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raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 479	Posted - 2015.03.24 07:22:57 - [1] - Quote Back in April 2012 CCP announced at Fanfest a partnership with Nvidia to bring us capsuleers the opportunity to acquire video cards with PLEX. It wasn't supposed to be a one time offer and there was even an interview given by the EVE Online Executive Producer at the time where he stated Jon Lander wrote: It was an interesting experiment and one weGÇÖre going to follow up, as it was more successful than I was hoping, thereGÇÖs obviously quite an appetite out there to doing this sort of thing. WeGÇÖre certainly hoping for EVE merchandise. We need to just look at what the right opportunities are now. WeGÇÖve got lots of people beavering away trying to work out what the right thing to do is. Look no further Mr Lander! The right opportunty is here! With the upcoming EVE Valkyrie simulator EVE Online capsuleers will find themselves in need to acquire a PC compatible VR HMD in order to join the fun. That's why I think this would be the perfect time for CCP to partner with a PC compatible VR HMD manufacturer (Oculus/Samsung/HTC) and make us a PLEX for VR HMD offer! If you guys share this point of view please like this post and comment in this thread showing your support! Maybe we can get CCP's attention and be rewarded with the PLEX for VR HMD offer! CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Anthar Thebess 974	Posted - 2015.03.24 07:35:47 - [2] - Quote Sorry but no. This will lead just to immense , i really mean IMMENSE RMT. It is bad idea to buy some RL stuff for ingame stuff. Think how many players will buy plexes off the ingame market , just to sell this VR on e-bay. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
minumin Corellian Trading Corporation 3	Posted - 2015.03.24 08:19:18 - [3] - Quote yes please :)
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 482	Posted - 2015.03.24 09:04:02 - [4] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: Sorry but no. This will lead just to immense , i really mean IMMENSE RMT. I don't know if you read the last PLEX deal terms but they are explicit in the page I linked: CCP Manifest wrote: Below are the terms of condition for this offer: The offered product is the NVIDIA Geforce GTX 560 video card. Any active paying EVE Online account may purchase this offer. Only one purchase per account of this offer. Offer is non-refundable. Offer Price is 20 PLEX. Shipping and handling is included in the offer price. The offer is available to EVE Online account holders on Tranquility worldwide. The offer is limited to 100 cards, and will be sold on a first come, first served basis. Offer void where prohibited by applicable law. Some jurisdictions may treat this as a taxable prize or award. Purchaser is solely responsible for determining the tax consequences, if any, associated with this offer. CCP-¦s decision on any sale is final. Some of lines like number of items per account, plex unit price per offer and unit stock prevent "immense RMT" from happening. Anthar Thebess wrote: It is bad idea to buy some RL stuff for ingame stuff. CCP clearly doesn't share your point of view on that. Anthar Thebess wrote: Think how many players will buy plexes off the ingame market , just to sell this VR on e-bay. So what? Just like I'm sure many did back then with the Nvidia cards. It's their call what they do to the goods once they get them. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Anthar Thebess 976	Posted - 2015.03.24 09:16:31 - [5] - Quote 1. Buy 4000 plexes off the market. = 4000 * 20euro = 80.000 euro of estimated value 2. Make 50 accounts and manage to buy 50 headsets. 3. I put 50 VR headsets on ebay , CCP overpriced them and i need to reduce price of those VR to sell it on ebay - so i get only 50.000 euro from those sales. Clean , sanctioned RMT. At any step i did nothing against the rules. 1 headset for account. ISK was clean , farmed by renters. I just made 50.000 euro just for having bunch or renters. Now i don't need renters - there are many players that speculate on the plex prices and they have few thousand plexes stocked up. Easy way to cash out - don't you think. The best part - you can still play eve and make more isk to stock up plexes for the next cashout. