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Captain Semper The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx 58	Posted - 2015.03.10 12:42:29 - [1] - Quote Hello CCP, i have a question. 31.12.2014 a law on PD was passed and starts work at 1 september 2015. In a short this law means that all companies, sites and etc must keep russian personal data at servers that locates in Russia. Credit card number is a pd so i wont be able to pay with card. Even more - email is a pd so eveonline.com will be blocked with my provider if you (CCP) will not keep pd in Russia. So what will you do with that? Do you have servers in motherland? :/ Link for more info about this law http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/russia/2014/12/141217_russia_personal_data
Agondray Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces 226	Posted - 2015.03.10 12:47:41 - [2] - Quote Dude that sucks, they have 3 offices and from what I hear a server in London, I haven't heard anything about Russia. I imagine they will find a way around this because there is entire alliances and groups of Russian players that would be forced out of the game if steps aren't taken. Nothing against Russia, but the government in a lot of countries do suck. "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
embrel BamBam Inc. Outlanders United 220	Posted - 2015.03.10 12:53:12 - [3] - Quote Captain Semper wrote: Hello CCP, i have a question. 31.12.2014 a law on PD was passed and starts work at 1 september 2015. In a short this law means that all companies, sites and etc must keep russian personal data at servers that locates in Russia. Credit card number is a pd so i wont be able to pay with card. Even more - email is a pd so eveonline.com will be blocked with my provider if you (CCP) will not keep pd in Russia. So what will you do with that? Do you have servers in motherland? :/ Link for more info about this law http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/russia/2014/12/141217_russia_personal_data wut? I'd assume, no CCP along most other foreign sites will not save PD in Russa. Further I'd assume you're CC will work nonetheless. Otherwise it will not work anywhere abroad anyway. Regarding your mail... I'd assume your provider won't block as otherwise quite a lot will be blocked soon. is that law a strange attempt of keeping the web as russian as possible? (in the meantime I even tried to read the article, was a short try...)
Captain Semper The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx 58	Posted - 2015.03.10 13:01:54 - [4] - Quote embrel wrote: Captain Semper wrote: Hello CCP, i have a question. 31.12.2014 a law on PD was passed and starts work at 1 september 2015. In a short this law means that all companies, sites and etc must keep russian personal data at servers that locates in Russia. Credit card number is a pd so i wont be able to pay with card. Even more - email is a pd so eveonline.com will be blocked with my provider if you (CCP) will not keep pd in Russia. So what will you do with that? Do you have servers in motherland? :/ Link for more info about this law http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/russia/2014/12/141217_russia_personal_data wut? I'd assume, no CCP along most other foreign sites will not save PD in Russa. Further I'd assume you're CC will work nonetheless. Otherwise it will not work anywhere abroad anyway. Regarding your mail... I'd assume your provider won't block as otherwise quite a lot will be blocked soon. is that law a strange attempt of keeping the web as russian as possible? (in the meantime I even tried to read the article, was a short try...) You know, games is a less problem. Flights tickets. There is international booking system and they 100% wont have servers in Russia atleast few years. So after 01.09.15 we rather cant book tickets :/ The law is bullshit. Leave politic in this topic plz.
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 4015	Posted - 2015.03.10 13:05:54 - [5] - Quote I have taken the liberty of pointing out this thread and the question in it to CCP. Keep in mind that if and/or when an answer will be given I can not say. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Captain Semper The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx 58	Posted - 2015.03.10 13:08:01 - [6] - Quote ISD Ezwal wrote: I have taken the liberty of pointing out this thread and the question in it to CCP. Keep in mind that if and/or when an answer will be given I can not say. Well, thx
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1139	Posted - 2015.03.10 13:08:34 - [7] - Quote Snip Please refrain from discussing real life politics. ISD Ezwal. Yaay!!!!
