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2Sonas1Cup
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:12:38 -
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Im done with this game, about 30 days was enough to see this game isnt worth it.
Take care.
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:13:38 -
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Behold
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Cancel Align NOW
Greater Order Of Destruction The Good Christian Society
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:16:51 -
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Take care. Keep flying the bitter flag where ever live takes you. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:17:58 -
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What's a Sona?
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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2Sonas1Cup
39
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:21:54 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:What's a Sona?
http://i.imgur.com/9uaOodD.jpg
Sona left ahri right |
Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:24:01 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote:Take care. Nope. |
HarleyDavidson Nightrain
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:28:48 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:What's a Sona?
Your Death-O-Meter eloquently points out what I said in my post. I would love to enjoy this game for a long time and delve into the finer points it has but that doesn't seem possible with the mentality which exists among some of the player base.
Parasites left unchallenged eventually kill the host when the Host has an indifferent attitude. Wise up before it's too late. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:33:25 -
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HarleyDavidson Nightrain wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:What's a Sona? Your Death-O-Meter eloquently points out what I said in my post. I would love to enjoy this game for a long time and delve into the finer points it has but that doesn't seem possible with the mentality which exists among some of the player base. Parasites left unchallenged eventually kill the host when the Host has an indifferent attitude. Wise up before it's too late. Quit your whining. You say you like pvp but then you cry about it. This isn't honorable space combat PVP, it's kill or be killed PVP, if you don't like it that is fine, but to expect to be given preferential treatment because you are new is not going to help anyone, especially you. Find some friends and ask them to teach you how to play. If you are trying to PVP by yourself in a game of teamwork, you will always lose.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Yazzinra
Scorpion Ventures
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:34:22 -
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Some of its players? I'd say damn near all of the player base. It is a nice change of pace from most other MMOs. |
2Sonas1Cup
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:35:34 -
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Yazzinra wrote:Some of its players? I'd say damn near all of the player base. It is a nice change of pace from most other MMOs.
The fact that you cant call someone a bit ch still struggles me in this so called cold pvp game. |
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:37:30 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote:Yazzinra wrote:Some of its players? I'd say damn near all of the player base. It is a nice change of pace from most other MMOs. The fact that you cant call someone a bit ch still struggles me in this so called cold pvp game. You're a *****. There I called you a *****. Who said you can't call someone a *****?
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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HarleyDavidson Nightrain
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:39:49 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:HarleyDavidson Nightrain wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:What's a Sona? Your Death-O-Meter eloquently points out what I said in my post. I would love to enjoy this game for a long time and delve into the finer points it has but that doesn't seem possible with the mentality which exists among some of the player base. Parasites left unchallenged eventually kill the host when the Host has an indifferent attitude. Wise up before it's too late. Quit your whining. You say you like pvp but then you cry about it. This isn't honorable space combat PVP, it's kill or be killed PVP, if you don't like it that is fine, but to expect to be given preferential treatment because you are new is not going to help anyone, especially you. Find some friends and ask them to teach you how to play. If you are trying to PVP by yourself in a game of teamwork, you will always lose.
Your attitude is quite toxic. I never said I was even trying to PvP. On the contrary, I was exploring in a probe ship. Only a fool would try to PvP in a game they just started versus people that have a 10 year head start.
So before you pop-off with your arrogant wisdom, perhaps you should get more data from which to base your "I'm better than you" rhetoric. |
Caladin Brood
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:39:52 -
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Ty for taking the time to post your constructive criticism in a precise and clear manner |
Marsha Mallow
2017
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:40:36 -
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HarleyDavidson Nightrain wrote:I beta tested this game 10 yrs ago. I saw back then it was going to be a carnival of degenerates who got their rocks off "bullying" weaker opponents and so I never bought the game when it launched. Carnival of degenerates has a nice ring to it. It's not the insult you think it is.
HarleyDavidson Nightrain wrote:Unprovoked attacks from T3 ships on T1 ships should never be allowed period. Run back to your battleground then where you can win via skill rather than gear.
2Sonas1Cup wrote:The fact that you cant call someone a bit ch still struggles me in this so called cold pvp game. You just did, you can stay
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Relax, it is only a game and elections work on popularity, not competence.
