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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 17:13:30 -
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Does not seem too hard to counter this..just put your own entosis module on the structure...bam problem solved...
or spread a fleet of sniping corms around the structure.... insta pop ceptors....
All I see is goon tears and they are filling up my cup
We will be enjoying this new form of SOV ..and any alliances that cannot hold their sov...will naturally contract back to a point where they have the manpower to hold it.
The whole point is to end the sprawling wasteland of empty SOV space.... and this should do it. If a 30,000 man alliance cant have a few people with entosis ships on the standby to stop SOV attacks on thier structures then they dont deserve that space.
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 17:28:01 -
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Amyclas Amatin wrote:MASSADEATH wrote:Does not seem too hard to counter this..just put your own entosis module on the structure...bam problem solved...
or spread a fleet of sniping corms around the structure.... insta pop ceptors....
All I see is goon tears and they are filling up my cup
We will be enjoying this new form of SOV ..and any alliances that cannot hold their sov...will naturally contract back to a point where they have the manpower to hold it.
The whole point is to end the sprawling wasteland of empty SOV space.... and this should do it. If a 30,000 man alliance cant have a few people with entosis ships on the standby to stop SOV attacks on thier structures then they dont deserve that space.
What will happen to any alliance that can't win on the field is that they will lose all their space. The system is very brittle in terms of points of failure. You can't afford to lose on the defensive. You can try reffing all of pure blind, we might even withdraw from many areas that we don't live in. But we won't allow you to use it.
Its ok..... you can stage out of X-70 and become"NPC trash" as well :)
we have no delusions of holding SOV..we will however take some :) and then lose it..and take it again..and lose it... ect ect
The fun will be roaming fleets of "sov ships" RFing multiple Goon/CFC systems at once... and then the rolling system fights to see if you can hold it. Forget killing your ratters.... we will be in the business of killing IHUBS :) and TCU's..so stock up :)
will we be perma dropping on your goodies ...so enjoy... |
MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 17:31:07 -
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Corey Lean wrote:MASSADEATH wrote:The whole point is to end the sprawling wasteland of empty SOV space.... and this should do it. If a 30,000 man alliance cant have a few people with entosis ships on the standby to stop SOV attacks on thier structures then they dont deserve that space No the point is about fights. Mr. Fozzie the the design goals and end-state of all these changes is to generate fights by controlling the grid through force of arms, not slippery petes or interceptors. So that should exclude the usual suspects from this conversation about sovereignty.
so come out and fight...it will be YOUR choice to defend YOUR space or not..... maybe you will have to PvP instead of ratting 24/7?
or perhaps you will be forced into 1-5 systems instead of who knows how many you guys "own" And i use the word "own" loosely as they are empty anyway. Forget the past...this is the new future....and it seems to be burning BRIGHT :)
What CCP needs to do..is tie POS/moon goo to SOV as well.... so it breaks your ISK control over the game :) |
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Posted - 2015.03.09 17:50:01 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:Eli Apol wrote:Amyclas Amatin wrote:You and what army is going to force the 5 of us who actually log in with our 6000 accounts each into what constellation? What army do we need? I thought absolutely any single player can just jump in an interceptor and roam about Deklein for a lark...we don't need an army/blob remember? the point is our numbers allow us to defend our sov, but the fact that you need goonswarm federation caliber supernumeracy to hold space is a bit of a problem for anyone else
Well it gets us 1 step closer than the current mechanics....
NOW we cant hold anything since you need a cap blob to grind a bazillion EHP structures..
