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erg cz
Tribal Core
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Posted - 2015.03.11 17:05:38 -
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Nice troll. I am russian and I do not think any one ever will check, where my personal data are. There are top polititians and goverment employees, who's data will be followed, but 99.9 % of the RF citizens are out of it. All this jabba-jabba is only to keep important ppl under control, and I am sure OP is not on that list. Simply because he has time to play Eve. |
Mithandra
Catastrophic Operations
Nulli Secunda
233
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Posted - 2015.03.11 17:22:32 -
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Major changes to sov...
Changes to international data law...
0.0 is going to look a little different in six months..
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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Mithandra
Catastrophic Operations
Nulli Secunda
233
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Posted - 2015.03.11 17:24:03 -
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Deck Cadelanne wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Great. Let's nationalize the world wide web. This is so backwards and retrograde, I need a superlative for stupidest. Stupidestest?
Political.
Think that covers it nicely
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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Sweets Kelmalu
Thrall Nation
Brave Collective
2
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Posted - 2015.03.11 20:42:37 -
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Elenahina wrote:Hicksimus wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:
Please be aware that any discussion of real world politics from here going forward will result in the removal of people's ability to forum post.
How Russian of you. Edit: Will my capsuleer be shot in the back on the bridge between the hangar and the captains closet for this? There are numerous forums on the intertubes where the discussion of real life politics can take place. This is not one of them. Get over it.
Do not question the iron curtain comrade. |
Ilany
Nightingale Enterprises
26
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Posted - 2015.03.11 22:58:40 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Great. Let's nationalize the world wide web. This is so backwards and retrograde, I need a superlative for stupidest.
How about 'Balkanization' (of the internet)? For that is what this is.
Without naming names: Certain countries want to break the net into fiefdoms that they can control, and it's something they are pushing for strongly at various international forums. Certain other countries are fighting against this, but the majority of countries remain in the middle ground. Their officials are persuaded by the arguments of the first group (for a number of different reasons), but they haven't yet swung either way.
If you live in one of those middle-ground countries lobby your government to keep the internet as it was intended... otherwise this is what will happen to you. |
Bob Maths
EVE University
Ivy League
30
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Posted - 2015.03.11 23:21:40 -
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Ilany wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Great. Let's nationalize the world wide web. This is so backwards and retrograde, I need a superlative for stupidest. How about 'Balkanization' (of the internet)? For that is what this is. Without naming names: Certain countries want to break the net into fiefdoms that they can control, and it's something they are pushing for strongly at various international forums. Certain other countries are fighting against this, but the majority of countries remain in the middle ground. Their officials are persuaded by the arguments of the first group (for a number of different reasons), but they haven't yet swung either way. If you live in one of those middle-ground countries lobby your government to keep the internet as it was intended... otherwise this is what will happen to you.
Tell us why the internet isn't in these so-called fiefdoms? As I seem to understand (probably not very well), the internet consists of servers. Servers being hardware located on sovereign territory.
Though this is an interesting point raised by the topic, how will CCP adapt its business to upcoming interent laws? |
Ilany
Nightingale Enterprises
26
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Posted - 2015.03.11 23:36:12 -
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Bob Maths wrote:Tell us why the internet isn't in these so-called fiefdoms? As I seem to understand (probably not very well), the internet consists of servers. Servers being hardware located on sovereign territory.
Not sure if trolling, but it's not about where the servers are physically located, it's about control over the communication between them. This about how ICANN functions. Look up the Montevideo Statement or the multi-stakeholder model on Wikipedia.
Bob Maths wrote:Though this is an interesting point raised by the topic, how will CCP adapt its business to upcoming interent laws?
To some extent they already have (e.g. with Serenity), but EVE simply wouldn't be EVE if there had to be a separate shard for every country in the world.
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WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame
6629
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Posted - 2015.03.12 10:44:43 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:And now that we're talking about Russian, how about a option to block automatically anyone who posts in local with cirillic characters? It's a bloody chore to keep the channel clean...
vote Indahmawar Fazmarai for CSM
Everything's a game if you make it one - Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase
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Serene Repose
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:36:09 -
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Well, gee. I'm sorry about my first post on this which magically disappeared. Allow me to make a different kind of comment about this matter:
If you ********** then it seems ********** so one can only think ********** unless of course ********** then, naturally it would seem ******* except for instances where ******* , ******** or ***********.
It's always nice to discuss these things in an intelligent, adult fashion, and I wish to thank Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Payne for ********* , ********* and ************ - in-+al-+ien-+a-+ble as these may be.
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
596
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:38:48 -
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I certainly hope ****** notices how efficiently CCP has handled this issue.
We wouldn't want them to pull a ***** on them.
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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Snakebyte Jack
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:44:06 -
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The nature of the internet is such that all laws pertaining to information used on it should really only be covered by International Law. This is ofc only my opinion but im sure most of you will agree that this is the most logical solution.
I am generally against the NWO and Globalisation as i beleive are the Russians. However in this situation we are dealing with a technology that is inherantly Global if not solar-wide in the next few hundered years. Its important that the legal systems pertaining to it are projected and executed from the same pitch and scope.