Agondray Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces 226	Posted - 2015.03.10 13:21:42 - [8] - Quote Serene Repose wrote: Elect a real president and you won't have problems like this. I gotcher SNIP. Sadly those countries where you may have a choice of leaders, many have hidden agendas. FYI im not excluding the US in the poor leadership and there was a number of circumstances regarding us...a bit impossible for a state to cast 120% of its people in votes. Russia could be a nice place along places. "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Lucretia DeWinter Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 204	Posted - 2015.03.10 13:24:54 - [9] - Quote One method is simply to rent server space in the host country. Australia is looking at this same legislation which will also affect CCP. It is relatively simple to set up in-country Infrastructure As A Service along with policies and technologies to prevent accidental or deliberate transfer of data outwith national borders for locations where these types of laws do/will apply. Secure remote connections into that environment aren't affected, so access to the information isn't restricted, only it's movement and storage. It's just an additional cost of doing international business - whether that has any effect on companies choosing to cease their business in those countries or increased costs for the end customer remains to be seen. In theory, a smaller company like CCP should be able to implement localised personal data systems for payment processing and account management without too many problems. My only concern would be whether subscriptions/PLEX in rubles would increase to cover the additional costs.
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 6151	Posted - 2015.03.10 13:31:40 - [10] - Quote Great. Let's nationalize the world wide web. This is so backwards and retrograde, I need a superlative for stupidest. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics

Anthar Thebess 956	Posted - 2015.03.10 13:39:45 - [11] - Quote Many EU counties have the same regulations, and transferring personal informations outside borders is prohibited. This includes your address , age , etc. No one cares about it simply. Each forum you register on usually brakes few rules. All people that play WOT or whatever offspring usually give their personal information to people that are braking those laws. You could say nothing new. In case of Russian people this might quickly ... escalate , as decisions taken by Russian government are ... not dictated by "normal logic". Still it is good that someone from Russian community cared to inform CCP about those law changes , as usually most companies notice this after something bad happens to their services. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Hilti Enaka State War Academy Caldari State 18	Posted - 2015.03.10 13:45:49 - [12] - Quote Captain Semper wrote: Hello CCP, i have a question. 31.12.2014 a law on PD was passed and starts work at 1 september 2015. In a short this law means that all companies, sites and etc must keep russian personal data at servers that locates in Russia. Credit card number is a pd so i wont be able to pay with card. Even more - email is a pd so eveonline.com will be blocked with my provider if you (CCP) will not keep pd in Russia. So what will you do with that? Do you have servers in motherland? :/ Link for more info about this law http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/russia/2014/12/141217_russia_personal_data I think Safe Harbour bridges some of this?
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1140	Posted - 2015.03.10 13:47:16 - [13] - Quote All I am saying is that they are more aft to enforcing this than other countries are. It's of valid concern. Yaay!!!!
stoicfaux 5503	Posted - 2015.03.10 13:49:36 - [14] - Quote EVE PvP: Putin versus Players? Thanks folks, I'll be here all night! Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Elenahina Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 201	Posted - 2015.03.10 13:55:29 - [15] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Great. Let's nationalize the world wide web. This is so backwards and retrograde, I need a superlative for stupidest. This falls under the heading of what my father calls Premeditated Stupidity. That's when you do something so dumb, you had to have thought it through first. Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
Hilti Enaka State War Academy Caldari State 18	Posted - 2015.03.10 13:57:43 - [16] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: EVE PvP: Putin versus Players? Thanks folks, I'll be here all night! I think Putin will need shield, armor and hull reps if that happens...... Set Desto Washington.
stoicfaux 5503	Posted - 2015.03.10 14:02:36 - [17] - Quote Hilti Enaka wrote: stoicfaux wrote: EVE PvP: Putin versus Players? Thanks folks, I'll be here all night! I think Putin will need shield, armor and hull reps if that happens...... Set Desto Washington. Or we could send the CSM over to Russia to straighten things out? Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 4015	Posted - 2015.03.10 14:14:04 - [18] - Quote Locked as keeping it open was apparently a bad idea. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

CCP Falcon 10978	Posted - 2015.03.10 15:14:14 - [19] - Quote I'll offer a reply here, and will re-open this thread. Please be aware that any discussion of real world politics from here going forward will result in the removal of people's ability to forum post. There's not a huge amount that we can say regarding what's going on internally surrounding discussion of this change in the law for citizens of the Russian Federation. What we can say, is we've been aware of this legislation since it was announced publicly, and our legal team are in contact with legal representatives in Russia, who are working with us to ensure that the transition is smooth, and that we're compliant with all the new legislation that's going to be put in place. Right now, there's not really a great deal more detail that I can go into, but once we have more information, you guys will be the first to know. Regardless, our community comes first and we'll make sure that we're compliant so that players living in the Russian Federation can continue to enjoy EVE Online in the years to come. CCP Falcon \|\| Community Manager \|\| @CCP_Falcon Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3

Black Drake 17	Posted - 2015.03.10 15:19:56 - [20] - Quote Good ol' CCP

Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6401	Posted - 2015.03.10 15:22:01 - [21] - Quote Factions. Factions everywhere. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Hicksimus Xion Limited Resonance. 547	Posted - 2015.03.10 15:46:49 - [22] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Please be aware that any discussion of real world politics from here going forward will result in the removal of people's ability to forum post. How Russian of you. Edit: Will my capsuleer be shot in the back on the bridge between the hangar and the captains closet for this? Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you? Me: I've been described as a Ray Charles with Parkinsons and a drinking problem.