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 482	Posted - 2015.03.24 09:49:10 - [6] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: 1. Buy 4000 plexes off the market. = 4000 * 20euro = 80.000 euro of estimated value To buy 4000 Plexes off the market at their current isk price (~800mil) you'd need to be sitting on 3.2 trillion isk, which pardon my arrogance, I have my doubts you are. Anthar Thebess wrote: 2. Make 50 accounts and manage to buy 50 headsets. I doubt CCP would send 50 headsets to one address alone, but If that wasn't stated in the terms and conditons I also don't see why they shouldn't. Anthar Thebess wrote: 3. I put 50 VR headsets on ebay , CCP overpriced them and i need to reduce price of those VR to sell it on ebay - so i get only 50.000 euro from those sales. I feel your pain. Anthar Thebess wrote: Clean , sanctioned RMT. RMT stands for "Real Money Trade". This PLEX offer rewards the capsuleers with items, not money. Anthar Thebess wrote: At any step i did nothing against the rules. 1 headset for account. ISK was clean , farmed by renters. I just made 50.000 euro just for having bunch or renters. Now i don't need renters - there are many players that speculate on the plex prices and they have few thousand plexes stocked up. Easy way to cash out - don't you think. The best part - you can still play eve and make more isk to stock up plexes for the next cashout. Maybe CCP should leave you out of this offer since you seem to be willing to spoil it for everyone else by acquring a large number of items. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Mister Tazinas Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.03.24 09:51:48 - [7] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: Sorry but no. This will lead just to immense , i really mean IMMENSE RMT. It is bad idea to buy some RL stuff for ingame stuff. Think how many players will buy plexes off the ingame market , just to sell this VR on e-bay. There already is "IMMENSE RMT" in Eve. That is why they had to go as far as making it a two strike policy now. Sadly, it goes to solve nothing. RMT still happens on a huge scale, and CCP goes without making money from it. If they were smart... they would open their OWN sanctioned auction house of sorts that would allow players to buy/sell items at a cost (say 15% of total sale value). Plex value may drop, but in the long run I believe CCP would make much more money. They would also be able to verify that the PLEX, or cards used, weren't stolen.
Anthar Thebess 976	Posted - 2015.03.24 09:54:44 - [8] - Quote raven666wings wrote: [quote=Anthar Thebess]To buy 4000 Plexes off the market at their current isk price (~800mil) you'd need to be sitting on 3.2 trillion isk, which pardon my arrogance, I have my doubts you are. What doubts? There are currently many players that have few thousand plexes stocked up. This 3.2 trillion is nothing for big alliances, especially that have renters. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 10924	Posted - 2015.03.24 09:57:05 - [9] - Quote The thing about PLEX is that..... It's generated by RL currency. Unless CCP gives it away. If the market is depleted of PLEX, someone has to buy PLEX to restock the market. So I really don't know what everyone's complaining about. You can go farm 10s of thousands of $ worth of ISK. Just make sure you put all that PLEX you brought in a shuttle. For safety reasons, of course.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 482	Posted - 2015.03.24 10:03:45 - [10] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: What doubts? There are currently many players that have few thousand plexes stocked up. And your point is? If CCP doesn't limit the ammount of items one single person can receive I don't see why they shouldn't use them if they want. Anthar Thebess wrote: This 3.2 trillion is nothing for big alliances, especially that have renters. If the CEO of the alliance's Executor could get away with wasting the alliance fund on himself, props to him CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Godfrey Silvarna Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light 403	Posted - 2015.03.24 10:09:01 - [11] - Quote I like this idea. This would likely be an excellent PLEX sink. I believe the video card event was motivated by the desire to take some PLEX away from those who have stockpiled hundreds or thousands, so there would be a smaller risk of one of them crashing the market just for ***** and giggles. This should archieve the same effect, and these plex stockpilers existing is a good reason in favour of this idea, not against it. I'd buy one.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 482	Posted - 2015.03.24 23:25:09 - [12] - Quote Bumping it to the front page. Let's make this happen guys, show your support to the PLEX for VR HMD initiative! CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Ticondrius Void Regulation 19	Posted - 2015.03.25 00:30:35 - [13] - Quote I would buy one of the upcoming modern VRHMDs with PLEX. Then again, I know how to make about 20-25% over what I invest in the EVE markets...