Any attempt to execute localised laws on information that is technically freely availible with parity and redundance accross the globe it would certainly fail to be effective. Therefore an international law is required. |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
228
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:01:35 -
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The sky is not falling.  chill |
Mocam
EVE University
Ivy League
492
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Posted - 2015.03.12 13:26:40 -
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Wait and see.
The new ruling is to take effect September of this year vs next year but the Russian Internet Ombudsman is asking for a change to the law.
That will be up to their government but he's in a newly created position to see to Russia's interaction with internet companies and he's got some sound looking arguments.
http://rapsinews.com/legislation_news/20150311/273304375.html
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bloodknight2
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
351
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Posted - 2015.03.12 16:15:11 -
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WTB russian's space in null. |
Paul AtreidesMuad
Coreli Corporation
The Kadeshi
114
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Posted - 2015.03.13 01:49:17 -
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Why Russians asking ccp about their countries laws instead of asking their goverment? |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2015.03.13 02:11:06 -
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Agondray wrote:ISD always ruining forums to where you cant have a real discussion with out it being in the game.
Im sure the Russians quite know of their system, while they are a proud nation, even the US has its down sides.
*cough* net neutrality *cough*
And that's just the tip of the NSA er...iceberg.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
394
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Posted - 2015.03.13 11:37:08 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:And now that we're talking about Russian, how about a option to block automatically anyone who posts in local with cirillic characters? It's a bloody chore to keep the channel clean...
I also bounty every one of them....
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
679
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Posted - 2015.03.13 17:59:49 -
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Captain Semper wrote:Hello CCP, i have a question. 31.12.2014 a law on PD was passed and starts work at 1 september 2015. In a short this law means that all companies, sites and etc must keep russian personal data at servers that locates in Russia. Credit card number is a pd so i wont be able to pay with card. Even more - email is a pd so eveonline.com will be blocked with my provider if you (CCP) will not keep pd in Russia. So what will you do with that? Do you have servers in motherland? :/ Link for more info about this law http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/russia/2014/12/141217_russia_personal_data
I guess what that means is that either you won't be able to play or that Russia will end up like China, forever alone in their eve play. Was this Putin's idea?
-á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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Hal Morsh
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
271
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Posted - 2015.03.14 01:19:07 -
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ISD Decoy wrote:Anti-Russian propaganda will not be tolerated.
What about Russian propoganda?
BUUURRRNNNN!!!!
please don't hurt me....
CCP - Outpost code is scary.
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Lisa Ouyano
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2015.03.14 05:01:49 -
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I hope CCP is able to do something neat that either:
a) changes nothing, and no one's the wiser.
b) changes everything! and makes people cry!
I really hope it's b though. |
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Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
138
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Posted - 2015.03.14 05:07:30 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:Captain Semper wrote:Hello CCP, i have a question. 31.12.2014 a law on PD was passed and starts work at 1 september 2015. In a short this law means that all companies, sites and etc must keep russian personal data at servers that locates in Russia. Credit card number is a pd so i wont be able to pay with card. Even more - email is a pd so eveonline.com will be blocked with my provider if you (CCP) will not keep pd in Russia. So what will you do with that? Do you have servers in motherland? :/ Link for more info about this law http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/russia/2014/12/141217_russia_personal_data I guess what that means is that either you won't be able to play or that Russia will end up like China, forever alone in their eve play. Was this Putin's idea?
Its the Usual Suspects of Aggression.........sticking their nose where it don't belong. |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
231
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Posted - 2015.03.14 09:56:50 -
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why speculate ? russia is doing nothing more than protecting their data. the usa does it, europe does it. no drama or worry needed.
the internet is still a big experiment, it will look and feel nothing like it does now in say 20 years. hell i'd say even less.
why is this happening? because data is worth a lot of money.
this is nothing more than,,, we need X data stored here,,, hmmm ok we'll host a server in russia,, will that work,,, yes.
case closed. tin foil hats off,,, back to the game. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
6170
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Posted - 2015.03.14 12:31:32 -
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Well, Putin hasn't been seen in a while, so I'd guess CCP is doing something to solve this issue.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Dradis Aulmais
RW Vindicator Connection
Phoebe Freeport Republic
717
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Posted - 2015.03.14 12:59:36 -
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_xQ-ns5whw
I will just leave this here
I'm cloaked in your thread, stealing your info.
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Francis Inch
Viziam
Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2015.03.14 22:07:32 -
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:why speculate ? russia is doing nothing more than protecting their data. the usa does it, europe does it. no drama or worry needed. the internet is still a big experiment, it will look and feel nothing like it does now in say 20 years. hell i'd say even less. why is this happening? because data is worth a lot of money. this is nothing more than,,, we need X data stored here,,, hmmm ok we'll host a server in russia,, will that work,,, yes. case closed. tin foil hats off,,, back to the game.
Agreed.
Been working on projects across Europe this past year and we've had similar issues in other countries. For example, it takes written permission from the tax authorities for our German subsidiary to use finance systems hosted in the UK, and that's between two EU countries and with no personal data involved.
Businesses are used to dealing with these kinds of challenges and I'm sure it will be resolved in due time. It doesn't look as severe a requirement as hosting Serenity for Chinese requirements.
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