xxxTRUSTxxx Galactic Rangers 223	Posted - 2015.03.10 15:56:26 - [23] - Quote Hicksimus wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Please be aware that any discussion of real world politics from here going forward will result in the removal of people's ability to forum post. How Russian of you. Edit: Will my capsuleer be shot in the back on the bridge between the hangar and the captains closet for this? yes and yes you may wonder why i said yes twice. double tap.
Elenahina Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 204	Posted - 2015.03.10 16:28:11 - [24] - Quote Hicksimus wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Please be aware that any discussion of real world politics from here going forward will result in the removal of people's ability to forum post. How Russian of you. Edit: Will my capsuleer be shot in the back on the bridge between the hangar and the captains closet for this? There are numerous forums on the intertubes where the discussion of real life politics can take place. This is not one of them. Get over it. Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
No Class The Scope Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.03.10 16:40:53 - [25] - Quote Is this a real threat? Eve losing its Russian contingent of players? I'm sure they can work around this yes?
Kraft Ogburn Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 4	Posted - 2015.03.10 16:44:33 - [26] - Quote ISD Ezwal wrote: I have taken the liberty of pointing out this thread and the question in it to CCP. Keep in mind that if and/or when an answer will be given I can not say. Edit: Please refrain from discussing RL politics in this thread. The question asked is valid and the reason it is asked is a factual one. There is no need to discuss the how and why that law came into place, as this is absolutely not the place to discuss such matters. How can you discuss it without discussing politics? Are you serious? ... Putin is trying to turn Russia into an 'intranet' that no longer communicates with the rest of the world, so he can keep his citizens from flipping out over murdering people in the Ukraine, since their country is imploding due to international sanctions. I guess you guys at CCP are closer to the Bear than we are in the states...but really? Between the net neutrality bill here, and the PD bill in Russia, the internet is going to get ... weirder than it already is. This is one of the only games in existence where Russian players are actually welcomed with open arms (though on Reddit you have quite a backlash against their antics). The entire country is 'pirate state' filled with hackers trying to steal your WoT and Steam accounts, and now that will only get worse since they have a Stalinist trying to turn their net into something like North Koreas.
Kraft Ogburn Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 4	Posted - 2015.03.10 16:45:39 - [27] - Quote Hicksimus wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Please be aware that any discussion of real world politics from here going forward will result in the removal of people's ability to forum post. How Russian of you. Edit: Will my capsuleer be shot in the back on the bridge between the hangar and the captains closet for this? Quite possibly. Thats how they deal with opposition in Russia. Its like Beria and Stalin are back at the helm over there.
Kraft Ogburn Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 4	Posted - 2015.03.10 16:48:29 - [28] - Quote Elenahina wrote: Hicksimus wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Please be aware that any discussion of real world politics from here going forward will result in the removal of people's ability to forum post. How Russian of you. Edit: Will my capsuleer be shot in the back on the bridge between the hangar and the captains closet for this? There are numerous forums on the intertubes where the discussion of real life politics can take place. This is not one of them. Get over it. To be fair, this is a political situation, which has ramifications for Eve. Its impossible to unlink the two events. If Russia succeeds in doing what China has done, and limiting the access outside of Russia 'intranet' to the actual world wide 'internet' yes...we've just lost a huge chunk of our player base, and Russian cyber crime will go up. Which includes hackers stealing OUR stuff so these people who lost access to all their favorite Eve's and World of Tanks, can still play. All the while, its a direct result of the attempted annexation of the Ukraine....and the international sanctions placed on Russia. Its turning people against Putin. So he had the opposition candidate shot, and is closing down the internet to foreign sources. CCP just doesnt want a bunch of Russian bashing because of a few reasons. If nothing happens, it hurts their standing with the Russian player base...if something DOES happen, and theyre locked out...now they have the Russian hackers blasting their servers over some percieved slight against Mother Russia. Happened in other games on Steam.