FUTURE.... at least we can deny YOU (CFC/GOONS) all/most of your sov... save a few systems that you can 24/7 monitor (and even then we will offline your station services cause we can) and or cloaky camp you and strike when you move your "entosis guards"
so .... all and all... its a WIN....
will we take some SOV...yes.... will we lose it.... YES .... will we kill you and have lots of PvP doing it...oHHH YESS
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 17:53:06 -
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Corey Lean wrote:MASSADEATH wrote:so come out and fight...it will be YOUR choice to defend YOUR space or not..... maybe you will have to PvP instead of ratting 24/7 Haha what, people try to fight you all day long but you run away..in your interceptors and stealth bombers. At least you finally came clean about wanting sov though
ohh by fight you mean..... blob 4 various fleets onto our 1 fleet with 5:1 plus ratios?, and then dogpile on all the CFC alliances as well...and then a few caps and dreads to boot.. :)
ohh that kind of fighting....
see we are a Guerrilla force... we strike and move....strike and move... we dont bash our heads into your 30,000 man alliance head on.... why would we?
more goon tears please ....
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 17:55:09 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:Eli Apol wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:Eli Apol wrote: Because they can be countered by a T1 ewar frig that's even cheaper - so long as there's someone awake in local anyways.
edit: Anyone noticed that goons have to blob the forums to try and win their arguments?
you counter an interceptor at one capture node / sov structure and it just shrugs and goes to another one nothing warps faster than an interceptor so enjoy spewing logarithmically increasing numbers of evemannen to bore out a single interceptor I think you mean "Nothing warps faster than an interceptor using an entosis link that can't even start its warp for 2 minutes..." And the fallacy is revealed...because pretty much everything other than a freighter can do that. ah yes the situation where you use PSYCHIC POWERS to determine which system the interceptor plans on hitting before its entosis module cycles and allows it to exit system
Thats easily solved it you only own 1 system :) perhaps thats what you will have to do, if goons are incapable of the task to monitor more than one :) |
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Posted - 2015.03.09 17:56:36 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:[quote=Kaarous Aldurald] Cormorants, Svipuls, Confessors, Caracals, Cerberii, Cynabals, Instalocking Lokis, Instalocking Gnosis, Vagabonds, Navy Omens, Exequror Navy Issues, Insta Canes, Faction fit Huggins, Faction Fit Rapier, and if they're at long range: Rail Tengus, Rail Eagles, Rail Proteus, Arty Lokis, Cerberii (again), Nagas, Beam Legions, Beam Zealots, Arty Munnin, Faction fit Huggins (again), Faction Fit Rapier (again).
But no, let's just say interceptors are the only thing that can kill an interceptor forced to stay on grid.
Get rekt. would like to see some eft fits/graphs of any of those tracking an interceptor at long range (150km or so)
come on a corm sniping fleet :) and it will cure your doubts |
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Posted - 2015.03.09 18:01:10 -
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Borachon wrote:MASSADEATH wrote:
Its ok..... you can stage out of X-70 and become"NPC trash" as well :)
Be careful what you wish for. If this happens, basically every ihub iun the game will die within a month, and no one will put up new ones. Anomaly ratting will, as a result, die. If I was GSF leadership (thankfully I'm not), I would keep sov in one consteallation of station systems for industry bonuses and move all combat pilots to NPC nullsec. 5zxx, X-70, and N5y are about to get very full, while almost all of sov 0.0 would be completely empty. And you think this is better?
PLEASE NO>>>>>> NOT THE Anomaly ratting!!!!! what will we do?
NO..not the IHUBS as well!!!!
all of 0.0 is already empty...do you ever fly in your own area ?..DEKLIN IS EMPTY SPACE!! we have to jump 15+ jumps to even find you guys to get any targets...
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 18:08:12 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:Eli Apol wrote: This is where living in your space helps.
deklein is the most populous and densest region in eve with the best indexes so i am not sure where you are going with this
Deklin is a barren wasteland of empty useless space..where you could literally search for hours looking for targets outside of the main staging systems of the CFC and goons...and Deklin is the poster child for exactly what is wrong with the current SOV mechanics. |
MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 18:11:11 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:MASSADEATH wrote:come on a corm sniping fleet :) and it will cure your doubts ah yes the cormorant with its staggering 80-100km range
The PVE must be strong in you
you can hit to 110km with the corms for insta pop damage...and I would think that the mighty goons/CFC can field a huge fleet of perhaps 10 of them to kill ceptors...no?
