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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.03.20 14:49:23 -
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The Hecate and The Jackdaw join The Confessor and the Svipul as the Four Horseman of the OPacalypse.
Flee now, peasants.
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Kithrus
Tzedakah Aegis Militia
344
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Posted - 2015.03.20 14:53:13 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:The Hecate and The Jackdaw join The Confessor and the Svipul as the Four Horseman of the OPacalypse. Flee now, peasants.
Was hoping the jackdaw had more lows so I could make it a khan id wet dream but what can you do? |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
856
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Posted - 2015.03.20 14:54:55 -
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I hope the Caldari stays a missile boat! |
Arronicus
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:03:19 -
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6 mids 2 lows is harsh. 5/3 would be a much better layout for betting some speed, tank, and tackle on there. I guess 6 gives it room for tackle, tank, and 2 damage mods. At least the bonuses are decent, I like that it works AB or MWD. |
Mizhir
Matari Exodus
74136
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:08:03 -
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But the Hecate is going to be S I D E W A Y S
One Man Crew - Collective Solo PVP - Video is out!
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1218
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:11:07 -
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Supposed to be unveiling the look for them later today. It'll be interesting to see the base stats on these things.
7/6/2 seems a bit off for the Jackdaw. Was expecting a 7/5/3, flip of the Confessor. Expected the 7/4/4 for the Hecate.
Jackdaw drops in June with the Hecate slated for the expansion after that (not set in stone).
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Arla Sarain
355
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:23:38 -
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Saving the most OP for last. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:27:34 -
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Slackjaw?
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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2Sonas1Cup
50
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:33:03 -
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It looks the caldari is gonna be interesting.
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
623
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:36:40 -
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I can chase peasants on a mule with a pitchfork.
The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:39:13 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Slackjaw?
Jackdaw
And, while we're at it, Hecate
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Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
958
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:56:17 -
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Oh my god, they gave it missiles. Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? Ugh.
The Hecate though...my inner black metal teenager is pleased. |
Kithrus
Tzedakah Aegis Militia
344
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:12:24 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Supposed to be unveiling the look for them later today. It'll be interesting to see the base stats on these things.
7/6/2 seems a bit off for the Jackdaw. Was expecting a 7/5/3, flip of the Confessor. Expected the 7/4/4 for the Hecate.
Jackdaw drops in June with the Hecate slated for the expansion after that (not set in stone).
Pretty much this! As it stands (and I'm more then open for criticism) with the fitting tool in my head you fit it say ranged light missile and you put what into your lows? ballistic upgrade x2? Go rocket and brawl and you need a DCU and what? It just seems awkward to fit with two lows. |
Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:12:42 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Oh my god, they gave it missiles. Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? Ugh.
The Hecate though...my inner black metal teenager is pleased.
Well it was either go missiles for Caldari and Hybrids for Gallente or Hybrids for Caldari and Drones for Gallente.
It's not like they were going to give two of them the same weapon system. That'd just be silly.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6466
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:17:00 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:The Hecate and The Jackdaw join The Confessor and the Svipul as the Four Horseman of the OPacalypse. Flee now, peasants.
Well done play on a word there. I like that.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:17:25 -
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Kithrus wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:Supposed to be unveiling the look for them later today. It'll be interesting to see the base stats on these things.
7/6/2 seems a bit off for the Jackdaw. Was expecting a 7/5/3, flip of the Confessor. Expected the 7/4/4 for the Hecate.
Jackdaw drops in June with the Hecate slated for the expansion after that (not set in stone). Pretty much this! As it stands (and I'm more then open for criticism) with the fitting tool in my head you fit it say ranged light missile and you put what into your lows? ballistic upgrade x2? Go rocket and brawl and you need a DCU and what? It just seems awkward to fit with two lows.
Rockets, MSE II, 2x Invulns, 2x Shield boosters, Prop mod, DCU II, Power Diagnostic II, Loading accelerator rig and a shield rig.
If that fits, that's how I'd brawl in one.
EDIT: Derp, no point. Drop an invuln or a boost for a scram.
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Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
958
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:27:12 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Oh my god, they gave it missiles. Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? Ugh.
The Hecate though...my inner black metal teenager is pleased. Well it was either go missiles for Caldari and Hybrids for Gallente or Hybrids for Caldari and Drones for Gallente. It's not like they were going to give two of them the same weapon system. That'd just be silly. Catalyst+Cormorant, Corax+Talwar, Dragoon+Algos. That's actually the kind of pattern I was expecting again. Ah well, we'll see how they suit up, once we have the full details. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20600
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Posted - 2015.03.20 18:27:21 -
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Hecate... 33.3% bonus to armor AND hull resistances..
..aaaaaaand the nerf is already in the works.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1222
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Posted - 2015.03.20 19:43:27 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Hecate... 33.3% bonus to armor AND hull resistances..
..aaaaaaand the nerf is already in the works.
DCU II, 3 bulkheads, 3 transverse rigs.
Hull tank with ~75% omni resists. That'd be fun.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9118
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Posted - 2015.03.20 19:56:32 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Hecate... 33.3% bonus to armor AND hull resistances..
