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Janey T'gahl Caldari Provisions Caldari State 6	Posted - 2015.03.13 20:14:13 - [31] - Quote Agent Known wrote: Janey T'gahl wrote: I've kind of changed focus a bit reading about the Stratios :) I'd much rather have a wormhole pvp fit with the ability to run c1+c2 than the other way around. How would such a fit look like? Something like this one I found on reddit? "[Stratios, WH Hunter] Drone Damage Amplifier II Reactive Armor Hardener Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Warp Scrambler II Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption Script Stasis Webifier II Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400 Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Core Probe Launcher II Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Gecko x2" It'll be really really slow (tops out at 510 m/s with all V skills), but effective ...especially in groups. What do I need to change on it for it to be effective in solo? a mwd instead of ab?
Agent Known Night Theifs 44	Posted - 2015.03.13 20:31:19 - [32] - Quote Janey T'gahl wrote: Agent Known wrote: Janey T'gahl wrote: I've kind of changed focus a bit reading about the Stratios :) I'd much rather have a wormhole pvp fit with the ability to run c1+c2 than the other way around. How would such a fit look like? Something like this one I found on reddit? "[Stratios, WH Hunter] Drone Damage Amplifier II Reactive Armor Hardener Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II Warp Scrambler II Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption Script Stasis Webifier II Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400 Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Core Probe Launcher II Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Gecko x2" It'll be really really slow (tops out at 510 m/s with all V skills), but effective ...especially in groups. What do I need to change on it for it to be effective in solo? a mwd instead of ab? It would help, but there's not enough PG to make it fit and it's already tight on cap with the neuts. You can still use it solo if you can land initial tackle on something and it can't run away.
MooMooDachshundCow Incertae Sedis 203	Posted - 2015.03.13 20:44:03 - [33] - Quote That fit you just linked would work for PVP/C1-2 sites. For pve just swap one tank mod for an active rep and you're good. I suggest taking off the plate for ratting, but the reactive or an eanm would be fine to lose also. Sorry about the passive tank numbers. I was wrong, it tops around 500 DPS tank as you said. Excuse me. Yeah, well, it's just like my-á*opinion*, man.
Janey T'gahl Caldari Provisions Caldari State 6	Posted - 2015.03.15 08:15:21 - [34] - Quote Thank you so much for all the responses guys. I know the question was tengu vs stratios, but do you guys recommend any other ship that might be on pair or better?
Garrett Osinov Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2015.03.15 13:06:46 - [35] - Quote Janey T'gahl wrote: Thank you so much for all the responses guys. I know the question was tengu vs stratios, but do you guys recommend any other ship that might be on pair or better? Gila...if you have a scanner ship.
Janey T'gahl Caldari Provisions Caldari State 6	Posted - 2015.03.15 13:27:14 - [36] - Quote Garrett Osinov wrote: Janey T'gahl wrote: Thank you so much for all the responses guys. I know the question was tengu vs stratios, but do you guys recommend any other ship that might be on pair or better? Gila...if you have a scanner ship. I already have a Gila, no scanner ship though. But would the Gila really work in lowsec/wh? Wouldn't a ship that can fit covert ops cloak be more suitable?
Tsukino Stareine Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class 1085	Posted - 2015.03.15 13:48:31 - [37] - Quote you can fit a regular cloak and mwd on most ships and be immune to all but the most dedicated camps.
Janey T'gahl Caldari Provisions Caldari State 6	Posted - 2015.03.15 15:19:07 - [38] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: you can fit a regular cloak and mwd on most ships and be immune to all but the most dedicated camps. Yeah, true. But for someone who's never set foot inside a wormhole, wouldn't a covert ops be kinda of essential, or would a regular cloak do fine?
Xequecal GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 273	Posted - 2015.03.15 15:53:00 - [39] - Quote What you guys have to remember is that Sleepers basically do EM/Therm damage only against cruisers. You will effectively sig tank the exp/kin missiles sleepers shoot even if you're webbed to a standstill. Tengu has 0 EM resist and that's a big problem. The only way a Tengu beats a Stratios in C3 sites is if it mobile depot refits to a 6-launcher combat fit without the covops cloak. The Stratios is going to be better at C3 running than any Tengu with a covops cloak fitted.