Memphis Baas 202	Posted - 2015.03.10 16:49:42 - [29] - Quote My suggestion would be to not store credit card information for accounts that are incompatible with this kind of law. You can still allow payment to be made from a credit card, but discard the personal information as soon as the transaction goes through. This would allow credit cards to still be used, and just disable the recurring subscription features. I think this would be less of a hassle than having to use alternative payment methods.
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 4016	Posted - 2015.03.10 17:00:46 - [30] - Quote I have removed some rule breaking posts. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

Captain Semper The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx 60	Posted - 2015.03.10 17:07:08 - [31] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: I'll offer a reply here, and will re-open this thread. Please be aware that any discussion of real world politics from here going forward will result in the removal of people's ability to forum post. There's not a huge amount that we can say regarding what's going on internally surrounding discussion of this change in the law for citizens of the Russian Federation. What we can say, is we've been aware of this legislation since it was announced publicly, and our legal team are in contact with legal representatives in Russia, who are working with us to ensure that the transition is smooth, and that we're compliant with all the new legislation that's going to be put in place. Right now, there's not really a great deal more detail that I can go into, but once we have more information, you guys will be the first to know. Regardless, our community comes first and we'll make sure that we're compliant so that players living in the Russian Federation can continue to enjoy EVE Online in the years to come. Thank you for your concern about us :3
Altirius Saldiaro Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 319	Posted - 2015.03.10 17:19:15 - [32] - Quote Wonder is CCP will just run a Russian server like they do with China.
Ka'Narlist Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 330	Posted - 2015.03.10 17:30:23 - [33] - Quote Altirius Saldiaro wrote: Wonder is CCP will just run a Russian server like they do with China. Doubt it because they would need to setup new servers, host a new universe, maintain everything and would still loose a lot of players. Maybe they'll just setup a DB server to host all russian customer data in russia and forward all request of those players to this system internally.
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 7939	Posted - 2015.03.10 17:33:41 - [34] - Quote Altirius Saldiaro wrote: Wonder is CCP will just run a Russian server like they do with China. It is a good sugestion. Also, payments could be made in rubles. Lots of them. Technical Support

CCP Falcon 10979	Posted - 2015.03.10 17:35:48 - [35] - Quote Last warning. Keep the discussion away from real world politics. CCP Falcon \|\| Community Manager \|\| @CCP_Falcon Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3

flakeys Arkham Innovations 2736	Posted - 2015.03.10 17:49:21 - [36] - Quote You're dealing with eveplayers here falcon , just put a lock on it and sticky it in the russian forums once the ''details'' are ironed out. Or not and the inevitable lock will be a few posts away . We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Angelica Everstar 90	Posted - 2015.03.10 17:54:50 - [37] - Quote flakeys wrote: You're dealing with eveplayers here falcon , just put a lock on it and sticky it in the russian forums once the ''details'' are ironed out. Or not and the inevitable lock will be a few posts away . I would love to disagree, but you are right § Any typos, bad spelling or grammar found, are yours to keep. ¢ Bonds: Current AE07 1 Trillion (Filled) // Total : 2+ Trillon ISK ¦Æ Angel ConsultingGäó \|\| Angel's Pawn ShopGäó
Drez Arthie Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2015.03.10 18:01:17 - [38] - Quote There are already Russian third parties authorized to sell PLEX by CCP. Perhaps this party could hold the personal data?
KIller Wabbit The Scope Gallente Federation 913	Posted - 2015.03.10 19:39:08 - [39] - Quote So all the nations doing this are going to force another level of (in)secure servers in order for people to do business over the internet. Yeah, that's going to work out just fine.
Tarpedo Incursionista 1492	Posted - 2015.03.10 20:06:57 - [40] - Quote If I was a neighbor of Russian alliances I'd prepare plan for situation when their place will be abandoned. It may happen in 6 months.