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2Sonas1Cup
39
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:41:52 -
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Caladin Brood wrote:Ty for taking the time to post your constructive criticism in a precise and clear manner
No problem, I hope you enjoyed my descriptive opinion about this game. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:47:10 -
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HarleyDavidson Nightrain wrote: Your attitude is quite toxic. I never said I was even trying to PvP. On the contrary, I was exploring in a probe ship. Only a fool would try to PvP in a game they just started versus people that have a 10 year head start.
So before you pop-off with your arrogant wisdom, perhaps you should get more data from which to base your "I'm better than you" rhetoric.
I never said I was better than you, I told you to quit whining because you haven't even given the game a chance.
Dying is OK, there is no reason to get butthurt about it, we all die. One of the keys to this game is to learn how to survive. There are plenty of tactics you can use to keep yourself alive. When you die you ask yourself (or preferably friends) what you did wrong and take steps to mitigate the risk the next time you try. In essence, you learn by dying.
From your whine thread:
HarleyDavidson Nightrain wrote:I love pvp, quite frankly I'm a veteran of it, but this game allows pointless griefing unlike any other game I've seen. I see no greifing going on, you were in a wormhole, of which someone lays claim to. You invaded their territory and were engaged as a result. How do you see that as greifing?
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Jack Morrison
Manson Family Advent of Fate
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:06:00 -
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It hurts me greatly that a valued member of our community decided to leave. If you however, during all those days, came into the possession of valued items - i hereby kindly ask you to contract them to me.
"This is nothing more than a rumor with no basis of fact. Hope that's enough of a confirmation for you guys. :)"
Coolstorybro
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:09:51 -
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OP. Goodluck in your future gaming. If you ever come back again, I hope your experience works out differently next time around.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:11:15 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:HarleyDavidson Nightrain wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:What's a Sona? Your Death-O-Meter eloquently points out what I said in my post. I would love to enjoy this game for a long time and delve into the finer points it has but that doesn't seem possible with the mentality which exists among some of the player base. Parasites left unchallenged eventually kill the host when the Host has an indifferent attitude. Wise up before it's too late. Quit your whining. You say you like pvp but then you cry about it. This isn't honorable space combat PVP, it's kill or be killed PVP, if you don't like it that is fine, but to expect to be given preferential treatment because you are new is not going to help anyone, especially you. Find some friends and ask them to teach you how to play. If you are trying to PVP by yourself in a game of teamwork, you will always lose. He's mostly right though. A lot of EvE "PvP" is not PvP at all. I love PvP which is why I never got into the regular EvE PvP - which is essentially melting a player ship in which the player has 0% chance of doing anything to change the outcome.
If you want to PvP in EvE you do small gang, solo or fleet vs fleet. Anything else where the balance is so skewed in one sides favor can not logically be classified as PvP.
Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467
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HarleyDavidson Nightrain
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:14:42 -
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From your whine thread:
HarleyDavidson Nightrain wrote:I love pvp, quite frankly I'm a veteran of it, but this game allows pointless griefing unlike any other game I've seen. I see no greifing going on, you were in a wormhole, of which someone lays claim to. You invaded their territory and were engaged as a result. How do you see that as greifing?[/quote]
I never said I was in a wormhole either. Nonetheless, I was sitting at the exit. Had not moved at all. While I completely understand that once I was in the wormhole space I was free game, but I had not made any aggressive move, or movement at all when I was killed.
I'm not even trying to express anger here as you seem to perceive, it's more of a disappointment feeling because I saw this game as one that I could enjoy for years to follow and that's clearly not possible with the way it's setup.
At any rate, I not trying to change your point of view. Live long and proper in your fantasy world. |
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:18:30 -
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At the risk of sounding repetitive..
Can UaE have your stuff?
Sleep all day. Party all night. Never grow old. Never die. -óߦªß¦ç-ó
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:18:40 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:If you want to PvP in EvE you do small gang, solo or fleet vs fleet. Anything else where the balance is so skewed in one sides favor can not logically be classified as PvP. Unbelievable, did you really just say it is not logical to classify a player fighting another player as PvP?
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:19:34 -
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HarleyDavidson Nightrain wrote:I never said I was in a wormhole either. Nonetheless, I was sitting at the exit. Had not moved at all. While I completely understand that once I was in the wormhole space I was free game, but I had not made any aggressive move, or movement at all when I was killed. If the trigger for pvp is that you have to make the agression first, then how is anyone ever to pvp with you if they want to agress first?