Or is that beyond your PVP capabilities?
You seemed ok fielding 20+ celestis all the time to damp out fights ..so a few corms or any of th eother anti frig meta ships should be easy no?
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 18:19:24 -
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:MASSADEATH wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:Eli Apol wrote: This is where living in your space helps.
deklein is the most populous and densest region in eve with the best indexes so i am not sure where you are going with this Deklin is a barren wasteland of empty useless space..where you could literally search for hours looking for targets outside of the main staging systems of the CFC and goons...and Deklin is the poster child for exactly what is wrong with the current SOV mechanics. you do realize all of us can trivially check dotlan and see that deklein is massively more occupied than anywhere else
by occupied do you mean eyes in every system to warn the ratters that a gang is coming? so they can dock up? since almost every system now has a station in it?
or by occupied do you mean that a fighting force is ready to respond to defend its sov?
or a fighting force like "theta" that is ready to protect its ratters :)
If you are so heavily "occupied" then it should be no problem defending your SOV space from a few "NPC TRASH" dwellers in frigates...
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 18:20:47 -
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:like seriously that deklein is, by far, the most inhabited and used region is an objective easily proven fact like that the sky is blue
trying to argue anything else just makes you look like an idiot even to npc posters supporting trollceptors
should be no problem defending that space then with it being so occupied then..so problem solved for you..
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 18:25:28 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:MASSADEATH wrote: Deklin is a barren wasteland of empty useless space..where you could literally search for hours looking for targets outside of the main staging systems of the CFC and goons...and Deklin is the poster child for exactly what is wrong with the current SOV mechanics.
yeah sometimes you have to wait up to thirty minutes for a terrible membercorp to use the ya0 beacon
perhaps you should have PvP guards on your beacons? Or weigh the risks on using them.
perhaps you will have to have "SOV guards" on duty in your systems?
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 18:28:51 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:SilentAsTheGrave wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:MASSADEATH wrote: see we are a Guerrilla force... we strike and move....strike and move... we dont bash our heads into your 30,000 man alliance head on.... why would we?
"we don't do pvp, because we always lose" Just because they enjoy the game differently than your F1 monkeys doesn't mean they are doing it wrong. enjoying being camped into 5zxx by 15 chimeras long enough for them to jump clone back to empire is probably the weirdest fetish I have ever encountered in this crazy internet
when you "hell camp" us...we just move...or take out another fleet and just leave you to sit and watch an empty station... here come the threats of "hell camp" number? 10 now maybe more? how many titans was it last time 12? camping us?
perhaps if you took the same amount of effort to "hell camp" your OWN systems..you would have already divised a plan to defend your SOV :)
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 18:33:06 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:MASSADEATH wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:like seriously that deklein is, by far, the most inhabited and used region is an objective easily proven fact like that the sky is blue
trying to argue anything else just makes you look like an idiot even to npc posters supporting trollceptors should be no problem defending that space then with it being so occupied then..so problem solved for you.. we can argue against a hilariously overpowered game feature while simultaneously being in the best position in the game to resist it
OHHH so your really trying to HELP out smaller alliances..... ahhhhh now it makes sense
Thank you very much for helping EVE....and our small alliance.
We could barely go wrong by doing the exact opposite of whatever goons/CFC or any of the other large alliances want. When you hear them cry... you know you are doing the right thing. |
MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 18:41:35 -
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:MASSADEATH wrote: Thank you very much for helping EVE....and our small alliance.
when we talk about alliances we generally mean alliances able to hold sov, not vanity alliances that can't hold sov that got kicked out of the cfc for being utterly worthless
ohh you mean hold SOV under the current blob mechanics
too bad we are now talking about the new upcoming mechanics...