Indahmawar Fazmarai 3839	Posted - 2015.03.10 20:30:14 - [41] - Quote And now that we're talking about Russian, how about a option to block automatically anyone who posts in local with cirillic characters? It's a bloody chore to keep the channel clean... The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! Ingame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6405	Posted - 2015.03.10 20:33:28 - [42] - Quote Tarpedo wrote: If I was a neighbor of Russian alliances I'd prepare plan for situation when their place will be abandoned. It may happen in 6 months. I was just wondering if the drone lands would be dead er Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Jake Rivers Senex Legio The Old Contemptibles 259	Posted - 2015.03.10 22:06:16 - [43] - Quote Well if CCP can't get this work, I just have one thing to say to those poor Russian players. Can I have your stuff? Senex Legio
Dradis Aulmais RW Vindicator Connection Phoebe Freeport Republic 716	Posted - 2015.03.10 23:28:11 - [44] - Quote Ip spoofing and TOR In before the lock cuz GD is seriuz business I'm cloaked in your thread, stealing your info.
stoicfaux 5506	Posted - 2015.03.10 23:35:49 - [45] - Quote Dradis Aulmais wrote: Ip spoofing and TOR lp spoofing activities masked via TOR connections? Those dirty Rooskies! Next thing you know, they'll be spoofing our precious bodily fluids!!! /shock_and_outrage edit: Ip, lp is there really a difference and/or consequences to font choices? Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Glathull Warlock Assassins 990	Posted - 2015.03.11 02:34:24 - [46] - Quote As someone on the U.S. side of the payments gateway end of this, I can say a couple of things: 1. I don't think it's ultimately going to turn into that big of a deal. Yes, I'm familiar with the Russian law. 2. The law itself--steering well clear of why it came about--isn't all that clear. The angle many U.S. companies are taking is that it's the unencrypted form of the payment method that constitutes the information the Russians want to keep on their soil and out of various other places. Storing the encrypted form of the payment method's details is not exactly the same and might get around certain parts of this law. I would say it gets around the letter of this law, but maintains the spirit of the law. All that is to say that my company is attempting to work around things in this way, and we think we will be successful. I have no idea what CCP is doing or attempting to do. But again, I won't be surprised if this turns out to be a relatively small issue. I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon Shut up, Anslo. --everyone
Nariya Kentaya Ministry of War Amarr Empire 1836	Posted - 2015.03.11 04:01:54 - [47] - Quote Captain Semper wrote: Hello CCP, i have a question. 31.12.2014 a law on PD was passed and starts work at 1 september 2015. In a short this law means that all companies, sites and etc must keep russian personal data at servers that locates in Russia. Credit card number is a pd so i wont be able to pay with card. Even more - email is a pd so eveonline.com will be blocked with my provider if you (CCP) will not keep pd in Russia. So what will you do with that? Do you have servers in motherland? :/ Link for more info about this law http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/russia/2014/12/141217_russia_personal_data Id be more concerened with the fact that political moves like that means your country is gearing up for isolation, or more extreme independence, which means you might have a war coming up, or at least open preparation for having war declared on you. In short, EVE is the least of your worries, getting drafted and send to fight over the freezing northlands of europe is alot more of a concern
2Sonas1Cup 29	Posted - 2015.03.11 04:22:08 - [48] - Quote http://i.imgur.com/HCdTZoA.jpg
Jenshae Chiroptera The Volition Cult 1086	Posted - 2015.03.11 04:54:51 - [49] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: ... you guys will be the first to know. ... I can just imagine this! "Bad news guys, the Russian lawyers think that your login passwords are personal data and must be stored on Russian forum." Falcon's Boss, "Wait! What? Why wasn't I told about this first?!" ( If they try this in this country, I would be happy to VPN to Iceland to by pass such ... adjective fail me ... things). CSM Ten movement for change. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids. Status: Rabid carebear Blog
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 30824	Posted - 2015.03.11 08:24:50 - [50] - Quote This thread is so volatile I can hardly stand it Help, I can't download EVE

Deck Cadelanne Exigent Circumstances CAStabouts 131	Posted - 2015.03.11 11:04:31 - [51] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Great. Let's nationalize the world wide web. This is so backwards and retrograde, I need a superlative for stupidest. Stupidestest? *"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."* - Hunter S. Thompson
DrugsDen Claws of the Demon Skeleton Crew. 3	Posted - 2015.03.11 11:12:43 - [52] - Quote With a bit of luck this will mean less russians playing EVE will be a better game for the rest of us!
