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Terraniel Aurelius
High Flyers The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.03.08 02:05:27 -
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LT Alter wrote: I'll see them coming from d-scan before they get into the first room. Even if it's an interceptor.
Unless it's a recon, of course. Then you have no warning until it uncloaks next to you and bridges a fleet in. |

d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.08 02:25:25 -
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No worries, CCP has super's covered.
They are turning them into barely, still as vulnerable, no more dps, mobile on-grid boosters.
  
The only good coming out is when CCP decides to uber nerf something else (like frigate hulls, pve isk loot, mining, etc), we can then go laugh at those people that aren't happy with it, which are now screaming 'death to supers' because their T3 cruiser got plastered all over New Eden when they ganked some miner that had reinforcement in the system. |

Makc Petrovic
From Our Cold Dead Hands The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.03.08 03:00:02 -
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Why do we have to keep taking notes from Faction warfare and such? Why not some WHs? why can we not have capital escalations put into null somehow? ones the require supers or something? You are nerfing super ratting why not replace it with some new mechanic to make up for it. Maybe rats that bubble inside of it to create risk.
We all complain about risk versus reward but there is a huge risk to supers just being unable to dock or having whole alliance make their task to hunt them every day all day. And not many people that have not had a super or tit will be able to associate the risk with it other than maybe high class Whers.
They will always be pvp assets just due tot he massive tanks and reps they can give. Having them be able to still provide support for any fleet any day.
Fighter assist mechanics I am on the fence about. While I love being able to skynet people and I think it should be a viable tactic. It is the advantage you should get when people come into you home system. And once again there is risk in the fact that they can get dded if they are ratting fit with about 3 titans. While not huge risk still risk. I also see where engaging a cepter fleet with 15 fighters can be incredibly annoying and over powered. Just like how a cepter fleet loaded with the new sov lasers could be incredibly over powered. In general interceptors are meant to intercept stuff and hold them down for brief periods of time. They should not be used to start sov wars. Its just ******** logic. Instead really anything battle cruiser and up should be able to instigate sov captures because that is what those ship are meant to do.
But that is a slightly different topic. |

LT Alter
Dodixie Undock Is Camped
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Posted - 2015.03.08 07:36:16 -
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Terraniel Aurelius wrote:LT Alter wrote: I'll see them coming from d-scan before they get into the first room. Even if it's an interceptor.
Unless it's a recon, of course. Then you have no warning until it uncloaks next to you and bridges a fleet in.
This comment... 
You sir, make a point that makes me question how I have not been caught by a recon while running level 5s yet.
Edit: "Uncloaks next to you and bridges a fleet in," Well only combat recons don't show on d-scan (They can't cloak) and you can't light cynos in sites or missions so... the more you know. You still make great point about the d-scan thing >.> |

Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2015.03.08 19:09:32 -
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Terraniel Aurelius wrote:LT Alter wrote: I'll see them coming from d-scan before they get into the first room. Even if it's an interceptor.
Unless it's a recon, of course. Then you have no warning until it uncloaks next to you and bridges a fleet in. So the recon "uncloaks" and lights a cyno, not a big deal. Stationary target, say hello to a dozen heavy drones while your bridging fleet has to burn through all the acceleration gates to get to us. Want to place any bets on whether your recon dies before your friends can burn in? Your buddies get to watch the carrier moonwalk out of the site as they land on grid.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:04:46 -
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Reproces them into cap construction componenets and keep till the better time.
For now there would be more than enough tears and bitching and firesales so why to bother. |

LT Alter
Dodixie Undock Is Camped
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Posted - 2015.03.08 22:06:37 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:Terraniel Aurelius wrote:LT Alter wrote: I'll see them coming from d-scan before they get into the first room. Even if it's an interceptor.
Unless it's a recon, of course. Then you have no warning until it uncloaks next to you and bridges a fleet in. So the recon "uncloaks" and lights a cyno, not a big deal. Stationary target, say hello to a dozen heavy drones while your bridging fleet has to burn through all the acceleration gates to get to us. Want to place any bets on whether your recon dies before your friends can burn in? Your buddies get to watch the carrier moonwalk out of the site as they land on grid.
Well, the recon can't light a cyno in your site anyway so... |