perhaps you will be NPC trash as well.... that would be funny indeed :)
MOA was kicked long ago.... I think all the PvErs are now with you guys :) the current group has nothing to do with the old one :)
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 18:44:42 -
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Corey Lean wrote:MASSADEATH wrote:when you "hell camp" us...we just move... You dont have the luxury of moving. If you ever moved away from CFC lands your leader Gevlon Goblin would pull your funding. So if fact, we are not locked in the north with you, you are locked in here with us Nobody has any illusions about the defense of Deklein, it would be trivial no matter what systems they implement but that doesnt mean a ****** system shouldnt be called out. A year from now half the map would be unclaimed because no one wants to invest in areas that can be conquered by cowards in stinky petes.
Wow what a reversal..... your actually after us now.... cool.... it will save us the 15 jumps each day.
Yeah because x-70, roir, saranen, and taisy ect ect are Soooo far away to base out of to kill CfC /goons
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 18:51:05 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:Veskrashen wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:MASSADEATH wrote:come on a corm sniping fleet :) and it will cure your doubts ah yes the cormorant with its staggering 80-100km range Combat probes will land it in engagement range every time. 100km is plenty when you land within 50-70km of your target. combat probes show up on dscan the interceptor gets to disengage before you even start aligning for warp in your slow ass destroyers
DO YOU GUYS EVEN PVP?
are you telling me you are incapable of killing ceptors?
you just alpha them off the grid.... lock target.... POP..... ceptor gone....
heck you even know the max range of where they have to be around a given structure...
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 20:08:05 -
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fleet report of what the current SOV meta creates....
http://scanner.black-legion.us/index.php?ino=161760
it just rolled thru our home system of 5z and RF'd a bunch of structures a few min ago.
how is that meta anymore unfair than the fear of troll ceptors? and the possible new SOV mechanics that are being discussed?
at the end of the day..the old mechanics must die , and new ones at least given a chance...
If these large groups are as good as they say they are , they should be able to withstand anything... so why even worry?
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 20:22:02 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:MASSADEATH wrote:fleet report of what the current SOV meta creates.... http://scanner.black-legion.us/index.php?ino=161760 it just rolled thru our home system of 5z and RF'd a bunch of structures a few min ago. how is that meta anymore unfair than the fear of troll ceptors? and the possible new SOV mechanics that are being discussed? at the end of the day..the old mechanics must die , and new ones at least given a chance... If these large groups are as good as they say they are , they should be able to withstand anything... so why even worry? But you live in npc, not sov space? Wait are you crying because things in your home are being shot? You definitely want to troll sov, not hold it.
No I think it opens up options to smaller groups... perhaps on the level of... you roll thru our SOV with your blob fleet.... we RF 20 of your systems ..basically an eye, for 2 legs a hand and 2 ears
who knows what negotiation powers the new sov mechanics will open up...
scorched earth is a viable tactic...and can bring about change as well....
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 20:31:59 -
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:MASSADEATH wrote: No I think it opens up options to smaller groups... perhaps on the level of... you roll thru our SOV with your blob fleet.... we RF 20 of your systems ..basically an eye, for 2 legs a hand and 2 ears
you don't have sov, and still won't that said it is hilarious how much you're whining over your pos getting sieged
we dont care about structures..my point was the size of force being used ..blow em up....whoo hoo... its all you can do..
the real fear you have is how the new mechanics render your blob fleets useless...in the defence area
there still is no solution for the blob fleet when attacking
any small entity that "tries" (in futility) to hold sov...will just have it removed by one of these large blob fleets..we have no delusions about that. Other than the fun and fights taking and losing it.
what it does change however is we can at least at the minimum now disrupt and deny yours as well, where as the current system does not allow for that.. perhaps it will create negotiations for some groups
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 20:46:27 -
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Sougiro Seta wrote:What MASSADEATH pretends is somehow like Cuba invading USA. You blame a group of people for being more organized, more rich and, basically, more people than your group.
you are not more organized..all you have is numbers..and time on your side(aka isk/mechanics )
we have proven time and time than given anywhere equal numbers you are crushed by us.
if you are so much better...then why even complain? surely you will come out ahead against small groups like us regardless of the mechanics no?
the mechanics are your true power.... the mechanics allow your size...your size allows your domination...
if we can disrupt your moon goo and sov you would implode..the current mechanics do not allow that...
