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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.03.20 10:57:52 -
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I have a thread on this very topic in Science & Trade - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5594827#post5594827
*New* Addition of abundant Nullsec Ore Anomalies at Fanfest 2015
In short, let me quote the lead Dev on the matter. 
Quote:"Some forms of ISK making in Nullsec need more help than others; We are ready to announce some changes we are making, specifically for Nullsec Mining --- This is also scheduled for April release
There are a series of changes, which we are incorporating a lot of great ideas that came from CSM miners... The actual change is a Complete Rebuild of Nullsec ORES!
After these changes, the ore prospecting array nullsec anomalies will contain only Nullsec ores, but the Nullsec ores themselves will contain ALL of the minerals you need to build everything you want to build in Nullsec."
The goal here is to build a system that is much more sustainable, that allows people to increase Nullsec self-sufficiency - Allow you to build what you need to build at home."
However, it could also be partly due to stockpiling for the coming Great Eve War III, and partly due to panic buying stemmed from the uncertainty in the above.
After the dust settles, they could potentially crash hard depending on the Sov circumstances.
You may make my wallet flash as a token of Thank You for bringing this information to you.
Regards,
Information Broker & CEO of Redshield Holding Company
P.S. For more information & analysis of what is going to occur in the coming weeks to these price movements, I offer a 450 mil ISK one-time issue newsletter on the matter. |
GankYou
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Posted - 2015.03.21 12:21:55 -
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virm pasuul wrote:Fozzie also specifically mentioned the price crash of Megacyte and Zydrine. I can't quote exactly but it was in the same time frame as the proper quote above. Within a few minutes either way. His tone was that the low prices were a problem.
It may just have been Fozzie giving two examples of an overall nullsec minerals crash, it was an almost off the cuff comment.
It may also have been Fozzie just having some fun, drop the name of two minerals accidentally on purpose and watch the effect for poops and giggles.
Anyway that comment and those two minerals got picked up on fast. Within minutes the price on Jita was on it's way up, and shortly later the other hubs joined in.
It may be all null sec minerals will be buffed by CCP in terms of their prices going up, in which case other minerals will also go up. Or it may be Megacyte and Zydrine specifically.
CCP could do a few things.
The new structures could be skewed towards null sec minerals for construction to increase demand for them.
If CCP makes null sec more mining self sufficient, then that reduces the incentive to ship null sec minerals to high sec.
e.g. if freighters don't need to visit high sec to buy high sec minerals then they won't be bringing out null sec minerals to make the trip even more profitable. They will only bring out null sec minerals when the market makes the trip worthwhile.
Someone bought up all the Zydrine upto 600 ISK p/u and Megacyte upto 1k p/u all across Empire yesterday.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.03.21 12:44:17 -
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There has been a sizeable Megacyte jump today in Jita just under 900-930. I expect it to disappear soon.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.03.22 21:02:52 -
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A Zydrine dump 50 million m3 in volume has surfaced in Jita again, priced currently at 583.85. |
GankYou
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Posted - 2015.03.22 22:50:59 -
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Indeed. Speculation is very risk-involved.
One simply can't go against market forces, involving cyclical inflection points. |
GankYou
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Posted - 2015.03.23 03:43:10 -
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As is ordained by the Almighty, there are always two sides - the Ying & the Yang, the up and the down - to one coin. The concept can apply both ways, however you have to interchange the buy & sell.
Moreso, that would only be the start of the story.
I won't spoil it. |
GankYou
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Posted - 2015.03.24 12:16:00 -
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Ioci wrote:GankYou wrote:A Zydrine dump 50 million units in volume has surfaced in Jita again, priced currently at 583.85. And I'm sure that's the tip of the iceberg. I have Zydrine and Megacyte I bought two years ago.
That isn't questioned.
Anyone who's investing, is betting on Eve's bright future, where market distortions are abated, there's major increase in the number of new players along with new peaks in pilot activity.
Eve Great War III is also a major figure in that bet.