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 8105	Posted - 2015.03.25 01:17:24 - [14] - Quote If CCP wants this VR thing to be successful, what the OP is suggesting is exactly what they should be doing. They'll get all kinds of write-ups in the gaming press ( you take free advertising where you can) and maybe in the mainstream press as well. On top of that there'll be a bunch of people making nice threads on day one of the release as they will not need to wait for the few brave souls to go out and pay cash for HMDs just to beta test a new game. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 484	Posted - 2015.03.25 10:16:50 - [15] - Quote ^^ That's a good point Mr Epeen, It will be a good way to advertise both EVE Valkyrie and EVE Online. I'm sure it will gather the interest of a lot of people who will come try the game and probably subscribe their accounts, enticed by the possibility of acquiring VR headsets with in-game currency. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Anthar Thebess 977	Posted - 2015.03.25 10:46:12 - [16] - Quote CCP should not endorse any kind of RMT. If you want VR - why you wont just buy it? Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Ferni Ka'Nviiou Republic University Minmatar Republic 11076	Posted - 2015.03.25 10:55:12 - [17] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: CCP should not endorse any kind of RMT. PLEX =/= RMT
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5237	Posted - 2015.03.25 11:07:57 - [18] - Quote Ferni Ka'Nviiou wrote: Anthar Thebess wrote: CCP should not endorse any kind of RMT. PLEX =/= RMT The ability to convert PLEX back into cash or out of game items is RMT. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
TigerXtrm Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 1052	Posted - 2015.03.25 11:09:32 - [19] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: 1. Buy 4000 plexes off the market. = 4000 * 20euro = 80.000 euro of estimated value 2. Make 50 accounts and manage to buy 50 headsets. 3. I put 50 VR headsets on ebay , CCP overpriced them and i need to reduce price of those VR to sell it on ebay - so i get only 50.000 euro from those sales. Clean , sanctioned RMT. At any step i did nothing against the rules. 1 headset for account. ISK was clean , farmed by renters. I just made 50.000 euro just for having bunch or renters. Now i don't need renters - there are many players that speculate on the plex prices and they have few thousand plexes stocked up. Easy way to cash out - don't you think. The best part - you can still play eve and make more isk to stock up plexes for the next cashout. Make accounts have to be more than two months old to participate, announce it 1,5 month in advance, solves that entire problem right there. Also you really think CCP doesn't know what account is an alt of whom? Change the offer to 'one per player' and it solves every issue you could think of. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! My Website - Blogs, Livestreams & Forums
Steijn Quay Industries 661	Posted - 2015.03.25 11:13:47 - [20] - Quote doesnt really matter wether you buy 1 headset via PLEX or 500. If you then sell even 1 headset, its RMT.
Sarmatiko 1680	Posted - 2015.03.25 11:14:59 - [21] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: 1. Buy 4000 plexes off the market. = 4000 * 20euro = 80.000 euro of estimated value 2. Make 50 accounts and manage to buy 50 headsets. ..in one minute like those 100 Nvidia cards.
Anthar Thebess 977	Posted - 2015.03.25 11:16:41 - [22] - Quote Steijn wrote: doesnt really matter wether you buy 1 headset via PLEX or 500. If you then sell even 1 headset, its RMT. How CCP can check it, or endorse it? If some item belongs to me i have full right to do it whatever i want. Good luck for CCP legal department trying to ban someone for selling those VR heads. National laws are above CCP rules. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Anthar Thebess 977	Posted - 2015.03.25 11:18:25 - [23] - Quote Sarmatiko wrote: Anthar Thebess wrote: 1. Buy 4000 plexes off the market. = 4000 * 20euro = 80.000 euro of estimated value 2. Make 50 accounts and manage to buy 50 headsets. ..in one minute like those 100 Nvidia cards. Because you cannot prepare and make a script that will do it for you. People are creative. Ps. Why no sisi diff for so long time made public. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Steijn Quay Industries 662	Posted - 2015.03.25 11:18:41 - [24] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: Steijn wrote: doesnt really matter wether you buy 1 headset via PLEX or 500. If you then sell even 1 headset, its RMT. How CCP can check it, or endorse it? If some item belongs to me i have full right to do it whatever i want. Good luck for CCP legal department trying to ban someone for selling those VR heads. National laws are above CCP rules. i never said they would endorse it, but you cant hide the fact that if you did sell it, it IS RMT.