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 20:52:05 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:FT Diomedes wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:FT Diomedes wrote:All these proponents of the system keep thinking in terms of a 1v1. "I counter your off-grid boosted trollceptor with my Cerberus and my cyno alt in a Maulus."
Yes, Dominion sovereignty might not be perfect, but it is a damn site better than the above. The offensive power of Fozzie Sovereignty is completely out of balance. The defender has to be able to defend everywhere, but has no opportunity to fortify or entrench his position.
Some might say, "but the same thing will happen now!" This is simply untrue. For one, in Dominion, the offense has to commit significant assets to stage an attack. Yes, if someone brings fifty supers to the fight, A may have a problem. But if fifty supers come to the fight, A can request help from friendly alliance C and we get a big fight, or a massive blue-ball fest (that at least has the advantage of only being once, not every day). In Fozzieland, if C tries to help A against B, D will entosis C's stuff. And don't forget that anyone who comes to help probably gets Space Aids. Thank you, Fozzie. Your example is flawed for several reasons: 1.) Small alliance A doesn't hold space in the current sov system. Perhaps big brother coalition C gives them a system (for a fee), but they will never truly own space unless they themselves can bring a huge force to attack. 2.) Alliance A is the underdog, and will lose space against bigger B. So what. They can then attempt to take it back, especially if alliance B doesn't bother to utilize it. Currently, if Big Bad Alliance B takes your sov, you can't do **** about it. 3.) With the 48 hour reinforcement window, Alliance A can call in all the backup they want. It's only a minor change in tactics for them to have an alliance A member in each backup fleet. (1) Alliance A can hold space in the current system, with big brother coalition C's support. The fee is paid in military service. (2) Then how are small alliances going to gain a foothold? They cannot. They will get roflstomped by anyone large enough to want to destroy their stuff. (3) Alliance A calls for backup from Alliance C. Alliance C moves pilots over. Now honorable third parties D, E, and F, join the fun and hit C's space while they are away. D, E, and F risk nothing, because they come from NPC space or low sec. Or from a coalition so large that it can send off a bunch of pilots during prime time. In short, you will have a lot of stuff burn after this patch. Nothing will be rebuilt. Coalitions will hold the money moons and one or two critical areas where they continue to build supercapitals. Everyone else will get burned out of space in short order. Low sec and NPC nullsec are the real beneficiaries of the new system. The existing coalitions will become larger and more powerful, but 0.0 space on the whole will be more empty. Unless of course, 800k new subscribers suddenly decide to start playing tomorrow and the PCU goes up to 100k. Which all trends indicate won't happen. In the current system, there is only one way small alliances hold space: They are serfs to larger groups. They pay with military service, rental agreements, or whatever. But they have NO ABILITY to stand on their own with the current mechanics. In the new system, small alliances can attack unused systems and break down an overstretched alliances hold. They might not even bother "claiming" the space, but simply live there and continually prevent big alliance form using it. Sure, they might periodically lose there space at the whims of big bully alliance B, but that's no different than now. The difference is they can actually attack sov without bluing half the galaxy. Are you really complaining that alliance C has to weigh the risks of third partying a distant fight with their own home defense? That's a great thing for them to have to consider, and if alliance A has their space rolled because they can't bring in a big brother to help defend their space, that is also a good thing! So that's the role of small groups, being the sov trolls. It was better when we though the NPC drifters would do it, they won't get tired
you think small groups will give up? its been 2 years+ and we have not given up...and now we are finally going to have some mechanics that favour our fighting style.
