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Varik Xavier Alcoholocaust. Test Alliance Please Ignore 3	Posted - 2015.03.24 04:35:45 - [1] - Quote Some of the Amarr ships look very dated and ugly. Seeing the great work that has been done to ships such as the maller, here are my picks for renovation Omen and it's variants such as the Zealot -More renovated, weight-balanced, and symmetrical look, with inspiration from the confessor. Not in shape, but sophistication. The harbinger -This ship looks like it was meant to be a fighter, with the wings etc. It is very thin, and the centralized engines in the back look disproportional to the front. It doesn't look like a battle-cruiser. The tormentor -This one looks very dated. Armageddon -Renovations similar to those done to the Raven and Scorpion. The ship is iconic, it just needs some visual love. Abaddon -Renovations in the same light as above. Perhaps also the executioner. Less round, primitive shapes, more of the detail that the maller or moa has recieved. My 2 isk.
Mr Mac Dark Goliath 33	Posted - 2015.03.24 06:36:41 - [2] - Quote Geddon is beatiful ship. I love this hull
Lucine Delacourt The Covenant of Blood 159	Posted - 2015.03.24 06:43:10 - [3] - Quote The Tormentor is great the way it is. Smiling death upon your enemies.
Ashlar Vellum 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 166	Posted - 2015.03.24 08:14:57 - [4] - Quote Get your grabby paws off my amarr hulls. And making every ship in the game symmetrical is boring. Also confessor is fugly.
Niobe Song Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 57	Posted - 2015.03.24 09:31:03 - [5] - Quote Omen doesn't bother me but I would imagine they will eventually balance it as they seem to be against asymmetry these days and a lot of players hate it. Harbinger needs to be complete redone. I kind of like the Tormentor but I also wouldn't mind if they made some changes. Arbitrator needs a total revamp. I agree with your other comments. Some of the iconic ships (Prophecy, Armageddon, Abaddon) need to basically stay the same but need a graphical clear up. Though issues with ship detail may be fixed a bit with the V++ update whenever that is.
Yoreth Thinka Nuwa Foundation Fraternity. 0	Posted - 2015.03.24 10:09:22 - [6] - Quote go back to the old apoc then we can talk
Niobe Song Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 58	Posted - 2015.03.24 10:27:36 - [7] - Quote No thanks. The new one is way better.
Ravasta Helugo Republic University Minmatar Republic 329	Posted - 2015.03.24 15:05:44 - [8] - Quote Geddon needs a new skin. Badly.
Fredfredbug4 Eve Defence Force The Kadeshi 2381	Posted - 2015.03.24 21:26:17 - [9] - Quote Well, many of the Amarrian designs have been in use for 300+ years. Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Bastion Arzi Ministry of War Amarr Empire 213	Posted - 2015.03.24 23:02:06 - [10] - Quote Yoreth Thinka wrote: go back to the old apoc then we can talk utter madness. the new skin is gorgeous

Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE 994	Posted - 2015.03.24 23:12:27 - [11] - Quote geddon is lovely, the only thing I can see that might need a touch up is the bottom middle bit, that looks delicate and out of place, and just a bit off. beef up the hull's mid section a bit. Other hulls I mostly like, abaddon might need a little polish pass as the gold effect just seems a bit off on it, but w/e @ChainsawPlankto
Kaiserin Schlacht The Rat In The Pot 4	Posted - 2015.03.25 01:21:27 - [12] - Quote Has every EVE player some kind of diagnosis? Must every ship be symmetrical?
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 9155	Posted - 2015.03.25 01:33:37 - [13] - Quote no one mentioned the punisher's snagle tooth, damn thing needs braces. its kind of cute though "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Garnoo Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation 150	Posted - 2015.03.25 11:00:50 - [14] - Quote but take a look on the gorgeus anathema... mayby a curse too... also half-a-bestower (aeon) isnt bad... People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back --á EvE
Major Xadi Green Skull LLC 44	Posted - 2015.03.25 11:10:28 - [15] - Quote Bastion Arzi wrote: Yoreth Thinka wrote: go back to the old apoc then we can talk utter madness. the new skin is gorgeous I think you guys missed what Yoreh was saying. I believe he meant the new Apoc is just fine. If you want to talk updating, lets go back to the old Apoc, then we can talk. I
Arthur Aihaken Narada 4214	Posted - 2015.03.25 11:16:03 - [16] - Quote What's wrong with the Amarr ships? I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Ashlar Vellum 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 167	Posted - 2015.03.25 13:14:27 - [17] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: What's wrong with the Amarr ships? Too many cyan lites and t2 lasers look similar to t1.