Anthar Thebess 977	Posted - 2015.03.25 11:21:49 - [25] - Quote TigerXtrm wrote: Make accounts have to be more than two months old to participate, announce it 1,5 month in advance, solves that entire problem right there. Also you really think CCP doesn't know what account is an alt of whom? Change the offer to 'one per player' and it solves every issue you could think of. I will make 50 buddy accounts and wait for new promotion ... next year. No cost, except that my main account will have 50 months of subscription. Invest 50 plexes to reopen them is minor issue when i could cash out thousand of euro. PS. http://evewho.com/corp/health+clinic THIS IS one man corp. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Sarmatiko 1680	Posted - 2015.03.25 11:24:07 - [26] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: Because you cannot prepare and make a script that will do it for you. Well good luck with that. We could also add fantasy things like 50 different VPN's and 50 different delivery addresses, right?
Anthar Thebess 977	Posted - 2015.03.25 11:43:49 - [27] - Quote Sarmatiko wrote: Anthar Thebess wrote: Because you cannot prepare and make a script that will do it for you. Well good luck with that. We could also add fantasy things like 50 different VPN's and 50 different delivery addresses, right? Why it was account based , not user based. Ok so let say that you don't want to do any scripts ,etc. Lets assume that ccp puts 250 VR headers that can be bought using PLEX. Ask yourself how many people just buy them to sell them on ebay - yes i would do it - why not? This is simple opening totally new door to RMT. Many people will start to buy and stack up plexes only to make cash out at some point. From time to time you will see similar topics : Plex for #######. CCP in new patch you introduced new graphics for ###### can we have Plex for graphic card ###### ? ( that is worth 2k euro) No CCP will not do this kind of event every month , but in order to maintain program Plex for ###### CCP will need to do it from time to time. If you really want Plex for ###### let it not be some unrelated RL stuff that can be sold out , but new EVE based Gear, USB hub in the form of Archon , or other similar items. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Semidurr Pancerne Poziomki YARRR and CO 4	Posted - 2015.03.25 13:30:22 - [28] - Quote I have to agree with Anthar Thebess on this one. What this suggestion of yours would do is legalize and promote RMT on unprecedented scale and probably lead to hiperinflation as PLEX prices would skyrocket overnight.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 484	Posted - 2015.03.25 22:26:20 - [29] - Quote ^^Thanks for your input on the thread guys. There are a lot of "IMMENSE RMT" and apocalyptic end-of-the-world prophecies written above, but to appease some of these fears I will quote again the terms and conditions of the last PLEX for NVIDIA card offer done by CCP, these time in bold writing so people don't miss them: CCP Manifest wrote: Below are the terms of condition for this offer: The offered product is the NVIDIA Geforce GTX 560 video card. Any active paying EVE Online account may purchase this offer. Only one purchase per account of this offer. Offer is non-refundable. Offer Price is 20 PLEX. Shipping and handling is included in the offer price. The offer is available to EVE Online account holders on Tranquility worldwide. The offer is limited to 100 cards, and will be sold on a first come, first served basis. Offer void where prohibited by applicable law. Some jurisdictions may treat this as a taxable prize or award. Purchaser is solely responsible for determining the tax consequences, if any, associated with this offer. CCP-¦s decision on any sale is final. If a VR HMD would be offered this time I think the Offer Price would need to be changed to maybe 40 PLEX since the VR HMD's are considerably more expensive than the NVIDIA card offered at the time (probably double the price). Now I understand this was an experiment and CCP wanted to learn what challenges could arise from it. Executive Producer Jon Lander stated the results were good and they intended to follow up, so I would like to hear from CCP on what are their plans for this type of offer. Also for the people interested in it, don't stop posting and showing your support! We can make it happen! CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Anthar Thebess 978	Posted - 2015.03.26 10:22:21 - [30] - Quote Reasonable VR headset starts around 2000 $ Quite nice payout for 100-120 plexes. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
2Sonas1Cup 53	Posted - 2015.03.26 11:09:53 - [31] - Quote Oh man if we could get stuff like video cards etc for PLEXs, the PLEXs would sky rocket in price, literally Wish they would though :)
Anthar Thebess 978	Posted - 2015.03.26 11:45:04 - [32] - Quote 2Sonas1Cup wrote: Oh man if we could get stuff like video cards etc for PLEXs, the PLEXs would sky rocket in price, literally Wish they would though :) At this point there is a grate danger to eve. "Ok guys need to play a bit , as my wife wants new TV. " Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 4133	Posted - 2015.03.26 12:41:49 - [33] - Quote I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. The Rules: 22. Posting regarding RMT (Real Money Trading) is prohibited. Posts discussing, linking to, or advertising RMT, including but not limited to the sale of in game items, assets, currency, characters or game accounts for real life money are strictly prohibited. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Primary This Rifter 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 759	Posted - 2015.03.26 13:05:09 - [34] - Quote Why does there need to be another PLEX sink? The price of PLEX is has been very stable for the past several months, especially since the input broadcasting ban was announced. If CCP were to announce such a program that price would go through the roof Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.