we will grind you daily into the smallest possible area we can force you into.... think of the POCO wars era....x 50
more goon tears please
hopefully even more evil "sov troll" meta ships will be thought up
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 20:56:39 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:if moa was so organized then why did they fail to participate even in a token fashion in cfc pvp objectives during their short stay in the cfc
anoms are a hell of a drug
know knows..was not part of MOA then..and never would be if they were in the CFC... most of us who are involved now only came cause they DID get booted from CFC
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Posted - 2015.03.09 21:02:05 -
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:Acuma wrote:It seems like the goons story is going from "It's overpowered and we'll burn down null with trollceptors" to "it's a boring stalemate where the attacker wastes a ton of time compared to the defender and we don't like it." Is that about right? no part of your arguments have any merit and all are very, very obviously from someone who has never placed a ship at risk of dying and is probably mining veldspar at this very moment what i am merely doing is saying "even if we assume everything you say is true, then look, it's still garbage" like, the best case scenario is that it's an unfun bore-off, just with a minor advantage to the defender
UNFUN? undoing all of CFC and goon sov.... while endlessly sov trolling your area of influence into smaller and smaller chunks?
while collecting all the goon PVE tears?
as your your ratters lose ratting space area, and then start to fight who gets to rat where...and SMA is ratting in my area...and TNT is not defending this or that ? and then so and so ect ect ...
THAT IS PURE GOLD I cannot think of a better way to spend the next 2 years grinding CFC /Goons down in a battle of the wills.
hopefully the area is flooded with like minded people that will realize they too can troll the CFC/goons as well....
GOLD..PURE GOLD
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Posted - 2015.03.09 21:30:57 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:M1k3y Koontz wrote: 45 DPS at 124km, your interceptor is dead in under a minute (55.5 seconds, yes I did the math)
It's also a fifth the cost. Your move. Also, yes it has remote sebos. If you can't get two guys together to defend your space against an interceptor in your prime time, what are you doing in sov?
post type #2: is unaware of how interceptors work specifically, is unaware that an interceptor is not there 55 seconds later Well, if he's not there then he's someone else's problem. If you are in an alliance that actually only claims the space people live in, that's not an issue. "Hey Fred, he's headed your way. Let him waste about 30 minutes before you stop him eh? I've got a couple of things to do first". or alternatively. "Wow, these 50 trollceptors have been in and out of here a lot over the last hour. Made me come out and stop them twice already. Whose got the next hour?" "Sigh, that's me. I'll finish up what I'm doing and head over there in a half hour to take over. Steve, you're up after me". "Sure, be glad to... I"m just surfin' pron at the moment anyway".
You are not understanding the goons fear.... they know what will happen...just like the way we hunt thier ratters....
you start to sov troll...they respond... we counter drop...blap thier response fleet .....rinse and repeat...
UNLESS they respond in blob numbers they fail.... and in that case you dont counter drop them..you just move onto the next system.... its AWESOME...
but they cant do that all over the place...thats the crux ...
we can decide what areas to attack..... however they can only respond to a few....not all..... the ones they dont respond too will fall...
until they reach an equilibrium of the size of space they can respond too...
you see.... they dont want to lose any ratting space..... IF They do.... infighting begins..who can rat where...you stole my rats..... ect ect.... i dont have enough rats....you took my rats...
you have to understand that each CFC alliance has their own ratting space..that will turn crappy if they lose their bonus's
who has bets on what CFC alliance is booted first? I put money on SMA
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MASSADEATH
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Posted - 2015.03.09 21:33:44 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:Acuma wrote:Your objective is to spend 20-30 minutes in an active system to waste about 2-4 minutes of the defender and nothing else? Have fun with that.....I will enjoy the countless man hours wasted by these supposed "burn down all of nullsec trollceptors!"
no, the attacking interceptor gets to disengage within 2m of getting caught for the basic math challenged, 2 minutes is a lot shorter time than 20-30 minutes For the basic Math challenged: Ceptor is on minute 38 of his sov lazor. Maulus warps in, damps, warps off. Ceptor never picks up sov lazor again. the fact that you are resorting to such a restricted, unrealistic vignette is betraying your desperation So basically... our 0.0 dream won't be ended by moa after we damp them a few times? No, this can't be... massadeath promised it would be over...
you know the answer :) how many nights of the week do we attack you in your space ...every night
how many nights of the week will we attack your sov giving the new mechanics....