A few greater concern for those involved should be directed to the Lower end minerals, as their prices return to historical means in due time. |
GankYou
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Posted - 2015.03.27 03:36:22 -
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P.S. Relevant - http://i.imgur.com/9DzaphC.jpg
Musical.
Chairs.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.03.28 01:05:07 -
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Horses, horses everywhere, and the barn's on fire.
Here's one: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5620390#post5620390 |
GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.01 21:29:14 -
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Sell... Buy Capital Ships?! Sell... Buy... Zydrine?! Sell... Buy... Hold... Mexallon?! Sell... Buy... ANYTHING?!
Too many choises. 
I've been to Catch and Stain recently - in my Yacht, of course.  The mineral prices in Stain region track Empire's pretty well, but the ones in sovereign outposts and stations in Catch are lagging. Volume in this sov space is very thin, however. |
GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:36:37 -
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Oh, you mean this thread gets attention now, because Zyd is at 1,150 ISK p/u and Megacyte 1.6k?
http://i.imgur.com/88HDwPP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fvHSDO2.jpg
My momma always said: Keep Zyd to Mega ratio at 3.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.02 04:58:42 -
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It was hinted at during the March 2015 Fanfest, that some minerals would get increased consumption.
I've made a similar post with an addendum in my March thread in the Science & Industry section - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5634188#post5634188
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.02 06:09:12 -
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Everything is returning to equilibrium, as it should be - So It Will Be.
Told you not to go against markets at cyclical inflection points.
Anyone have any Mexallon lying around? Oh...
P.S. Don't be this guy - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=416309&find=unread Everything had been crystal-clear for the people with the eyes to see, as documented by yours truly. |
GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.02 11:08:54 -
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Theo Sotken wrote:
But really I expect these changes are going to negatively hit lowsec worse than highsec. I guess time will tell.
Please elaborate.
You know, people used to actually mine in lowsec, when it was profitable to do so. I like it when people say dramatic things, which will turn out to be exactly the 100% opposite, only to divert attention from the real coming cataclysms.
Like Mexallon. |
GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:46:09 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:GankYou wrote:
Zydrine and Megacyte are indeed a very small ratio of the rest, and it was somewhat fine, although very volatile, when Zyd and Megacyte were at 3600 ISK p/u and 5400 ISK p/u, respectively.
This time the market reaction has been a bit different, and more volatile.
Price simply doubled on the manufacturing input news.
Quote:The past two days have seen swings of ~1000 ISK in the secondary hubs, that pace was not observed last time.
There were no such swings in Domain/Jita. Secondary hubs are illiquid, hence it was all over the place for a day or two.
http://eve-markets.net/detail?typeid=40#history
http://eve-markets.net/detail?typeid=39#history
Chart history goes back only 7 years.
See you this Summer. |
GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.04 16:28:58 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:GankYou wrote:
There were no such swings in Domain/Jita.
My transaction log, over the past few days, would beg to differ, with regards to Domain.
People over-reacted a little in Domain by buying out the whole stock of Zyd there. It only lasted a few short hours, though.
P.S. Didn't want to bore you with several pages worth of transactions, so here:
http://i.imgur.com/8Agg100.jpg // http://i.imgur.com/8KC8TaK.jpg // http://i.imgur.com/fsXoXyJ.jpg
Quiet month ahead, see you around Summer time. |
GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.04 21:54:40 -
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Still satisfying demand in Domain.
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Pyerite @ 1.45 bn Units under 13 dumped in Amarr - first time I'm seeing this kind of volume for this mineral in Domain region. |
GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.05 02:16:53 -
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Judging by the buy orders, the price must've been decent. I've been to Catch and Stain on the 28th, as I've mentioned earlier, Zyd and Mega were around 450/750 in sov space, thin volume however.
I think demand has been duly satisfied throughout the week and today especially - Any higher, without lowends rebalancing lower, and Tech 1 production stops. Renters should be scrambling to farm as much ABC as they can before the end of April, and dump it on the market.