Lykouleon Trust Doesn't Rust Triumvirate. 1521	Posted - 2015.03.26 15:04:57 - [35] - Quote Probably should have pointed that out to CCP Unifex before he moved on from CCP. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 8117	Posted - 2015.03.26 16:13:08 - [36] - Quote Primary This Rifter wrote: Why does there need to be another PLEX sink? The price of PLEX is has been very stable for the past several months, especially since the input broadcasting ban was announced. If CCP were to announce such a program that price would go through the roof What the OP is talking about is a promotion. There would be a blip in prices temporarily like happened in the video card promotion. Find something legit to get worked up over. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
sabre906 Old Spice Syndicate Intrepid Crossing 1686	Posted - 2015.03.26 20:08:34 - [37] - Quote No. It's basically channeling subscription money that could otherwise go to CCP, to Nvidia, while decreasing the number of characters in game. Both harms Eve. The player base has only so much appetite in buying plex, it's not an unlimited resource. We don't need to send money to Nvidia and give graphics cards to rl poor eve rich no lifers, to the detriment of CCP, Eve, and everyone else.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 484	Posted - 2015.03.26 23:18:18 - [38] - Quote sabre906 wrote: No. It's basically channeling subscription money that could otherwise go to CCP, to Nvidia, while decreasing the number of characters in game. Both harms Eve. The player base has only so much appetite in buying plex, it's not an unlimited resource. We don't need to send money to Nvidia and give graphics cards to rl poor eve rich no lifers, to the detriment of CCP, Eve, and everyone else. This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? The name says it all. You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money? Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Anthar Thebess 983	Posted - 2015.03.27 07:42:35 - [39] - Quote raven666wings wrote: sabre906 wrote: No. It's basically channeling subscription money that could otherwise go to CCP, to Nvidia, while decreasing the number of characters in game. Both harms Eve. The player base has only so much appetite in buying plex, it's not an unlimited resource. We don't need to send money to Nvidia and give graphics cards to rl poor eve rich no lifers, to the detriment of CCP, Eve, and everyone else. This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money? The partnership with the headset manufacturer makes them dirtcheap to CCP and the ammount spent will be a pittance compared to the revenue gained with the event. Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP. Sorry but what kind of promotion is Plex for VR. No one from outside of the game will have no use in it. - Because he will not have plexes to do it. - Creating account in eve , just to buy plexes ( from CCP ) ... just to buy VR will not happen. It will be cheaper just to buy VR itself. - The only people that actually will buy those VR sets will be players that accumulated plexes via some kind of ISK grind. So we are going to talk about exchanging ISK for RL item. Also like someone pointed out - cash that was made by CCP will go elsewhere. Remember that NO ONE will buy plexes from CCP just to buy VR ( it will be cheaper to buy one from the market). All plexes used for this operation will be bought from market using isk. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Steijn Quay Industries 662	Posted - 2015.03.27 08:42:43 - [40] - Quote ISD Ezwal wrote: I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. The Rules: 22. Posting regarding RMT (Real Money Trading) is prohibited. Posts discussing, linking to, or advertising RMT, including but not limited to the sale of in game items, assets, currency, characters or game accounts for real life money are strictly prohibited. if you were actually going by rule 22, you should have removed the whole thread not just individual posts.