Agondray Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces 266	Posted - 2015.03.25 14:18:16 - [18] - Quote Ravasta Helugo wrote: Geddon needs a new skin. Badly. fly a bhaalgorn, problem solved The amarr navy is considered high tech because of the lasers, but by lore it is an aging navy as it is a nation that got complacent with its forces since only 2 things have every bested them in the military 1. being the Jove when the amarr rose up against them. 2. they matari fleets of the Thukker Tribe until the Empress decimated an entire fleet with 1 shot from her super weapon. "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Tiddle Jr Galvanized Inc. 85	Posted - 2015.03.26 04:49:15 - [19] - Quote Redundant post with same redundant thoughts. Try harder.
Kagura Nikon Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness 2028	Posted - 2015.03.26 10:16:22 - [20] - Quote Chainsaw Plankton wrote: geddon is lovely, the only thing I can see that might need a touch up is the bottom middle bit, that looks delicate and out of place, and just a bit off. beef up the hull's mid section a bit. Other hulls I mostly like, abaddon might need a little polish pass as the gold effect just seems a bit off on it, but w/e Now that the geddon is a drone boat, it coudl get a bit fatter. I cannot see where it stores all those drones. Altough at end I still think the mistake was to make the geddon a drone boat (should have been the abaddon on my eyes) "If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!" For the rest hire PoH \| Recruitment

Kagura Nikon Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness 2054	Posted - 2015.03.26 10:17:43 - [21] - Quote Agondray wrote: Ravasta Helugo wrote: Geddon needs a new skin. Badly. fly a bhaalgorn, problem solved The amarr navy is considered high tech because of the lasers, but by lore it is an aging navy as it is a nation that got complacent with its forces since only 2 things have every bested them in the military 1. being the Jove when the amarr rose up against them. 2. they matari fleets of the Thukker Tribe until the Empress decimated an entire fleet with 1 shot from her super weapon. A weapon they do not posses anymore, while the thukkers still have that nasty tech of naglfars that can jump into cyno jammed systems, including yulai (that makes them a hellish powerful force) "If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!" For the rest hire PoH \| Recruitment
Varik Xavier Alcoholocaust. Test Alliance Please Ignore 9	Posted - 2015.04.14 05:35:03 - [22] - Quote Ashlar Vellum wrote: Arthur Aihaken wrote: What's wrong with the Amarr ships? Too many cyan lites and t2 lasers look similar to t1. I agree. When they updated guns they flipped the color scheme of the lights around between T1 and T2 lasers. It's kind of annoying, as the other weapons were left the same.
To mare Advanced Technology 400	Posted - 2015.04.14 09:15:18 - [23] - Quote i really don't understand this "my spaceship must be symmetrical" thing, amarr ships are some of the best looking ships atm they don't really need a redesign especially if it`s for the worse like they did on the apoc. if you follow the logic on a armor tanking ship you want less complicated bits (confessor) and stuff on the outside because they just gonna get blowed up on the first hit, sturdy plates (geddon, prophecy, punisher, etc) make much more sense.
Hakaari Inkuran State War Academy Caldari State 221	Posted - 2015.04.14 12:48:57 - [24] - Quote Apoc was vastly improved and its only issue is its just too large. Should be scaled 10 percent down. New skins are badly needed for many ships. Amarr ships just being some.
Speedkermit Damo Demonic Retribution The Initiative. 425	Posted - 2015.04.14 16:37:25 - [25] - Quote Varik Xavier wrote: Some of the Amarr ships look very dated and ugly. Seeing the great work that has been done to ships such as the maller, here are my picks for renovation Omen and it's variants such as the Zealot -More renovated, weight-balanced, and symmetrical look, with inspiration from the confessor. Not in shape, but sophistication. The harbinger -This ship looks like it was meant to be a fighter, with the wings etc. It is very thin, and the centralized engines in the back look disproportional to the front. It doesn't look like a battle-cruiser. The tormentor -This one looks very dated. Armageddon -Renovations similar to those done to the Raven and Scorpion. The ship is iconic, it just needs some visual love. Abaddon -Renovations in the same light as above. Perhaps also the executioner and slicer. Less round, primitive shapes, more of the detail that the maller or moa has recieved. My 2 isk. You leave my Slicer well alone matey. Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.