The aroma of ISK in the morning. Ahh.  |
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Posted - 2015.04.05 19:24:15 -
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Since the move has finished, time to recap:
Megacyte: Since having bottomed around 694 ISK p/u, it moved 1406 ISK during the month of March and first week of April, setting a avg. bid high of 2,100 ISK p/u. This highend mineral retraced all of it's decline since the Spring-Summer of 2014.
Zydrine's advance from the lows around 395 ISK p/u set a new multi-year high around 1488 ISK p/u in the same time period - a 1093 ISK move! This marks prices never seen since the Summer of 2013.
Price retracement throughout the month is likely, as current manufacturing consumption does not yet reflect the bid price, along with new supply becoming readily available and in large quantities, as nullsec entities scramble to farm these two minerals.
Sources used: Fuzzywork.co.uk market data, High bid values; Eve-markets for macro analysis. |
GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.06 00:59:15 -
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Traedar wrote:
The big thing is, if the devs are really going to give null sec folks all the low ends they need to build then there won't be any reason to drag high ends to empire except for profit.
Exactly that.
Jump Freighters currently carry useful cargo both ways. Of course, on big Mega/Zyd shipments, there will always be a JF available. For the right cut.
Quote:No more bringing it in and hauling out compressed low ends to build titans. It will only be brought in because it is "OMG Profit" to do so.
Just like the Good Old Days. Poking Arkonor in a Miner II-fit Thorax, then hauling it back to Empire in a frig-ceptor.
Freelancers will be supplying the high ends.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.07 17:21:29 -
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Fzhal wrote:GankYou wrote:No, the way I understand it: it isn't a Superock that you will be mining in null, I think the composition ratios of the number of Veld/Scord/ETC/ABC asteroids per field/anomaly and their sizes/volumes are getting adjusted, so that if you want to, you can build a production base on site with low(mid-)end minerals no longer being a disastrous bottleneck that they currently are. I disagree with you. It would fail if they simply added large quantities of low ends to the null belts because the highest volume low ends would be dirt cheap in High-Sec.
How will it become dirt cheap without people having mined it in the first place?
Good luck exporting Mega/Zyd to Hisec that is needed for your own production.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.07 17:38:22 -
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You said lowends will become dirt cheap without Nullsec having mined them in the first place due to, in your opinion, fail-of-an-implementation in Nullsec ore changes.
Is a contradiction.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.07 18:25:59 -
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Fzhal wrote:
If Null miners get low-end minerals when mining the ABC ores, they won't need to import as much low end compressed ore.
CCP Fozzie wrote:So it's more profitable... so that you don't need to ship in lowends, and you won't have such access of high ends, that drop the price.We want to give a similar ratio of minerals in nullsec to what you would use to do all the building.
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We're updating composition ratio of existing ABC ores and every existing ore in nullsecks.
More Tritaniumz in ABC? I don't think so.
Rather, less ABCs, more of the rest, so that people won't have the choice but to mine lowends, after they cherry pick all of the ABCs out.
Of course, some brilliant people will be selling their Mega/Zyd with ISK in their eyes. And then rebuying it from Empire at a premium in either hulls, modules, or both.
Quote:But high-sec miners will be left mining what they currently have.
Tough luck. Hisec mining is/should be like level 1 thru level 2 missions.
Is a shame that Level 4 missions in the same Hisec are skewing risk-reward/time for all other activities - but what can you do. vOv
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.07 19:13:31 -
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Fzhal wrote:GankYou wrote:Fzhal wrote:
If Null miners get low-end minerals when mining the ABC ores, they won't need to import as much low end compressed ore.
More Tritaniumz in ABC? I don't think so. Okay, you got me there, I should have said null ores. Regardless, CCP wants null to have less excess, and that means that high sec won't see as much Mega/Zyd imported or low end minerals exported. That is a double whammy... Make that a triple whammy, since they are drastically increasing Mega/Zyd requirements in almost all BPOs.
Alliance industrial mining will go to their own needs, whatever surplus highends remain will end up in Empire.
As discussed on Page 3, I think the real Zyd/Mega suppliers* are going to be Freelancers.
*Empire prices reaching multiple times higher than what is observed today is not unexpected.
