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Orija Gorbachev
Nerf E4 Productions
It's the Wrong Hole
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Posted - 2015.03.20 09:27:04 -
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Okay first things first. Yes I know there are lots of threads about cap escalations in wormhole space. But people constantly seem to move off topic, go on about how **** someone else's idea is or say that you shouldn't take a Phoenix. My skills don't matter either, I can fly most sub cap ships from all races so skills don't matter.
I also don't want to deal with people who tell me I "shouldn't go into sleeper sites because you're a noob and you'll just die in a dread". I have experience in wormholes and with large ships. I'm seeking a challenge as all I have ever done is PvE and sleeper sites seem to be the pinnacle of it all.
So, to my actual questions. For soloing c5/6 sites which ships are ideal to use and why, don't just say Naglfar because verticle. We all know the nag is verticle and don't need to hear it again. I have made up some fits and have been messing around with some ships but would like to here from experienced people what would be good to take into a wh to do these site. I have been considering a revelation but I have no clue as to what works better and WHY.
Your help would be much appreciated. 
Citadel missile up the bum. It does 1 damage. It's not very effective...
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Tim Nering
R3d Fire
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Posted - 2015.03.20 09:46:57 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4zmXjrGcYI
for pve moros is always best. most deeps. maybe show the rev fit u want to use? vague question gets vague answer. |
Pissfat
Reverse Production
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Posted - 2015.03.20 09:48:19 -
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Moros 4 life.
I am Winthorp, you may remember me from such films as....
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Orija Gorbachev
Nerf E4 Productions
It's the Wrong Hole
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Posted - 2015.03.20 10:03:45 -
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Basically, what dread to use for c5/6 and why. I've been told that the Moros is nice because of its tracking and dos. Does it suffer at all from range or does that not matter?
Citadel missile up the bum. It does 1 damage. It's not very effective...
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Tim Nering
R3d Fire
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Posted - 2015.03.20 10:15:34 -
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not really.if we are being real tracking shouldn't be an issue anyway, solo escalating you rely on them flying away from you where their transverse is zero anyways.
if antimatter cant hit them right for whatever reason u can always switch ammo type. but antimatter is just fine.
nag is fine and im sure u can find a way to get the rev to work (make sure u can fit enough stabs). but dude get on sisi and screw around with it. if you wing it on TQ ur guna die. practice practice practice.
idk anything about c6 sites. |
Jack Miton
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.03.20 11:55:55 -
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Moros/Archon. Accept no substitute.
Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/
Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/
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Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
226
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Posted - 2015.03.20 12:54:07 -
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If you want to do solo escalation Moros is def. best.
[Moros, WH Solo Escalation]
Corpum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Capital Inefficient Armor Repair Unit
Imperial Navy Cap Recharger
Imperial Navy Cap Recharger
Imperial Navy Cap Recharger
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Script
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Script
Limited Mega Ion Siege Blaster I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL
Limited Mega Ion Siege Blaster I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL
Siege Module II
Limited Mega Ion Siege Blaster I, Guristas Antimatter Charge XL
Capital Semiconductor Memory Cell II
Capital Semiconductor Memory Cell II
Capital Semiconductor Memory Cell I
With perfect skills and some nice hardwirings you can usually kill 14 guardians in a single siege cycle without running out of cap. You'll need to refit some tracking computers (range scripts) in the mids once guardians get out of optimal. If you just want to do a single wave I'd recommend you do less pimp.
EDIT: Revelation can kill 6 guardians before they go into orbit, but if something goes wrong you'll be better of with the moros anyways. |
Andrew Jester
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.03.20 13:37:09 -
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phoenix #1 because of all those midslots for webs and paints
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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MooMooDachshundCow
Incertae Sedis
203
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Posted - 2015.03.20 13:53:08 -
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Moros: Highest DPS/tracking, but Cap dependent guns - this is safest, b/c clearing faster=survival, but you're stuck for a siege cycle anyway
Nag: capless guns, still soloable
Rev: Dunno, probably possible but v. difficult.
Phoenix: Lol. There's a video of one clearing a C5 site, and the comment was like "sure, it takes 5-6 times as long, but it's so much more relaxing" or something.... Anyway, very slow.
Thanny: The gentleman's choice. No siege cycle means you can sometimes GTFO when a dread would not be able to . Of course your DPS is meager relative to a dread, and you probably need shield links. Cannot do in a wolf-rayet probably either, unlike a shield dread.
You said solo. If you mean to use other ships to spawn ALL the escalation waves, then forget the Thanny, and probably the Rev/Phoenix.
Yeah, well, it's just like my-áopinion, man.
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O'nira
13.
