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Are you with CCP's IA ? No?

Also, if you read the whole thread you'll notice that it is Mary Read that stated on which Trebor replied


So, that's the reason why CCP-IA will have to start to investigate on "insider information" , in my assumption former Goon players that are employed at CCP now.
They still have intense bonds with each other, not that that's not allowed, but hey, mistakes and a slip of the tongue are easily made that way.

Is this clear enough? Literate enough?

Seems like an awful lot of effort to respond to such baseless claims. If I was innocent of wrongdoing, I'd be ignoring this crackpot OP. Even multiple responses from Mittens himself? I guess any old turd can post a load of bull and get you guys all wound up?

Seriously, the attention you're paying this topic says way more than the OP could ever write. Not saying it's true, but you guys aren't helping your case.

Sjaumst!

Seems like an awful lot of effort to respond to such baseless claims. If I was innocent of wrongdoing, I'd be ignoring this crackpot OP. Even multiple responses from Mittens himself? I guess any old turd can post a load of bull and get you guys all wound up?

Seriously, the attention you're paying this topic says way more than the OP could ever write. Not saying it's true, but you guys aren't helping your case.

Sjaumst!

Considering you haven't even produced anything resembling actual words from an actual member of a Goonswarm corporation, no, not really. If you're going to call out an alliance on the game's public forums, you better have the guts to provide this "insider info" you claim to have. Until you do that, you're simply wasting electrons whining about something that isn't even happening, since I'm pretty sure there haven't been scores of COs killed in lowsec by Goonswarm fleets in the days following Crucible's deployment.

Aside from Trebor, who simply stated that CO destructibility was not something the CSM suggested as far as he knew, no one in this thread claiming to have the inside information on us goons has demonstrated any credibility. Posting on an NPC corp alt, no matter how old it may be, isn't information.

Since The Mittani ended up as CSM chairman, it seems like the forums can't go a week without someone else claiming that he controls CCP and is personally deciding what features get added to the game, or that he has super secret information that he's sharing with us about the upcoming patches. The average vocal EVE player demonizes the "GOONS" without even bothering to try and understand why we play this game. If a group of 5000ish players wanted to ruin the game, this game would be dead already. We don't want this game to go away, because we enjoy doing the things we do. We may be mean and nasty, because it amuses us to no end to see people get upset over space pixels, but in the end, we aren't too terribly different from the average player of EVE. People seem to lack the ability to wrap their heads around someone having fun doing something other than what they consider fun.

The fact that you're unwilling to engage with anything resembling an actual argument simply further drives home the fact that you're trying to raise a stink about something that doesn't even exist. You claim to have information, but refuse to divulge the source, you claim to want to call in CCP, but are have to use a public forum to do it.

If you actually HAD any dirt on Goonswarm that could get anyone in actual trouble, you wouldn't have bothered posting a thread here. You would have contacted CCP and delivered the information and gotten things moving. If you're going to make claims, the burden of proving them is on you, in any sort of system. If you wanted to keep it private, you shouldn't have posted this thread in the first place.

Again, though, I know you're going to try and marginalize any sort of rational counter-argument, because you know you have no leverage and nothing you can show to prove your claims.

"Mutatis Mutandis"


It is amazing to have to read a wall of text this time but you are actually saying the same thing as before again.

I have to give to you that this is some kind of skill that you have to be able to do such a thing.

And yet his point still stands uncontested by yourself.

.... if you read the whole thread you'll notice that it is Mary Read that stated on which Trebor replied


So, that's the reason why CCP-IA will have to start to investigate on "insider information" , in my assumption former Goon players that are employed at CCP now.
They still have intense bonds with each other, not that that's not allowed, but hey, mistakes and a slip of the tongue are easily made that way.

I too can quote latin;

Insulsissimus Est Homo

I must admit I always shy away from threads with people quoting Latin as they always seem to be people trying to hard to be intellectual.

He might well be the "King of Idiots" but he has made a point (whether or not its a valid one remains to be seen, although I'm leaning on the crackpot side) but you haven't really said anything apart from no content posts and some insults.

He has made a baseless accusation about an alliance without anything resembling actual proof. I don't really see how it's a point. Also, if he had anything resembling evidence of wrongdoing, why post a forum thread about it prior to any sort of action from CCP? Extreme has been unwilling to divulge his sources, claims NPC alts are legitimate sources of what our alliance is doing, and doesn't seem to understand how Occam's Razor works. Unless a whole lot of us have been shooting POCOs without me noticing, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of "GOONS TAKING OVER PI IN LOWSEC" going on right now.

As I said in my original post I think it's crackpot but I was trying to emphasise the fact whenever anyone insults the Goons whether rightly or wrongly you guys always seem to pile in with insults.

A simple "refer it to CCP Internal affairs" post would have sufficed any most people would have just carried on as normal.
If its a baseless accusation like most of them are why even bother replying? You're adding fuel to a fire that probably doesn't exist and then you get people saying "The lady doth protest too much" etc etc

But then again it's a forum so people can do what the hell they please :

A simple "refer it to CCP Internal affairs" post would have sufficed any most people would have just carried on as normal.
If its a baseless accusation like most of them are why even bother replying? You're adding fuel to a fire that probably doesn't exist and then you get people saying "The lady doth protest too much" etc etc]

If the Goons want to take over all the POCO's in lowsec, they'll have to go through the Minmatar Militia.

A couple weeks into Crucible, they still haven't bothered. We've got ours up and running with no interference.

The OP is freaking out over nothing. No conspiracy here, move along folks.

Sadly, its threads like these that discredit and de-legitimize all the important things that could be discussed in Jita Park.

Wait..

Wait this isn't a troll thread?

As I said in my original post I think it's crackpot but I was trying to emphasise the fact whenever anyone insults the Goons whether rightly or wrongly you guys always seem to pile in with insults.

One good reason for that is, it seems to literally make their tinfoil hats bigger than ever. It's hilarious.

If the Goons want to take over all the POCO's in lowsec, they'll have to go through the Minmatar Militia.

One of the central fallacies of the eve universe:

Goons are ********, friendless assholes that are bad at a bad space game

but also

Goons are hyperintelligent space conspirators, with connections everywhere, determined to conquer this most excellent space game by the back door.