posted - 2015.03.05 09:24:38 -
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Koniforous wrote:
Challenge accepted.
Lets get the battle started :) |
Alexi Stokov
State War Academy
Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2015.03.05 15:07:03 -
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flakeys wrote:Well if they ban them allready as per your topic name , what is the problem?
Bravo! |
Jack Rockafeller
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.03.05 20:41:58 -
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24/7 lets go |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5200
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Posted - 2015.03.06 13:00:30 -
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To be fair, there are obvious bots which seem to just get ignored, even if you report them as such. There's one based in Amarr for example which logs out then back in every 7 minutes like clockwork and updates any of his orders within minutes of being cut at all times. Jita too is pretty much a minerfield of botters, you can find evidence of them on most lower value high volume items. CCP do quite well to get rid of mining and ratting bots, but for trading bots they do fall behind quite heavily.
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Atreides 47
Atreides of Arrakis
24
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Posted - 2015.03.06 13:12:36 -
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What a funny blabling few posts above.
Lucas Kell wrote:To be fair, there are obvious bots which seem to just get ignored, even if you report them as such. There's one based in Amarr for example which logs out then back in every 7 minutes like clockwork and updates any of his orders within minutes of being cut at all times. Jita too is pretty much a minerfield of botters, you can find evidence of them on most lower value high volume items. CCP do quite well to get rid of mining and ratting bots, but for trading bots they do fall behind quite heavily.
What CCP can do is to dig this bots out and ban all the users permanently, we all know they are banning all accounts. That will be enough demotivation for them to just quit botting.
Long Live the Fighters !
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5203
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Posted - 2015.03.06 15:35:42 -
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Atreides 47 wrote:What CCP can do is to dig this bots out and ban all the users permanently, we all know they are banning all accounts. That will be enough demotivation for them to just quit botting. I doubt it. A significant portion of botters do so to fund RMT, and as long as their customers have paid for more than the account cost them, they won't much care. Most of these bots, even the blatantly obvious ones, you report and you still see for months. For CCP to have an impact they need to respond more quickly to botters, to catch them before they make profit.
Honestly, I think you should be able to flag market orders as "potential bot" too, by right clicking the order. If a significant number of players report a given player, it should flag to GMs for manaul review. Part of the problem we have right now is that to get the name of a potential botter to report, we have to buy from or sell to their orders. If we were able to report when we saw the same market order reacting in a short time, it would streamline the process considerably.
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Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
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Atreides 47
Atreides of Arrakis
24
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Posted - 2015.03.06 16:57:01 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Most of these bots, even the blatantly obvious ones, you report and you still see for months. For CCP to have an impact they need to respond more quickly to botters, to catch them before they make profit.
Honestly, I think you should be able to flag market orders as "potential bot" too, by right clicking the order. If a significant number of players report a given player, it should flag to GMs for manaul review. Part of the problem we have right now is that to get the name of a potential botter to report, we have to buy from or sell to their orders. If we were able to report when we saw the same market order reacting in a short time, it would streamline the process considerably.
I agree 100%, but looks like now it was swept under the carpet.
Long Live the Fighters !
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Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
155
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Posted - 2015.03.07 21:57:04 -
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No bot operates on an island. Once identified, it is better to observe, let the user to plex for a few months, identify reliable signatures to burn future bots sooner. Then purge all acquired assets of the bot and any others found in its network.
Burning a bot on sight is a short sighted strategy to combating botting and RMT.
Atreides 47 wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Most of these bots, even the blatantly obvious ones, you report and you still see for months. For CCP to have an impact they need to respond more quickly to botters, to catch them before they make profit.
Honestly, I think you should be able to flag market orders as "potential bot" too, by right clicking the order. If a significant number of players report a given player, it should flag to GMs for manaul review. Part of the problem we have right now is that to get the name of a potential botter to report, we have to buy from or sell to their orders. If we were able to report when we saw the same market order reacting in a short time, it would streamline the process considerably. I agree 100%, but looks like now it was swept under the carpet.
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Archimedes Akiga
Perkone
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.03.08 00:43:03 -
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