Anthar Thebess 983	Posted - 2015.03.27 09:05:38 - [41] - Quote Steijn wrote: if you were actually going by rule 22, you should have removed the whole thread not just individual posts. Actually this thread is good. Look at this this way. Plex for VR is bad. ISK for RL item that in most cases will be sold then on Ebay. Plex prises rise without while any thing important is gained by CCP. Plex for "Rifter usb Hub" is kind of good idea. This will be still ISK for RL item , but in this case most of the money still stay in CCP. Yes plex prices will raise , but this could lead to more people buying plex - so still more $ generated from this game - so more $ also for development. People will gain RL item, but item that is heavily connected to EVE world, and simply you cannot sale one on ebay counting on big payout. We cannot compare 2000 euro worth VR to 20-30 euro priced usb hub , that CCP bought from manufacturer for less than 3 euro ;) Plex currently is way over speculated. People that bought tons of it agreed to keep its price well above 800mil - as this allows them to not loose isk. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 4140	Posted - 2015.03.27 10:29:18 - [42] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: All plexes used for this operation will be bought from market using isk. And all those PLEXes bought on the market for Isk were originally bought from CCP for real life money by players and then put on the market for Isk. That said, I have removed a rule breaking post and the one quoting it. The Rules: 12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited. The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a support ticket under the Community & Forums Category. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Anthar Thebess 983	Posted - 2015.03.27 11:38:27 - [43] - Quote ISD Ezwal wrote: Anthar Thebess wrote: All plexes used for this operation will be bought from market using isk. And all those PLEXes bought on the market for Isk were originally bought from CCP for real life money by players and then put on the market for Isk. That said, I have removed a rule breaking post and the one quoting it. The Rules: 12. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited. The discussion of EVE Online forum moderation actions generally leads to flaming, trolling and baiting of our ISD CCL moderators. As such, this type of discussion is strictly prohibited under the forum rules. If you have questions regarding the actions of a moderator, please file a support ticket under the Community & Forums Category. Agree. My point is simple : In order for CCP to be "safe" value of plexes must be higher than item value. Why ? Because plex depending on country cost different amount. Lets just compare price of plex in USA, EU , Russia. This leads us to simple conclusion it will be cheaper to buy item off the market , rather than buy enough plexes from CCP and then buy item. Lets also not forget us that CCP do not produce VR. So CCP will need to use RL currency to buy items for this promotion - so all $ that some people invested in game because of this operation will leave CCP wallet. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 491	Posted - 2015.03.28 03:17:06 - [44] - Quote ^^ This fellow is either trying to derail the thread or has a really low IQ/high reading comprehension deficit. I'd like to think it's the first one but right now I'm more inclined to the second. In any case I don't wanna get some sort of brain cancer so I'm going to refrain from countering his rants and l'll let ISD's do their job. To the people interested in the offer, don't stop posting and showing your support! Let's show CCP we want this to happen! CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE 999	Posted - 2015.03.28 04:58:32 - [45] - Quote when they did the GFX card for plex I don't remember plex spiking too much. then again I think the sale was rather limited and sold out much faster than CCP anticipated. also I'm not sure that it will cause plex to spike too much, if I remember right there was a rather large premium between plex dollar value and gfx card dollar value. easier for me to make $ irl and buy a headset than trade plex. meh even if plex does spike @ChainsawPlankto
Antonia Iskarius Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 31	Posted - 2015.03.28 05:32:54 - [46] - Quote Yes please. Using Plex to buy a VR headset to zoom around and dogfight with would remove a lot of the salty taste in my mouth from the (super)carrier nerfs. If I can't delegate fighters in Eve i can at least pilot them myself in Valkyrie :)
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1647	Posted - 2015.03.28 06:04:52 - [47] - Quote ISD Ezwal wrote: Anthar Thebess wrote: All plexes used for this operation will be bought from market using isk. And all those PLEXes bought on the market for Isk were originally bought from CCP for real life money by players and then put on the market for Isk. It still ends up with less total money for CCP because they have to pay for those VR set one way or another. I'm pretty sure there is still a better profit margin in allowing an account to log-in tot he game for a month for a PLEX for CCP than trading the income of a few PLEX for something they have to acquire first. This sounds more like a "I grinded way too much ISK and want to get RL stuff out of it" than anything else.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 3431	Posted - 2015.03.28 07:43:05 - [48] - Quote Meh. Just be one of the first 5 guys who delivers a canister of "Titan Black Prototype" to Godel Ring station in Ededleen and you'll earn a Titan Black in RL. "Titan Black Prototype" are a rare good available in unlimited supply at a undisclosed starport. The Greater Fool Bar_ is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! _