Elenahina Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 210	Posted - 2015.03.11 11:18:55 - [53] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: This thread is so volatile I can hardly stand it It's like trying to juggle molotov cocktails. Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
Varathius Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation 169	Posted - 2015.03.11 11:23:56 - [54] - Quote Well, simply put, CCP can not really do much about that law that has obviously deeper reasons behind it given Russia's current economic state. They want people to return home from off-shore and conduct their businesses in the homeland. The real power will be with your own people in Russia, but after following the news, I completely understand if people decide not to complain about policies of their own country.
Amak Boma Dragon Factory 83	Posted - 2015.03.11 13:33:55 - [55] - Quote so, are our logins and passwords safe? or if server transfer will occur do we change our passwords? how this law affect our account safety
Adrie Atticus Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion 921	Posted - 2015.03.11 14:02:18 - [56] - Quote This thread is a reminder on how people are trying to solve issues by limiting options when there wasn't an issue to begin with.
Mehrune Khan Viziam Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2015.03.11 14:07:49 - [57] - Quote This server will contain their personal information only, right? No game data? If the Russian players suddenly acquire fleets of Carriers and Titans I think we will know what happened.
ISD Decoy ISD Community Communications Liaisons 407	Posted - 2015.03.11 14:31:47 - [58] - Quote Anti-Russian propaganda will not be tolerated. Please be respectful to all if you want to post on the forums. I have removed a post. Quote: 2. Be respectful toward others at all times. The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others. ISD Decoy Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Amak Boma Dragon Factory 83	Posted - 2015.03.11 15:14:55 - [59] - Quote in my opinion to prevent further rule breaking posts this thread should be locked so noone will be banned and noone will be hurt. simple. i am only hoping that they wont recevie game data sush account details . as it could give them advantage, besides that what are other consequences of this law?
ITTigerClawIK Galactic Rangers 469	Posted - 2015.03.11 16:41:58 - [60] - Quote how weird would it be without the Russian block in EVE if something couldn't be worked out, but i do hope things are worked out though.

erg cz Tribal Core 144	Posted - 2015.03.11 17:05:38 - [61] - Quote Nice troll. I am russian and I do not think any one ever will check, where my personal data are. There are top polititians and goverment employees, who's data will be followed, but 99.9 % of the RF citizens are out of it. All this jabba-jabba is only to keep important ppl under control, and I am sure OP is not on that list. Simply because he has time to play Eve.
Mithandra Catastrophic Operations Nulli Secunda 233	Posted - 2015.03.11 17:22:32 - [62] - Quote Major changes to sov... Changes to international data law... 0.0 is going to look a little different in six months.. Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
Mithandra Catastrophic Operations Nulli Secunda 233	Posted - 2015.03.11 17:24:03 - [63] - Quote Deck Cadelanne wrote: Abrazzar wrote: Great. Let's nationalize the world wide web. This is so backwards and retrograde, I need a superlative for stupidest. Stupidestest? Political. Think that covers it nicely Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
Sweets Kelmalu Thrall Nation Brave Collective 2	Posted - 2015.03.11 20:42:37 - [64] - Quote Elenahina wrote: Hicksimus wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Please be aware that any discussion of real world politics from here going forward will result in the removal of people's ability to forum post. How Russian of you. Edit: Will my capsuleer be shot in the back on the bridge between the hangar and the captains closet for this? There are numerous forums on the intertubes where the discussion of real life politics can take place. This is not one of them. Get over it. Do not question the iron curtain comrade.
Ilany Nightingale Enterprises 26	Posted - 2015.03.11 22:58:40 - [65] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Great. Let's nationalize the world wide web. This is so backwards and retrograde, I need a superlative for stupidest. How about 'Balkanization' (of the internet)? For that is what this is. Without naming names: Certain countries want to break the net into fiefdoms that they can control, and it's something they are pushing for strongly at various international forums. Certain other countries are fighting against this, but the majority of countries remain in the middle ground. Their officials are persuaded by the arguments of the first group (for a number of different reasons), but they haven't yet swung either way. If you live in one of those middle-ground countries lobby your government to keep the internet as it was intended... otherwise this is what will happen to you.