Enigma Project
56
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:44:54 -
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moros and nag can do it easily.
rev might be able to do it but the few times i have been in a site with a rev it seems to hit hilariously low hits if it hits, might be different if its the only dread in site because angular velocity will be lower, have never flown one though so take all that with a grain of salt.
phoenix can do it in black holes, its still slower than the others. don't even try it in a non black hole
All sites have tons of warp scrams in them so a thanatos really isn't that safe either.
i'm assuming when you say solo you mean 1 escalation static plexing, you should go for t1 guns and t1 reppers, you can get officer everythng else as long as you remember to put down a dept every site and if you do get tackled you just throw everything in there and put on t2 stuff(it has 4k m3 space) |
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Lloyd Roses
916
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:00:54 -
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O'nira wrote:
rev might be able to do it but the few times i have been in a site with a rev it seems to hit hilariously low hits if it hits, might be different if its the only dread in site because angular velocity will be lower, have never flown one though so take all that with a grain of salt.
Careful, there's a bunch of rev fanbois out there. They react very grumpy if you tell them just HOW bad the rev is :p
I GÖÑ Sleipnir
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2Sonas1Cup
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:46:52 -
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Tim Nering wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4zmXjrGcYI
for pve moros is always best. most deeps. maybe show the rev fit u want to use? vague question gets vague answer.
how long does this take ir real time? |
Tim Nering
R3d Fire
42
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Posted - 2015.03.20 17:07:00 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote:Tim Nering wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4zmXjrGcYI
for pve moros is always best. most deeps. maybe show the rev fit u want to use? vague question gets vague answer. how long does this take ir real time?
you should be done in less than 1 siege cycle. of course u gotta do a lil set up first too idk if u count that. |
Lok Tsen
Bob's Unicorns of Destruction
3
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Posted - 2015.03.20 18:13:18 -
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PM me in-game and I can give you all the details, fits, tips, etc. |
Orija Gorbachev
Nerf E4 Productions
It's the Wrong Hole
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Posted - 2015.03.21 00:45:28 -
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Thanks for all the help guys. Sounds like a moros is the way to go with this. Are there any particular things i need to know?
Citadel missile up the bum. It does 1 damage. It's not very effective...
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Paikis
The Echelon Phoenix
That Escalated Quickly.
1421
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Posted - 2015.03.21 02:39:25 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:Careful, there's a bunch of rev fanbois out there. They react very grumpy if you tell them just HOW bad the rev is :p
Hi, I'll be your Revelation fanboy for today. They aren't anywhere near as bad as a lot of people make them out to be. Having said that...
Use a Moros for this. It's ugly, it's horribly cap-inefficient, it has a questionable tank... but it kills things stupidly fast and for this, you want things dead ASAP. Sleeper Wrecks don't neut you, they don't shoot you and they don't scram you. Tank goes in the high slots. |
Orija Gorbachev
Nerf E4 Productions
It's the Wrong Hole
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Posted - 2015.03.24 02:55:55 -
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And what of the Phoenix? Is it a lot worse or just takes a butt load of time to clear sites?
Citadel missile up the bum. It does 1 damage. It's not very effective...
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Jack Miton
Isogen 5
4284
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Posted - 2015.03.24 04:50:00 -
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Orija Gorbachev wrote:And what of the Phoenix? Is it a lot worse or just takes a butt load of time to clear sites?
phoenix is not a moros, it is therefore not as good as the moros.
Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/
Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/
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Pissfat
Reverse Production
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Posted - 2015.03.24 05:07:03 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Orija Gorbachev wrote:And what of the Phoenix? Is it a lot worse or just takes a butt load of time to clear sites? phoenix is not a moros, it is therefore not as good as the moros.
The Phoenix is a really good scanning dread.
I am Winthorp, you may remember me from such films as....
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Sweetsthehooker Zateki
The Desolate Order
Brave Collective
14
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Posted - 2015.03.25 23:39:58 -
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Guys I'm under the impression that moros really only work in numbers. Therefore id suggest naglfar. |
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whiskeybreath
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.30 07:17:47 -
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Orija Gorbachev wrote:Okay first things first. Yes I know there are lots of threads about cap escalations in wormhole space. But people constantly seem to move off topic, go on about how **** someone else's idea is or say that you shouldn't take a Phoenix. My skills don't matter either, I can fly most sub cap ships from all races so skills don't matter. I also don't want to deal with people who tell me I "shouldn't go into sleeper sites because you're a noob and you'll just die in a dread". I have experience in wormholes and with large ships. I'm seeking a challenge as all I have ever done is PvE and sleeper sites seem to be the pinnacle of it all.
So, to my actual questions. For soloing c5/6 sites which ships are ideal to use and why, don't just say Naglfar because verticle. We all know the nag is verticle and don't need to hear it again. I have made up some fits and have been messing around with some ships but would like to here from experienced people what would be good to take into a wh to do these site. I have been considering a revelation but I have no clue as to what works better and WHY. Your help would be much appreciated.
Drifters eat sleepers for breakfast.....
If you seek the pinnacle , then you know what you must do. |
Jack Miton
Isogen 5
4331
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Posted - 2015.03.30 10:45:13 -
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Sweetsthehooker Zateki wrote:Guys I'm under the impression that moros really only work in numbers. Therefore id suggest naglfar.
1 is a number and the Moros works fine in it.
Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/
Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/
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