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Extreme
Eye of God Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.12.03 01:08:00 -
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EOG intelligence knows for a fact that Goonswarm will remove all low-sec customs offices and replace it with their own Goon office. Plasma, Temperate & Barren planets (P3 and P4 materials)
Question is, did Mittens have "insider trader information" from his function in CSM?
I mean, was he able to plan this ahead due to his function as CSM which gave him a strategical headstart for Goonswarm?
How will CCP deal with CSM in the future preventing such disadvantages for everyone not with contacts in CSM? |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
211
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Posted - 2011.12.03 01:14:00 -
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I don't know, could they start blowing up the custom offices before the patch came out?
(The devblog on this nullifies any and all advantage from possible insider trading) I live, I post, I slay. I am content. Alpha Flight --á an open-source initiative for newbies looking for PVP. Join channel ''Alpha Flight'' in game https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40104 |

Extreme
Eye of God Controlled Chaos
7
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Posted - 2011.12.03 01:16:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:I don't know, could they start blowing up the custom offices before the patch came out?
(The devblog on this nullifies any and all advantage from possible insider trading)
Before the patch the customs offices were 'npc' and could not be destroyed, access for all.
nuff said
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
198
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Posted - 2011.12.03 01:46:00 -
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Through devblogs everybody knew exactly how the COs would work, including exact numbers, long before the patch went live. Your point is moot. |

Extreme
Eye of God Controlled Chaos
7
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Posted - 2011.12.03 01:51:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Through devblogs everybody knew exactly how the COs would work, including exact numbers, long before the patch went live. Your point is moot.
Not that 'exact' and also remember it could have been part of the strategy to get CCP making the changes while CCP overlooked this current issue, taking over PI (P3 and P4), in low sec.
I have to give Goons that they are very smart, like they were able to disband BOB as an alliance. Why wouldn't they be smart enough to manipulate CCP?
In extension,
As CSM chairman and also being Goon leader you should have had told CCP, in function of CSM, that this can/will be Goons strategy. |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
211
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Posted - 2011.12.03 02:02:00 -
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Extreme wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:I don't know, could they start blowing up the custom offices before the patch came out?
(The devblog on this nullifies any and all advantage from possible insider trading) Before the patch the customs offices were 'npc' and could not be destroyed, access for all. nuff said
Well that was pretty much my point I live, I post, I slay. I am content. Alpha Flight --á an open-source initiative for newbies looking for PVP. Join channel ''Alpha Flight'' in game https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40104 |

Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
23
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Posted - 2011.12.03 02:02:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:Through devblogs everybody knew exactly how the COs would work, including exact numbers, long before the patch went live. Your point is moot.
Not exactly. The actual numbers were not released very far in advance at all. I was watching that one and didn't see them until after the patch. As did, apparently, most people, to judge from the request to stop filing petitions about it.
Also, the fact that goons have been all over the forums trying to shout down any objections to this suggests that this forms the keystone to their financial success after the anticipated moon goo nerf.
Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomine Tua Da Na Glorium |

Sephiroth CloneIIV
Vitriol Ventures BLACK-MARK
28
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Posted - 2011.12.03 04:05:00 -
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What you are saying is that all the valuable planets can be taken and held in lowsec and null.
Wooooooooooooww awesome. |