Bob Maths EVE University Ivy League 30	Posted - 2015.03.11 23:21:40 - [66] - Quote Ilany wrote: Abrazzar wrote: Great. Let's nationalize the world wide web. This is so backwards and retrograde, I need a superlative for stupidest. How about 'Balkanization' (of the internet)? For that is what this is. Without naming names: Certain countries want to break the net into fiefdoms that they can control, and it's something they are pushing for strongly at various international forums. Certain other countries are fighting against this, but the majority of countries remain in the middle ground. Their officials are persuaded by the arguments of the first group (for a number of different reasons), but they haven't yet swung either way. If you live in one of those middle-ground countries lobby your government to keep the internet as it was intended... otherwise this is what will happen to you. Tell us why the internet isn't in these so-called fiefdoms? As I seem to understand (probably not very well), the internet consists of servers. Servers being hardware located on sovereign territory. Though this is an interesting point raised by the topic, how will CCP adapt its business to upcoming interent laws?
Ilany Nightingale Enterprises 26	Posted - 2015.03.11 23:36:12 - [67] - Quote Bob Maths wrote: Tell us why the internet isn't in these so-called fiefdoms? As I seem to understand (probably not very well), the internet consists of servers. Servers being hardware located on sovereign territory. Not sure if trolling, but it's not about where the servers are physically located, it's about control over the communication between them. This about how ICANN functions. Look up the Montevideo Statement or the multi-stakeholder model on Wikipedia. Bob Maths wrote: Though this is an interesting point raised by the topic, how will CCP adapt its business to upcoming interent laws? To some extent they already have (e.g. with Serenity), but EVE simply wouldn't be EVE if there had to be a separate shard for every country in the world.
WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame 6629	Posted - 2015.03.12 10:44:43 - [68] - Quote Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: And now that we're talking about Russian, how about a option to block automatically anyone who posts in local with cirillic characters? It's a bloody chore to keep the channel clean... vote Indahmawar Fazmarai for CSM Everything's a game if you make it one - Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase
Serene Repose 2374	Posted - 2015.03.12 11:36:09 - [69] - Quote Well, gee. I'm sorry about my first post on this which magically disappeared. Allow me to make a different kind of comment about this matter: If you ******** then it seems ****** so one can only think ****** unless of course ****** then, naturally it would seem *** except for instances where *** , **** or *******. It's always nice to discuss these things in an intelligent, adult fashion, and I wish to thank Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Payne for ***** , ***** and ********** - in-+al-+ien-+a-+ble as these may be. Treason never prospers. What is the reason? Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
Pok Nibin Filial Pariahs 596	Posted - 2015.03.12 11:38:48 - [70] - Quote I certainly hope **** notices how efficiently CCP has handled this issue. We wouldn't want them to pull a *** on them. Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.

Snakebyte Jack Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 44	Posted - 2015.03.12 11:44:06 - [71] - Quote The nature of the internet is such that all laws pertaining to information used on it should really only be covered by International Law. This is ofc only my opinion but im sure most of you will agree that this is the most logical solution. I am generally against the NWO and Globalisation as i beleive are the Russians. However in this situation we are dealing with a technology that is inherantly Global if not solar-wide in the next few hundered years. Its important that the legal systems pertaining to it are projected and executed from the same pitch and scope. Any attempt to execute localised laws on information that is technically freely availible with parity and redundance accross the globe it would certainly fail to be effective. Therefore an international law is required.
xxxTRUSTxxx Galactic Rangers 228	Posted - 2015.03.12 12:01:35 - [72] - Quote The sky is not falling. chill
Mocam EVE University Ivy League 492	Posted - 2015.03.12 13:26:40 - [73] - Quote Wait and see. The new ruling is to take effect September of this year vs next year but the Russian Internet Ombudsman is asking for a change to the law. That will be up to their government but he's in a newly created position to see to Russia's interaction with internet companies and he's got some sound looking arguments. http://rapsinews.com/legislation_news/20150311/273304375.html
bloodknight2 Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 351	Posted - 2015.03.12 16:15:11 - [74] - Quote WTB russian's space in null.
Paul AtreidesMuad Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi 114	Posted - 2015.03.13 01:49:17 - [75] - Quote Why Russians asking ccp about their countries laws instead of asking their goverment?
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 7941	Posted - 2015.03.13 02:11:06 - [76] - Quote Agondray wrote: ISD always ruining forums to where you cant have a real discussion with out it being in the game. Im sure the Russians quite know of their system, while they are a proud nation, even the US has its down sides. cough net neutrality cough And that's just the tip of the ~~NSA~~ er...iceberg. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
BrundleMeth Caldari Provisions Caldari State 394	Posted - 2015.03.13 11:37:08 - [77] - Quote Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: And now that we're talking about Russian, how about a option to block automatically anyone who posts in local with cirillic characters? It's a bloody chore to keep the channel clean... I also bounty every one of them....