..aaaaaaand the nerf is already in the works. DCU II, 3 bulkheads, 3 transverse rigs. Hull tank with ~75% omni resists. That'd be fun. 4 mids...
Prop ,web,tackle and a cap booster ... My ishkurs looking a little nervous, this thing will be fantastic.
I wouldn't even need another ship to flip bears with, this even has room for the combat probes.
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and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Iain Cariaba
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:20:32 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Hecate... 33.3% bonus to armor AND hull resistances..
..aaaaaaand the nerf is already in the works. DCU II, 3 bulkheads, 3 transverse rigs. Hull tank with ~75% omni resists. That'd be fun. 4 mids... Prop ,web,tackle and a cap booster ... My ishkurs looking a little nervous, this thing will be fantastic. I wouldn't even need another ship to flip bears with, this even has room for the combat probes. I cannot wait. The tears wrung out by using this will be epic.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9120
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:57:12 -
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Can someone less mathematicaly challenged than myself run the numbers on dps for this thing with say, t2 blaster fit all V with two or three magstabs please?
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and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1226
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:07:46 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Can someone less mathematicaly challenged than myself run the numbers on dps for this thing with say, t2 blaster fit all V with two or three magstabs please?
T2 neutrons, 2 T2 mag stabs, and a T2 burst areator with CNAM gets it to 503dps before overheat, boosts, or implants. 3 mag stabs gets you up 548 dps.
EDIT: Eris gets the same RoF bonus, so theorycrafting is easy.
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Vic Jefferson
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
217
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:17:24 -
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At least the Hecate is not a drone boat.
Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM X
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
34987
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:29:39 -
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Interesting that the weapons bonuses are 5% damage and 5% ROF for the Jackdaw; as well as 5% ROF and 7.5% tracking speed for the Hecate.
Currently, the Confessor is 10% damage and 10% reduced activation cost; and the Svipul is 10% damage and 10% optimal.
Are we seeing signs of an early nerf coming to the Confessor and Svipul with these slightly reduced numbers for the Jackdaw and Hecate?
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1228
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Posted - 2015.03.20 21:33:21 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Interesting that the weapons bonuses are 5% damage and 5% ROF for the Jackdaw; as well as 5% ROF and 7.5% tracking speed for the Hecate.
Currently, the Confessor is 10% damage and 10% reduced activation cost; and the Svipul is 10% damage and 10% optimal.
Are we seeing signs of an early nerf coming to the Confessor and Svipul with these slightly reduced numbers for the Jackdaw and Hecate?
I wouldn't be surprised.
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Daemun Khanid
Sanctus Imperialis
66
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:46:52 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Interesting that the weapons bonuses are 5% damage and 5% ROF for the Jackdaw; as well as 5% ROF and 7.5% tracking speed for the Hecate.
Currently, the Confessor is 10% damage and 10% reduced activation cost; and the Svipul is 10% damage and 10% optimal.
Are we seeing signs of an early nerf coming to the Confessor and Svipul with these slightly reduced numbers for the Jackdaw and Hecate?
What your seeing is called "variety." Whats the point in making 4 different t3 dessies and giving them all exactly the same tactical options?
Someone mentioned that images may be released today as well. Did that ever happen?
Daemun of Khanid
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1232
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:53:34 -
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Daemun Khanid wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Interesting that the weapons bonuses are 5% damage and 5% ROF for the Jackdaw; as well as 5% ROF and 7.5% tracking speed for the Hecate.
Currently, the Confessor is 10% damage and 10% reduced activation cost; and the Svipul is 10% damage and 10% optimal.
Are we seeing signs of an early nerf coming to the Confessor and Svipul with these slightly reduced numbers for the Jackdaw and Hecate? What your seeing is called "variety." Whats the point in making 4 different t3 dessies and giving them all exactly the same tactical options? Someone mentioned that images may be released today as well. Did that ever happen?
Haven't seen them, and I cant find where I originally read that. So I must have been mistaken.
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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:55:08 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Interesting that the weapons bonuses are 5% damage and 5% ROF for the Jackdaw; as well as 5% ROF and 7.5% tracking speed for the Hecate.
Currently, the Confessor is 10% damage and 10% reduced activation cost; and the Svipul is 10% damage and 10% optimal.
Are we seeing signs of an early nerf coming to the Confessor and Svipul with these slightly reduced numbers for the Jackdaw and Hecate? or just a sign that hybrids are OP vs projectiles / lasers |
Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1320
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Posted - 2015.03.20 22:59:56 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Can someone less mathematicaly challenged than myself run the numbers on dps for this thing with say, t2 blaster fit all V with two or three magstabs please?
T2 neutrons, 2 T2 mag stabs, and a T2 burst areator with CNAM gets it to 503dps before overheat, boosts, or implants. 3 mag stabs gets you up 548 dps. EDIT: Eris gets the same RoF bonus, so theorycrafting is easy.
The Jackdaw will hit ~340 dps with rage rockets, quite a bit less but it does get to select damage types which will be quite handy. |
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