At current prices, taking only highends into consideration, a Venture's cargohold would be worth 1.82 mil ISK for basic Arkonor, around 1.62 mil for Bistot and 1.94 mil for Crokite.
Double that for a Prospect frigate.
50 mil / hour mining - we're getting there. 
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.07 20:18:42 -
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Fzhal wrote:The only safe bet is to expect manufactured items with little to no Mega/Zyd to come down in price?
All mineral prices can spike initially on Wars and rumours of Wars.
I think the complete lowend supply/demand rebalance will take at least till the end of Summer, the end result and timeline is subject to the scope & re-inventing of the role of capital ships, complete details and ensuing dynamics of the new Sovereignty 5.0 system, and the exact specifics of the null ore changes.
On lowneds, post in the appropriate thread - found in this very forum section.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.10 06:44:31 -
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Dev blog details imminent. Or not.
Beware of falling knives.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.12 11:00:57 -
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Khorvek wrote:
Lots of people choose to run multiple accounts to make their mining easier. Lots of other people choose to go into the ore/mining market and then sell their goods for low prices. People either don't know better, or are resistant to raising their prices, because they want high liquidity for their goods and cant "afford" to wait for market prices to get better. They want that ISK now to do something with it.
This oversupply had started with the introduction of broken ore anomalies in null.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1205/Bloodtear_Industy_Index_Report_v3.pdf
Educate oneself.
https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ore/ - Arkonor ISK per volume used to be on par with Scordite last year.
Full circle.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.12 17:39:34 -
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Shiloh Templeton wrote:
Won't this lead to a lot of future posts, "Why are ____ selling for so much less than I can build them?"
That happens to commodities that drop in popularity, or where various manufacturing facilities/networks give an edge - mainly capital ships and their components.
Battleships currently in a situation you describe.
I'm not sure of the amount of ready inventory stockpiled, but even with the doubling of input, Zyd/Mega should last us through most of the Summer at current-ish prices.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.13 00:53:07 -
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Khorvek wrote:
de-beers makes money keeping diamonds out of circulation.
This analogy does not apply to either Megacyte or Zydrine.
Technetium, perhaps, but not those two due to 1) Abudance; 2) no effective means of restricting supply; 3) loose conglomeration of renters & freelancers being the procurers, because of point one.
Quote: This old church building for sale in Cheshire, England, has relatively low liquidity. It could be sold in a matter of days at a low price, but it could take several years to find a buyer who is willing to pay a reasonable price.
Does not apply to commodities where supply is virtually inexhaustible.
CCP had ballooned it, and now they're fixing it.
Full circle.
Quote:Like I said, people sell their ores cheap because they want the isk now. If everyone held onto their ores like in Fzhal's example
The people who mine these ores do not have tens of billions in assets/liquid ISK to sit back & enjoy fine Zydrine wine, otherwise they wouldn't be mining in the first place.  That's one.
Two is: the sheer amount of potential ABCs volume available, makes even a slight volume dump on the market, develop into panic-selling.
Three: At no point is such a scenario possible, where withholding sales would constitute even a modest rise in the price of either Megacyte or Zydrine due to, once again, over abundance of these resources.
Quote:you'd see sharp increases in prices across the board.
In such a scenario, the person who selling first, sells best.
What you're looking for is Technetium, or Dysprosium as the diamonds of Eve.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.13 10:38:08 -
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You addressed none of the points presented.
Keep thinking you can counter-act market forces of supply, where it is essentially limitless, and demand, which is moderate at best.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:09:59 -
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virm pasuul wrote:This thread has turned to Nytol.
The Ineffable Market Forces - rekkin' lives since Time began.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.14 22:24:16 -
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New information from CCP Fozzie - [April] Ore, Mineral and Nullsec Mining Anomaly Revamp
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=418719&find=unread
Quote:Arkonor:
Tritanium: 22000
Mexallon: 2500
Megacyte: 320
Bistot:
Pyerite: 12000
Zydrine: 450
Megacyte: 100
Crokite:
Tritanium: 21000
Nocxium: 760
Zydrine: 135
To people who had rushed to mine Crokite this month - my condolences.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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GankYou
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Posted - 2015.04.15 12:27:14 -
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Jori McKie wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:GankYou wrote:
Lowsec ores are getting a 87-166% Zydrine content increase. Interesting.