Mary Reed
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.03 04:07:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:Through devblogs everybody knew exactly how the COs would work, including exact numbers, long before the patch went live. Your point is moot. Not exactly. The actual numbers were not released very far in advance at all. I was watching that one and didn't see them until after the patch. As did, apparently, most people, to judge from the request to stop filing petitions about it. Also, the fact that goons have been all over the forums trying to shout down any objections to this suggests that this forms the keystone to their financial success after the anticipated moon goo nerf.
I can confirm that prior knowledge of the CO's mechanics were planned in advance of Crucible deployment.
I am a disgruntled Goon member who is tired of Darius and Mittens crap.
CSM is supposed to represent ALL of EvE not just Goonswarm and the changes that are being pushed are specific designs of Goonswarm.
I can confirm that upper management decided to deploy PRIOR to the dev blogs on the CO's.
They decided to supplement their income in the case of the nerf to moon goo and capitalize on controlling all of adjoining low sec space CO's and setting a tax rate less than the NPC's but still high enough to compensate for the moon goo losses.
Deployment orders were given and false goals were made but the ultimate goal was to put all goon and CFC forces into position to kill CO's and replace them with their own. This was clearly evident in their renewed interest in Delve and Querious as their adjoining areas are the most accessible such as Solitude, Syndicate, Aridia.
Mittens, contrary to popular belief is not an idiot. In his position as CSM chair and the information to which he is privy is detrimental to this game and to the rest of the EvE community. But remember people this is the same man who treated an employee of a hotel in which he stayed as a guest of CCP like dirt actually lower than dirt because his bacon wasn't 4 minute bacon. The entire Goonswarm nation are merely "Tools" as he put it to achieve his own goals and fortify his already bloated ego.
Also remember that Goons primary goal when their existence began was to destroy the fans enjoyment of this game and if they could the game itself!
I think they realized that the EVO community was stronger than they could have imagined and have been trying different routes since that epiphany.
They destroyed BoB from the inside now it's time to destroy this game from as close as they can get to inside of CCP thru the CSM.
What do you do when you try to infiltrate the "Enemy"? IMHO You get them to trust one of yours as head of their security. |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2447
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Posted - 2011.12.03 04:07:00 -
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i don't really care about POCOs because i'm busy drowning in technetium income, better luck next troll thread The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
23
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Posted - 2011.12.03 04:17:00 -
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Mr Mittani, Cygnet Lythanea, WWWA, speaking on the moon goo issue, sources within your own alliance have reported that you and goonswarm brass anticipate moon goo being nerfed. How then do your moon goo profits explain away the allegations EoG has leveled?
Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomine Tua Da Na Glorium |

Mary Reed
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.03 05:39:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Mr Mittani, Cygnet Lythanea, WWWA, speaking on the moon goo issue, sources within your own alliance have reported that you and goonswarm brass anticipate moon goo being nerfed. How then do your moon goo profits explain away the allegations EoG has leveled?
There is an easy answer for you Cygnet...
In his diversionary post from the discussion on this topic he refers us to a link now in his Signature.
We both have read this;
Quote: i don't really care about POCOs because i'm busy drowning in technetium income, better luck next troll thread
But yet in his "Diversionary" thread we read this;
Quote:Beyond that I'd like to see less emphasis on technetium, either a rebalancing of moon minerals across the board so 3/4ths of the nullsec moon space isn't worthless, or a 'quick fix' like R32 alchemy.
Now some people might wonder why he loves his "Swimming in Tech" to less emphasis on it.
It's simple.
Nerf Tech will cause less of it on the market less on the market will drive his net worth thru the roof.
More people need to pay attention to his manipulations.
Since Goons and CFC are deploying I must get my carrier on the field to find out where I can tell the bad guys where to drop their caps.
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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
23
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Posted - 2011.12.03 06:41:00 -
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I hate to point this out, but wouldn't re-balancing moon goo in the manner you describe also mean that more of goonswarms rivals be gaining tech moons?
Which means that the mittani would actually lose isk, not gain it, due to increased competition?
Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomine Tua Da Na Glorium |

HaxTis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2011.12.03 06:51:00 -
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I can also confirm that Mittens is in fact the Devil Incarnate and he has replaced CCP with his husk-forms so as to maintain the illusion that this game is not EVE Online and is in fact The Mittani's Jerk-Off Playground. The fact that he has a personality instead of being a wet mop like the rest of the semi-robots that play this game in highsec is indicative of the fact that he may also be ******, and as such I urge you to call the army and explain that the evil mittens and his subjugated autonomous goon collective full of exact carbon copies of his most loyal lieutenants are taking over the EVE world. Complaining to CCP is pointless as the few living members have been cleverly manipulated into a cult of personality around The Mittani, a character in a spaceship game. Your only recourse is to whine about this on a poorly-designed forum about a worse game. |

Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
23
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Posted - 2011.12.03 08:38:00 -
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HaxTis wrote:I can also confirm that Mittens is in fact the Devil Incarnate and he has replaced CCP with his husk-forms so as to maintain the illusion that this game is not EVE Online and is in fact The Mittani's Jerk-Off Playground. The fact that he has a personality instead of being a wet mop like the rest of the semi-robots that play this game in highsec is indicative of the fact that he may also be ******, and as such I urge you to call the army and explain that the evil mittens and his subjugated autonomous goon collective full of exact carbon copies of his most loyal lieutenants are taking over the EVE world. Complaining to CCP is pointless as the few living members have been cleverly manipulated into a cult of personality around The Mittani, a character in a spaceship game. Your only recourse is to whine about this on a poorly-designed forum about a worse game.
You know, I interviewed STK Scientific guys when they had that cult thing going on. I covered the BoB invasion of Fountain, the first time, back the old days. I seem to recall there wasn't a such thing as goonswarm back then.
Your attempt to troll strikes my dogged determination to get the story perfectly, wrecking for 0 damage.
Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomine Tua Da Na Glorium |

HaxTis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2011.12.03 14:06:00 -
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I don't troll, I tell it like it is. Get your tinfoil hats out. |

Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1086
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Posted - 2011.12.03 14:37:00 -
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CO destructibility was not, IIRC, implemented based on a CSM suggestion.
If Mittens decides to bogart COs in lowsec, then go blow them up. I am sure that Goonswarm will greatly enjoy having to defend 37 different COs every day. It'll keep them out of trouble. CSM - because I have not yet plumbed the depths of my inherent masochism! CSM 6 Activities Summary | My CSM blog |

Extreme
Eye of God Controlled Chaos
7
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Posted - 2011.12.03 16:42:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:CO destructibility was not, IIRC, implemented based on a CSM suggestion.
If Mittens decides to bogart COs in lowsec, then go blow them up. I am sure that Goonswarm will greatly enjoy having to defend 37 different COs every day. It'll keep them out of trouble.
Can CCP Internal Affairs be triggered then to investigate this issue (from the inside)?
I request for an investigation to take away the possibility that former (Goon) members that work for CCP now may Leak information. |

Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
349
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Posted - 2011.12.03 17:45:00 -
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Extreme wrote:EOG intelligence
Oxymoron right at the start of the post.
*golfclap*
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
WIdot Director of Quality Control and Ironically Signing My Title to Posts To Make People ~mad~ |

Extreme
Eye of God Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.12.03 17:53:00 -
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Lykouleon wrote:Extreme wrote:EOG intelligence Oxymoron right at the start of the post. *golfclap*
Your comment is off-topic (as always)
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Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
44
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Posted - 2011.12.03 18:36:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote: It'll keep them out of trouble. [Baby Snooks]He don't know us very well, do he?[/Baby Snooks] |

Death2all Supercaps
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2011.12.03 18:44:00 -
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Extreme wrote:Trebor Daehdoow wrote:CO destructibility was not, IIRC, implemented based on a CSM suggestion.
If Mittens decides to bogart COs in lowsec, then go blow them up. I am sure that Goonswarm will greatly enjoy having to defend 37 different COs every day. It'll keep them out of trouble. Can CCP Internal Affairs be triggered then to investigate this issue (from the inside)? I request for an investigation to take away the possibility that former (Goon) members, that work for CCP now, may Leak information.
Request denied pubbie.
:Dealwithit: |

Death2all Supercaps
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2011.12.03 18:44:00 -
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Extreme wrote:Trebor Daehdoow wrote:CO destructibility was not, IIRC, implemented based on a CSM suggestion.
If Mittens decides to bogart COs in lowsec, then go blow them up. I am sure that Goonswarm will greatly enjoy having to defend 37 different COs every day. It'll keep them out of trouble. Can CCP Internal Affairs be triggered then to investigate this issue (from the inside)? I request for an investigation to take away the possibility that former (Goon) members, that work for CCP now, may Leak information.
Request denied pubbie.
:Dealwithit:
edit:double post for emphasis |

Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.03 19:01:00 -
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ITT: Someone reads our post about POCOs in The War Room and completely misinterprets the intent of the post |

Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
24
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Posted - 2011.12.03 20:01:00 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:ITT: Someone reads our post about POCOs in The War Room and completely misinterprets the intent of the post
So, this was, in fact, based off actual goonswarm intelligence? (Before anyone starts on oxymorons....)
Regardless of it being a misinterpretation, it should be looked into then by CCP Internal Affairs, as it casts doubt on the legitimacy of the CSM and their relationship with CCP staff. The fact that CCP staff have been members of goonswarm in the past is well documented in interviews with the Mitt, and any suggestion of impropriety should be fully examined with an official ruling by IA.
Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomine Tua Da Na Glorium |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2463
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Posted - 2011.12.03 20:18:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:I hate to point this out, but wouldn't re-balancing moon goo in the manner you describe also mean that more of goonswarms rivals be gaining tech moons?
Which means that the mittani would actually lose isk, not gain it, due to increased competition?
I think the solution to the tech issue is probably alchemy for R32s, but I'm not a micro-level econ guy. GSF also makes more of its money off market manipulation and terror and moons.
I mean, don't get me wrong - one of my own directors, Pmchem, wrote a long post in the sci-industry thread and apparently convinced devs through that post to make some changes. This thread, here, is the longest amount of time I've ever thought about PI, besides dismissing it or insulting it as a legacy of Tyrannis, one of the Worst Expansions Eve Has Suffered, evidence of CCP's drift during the dark days of the last, uh, two years.
Anyway, I respond to serious questions in my Chairman's thread. Extreme is barely literate and EOG is a joke, there's nothing to do here but mock. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1761
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Posted - 2011.12.03 22:10:00 -
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Mary Reed wrote:
I am a disgruntled Goon member who is tired of Darius and Mittens crap. ... I think they realized that the EVO community was stronger than they could have imagined and have been trying different routes since that epiphany.
They destroyed BoB from the inside now it's time to destroy this game from as close as they can get to inside of CCP thru the CSM.
What do you do when you try to infiltrate the "Enemy"? IMHO You get them to trust one of yours as head of their security.
its hilarious that you forgot midway though you were pretending to be a goon director alt
"i am a goon director have some super secret goonswarm intel"
"random theorizing about what THOSE GOONIES are up to" |

Extreme
Eye of God Controlled Chaos
7
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Posted - 2011.12.03 22:52:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:
bla bla bla....
Anyway, I respond to serious questions in my Chairman's thread. Extreme is barely literate and EOG is a joke, there's nothing to do here but mock.
I never asked you any question, you respond here on your own choice to do so.
In this thread we just urge CCP- IA to investigate the situation as discussed here, thank you
p.s. i am pretty literate in my native language and i do speak 3 languages and currently study Icelandic, how many languages do you speak? <-- my first question ever to you. |

Grozdan Boyadijev
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2011.12.04 00:33:00 -
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I'm interested in where this "insider information" comes from, considering that you couldn't keep us interested for nearly long enough to go shoot hundreds of COs, especially when we have plenty of useful planets in our own territory for producing needed materials without going to lowsec.
Of course, I already know you'll refuse to provide your sources, since your information is made-up or came from someone else who made it up. If you're going to leak something laughable, at least attach some names to it so that we can have a good laugh about you putting words in our directors' mouths. |

Extreme
Eye of God Controlled Chaos
7
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Posted - 2011.12.04 01:01:00 -
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Grozdan Boyadijev wrote:I'm interested in where this "insider information" comes from, bla bla bla
Of course, I already know you'll refuse to provide your sources, bla bla bla
Are you with CCP's IA ? No?
Also, if you read the whole thread you'll notice that it is Mary Read that stated Mary Reed wrote:I can confirm that upper management decided to deploy PRIOR to the dev blogs on the CO's. on which Trebor replied
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:CO destructibility was not, IIRC, implemented based on a CSM suggestion.
So, that's the reason why CCP-IA will have to start to investigate on "insider information" , in my assumption former Goon players that are employed at CCP now. They still have intense bonds with each other, not that that's not allowed, but hey, mistakes and a slip of the tongue are easily made that way.
Is this clear enough? Literate enough? |
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