13kr1d1 Hedion University Amarr Empire 93	Posted - 2015.04.15 16:59:51 - [26] - Quote Varik Xavier wrote: Some of the Amarr ships look very dated and ugly. Seeing the great work that has been done to ships such as the maller, here are my picks for renovation Omen and it's variants such as the Zealot -More renovated, weight-balanced, and symmetrical look, with inspiration from the confessor. Not in shape, but sophistication. The harbinger -This ship looks like it was meant to be a fighter, with the wings etc. It is very thin, and the centralized engines in the back look disproportional to the front. It doesn't look like a battle-cruiser. The tormentor -This one looks very dated. Armageddon -Renovations similar to those done to the Raven and Scorpion. The ship is iconic, it just needs some visual love. Abaddon -Renovations in the same light as above. Perhaps also the executioner and slicer. Less round, primitive shapes, more of the detail that the maller or moa has recieved. My 2 isk. Whats wrong with these ships? I loved all the old ships. Incursus is take it or leave it, but Exequror and tristan were amazing in their old models. So was Moa. I loved the old maller, and if you will notice, the confessor shares similarities to all these new ship models being crapped out by CCP: they have these long spindly pylon things sticking out and paddles, and/or they look like frisbees (blackbird, orthrus). The old ship designs all had racially based architecture, from smooth and streamlined (amarr) , to lumpy/curvy and asymmetrical (gallente), to blocky and utilitarian (caldari), and finally spindly, pylons, narrow yet rectangular (minmatar). They've started flushing all the uniqueness of ship designs into some homogenized half-assed copypasta models. Maybe they're not paying their art department enough. Maybe they fired the old team. Maybe a higher up is pushing for bad ship models. Do those models look good? Sure. Do they take away from the flavor of EvE? Definitely. They look like free domain spaceship artwork you can find anywhere on the web instead of being the old models that were definitely inspired designs. To mare wrote: i really don't understand this "my spaceship must be symmetrical" thing, amarr ships are some of the best looking ships atm they don't really need a redesign especially if it`s for the worse like they did on the apoc. if you follow the logic on a armor tanking ship you want less complicated bits (confessor) and stuff on the outside because they just gonna get blowed up on the first hit, sturdy plates (geddon, prophecy, punisher, etc) make much more sense. Simple minds like simple designs. At 5 drones of T2, the Tristan is nearly as powerful as the Algos, with a cheaper price tag, better maneuverability and speed, and smaller sig radius to avoid the lazy carebearish T3 station blapping -10s who have no life. Pick tristan for FW.
Reislier 102	Posted - 2015.04.16 00:42:12 - [27] - Quote need more camouflage skins.. is better than cloaking.. then can have afk camo ships. Be nice. If nice not work, be civil. If civil not work, beat with iron pipe till bloody and still.
RavenPaine raven alliance 985	Posted - 2015.04.16 01:18:52 - [28] - Quote Reislier wrote: need more camouflage skins.. is better than cloaking.. then can have afk camo ships. The camo thing always bugged me... As soon as I find a forest in space though, I might understand better. Still looking
Tyberius Franklin Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1389	Posted - 2015.04.16 01:55:01 - [29] - Quote RavenPaine wrote: Reislier wrote: need more camouflage skins.. is better than cloaking.. then can have afk camo ships. The camo thing always bugged me... As soon as I find a forest in space though, I might understand better. Still looking Camo thing never bugged me as it seemed more like organizational recognition rather than trying to be functional. For instance green camo is a Fed Navy thing, not a hiding in space thing.
Wolf Crownn Choking Vines Bombers Without Borders 0	Posted - 2015.04.16 06:15:50 - [30] - Quote To me, a lot of ships are ugly, few are nice, many grow on you. I think all ships should be left the way they are. They are creative and each have their own looks to each their owners. If you don't like how a ship looks, deal with it or just don't fly it so you don't have to look at it.

Hakaari Inkuran State War Academy Caldari State 223	Posted - 2015.04.16 20:34:38 - [31] - Quote Wolf Crownn wrote: To me, a lot of ships are ugly, few are nice, many grow on you. I think all ships should be left the way they are. They are creative and each have their own looks to each their owners. If you don't like how a ship looks, deal with it or just don't fly it so you don't have to look at it. Unfortunately for your philosophy some game companies like to have A a cohesive aesthetic and B modern graphical quality. This means old things need to be updated so they dont stick out when compared next to new things.