Not many mined low sec when the prices were at peak. Many of the best out of the way systems are stop overs for caps now too, which was not the case way back. I doubt we'll see a huge increase in low sec mining. Certainly not enough to cover an almost 100% increase in build requirements. I'm not so sure. There are several lowsec systems/pockets surrounded by highsec and don't forget all the godforsaken lowsec systems at the end of world in Genesis, Khanid, Kador, Kor-Arzor, Molden Heath, Derelik etc. more or less all lowsec without FW. There are systems with less than 25jumps per day. The risks in that systems aren't higher than being ganked in highsec. Question will be how much more profit you can get and of course finding some miners with courage ;) As example look at the Genesis map: 3x lowsec systems surrounded by highsec: Beke, Vecamia, Ahbazon 2x lowsec pockets surrounded by highsec: Mih and Ashela constellation
Yes.
I've met a few successful Lowsecks mining corporations around Khanid, Tash-Murkon, Genesis area. With Rorquals.
This could get interesting, as bigger entities move into LS, following their inability to retain their empires in FozzieSov.
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Posted - 2015.04.17 14:31:47 -
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Quiet month ahead.
The lady with a sell order of 40.8 mln units of Zyd priced at 1510 p/u will have to update her order much more often.
Xaxaxa
Quiet month ahead.
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Posted - 2015.04.18 17:58:59 -
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What can I say, inexperienced speculators with double digit returns in 15 minutes in their eyes. vOv
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Posted - 2015.04.18 22:39:10 -
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virm pasuul wrote:I just logged on my Jita alt to take a look.
There are a few 10's of million zydrine sell orders up. Has the bubble started to burst?
All those with dollars signs in their eyes realising they have to actually sell the stuff to make the profit, or they will actually lose money.
At least it is not a leveraged CFD, where a 2% move can wipe you out. They might exit the trade at break-even in a month, or three.
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Posted - 2015.04.20 10:29:09 -
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Real men only buy from sell orders and sell to buy orders in times like these.
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Posted - 2015.04.20 23:58:56 -
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https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/market/marketdisplay.php?typeid=40®ionid=10000002
Take a look and tell me if I'm buying.
There is another set of commodities that will triple in value in the next month, so I wouldn't want to have capital locked down in minerals, which could last till at least the mid of Summer, or whenever the current mountains run out to meet actual demand 1:1.
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Posted - 2015.04.22 02:22:41 -
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Ren Oren wrote:virm pasuul wrote:Zydrine has fallen off a cliff in Amarr :)
Things could be about to get very messy this weekend.
There's 16 mill of support at 807, but after that there is no floor. Glad I bailed, made a very nice profit on the way up, now I'm looking for my next victim.... I mean asset GankYou can you give us a clue... is it a raw material or finished product?
Raw.
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Posted - 2015.04.23 14:07:14 -
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Picked up a few Zydrines for cheap-o over the week - http://i.imgur.com/0sfsGBX.png Would gladly buy everything upto 1500 p/u, but alas I have liquid tied to another trade at the moment.
With complete loss of Zyd yield in Arkonor and 63% reduction in the case of Crokite, along with ABC volume adjustments in the Ore Anomalies themselves, I see the current supply mountain crashing - http://i.imgur.com/1pcV6K4.png
Given the doubling of manufacturing input requirements on April 28th, my medium-long term price target is around 3340 ISK for Zyd and 4,707 ISK p/u for Megacyte.
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Posted - 2015.04.23 16:26:12 -
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Don't be hurt.
As a side point - the correction in Megacyte doesn't appear to be done just yet.
38.2% = 1797
50% = 1587
61.8% = 1376
Net yield for Megacyte remains practically the same, so if one wishes to take a trade here, you'll have to compare the new Arkonor volumes per each Ore Anomaly.