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy 679	Posted - 2015.03.13 17:59:49 - [78] - Quote Captain Semper wrote: Hello CCP, i have a question. 31.12.2014 a law on PD was passed and starts work at 1 september 2015. In a short this law means that all companies, sites and etc must keep russian personal data at servers that locates in Russia. Credit card number is a pd so i wont be able to pay with card. Even more - email is a pd so eveonline.com will be blocked with my provider if you (CCP) will not keep pd in Russia. So what will you do with that? Do you have servers in motherland? :/ Link for more info about this law http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/russia/2014/12/141217_russia_personal_data I guess what that means is that either you won't be able to play or that Russia will end up like China, forever alone in their eve play. Was this Putin's idea? -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á- [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG]
Hal Morsh Aliastra Gallente Federation 271	Posted - 2015.03.14 01:19:07 - [79] - Quote ISD Decoy wrote: Anti-Russian propaganda will not be tolerated. What about Russian propoganda? BUUURRRNNNN!!!! please don't hurt me.... CCP - Outpost code is scary.
Lisa Ouyano School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 20	Posted - 2015.03.14 05:01:49 - [80] - Quote I hope CCP is able to do something neat that either: a) changes nothing, and no one's the wiser. b) changes everything! and makes people cry! I really hope it's b though.

Syn Shi School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 138	Posted - 2015.03.14 05:07:30 - [81] - Quote Barbara Nichole wrote: Captain Semper wrote: Hello CCP, i have a question. 31.12.2014 a law on PD was passed and starts work at 1 september 2015. In a short this law means that all companies, sites and etc must keep russian personal data at servers that locates in Russia. Credit card number is a pd so i wont be able to pay with card. Even more - email is a pd so eveonline.com will be blocked with my provider if you (CCP) will not keep pd in Russia. So what will you do with that? Do you have servers in motherland? :/ Link for more info about this law http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/russia/2014/12/141217_russia_personal_data I guess what that means is that either you won't be able to play or that Russia will end up like China, forever alone in their eve play. Was this Putin's idea? Its the Usual Suspects of Aggression.........sticking their nose where it don't belong.
xxxTRUSTxxx Galactic Rangers 231	Posted - 2015.03.14 09:56:50 - [82] - Quote why speculate ? russia is doing nothing more than protecting their data. the usa does it, europe does it. no drama or worry needed. the internet is still a big experiment, it will look and feel nothing like it does now in say 20 years. hell i'd say even less. why is this happening? because data is worth a lot of money. this is nothing more than,,, we need X data stored here,,, hmmm ok we'll host a server in russia,, will that work,,, yes. case closed. tin foil hats off,,, back to the game.
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 6170	Posted - 2015.03.14 12:31:32 - [83] - Quote Well, Putin hasn't been seen in a while, so I'd guess CCP is doing something to solve this issue. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Dradis Aulmais RW Vindicator Connection Phoebe Freeport Republic 717	Posted - 2015.03.14 12:59:36 - [84] - Quote https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_xQ-ns5whw I will just leave this here I'm cloaked in your thread, stealing your info.
Francis Inch Viziam Amarr Empire 26	Posted - 2015.03.14 22:07:32 - [85] - Quote xxxTRUSTxxx wrote: why speculate ? russia is doing nothing more than protecting their data. the usa does it, europe does it. no drama or worry needed. the internet is still a big experiment, it will look and feel nothing like it does now in say 20 years. hell i'd say even less. why is this happening? because data is worth a lot of money. this is nothing more than,,, we need X data stored here,,, hmmm ok we'll host a server in russia,, will that work,,, yes. case closed. tin foil hats off,,, back to the game. Agreed. Been working on projects across Europe this past year and we've had similar issues in other countries. For example, it takes written permission from the tax authorities for our German subsidiary to use finance systems hosted in the UK, and that's between two EU countries and with no personal data involved. Businesses are used to dealing with these kinds of challenges and I'm sure it will be resolved in due time. It doesn't look as severe a requirement as hosting Serenity for Chinese requirements.


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