Tyberius Franklin Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1389	Posted - 2015.04.16 22:28:53 - [32] - Quote 13kr1d1 wrote: Whats wrong with these ships? I loved all the old ships. Incursus is take it or leave it, but Exequror and tristan were amazing in their old models. So was Moa. I loved the old maller, and if you will notice, the confessor shares similarities to all these new ship models being crapped out by CCP: they have these long spindly pylon things sticking out and paddles, and/or they look like frisbees (blackbird, orthrus). The old ship designs all had racially based architecture, from smooth and streamlined (amarr) , to lumpy/curvy and asymmetrical (gallente), to blocky and utilitarian (caldari), and finally spindly, pylons, narrow yet rectangular (minmatar). They've started flushing all the uniqueness of ship designs into some homogenized half-assed copypasta models. Maybe they're not paying their art department enough. Maybe they fired the old team. Maybe a higher up is pushing for bad ship models. Do those models look good? Sure. Do they take away from the flavor of EvE? Definitely. They look like free domain spaceship artwork you can find anywhere on the web instead of being the old models that were definitely inspired designs... ...Simple minds like simple designs. Asymmetry is not simple. Exequeror - Apparently wings jutting off in random directions was a clever and sophisticated design. Tristan - Didn't even change much, became no more symmetrical than it was Moa - Now you are just being silly. It didn't even fit the Caldari motif of utilitarian design. Limp neck and weak wings connecting important looking parts of the ship aren't typically know for their enhancement to function. Also the racial distinction is still extremely strong IMHO. Amarr has ornate plated armor in a way no other race has. Caldari actually looks more utilitarian rather than simply not caring about exterior design. Gallente is just old Gallente cleaned up abit for the most part, though I'm on the fence about some of the details on the Exequror. If anything Minmatar has changed the most with ships like the Stabber departing from the look of having the minimal viable construction holding it together, so I suppose we can grant that.
13kr1d1 Hedion University Amarr Empire 94	Posted - 2015.04.18 00:27:56 - [33] - Quote Hakaari Inkuran wrote: Wolf Crownn wrote: To me, a lot of ships are ugly, few are nice, many grow on you. I think all ships should be left the way they are. They are creative and each have their own looks to each their owners. If you don't like how a ship looks, deal with it or just don't fly it so you don't have to look at it. Unfortunately for your philosophy some game companies like to have A a cohesive aesthetic and B modern graphical quality. This means old things need to be updated so they dont stick out when compared next to new things. Why is that a bad thing? Stick out because you had good ideas and the game succeeded to this day based on those ideas. Why flush em to "look like everyone else"? Also, the tristan lost its elegance and became fugly with those side bulges that were added to it, and the loss of the smaller side wing. At 5 drones of T2, the Tristan is nearly as powerful as the Algos, with a cheaper price tag, better maneuverability and speed, and smaller sig radius to avoid the lazy carebearish T3 station blapping -10s who have no life. Pick tristan for FW.
Hakaari Inkuran State War Academy Caldari State 223	Posted - 2015.04.18 09:45:06 - [34] - Quote 13kr1d1 wrote: Hakaari Inkuran wrote: Wolf Crownn wrote: To me, a lot of ships are ugly, few are nice, many grow on you. I think all ships should be left the way they are. They are creative and each have their own looks to each their owners. If you don't like how a ship looks, deal with it or just don't fly it so you don't have to look at it. Unfortunately for your philosophy some game companies like to have A a cohesive aesthetic and B modern graphical quality. This means old things need to be updated so they dont stick out when compared next to new things. Why is that a bad thing? Stick out because you had good ideas and the game succeeded to this day based on those ideas. Why flush em to "look like everyone else"? Also, the tristan lost its elegance and became fugly with those side bulges that were added to it, and the loss of the smaller side wing. There is in no way such a thing as 'looking like everything else' when it comes to any ship in this game. Don't be absurd.
Nam Dnilb Universal Frog 238	Posted - 2015.04.18 18:21:21 - [35] - Quote Varik Xavier wrote: My 2 isk. Yep, at the very least you are gauging the value of your opinion correctly.
Daerrol Furtherance. 112	Posted - 2015.04.18 19:04:46 - [36] - Quote I will unsub if you make my Omen Navy and Omen Khador less sexy. I swear I will. however, release a Blood Raider omen? Yes. Then I will spend more money on this game. Also Sarum Punisher... murr.
Rioghal Morgan Synthetic Army 86	Posted - 2015.04.19 01:53:33 - [37] - Quote You leave my Slicer alone! She's perfect just the way she is. Most of the other ships you listed are fine as far as I'm concerned. Omen, Tormentor, Executioner are all great looking ships.


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