The Small anomaly AB volumes have been reduced by 52-68%.
Alexi Stokov wrote:Yeah, why did you blank out some sections but not others in your zydrine stock pic?
Keep them guessing as to the total amount.
Last time it was 48 million. 
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:02:29 -
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While the SKINs can also be considered as raw via BPCs, there are other raw resources in mind.
So much raw stuff to buy, must buy all the things. 
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:53:00 -
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If the other two destroyers come adjusted, then I doubt people would be paying 80m to fly those.
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Posted - 2015.04.24 13:38:52 -
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That new big thing will also be efficient at what it is intended to do. Agreed, double the price of Interdictors could be reasonable for some time.
Back on topic: I find there is no great pressure to sell an asset in Eve, following a major move on the news of fundamental change in its essence. Even the people who got in on Megacyte around the 2480 ISK p/u level, their unrealised loss is only at 24% currently, so long as they don't sell.
In the leveraged real world, this move would develop further down as the stakes are very high and the stops are very tight. Also, the absence of short-selling further prevents larger corrections, as the initial buyers, having enjoyed the move up, don't initiate sell positions after closing on their buys.
The only inconvenience, in this particular case of Zyd & Mega, is having your capital locked into these minerals for a few weeks to a month, or whenever the price reaches break even.
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Posted - 2015.04.24 19:47:13 -
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Not at this time.
That was a one-time issue newsletter for those entrepreneural enough. I find the lack of short-selling in Eve very limiting with regards to the number of possible different trades one can undertake - it's all BUY, BUY, BUY.
Otherwise, I'd be shorting the shiet out of the Lowend mineral market right now.
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Posted - 2015.04.24 22:37:30 -
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Why would I want to do that? Where's the profit in that.  I can see it being done with minimal volume orders, but it is not effective.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_%28finance%29
Apart from dumping all your current liabilities, i.e. battleship hulls, capital ships, which are exposed to the resources you'd like to short, there is no other way to influence the market.
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Posted - 2015.04.25 02:50:28 -
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Mexallon into the 30s p/u would be pre-capital bubble, though entirely possible - http://eve-markets.net/detail?typeid=36#history
Mid 40s in the next few months is also a likely scenario, but we should really take this into the appropriate thread - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=417056&find=unread
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Posted - 2015.04.25 19:56:02 -
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I may have been wrong in my earlier technical analysis of Zydrine.
You see, it is hard to ascertain where a particular move ends, and sometimes where another one begins, with liquidity often being thin, and I must therefore revise my work in the following manner - http://i.imgur.com/RN4a3YV.png
It is reasonable to assume, then, that true price discovery would be along the scope of the average price, and not merely sell orders. Then, the correction continues, as the current sub-wave "b" of the corrective Wave 2 is about to terminate, or has done so already, which is always followed by a third move down, as the people who got in at the top of the previous major move up (Wave 1 - V), close as many positions as they possibly can.
Buy orders during this time stop chasing the ask price, and are fulfilled quickly and in bulk - speaking of which: When I see 18 million unit single Sell orders on the market - http://i.imgur.com/Ke4ipVX.png - I just close the remaining positions, as I don't compete with speculators, especially of this level, http://imgur.com/a/S7eoX#5 - Spot the true demand.
Furthermore, without Lowends rebalancing lower in a few months time, their share of the cost will not be spread around Zydrine & Megacyte without this glorious event ever happening in the first place, as all Battleship, all Battlecruiser production stops overnight with it becoming unprofitable to manufacture these hulls for a considerable period to come, further depressing the market which barely recovered after the Tiericide.
So, all-in-all, without Entosis links being exploded everywhere - Coming July? Check their BoM! - and without major disruption in Null renter space, coupled with the current JF jump ranges, plus no tangible consumption increase as the whole Tech 1 production suffers shock and enters a paralysis, courtesy of the current Lowend Lion's share of the costs, I see Zydrine and Megacyte staying at present levels at best and will revisit sub-1,000/1,800 p/u in the near term.