Janey T'gahl Caldari Provisions Caldari State 6	Posted - 2015.03.15 15:59:28 - [40] - Quote Yeah, I'm leaning towards the Stratios. Mostly because I own it and can fly it, and the tengu is 14 days away. But I can't seem to find the perfect fit.

Aeryn Atropos State War Academy Caldari State 2	Posted - 2015.03.18 06:18:19 - [41] - Quote Janey T'gahl wrote: Tsukino Stareine wrote: you can fit a regular cloak and mwd on most ships and be immune to all but the most dedicated camps. Yeah, true. But for someone who's never set foot inside a wormhole, wouldn't a covert ops be kinda of essential, or would a regular cloak do fine? If you are a novice to wormholes I would definitely advise against bringing in stuff this expensive, you will get jumped and you will lose your ship, it may not be sexy but use a t1 cruiser on c1/2 sites to get familiar with WH's first, remember there is no local and you wont know the combat recon ship is in the hole with you till he is landing on grid.
Janey T'gahl Caldari Provisions Caldari State 6	Posted - 2015.03.18 14:49:00 - [42] - Quote Aeryn Atropos wrote: Janey T'gahl wrote: Tsukino Stareine wrote: you can fit a regular cloak and mwd on most ships and be immune to all but the most dedicated camps. Yeah, true. But for someone who's never set foot inside a wormhole, wouldn't a covert ops be kinda of essential, or would a regular cloak do fine? If you are a novice to wormholes I would definitely advise against bringing in stuff this expensive, you will get jumped and you will lose your ship, it may not be sexy but use a t1 cruiser on c1/2 sites to get familiar with WH's first, remember there is no local and you wont know the combat recon ship is in the hole with you till he is landing on grid. Yeah, probably a good idea :) Got any good ship recommendations?
Warmonger Simon Wormbro Ocularis Inferno 12	Posted - 2015.03.18 16:21:07 - [43] - Quote Janey T'gahl wrote: Aeryn Atropos wrote: Janey T'gahl wrote: Tsukino Stareine wrote: you can fit a regular cloak and mwd on most ships and be immune to all but the most dedicated camps. Yeah, true. But for someone who's never set foot inside a wormhole, wouldn't a covert ops be kinda of essential, or would a regular cloak do fine? If you are a novice to wormholes I would definitely advise against bringing in stuff this expensive, you will get jumped and you will lose your ship, it may not be sexy but use a t1 cruiser on c1/2 sites to get familiar with WH's first, remember there is no local and you wont know the combat recon ship is in the hole with you till he is landing on grid. Yeah, probably a good idea :) Got any good ship recommendations? For anoms in c2 ; for c1 almost anything will work - Drake/Myrm/VNI
Janey T'gahl Caldari Provisions Caldari State 6	Posted - 2015.03.18 17:40:56 - [44] - Quote Warmonger Simon wrote: Janey T'gahl wrote: Aeryn Atropos wrote: Janey T'gahl wrote: Tsukino Stareine wrote: you can fit a regular cloak and mwd on most ships and be immune to all but the most dedicated camps. Yeah, true. But for someone who's never set foot inside a wormhole, wouldn't a covert ops be kinda of essential, or would a regular cloak do fine? If you are a novice to wormholes I would definitely advise against bringing in stuff this expensive, you will get jumped and you will lose your ship, it may not be sexy but use a t1 cruiser on c1/2 sites to get familiar with WH's first, remember there is no local and you wont know the combat recon ship is in the hole with you till he is landing on grid. Yeah, probably a good idea :) Got any good ship recommendations? For anoms in c2 - Drake/Myrm/VNI ; for c1 almost anything will work Wouldn't something that could fit a cov ops be more suitable to me from a total wh noob point of view? Or would a prototype cloak be sufficient?
Aeryn Atropos State War Academy Caldari State 2	Posted - 2015.03.18 17:43:15 - [45] - Quote I think whatever t1 combat cruiser you have the skills for should be fine in even c2, might be a little slower than BC to clear due to lower dps but you can also dip out faster when bad guys show up. Also if you get jumped and tackled shoot the trigger and let BOB sort it out.


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