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Malenfant Storm
Caldari
DARK BR0THERHOOD
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Posted - 2006.10.19 23:04:00 -
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I just finished training my caldari cruiser skill to level 3 and I need to cose a ship to replace my trusty Cormorant. I mostly plan to use it for solo pve at the moment (mission running, ratting etc). As far as I can see the only two viable choices are the caracal or the moa.
Does anyone have any thoughts on the pros and cons of these two? As far as I can see I have a choice between survivability with the Moa and higher dps in the Caracal. Also what level of missions can I hope to take on in a suitably equipped cruiser? Any advice would be helpful.
Thanks in advance.
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vanBuskirk
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.19 23:14:00 -
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My opinion only - don't complain!
PvE ship for mission running - Caracal. No tracking issues, plus with half-decent missile skills you can get 40 km range - with light missiles. For most purposes, I'd fit a full rack of assault launchers - same damage on frigs as cruisers, and MUCH easier to fit, so you can tank better. Incidentally, use the ship's bonuses and load Bloodclaws. It's also faster, I think - good for looting afterwards.
I am assuming that your general skill level isn't all that high, so bear that in mind if I'm wrong. Also assuming that you don't want too much risk of ship loss, I would go for level 2 maximum with any cruiser. Maybe some of the easy level 3, but not the hard ones.
Just my 0.02 isk.
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6Bagheera9
Shadows of the Dead
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.20 01:06:00 -
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The Caracal is a long range missile cruiser and it fufills its role extremely well. Its only shortcoming is that it has a kinetic missile damage bonus (which is not that bad tbh) instead of a RoF bonus, otherwise it is damn near perfect.
The Moa can tank better and is a great frig/cruiser sniper in pvp, but its less versatile and take more SP to use effectively.
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HP Hatecraft
AWE Corporation
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.20 02:44:00 -
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 Originally by: 6Bagheera9
The Caracal is a long range missile cruiser and it fufills its role extremely well. Its only shortcoming is that it has a kinetic missile damage bonus (which is not that bad tbh) instead of a RoF bonus, otherwise it is damn near perfect.
The Moa can tank better and is a great frig/cruiser sniper in pvp, but its less versatile and take more SP to use effectively.
That pretty much sums it up... I would say you should think caracal short term, and moa long term. JMHO tho. Really though, if you know you like missles better than turrets or vice-versa than go with what you enjoy. Think about where you want you char to be at 12m sp... That will probably help you choose. Do you want to PVP a lot or PVE a lot? PVE? Missles without question. PVP? Rails. Missles will still work in PVP, but you will find yourself wishing you had that nice insa-dmg.
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Malenfant Storm
Caldari
DARK BR0THERHOOD
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Posted - 2006.10.20 09:29:00 -
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Great thanks guys Caracal it is then :), my missile skills aren't that great at the moment but I don't have that much time to play in the next couple of weeks so I can use that time to upgrade. What skills should I be looking at getting to use it most effectively?
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.10.20 10:10:00 -
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Caracal is easier to fit and fly, but the Moa can take more punishment and do more overall damage.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.20 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Malenfant Storm
Great thanks guys Caracal it is then :), my missile skills aren't that great at the moment but I don't have that much time to play in the next couple of weeks so I can use that time to upgrade. What skills should I be looking at getting to use it most effectively?
http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/skillsaccessories/skills/missiles/default.asp
All the supporting skills + heavy missiles. 3s at least, aim for 4s in the longer term. 5 in heavy missiles is reserved for if you're planning to cruiser specialise.
I'd second the recommendation for Caracal. Moa's a good ship, but not nearly as user friendly. Turrets and missile skills are needed to do 'effective' damage with it, as well as ... well turrets are just a bit harder to use than fire and forget missiles.
Caracal's a great PvE ship. I'd recommend looking to passive tank it (large shield extender, 2 hardeners). It's not all that hot at PvP, but it's no slouch either.
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Waut
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.20 12:02:00 -
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Moa's high slot layout is a bit broken imo. Caracal is much easier to train
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