The lady, who previously had a 41 mil Zyd sell order @ 1510 and since pulled, but now with 70 mil units & counting in Jita, will surely supply the economy for months to come - 3,500 battleships-worth under the new inputs!
My only hope right now is that the courier, who had undertaken to move 10% of my Zyd holdings, will not deliver it to me tonight, as the contract expires in less than 4 hours. One can hope.
If I'm wrong, I will have made less money, if everyone else is right - they make more money.
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Posted - 2015.05.01 08:00:31 -
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Sweet, sweet Zydrines - http://i.imgur.com/5wmmL1e.png
EvilweaselSA wrote:GankYou wrote:I may have been wrong in my earlier technical analysis of Zydrine. considering that technical analysis is completely discredited nonsense, yes, you will frequently fail to predict the future using it
I'll be sure to relay the informations to the King once my time in this world is done.
Third leg down may now be truncated, which marks a turn - The land lubbers will soon be able to afford 3,000 ISK Megacyte and 2,100 Zydrine, as the prices of Pyerite, Tritanium, Isogen return to their historical means, with Mexallon in free fall.
See you this Summer, and be sure to research those Entosis BPOs thoroughly - http://i.imgur.com/2Miz2bg.png
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Posted - 2015.05.19 20:17:31 -
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Welp, that escalated quickly.
http://imgur.com/a/uHb7l#0
Professionals at work - 58 mil unit Megacyte Sell order. Gÿ¦
Megacyte: http://i.imgur.com/blGPzZt.png
Likewise for Zydrine. Complex corrections are... complex.
Unfortunate.
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Posted - 2015.05.19 20:57:29 -
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It is not fun that way, Mr Pech.
http://i.imgur.com/XcqT8oE.png
Buy at i, ii, Sell at 1, 2 - had to do a little distribution on the second one.
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Posted - 2015.05.20 08:16:27 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Periodic profit taking is not going to slow things down forever either.
I'd call it periodically - taken in full & total.
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Posted - 2015.05.27 23:12:48 -
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The Zig-Zag corrections in both Zydrine and Megacyte have satisfied the 38.2% retracement of the advance off record lows in late 2014-YC116.
Megacyte - http://i.imgur.com/8glovbW.png
Levels for Zydrine are 38.2% = 1139 ISK, 50% = 997 ISK, 61.8% = 854 ISK. The correction in both of these minerals has finished, sudden 150 million units of Megacyte in a personal hangar discoveries notwithstanding.
Wave 3 will be the longest by duration, and should be 1 to 2.618x times the price movement of Wave 1.
The person with 21 million units buy order at 1111 ISK p/u for Zyd may be missing the train.
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Posted - 2015.05.29 11:15:04 -
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Race Leader wrote:GankYou wrote:The Zig-Zag corrections in both Zydrine and Megacyte have satisfied the 38.2% retracement of the advance off record lows in late 2014-YC116. Megacyte - http://i.imgur.com/8glovbW.png
Levels for Zydrine are 38.2% = 1139 ISK, 50% = 997 ISK, 61.8% = 854 ISK. The correction in both of these minerals has finished, sudden 150 million units of Megacyte in a personal hangar discoveries notwithstanding. Wave 3 will be the longest by duration, and should be 1 to 2.618x times the price movement of Wave 1. The person with 21 million units buy order at 1111 ISK p/u for Zyd may be missing the train. Please help this unfortunate soul understand what you are saying, layman's term pls. I really need to study English more...
Survey the wastelands of Aridia - there be golds there, son.
Tazinas2 wrote:GankYou wrote:The Zig-Zag corrections in both Zydrine and Megacyte have satisfied the 38.2% retracement of the advance off record lows in late 2014-YC116. Megacyte - http://i.imgur.com/8glovbW.png
Levels for Zydrine are 38.2% = 1139 ISK, 50% = 997 ISK, 61.8% = 854 ISK. The correction in both of these minerals has finished, sudden 150 million units of Megacyte in a personal hangar discoveries notwithstanding. Wave 3 will be the longest by duration, and should be 1 to 2.618x times the price movement of Wave 1. The person with 21 million units buy order at 1111 ISK p/u for Zyd may be missing the train. I really hope you are right, I got zydrine and megacyte from the last drone poo speculation that was mined years ago and im really itching for my 500B isk. :)
With 151 million units of MegaZyd, YOU are the market maker now - don't ever forget it, if you want to see your 500 or 700bn.
