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Adril Alatar
Minmatar
No Quarter.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.17 14:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Sharkbait
i read the 1st 3 lines for the GM artical and got bored. it's written based on rumors and complete crap spread by others. the stuff the GM's do is for a reason, not just something they decide to do to lighten up there lives. there is much talk between the senior GM's about getting involved with ingame stuff before they get involved.
also sometimes they decide stuff based on server stability. if they think it will lag up the server or even crash it, they will get involved. you peeps basically have no idea what happens in the office regarding involving themselves in ingame affairs.
I was more patient and have read it down until:
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At one point, a joint Axiom/ASCN Fleet came up to join the fight against us, but was turned away by GM's... but we will cover that in a moment.
Are you reading what I'm reading? A group of players who wished to engage in a fight were flat out told they were not allowed to do so by a GM.
ISS/UK where shooting a pirate POS at this time and the POS didnt took any damage. They called a cease fire until this problem was solved. No one told anyone that they are not allowed to shoot or that they should go home. AXE decided to go home because it was obvious that the planned POS siege was not happening because of POS problems. This had nothing to do with a GM intervention.... i stopped reading the article after this lines....
And yes, the BOB vs ASCN article is very pro BOB.
It looks like you are only interested in BS and capital ship kills and there only in BOB losses/kills on one side while looking at ASCN/POS/AXE losses/kills on the other side. You should look also on losses of the bob carebear corps like Dark and Light, Constructive Influence and so on. They have also lost 40 BS and 1 Carrier to ASCN. And you should also look at the HAC/Interceptor kills.
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murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.17 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sharkbait
i read the 1st 3 lines for the GM artical and got bored. it's written based on rumors and complete crap spread by others. the stuff the GM's do is for a reason, not just something they decide to do to lighten up there lives. there is much talk between the senior GM's about getting involved with ingame stuff before they get involved.
also sometimes they decide stuff based on server stability. if they think it will lag up the server or even crash it, they will get involved. you peeps basically have no idea what happens in the office regarding involving themselves in ingame affairs.
You tell em Sharky! The thought of players actually thinking they have anything even remotely resembling an idea about what it takes to keep Eve running as best as possible is a complete joke.
Even trying to presume that they do is only showing the more extreem degree of contempt for the GMs, the Devs and CCP as a whole. 
Because I said so...
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Johncrab
Minmatar
Typo Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.17 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sharkbait
i read the 1st 3 lines for the GM artical and got bored...
This seems to be precisely the problem. In the article the main conclusion is that GM's do stuff without thinking and without due consideration for the involved parties.
If a GM reads 3 lines of an article that concerns his work and gets bored... well, not much left to say really.
Another great issue of Eve tribune! |
Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.17 15:29:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Johncrab
Originally by: Sharkbait
i read the 1st 3 lines for the GM artical and got bored...
This seems to be precisely the problem. In the article the main conclusion is that GM's do stuff without thinking and without due consideration for the involved parties.
If a GM reads 3 lines of an article that concerns his work and gets bored... well, not much left to say really.
Another great issue of Eve tribune!
Sharky is a dev though. :)
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Johncrab
Minmatar
Typo Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.17 15:30:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Johncrab
Originally by: Sharkbait
i read the 1st 3 lines for the GM artical and got bored...
This seems to be precisely the problem. In the article the main conclusion is that GM's do stuff without thinking and without due consideration for the involved parties.
If a GM reads 3 lines of an article that concerns his work and gets bored... well, not much left to say really.
Another great issue of Eve tribune!
Sharky is a dev though. :)
Hehe, got me there. Anyway, think my point remains valid, imo at least. |
Beringe
Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.10.17 16:13:00 -
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I can't believe people are calling this "professional".
The amount of hyperbole, supposition and bad editing crammed into this "issue" is only surpassed by the forums...but at least forum posts don't pretend to be anything other than they are.
The only 'article' I even remotely liked was the in-character one on the caldari recon ships.
The rest was drivel.
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Caldess
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.17 16:54:00 -
[37]
I enjoy reading the site, but sometimes I get the impression that there's a little bit of bias to the reports (re: the Pendulum Wars in this issue). I'd like to to read about it without seeing things that add the writers own opinion on it -- unless it's an editorial piece and clearly labeled as such.
Specifically: http://www.eve-tribune.com/19/PendulumWar2.png
I don't necessarily disagree with what is said in that image, but I'd like to draw my own conclusions rather than have someone tell me what 'apparently' happens. Same goes for the topic of the ASCN blog... just link to it, summarize if you want... I'll read it and draw my own conclusions.
Other than that I enjoy reading the site and look forward to reading more issues. Hopefully you guys take this post for what it is -- constructive criticism from a fan.
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President Hours
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Posted - 2006.10.17 17:03:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Sharkbait
i read the 1st 3 lines for the GM artical and got bored. it's written based on rumors and complete crap spread by others. the stuff the GM's do is for a reason, not just something they decide to do to lighten up there lives. there is much talk between the senior GM's about getting involved with ingame stuff before they get involved.
also sometimes they decide stuff based on server stability. if they think it will lag up the server or even crash it, they will get involved. you peeps basically have no idea what happens in the office regarding involving themselves in ingame affairs.
Welcome to the forums :)
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Guard'in
Caldari
Trade Consortium
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.17 17:06:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Sharkbait
i read the 1st 3 lines for the GM artical and got bored. it's written based on rumors and complete crap spread by others. the stuff the GM's do is for a reason, not just something they decide to do to lighten up there lives. there is much talk between the senior GM's about getting involved with ingame stuff before they get involved.
also sometimes they decide stuff based on server stability. if they think it will lag up the server or even crash it, they will get involved. you peeps basically have no idea what happens in the office regarding involving themselves in ingame affairs.
Welcome to the forums :)
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Ifni
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2006.10.17 17:08:00 -
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What a hideous way to slur the GM name. That entire article is nothing but supposition taken from the side of player, which is alot less than 50% of the story. How do articles like this get through? Have you considered the damage that may be done if someone were to take what is said in that article, as gospel?
Having seen the GM's at work in CCP HQ and having been forcefully turned away after disturbing their work I can categorically state that they are doing a damn fine job of it. Considering they have only the serverlogs to work with, and that they can't rely on the rubbish that is often spouted on these very forums, mistakes can happen. The fact that they change their rulings from time to time shows that they are willing to conceded this and adapt.
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Taz Devlin
Minmatar
Murini Ice Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.17 17:18:00 -
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That GM "article" seems more like a rant rather than a coverage of facts. But that's just me.
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Corp Search
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Posted - 2006.10.17 23:53:00 -
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Knowing both sides of the BoB/ASCN war from the inside I have to state that the tribune is pretty much spot on. ASCN is on the verge of *****ing, HC is pretty clueless, and the boards read more like WWII propaganda than a game forum at this point.
Losing fight after fight isn't fun and guess what happens when you stop having fun playing a game?
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