Tykonderoga
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2015.03.08 22:18:00 -
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Dear CCP:
Thanks for making the "end game" in this game worthless. Something that takes years and years to train for and tens of billions of isk to obtain and fit is going to be made into a "niche" ship that is rarely taken out and has no offensive means to defend itself.
And don't tell me a 14x skill and tens of billions of isk is not end game, because it is. Stop seeing these ships as the problem, when it is YOUR LACK OF IMAGINATION THAT IS THE PROBLEM. I don't play the game to have an Ishtar as my ultimate goal; I play the game to have the sickest and most powerful ship to be in with the most to lose if I die. And if I die, I'll will lose tens of billions of isk in the hull alone and billions in implants.
SAVE THE SUPER AND BUFF THE TITAN. KEEP EVE EPIC. DON'T HAVE CRUISER HULLS BE THE END GAME. DOWN WITH MAKING EVE CAPTURE THE FLAG. SIC SEMPER TYRANIS = CCP FOZZIE. |

LT Alter
Dodixie Undock Is Camped
140
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Posted - 2015.03.08 22:29:56 -
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Tykonderoga wrote:Dear CCP:
Thanks for making the "end game" in this game worthless. Something that takes years and years to train for and tens of billions of isk to obtain and fit is going to be made into a "niche" ship that is rarely taken out and has no offensive means to defend itself.
And don't tell me a 14x skill and tens of billions of isk is not end game, because it is. Stop seeing these ships as the problem, when it is YOUR LACK OF IMAGINATION THAT IS THE PROBLEM. I don't play the game to have an Ishtar as my ultimate goal; I play the game to have the sickest and most powerful ship to be in with the most to lose if I die. And if I die, I'll will lose tens of billions of isk in the hull alone and billions in implants.
SAVE THE SUPER AND BUFF THE TITAN. KEEP EVE EPIC. DON'T HAVE CRUISER HULLS BE THE END GAME. DOWN WITH MAKING EVE CAPTURE THE FLAG. SIC SEMPER TYRANIS = CCP FOZZIE.
I agree with you, in the sense that they should not do what they are suggestion to supers/titans. However I disagree with you about it being the end game. While some people may consider it so, it is not for everyone. But we're getting off-topic for this thread so I digress.
P.S. CCP have been known to listen to reason and ignore ranting, if you truly want to change their mind I suggest talking about it without caps lock and without a temper. |

Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2015.03.09 15:08:29 -
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Counter proposal:
- CCP gives those pilots all the SP back to spend as they like.
- A range of ships to the value of the Titans and Supers they hold now, which they can redeem in any station.
- Titans and Supers are deleted.
CSM Ten movement for change.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids.
Status: Rabid carebear
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Panther X
High Flyers The Kadeshi
94
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Posted - 2015.03.09 15:56:29 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Counter proposal:
- CCP gives those pilots all the SP back to spend as they like.
- A range of ships to the value of the Titans and Supers they hold now, which they can redeem in any station.
- Titans and Supers are deleted.
I wouldnt mind having all those millions of sp and billions of iskies back, but the chance that something like that will ever happen is less than zero.
A flight of 97826 rifters (in accordance to what I have spent on my super) would be unlimited fun.
My super smells of rich Corinthian Leather
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Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2015.03.09 18:58:24 -
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Terraniel Aurelius wrote:LT Alter wrote: I'll see them coming from d-scan before they get into the first room. Even if it's an interceptor.
Unless it's a recon, of course. Then you have no warning until it uncloaks next to you and bridges a fleet in.
A recon can't get in, scan the site down, warp to you, get through the gate and slowboat cloaked to you before you can get in warp. Period. If you get caught by a recon you deserve to get caught.
"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.-á He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
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Panther X
High Flyers The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.03.09 19:02:51 -
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Taram Caldar wrote:Terraniel Aurelius wrote:LT Alter wrote: I'll see them coming from d-scan before they get into the first room. Even if it's an interceptor.
Unless it's a recon, of course. Then you have no warning until it uncloaks next to you and bridges a fleet in. A recon can't get in, scan the site down, warp to you, get through the gate and slowboat cloaked to you before you can get in warp. Period. If you get caught by a recon you deserve to get caught.
That's usually what happens though. People don't watch their d-scans, local or listen to intel channels. Then they get on alliance channel and whine about "HELP IM TACKLED IN xxx system"
Hey if I get tackled in a carrier in an escalation I expect to die in silence.
My super smells of rich Corinthian Leather
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