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Posted - 2015.05.29 13:55:20 -
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Thousands of people with stockpiles like yours makes for a worrisome scenario.
Sell now.
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Posted - 2015.06.03 16:59:09 -
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Consumption doubled, supply went down by three times.
Stockpiles aside, a fair price for Zydrine now would be 400 * 2 *3 = 2,400 ISK p/u, Mega 700 * 2 * 2.5 = 3,500 p/u. Just a rough estimate - someone pull the old anomaly volumes and start multiplying.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1205/Bloodtear_Industy_Index_Report_v3.pdf
My Entosis goes soisoisoi with old Battleship input levels - Nocxium will also benefit in the medium term and should stay above 550 p/u for awhile. (G£+GùáGÇ+Gùá)
Megacyte takes up around 6.5% of the cost in most production, Zydrine 12-15% by costs and Tritanium still 28-30% in cruisers/BC with strong 30% in Battleships.
What will happen is that MegaZyd can't physically be sourced any cheaper, anywhere, while Trit can be, so it will go down and be displaced by Highends. sç+(GèÖGûéGèÖG£û )
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Posted - 2015.06.04 20:05:54 -
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Volumes are a known quantity - let them double, triple down to cycle the anomalies even more frequently, if it's at all possible, and bring me even more decently-priced MegaZyd, because at the rate that I'm doing Entosis modules, I'll be out of Highends by the end of the current month.
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Posted - 2015.06.06 07:23:10 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Morphite has gone up a fair bit too, but there are reasons behind the price increases (read the thread).
Not sure if serious.
Ore anomaly volumes were reduced by 6 times on average - Morphite is going to be north of 20k p/u in the future. I picked a few hundred k for personal use at reasonable prices.
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Posted - 2015.06.06 22:30:30 -
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Tazinas2 wrote:GankYou wrote:Elizabeth Norn wrote:Morphite has gone up a fair bit too, but there are reasons behind the price increases (read the thread). Not sure if serious. Mercoxit Ore Anomaly volumes were reduced by 6 times on average - Morphite is going to be north of 20k p/u in the future. I picked a hundred k for personal use at reasonable prices. Just an observation--somebody put a sell order up of 500k units morphite for 14,999,999 p/u. With my skills this order alone costs 70 billion isk just in fees!
If it was/is indeed at 14.99 mil p/u, the order's worth is 7,499,999,500,000, even at broken fee of 0.1%, it would be 7,499,999,500.
This entity just wiped any profit it may have had, even if the Morphite was acquired at 4,500 ISK p/u levels - a loss 9 times greater than the projected profit.
Mostly likely a fat finger.
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Posted - 2015.06.07 11:09:17 -
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I just bought 5 mil of Zyd and 2.2 mil of Megacyte in a "Freeport" Sov nullsec station at 600 & 1050 ISK p/u.
Losing my marbles erryday.
Awoxed stash, of course - no such volumes are being mined or sold freely.
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Posted - 2015.06.21 11:21:08 -
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If any of you would fill those 1460 p/u sweet, sweet Zydrineh buy orders - it's nbd.
We'll understand.
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Posted - 2015.06.23 03:29:27 -
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Universal Megacyte price has been gently equalised with that of Zydrine in scope.
Regards,
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Posted - 2015.07.04 20:21:46 -
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I liquidated around 10 million units on the 29th at 1500-1525 - needed cash. Bought it all back already.
BTFD
https://updates.eveonline.com/date/2015-07-14/
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Posted - 2015.07.07 12:13:40 -
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Supplemental: http://i.imgur.com/n1xgtU8.png
Risk/Reward.
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