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Promiscuous Female wrote:Eli Apol wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote:some people need to have things repeated to them in order to understand them
some more than others i guess One last bite. 40 minute capture time. 10 minute to undo that capture. How many warps does my maulus need to do to end up 30 minutes behind your ceptor? Fin. 40 minute cap time is extremely rare, only 2 systems in deklein even fit that territory and lol for the rest of the universe here is the secret wisdom even if the attacker manages to accomplish nothing, he still wins, and at no time did he ever risk anything
perhaps the logistical might of the mighty goons should improve more of these ratting systems then.so they can be better defended with higher indices
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Eli Apol wrote:MASSADEATH wrote:you know the answer :) how many nights of the week do we attack you in your space ...every night
how many nights of the week will we attack your sov giving the new mechanics.... The other nice thing is disrupting PvE in a system to lower the indices making it much easier to cap at a later date... Trollceptors won't work for actual pvp like that but an afk cloaky will :)
Yes!!! and guess what.... we already have the whole cloaky alt thing in place !!!! :)
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:Eli Apol wrote:MASSADEATH wrote:you know the answer :) how many nights of the week do we attack you in your space ...every night
how many nights of the week will we attack your sov giving the new mechanics.... The other nice thing is disrupting PvE in a system to lower the indices making it much easier to cap at a later date... Trollceptors won't work for actual pvp like that but an afk cloaky will :) moa tried that their fleets got smashed so often when they tried to bridge people in they stopped and tried to gank ratters with just the stealth bomber, and kept losing that to afktar drones automatically attacking it :laffo:
yeah we are failing so hard at killing goons, we are the top killers of them in all of eve on a regular basis
who was it last week that lost not 1 but 2 carriers to a INTERCEPTOR FLEET !!!!! ... yep CFC/goons
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Alavaria Fera wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:Eli Apol wrote: Sure, you guys can spend other people's primetimes just trolling them - idk maybe people that actually want to take sov will turn up with fleets or put a cyno on their ceptors.
nobody will fight us, just ask massadeath who while vigoriously masturbating at the possibility of being relevant has let slip he will never actually take a fight because he'd lose he can't lose as moa has no sov He wouldn't be "prepping" his "sov laser" if he didn't intend to use it all over our "command nodes"
HEY HEY HEY... we have some VERY important POCOS that are VERY dear to us, that you constantly come and and destroy....
that hurts when you do that.....
and dont even talk about the POS's you blow up..... with all our moon goo operations.... ohh wait a sec.... we dont hold any moon goo... ok..but whatever ..we really like those POS's
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Alavaria Fera wrote:M1k3y Koontz wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:baltec1 wrote:For the love of god do not allow us such a tool because we will abuse it and make life for everyone else miserable. I think if one were to take only one thing out of the discussion, this would be it. It's a lie. We're afraid massadeath of moa will abuse it and take away our innocence as sov havers This kind of posting is why CCP don't actually read the threads. I'm out, if anything changes to the mechanics it'll be posted on TMC or EN24, so I'm not wasting any more of my time on this rabble. But it's true. Look at all the posts pointing out how scared we must be. Well ok, it might take more than just massadeath, he probably has to get some people from moa to do it, and maybe even a third party. But this is well within the reasonable range of possibilities. Thus, we are scared.
Sorry we were busy killing a few bill of your ships in YAO ..i would link you the kills but i think its against the rules..suffice to say some poor guy lost 800m+ in a hauler carrying what looks like all his goodies. Guess he thought he was safe deep in goon SOV territory...
the way I see it.... any change from what we have is a step up..and change is good and fun
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