Everyone has the choice to make an agressive move first. Doesn't make them a parasite for doing so.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:23:40 -
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HarleyDavidson Nightrain wrote: I never said I was in a wormhole either. Nonetheless, I was sitting at the exit. Had not moved at all. While I completely understand that once I was in the wormhole space I was free game, but I had not made any aggressive move, or movement at all when I was killed.
I'm not even trying to express anger here as you seem to perceive, it's more of a disappointment feeling because I saw this game as one that I could enjoy for years to follow and that's clearly not possible with the way it's setup.
At any rate, I not trying to change your point of view. Live long and proper in your fantasy world.
You didn't need to say you were in a wormhole, I saw that you were in a wormhole. You said you didn't make an aggressive move, but you did by entering the wormhole and invading his territory. Just because you were not moving is irrelevant.
Why is it not possible to enjoy the game? You haven't given a reason besides someone shooting your spaceship in a game about shooting spaceships.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:29:03 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:If you want to PvP in EvE you do small gang, solo or fleet vs fleet. Anything else where the balance is so skewed in one sides favor can not logically be classified as PvP. Unbelievable, did you really just say it is not logical to classify a player fighting another player as PvP? Thought he'd biomassed never to return; alas it was too good to be true.
Screw Eve for getting my hopes high and then dashing them to the ground and teabagging them
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:29:46 -
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Oh. Barbie boobs is quitting. *heavy sigh* What a huge surprise that is. *yawn*
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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Serene Repose
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:31:34 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote:Im done with this game, about 30 days was enough to see this game isnt worth it.
Take care.
You can't unsub a trial account, but it's a dramatic departure. Really. No. Really.
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:32:59 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Screw Eve for getting my hopes high and then dashing them to the ground and teabagging them Just give me your stuff now Jonah.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Marsha Mallow
2024
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:34:14 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:He's mostly right though. A lot of EvE "PvP" is not PvP at all. I love PvP which is why I never got into the regular EvE PvP - which is essentially melting a player ship in which the player has 0% chance of doing anything to change the outcome.
If you want to PvP in EvE you do small gang, solo or fleet vs fleet. Anything else where the balance is so skewed in one sides favor can not logically be classified as PvP. PvP in the EvE sense covers a broader spectrum than games with rigid boundaries/matching systems. Which it should in an open world sandbox. Evading a gatecamp, dodging gankers or depriving people of kills is also a form of PvP imo. You just dodged the baddies because you fit your ship properly, know how to get past/avoid them and used your brain. If you diie and lose something you can afford - and take it in good fun - it's content.
HarleyDavidson Nightrain wrote:I had not made any aggressive move, or movement at all when I was killed. If a ship is killable, we shoot it. To see the effects, pad our killboards, get lewt, or just because we're bored etc. It's nothing personal, and it's not always clear when you're shooting a new player.
HarleyDavidson Nightrain wrote:I'm not even trying to express anger here as you seem to perceive, it's more of a disappointment feeling because I saw this game as one that I could enjoy for years to follow and that's clearly not possible with the way it's setup. It's not disappointment, it's ignorance. You need to discard your preconceptions about how you think games should work and try this one how it is.
HarleyDavidson Nightrain wrote:At any rate, I not trying to change your point of view. Live long and proper in your fantasy world. You don't have to flounce off and ragequit. Actually I'd prefer players who come to the forums to ragequit didn't sometimes - at least you know there are forums, which is a step in the right direction.
One of the things you are criticising is the toxicity of the community, but we'll bend over backwards to help new players. If you ask a question or for advice, you'll get an answer. If you have a tantrum and call us all psychopaths, we'll take the **** or answer back bluntly. It's not intended to scare you away, more to pursuade you to adjust your attitude and stop being so serious.
Most vets have had a minor tantrum at some point over a shiploss or a mechanic they didn't understand btw.
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Relax, it is only a game and elections work on popularity, not competence.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23273
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:36:29 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:One of the things you are criticising is the toxicity of the community, but we'll bend over backwards to help new players. If you ask a question or for advice, you'll get an answer. If you have a tantrum and call us all psychopaths, we'll take the **** or answer back bluntly. It's not intended to scare you away, more to pursuade you to adjust your attitude and stop being so serious. So much this.
Scipio Artelius wrote:Just give me your stuff now Jonah. You wouldn't want it, it all smells of ore and livestock.
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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