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 495	Posted - 2015.03.29 09:16:24 - [49] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: ISD Ezwal wrote: Anthar Thebess wrote: All plexes used for this operation will be bought from market using isk. And all those PLEXes bought on the market for Isk were originally bought from CCP for real life money by players and then put on the market for Isk. It still ends up with less total money for CCP because they have to pay for those VR set one way or another. I'm pretty sure there is still a better profit margin in allowing an account to log-in tot he game for a month for a PLEX for CCP than trading the income of a few PLEX for something they have to acquire first. This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money? The partnership with the headset manufacturer makes them dirtcheap to CCP and the ammount spent will be a pittance compared to the revenue gained with the event. Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP. Frostys Virpio wrote: This sounds more like a "I grinded way too much ISK and want to get RL stuff out of it" than anything else. Really? It's funny you should write that because I'd swear yours and other nay-sayers posts sound like "Please CCP don't inflate the PLEX isk prices because I don't want to pay my sub with real money." Also, next time please make sure to write your full post in English so everyone can understand better what you write. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Anthar Thebess 987	Posted - 2015.03.30 10:09:13 - [50] - Quote There is no opportunity for CCP here. Like i stated before. In order to buy item for plex : 1. you need to have account in eve 2. you need to have enough isk to buy plexes ( it will be cheaper to buy item off the market rather plexes for it) 3. plex bought by other players and put to market will be bought by isk and used to buy VR, this will look like this : $ paid to buy plex ->CCP -> PLEX -> ISK -> PLEX -> CCP -> $ for VR supplier Just to summarize. There will be NO benefit for CCP, even more , this operation will cause loose of money for CCP. IT will just allow easy and safe payout while escalating plex prices at the same time. This more expensive plex will be only harmful for eve, as it will be only expensive, as people will stack it up for next big promotion. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 499	Posted - 2015.03.30 10:28:26 - [51] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: Just to summarize. There will be NO benefit for CCP, even more , this operation will cause loose of money for CCP. IT will just allow easy and safe payout while escalating plex prices at the same time. This more expensive plex will be only harmful for eve, as it will be only expensive, as people will stack it up for next big promotion. This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money? The partnership with the headset manufacturer makes them dirtcheap to CCP and the ammount spent will be a pittance compared to the revenue gained with the event. Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Anthar Thebess 988	Posted - 2015.03.30 11:08:43 - [52] - Quote raven666wings wrote: Anthar Thebess wrote: Just to summarize. There will be NO benefit for CCP, even more , this operation will cause loose of money for CCP. IT will just allow easy and safe payout while escalating plex prices at the same time. This more expensive plex will be only harmful for eve, as it will be only expensive, as people will stack it up for next big promotion. This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money? The partnership with the headset manufacturer makes them dirtcheap to CCP and the ammount spent will be a pittance compared to the revenue gained with the event. Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP. You still don't get it. Each plex is RL cash paid to CCP. CCP don't make VR head sets, so they need to buy VR using RL cash. Now each plex that lands on the market provide CCP with additional income, now each plex used to buy VR will mean no income for CCP. Plex prices will raise not because we have something new and meaningful in the game , but because some people will decide to speculate/stack out PLEX as it will have new added value : $CASHOUT$ Think about it. Good VR cost around 2000 $ or euro. Now in order to get discount you need waaay more than 100 , even then this will not be 90% discount but rather 10-15% Now lets assume that CCP makes this promotion, and it bring somehow new players (it can only target current subscribers) - what type of players it will attract : Group 1: I heard about " VR for in game currency". EVE is worth playing because of the game play or Group 2: I heard about "VR for in game currency". I want to play this game to buy myself RL game item that i can use or sell on ebay You want VR promotion from CCP? All accounts that will be active for at least 6 months at the end of the 2015 will have possibility to win one of the 5 VR headsets. Each active account increase the chance! THIS IS PROPER PROMOTION, not something that will allow big cashout. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 501	Posted - 2015.03.30 11:21:22 - [53] - Quote ^^ This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money? The partnership with the headset manufacturer makes them dirtcheap to CCP and the ammount spent will be a pittance compared to the revenue gained with the event. Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Anthar Thebess 988	Posted - 2015.03.30 12:28:42 - [54] - Quote raven666wings wrote: ^^ This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money? The partnership with the headset manufacturer makes them dirtcheap to CCP and the ammount spent will be a pittance compared to the revenue gained with the event. Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP. To the people interested in the offer, don't stop posting and showing your support! Let's show CCP we want this to happen! So you almost double posted. To the people not interested in the RMT offer, don't stop posting and showing your support! Let's show CCP we don't want RMT to happen! Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 502	Posted - 2015.03.30 12:48:56 - [55] - Quote You should consider taking a break from filling the thread with so much bs. ISD's got more to do that to come here every once in a while to clean your mess. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 4205	Posted - 2015.03.30 17:08:34 - [56] - Quote I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it. The Rules: 13. Spamming is prohibited. Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or nonsensical post that has no substance and is often designed to annoy other forum users. This can include the words GÇ£firstGÇ¥, GÇ£go back to (insert other game name)GÇ¥ and other such posts that contribute no value to forum discussion. Spamming also includes the posting of ASCII art within a forum post. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1650	Posted - 2015.03.30 17:30:38 - [57] - Quote raven666wings wrote: Anthar Thebess wrote: Just to summarize. There will be NO benefit for CCP, even more , this operation will cause loose of money for CCP. IT will just allow easy and safe payout while escalating plex prices at the same time. This more expensive plex will be only harmful for eve, as it will be only expensive, as people will stack it up for next big promotion. This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money? The partnership with the headset manufacturer makes them dirtcheap to CCP and the ammount spent will be a pittance compared to the revenue gained with the event. Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP. Why would you come play the game to get a headset if you can get it cheaper by just buying the damn thing? It will OBVIOUSLY cost more in PLEX worth of $$$ than straight up $$$ because if it does not then CCP will be pissing money away. Just to give you an example. The past offer was a GTX 560 for 20 (TWENTY) PLEX. At 15$ a PLEX, thats 300$ of PLEX for a card that launched at elast 8 month before this promo was created with a MSRP of 199$. No one will buy PLEX from CCP to get their VR set because once again, it will be cheaper to buy it off the shelves unless you somehow happen to have the PLEX on hands or the ISK to buy said PLEX. Anybody supposedly starting to play EVE to buy this will need months of grinding to amass the required wealth unless he hits a goldmine with a scam.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 502	Posted - 2015.03.31 03:33:50 - [58] - Quote Ok, seems like there are a couple of angry people here who do not want the PLEX for VR HMD offer to happen due to personal reasons. I'm not allowed to spam responses and I don't have the time to elaborate different ones, so If you want to read why this is a good opportunity both for the players and CCP, please refer to my first posts in the thread, as they respond to all the subsequent objections. Fortunately there are smart people working at CCP who can understand why these promotions are beneficial so I'm confident that another one will happen! We just have keep showing them we want it to! Keep up the support guys GÖÑ CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 504	Posted - 2015.04.02 14:55:45 - [59] - Quote Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Meh. Just be one of the first 5 guys who delivers a canister of "Titan Black Prototype" to Godel Ring station in Ededleen and you'll earn a Titan Black in RL. "Titan Black Prototype" are a rare good available in unlimited supply at a undisclosed starport. I didn't get your post at first but have just looked at the Elite Dangerous newsletter #68 and see what you were referring to Might go try and grab one if they're still there. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1658	Posted - 2015.04.02 15:35:40 - [60] - Quote raven666wings wrote: Ok, seems like there are a couple of angry people here who do not want the PLEX for VR HMD offer to happen due to personal reasons. I'm not allowed to spam responses and I don't have the time to elaborate different ones, so If you want to read why this is a good opportunity for both the players and CCP, please refer to my first posts in the thread, as they respond to all the subsequent objections. Fortunately there are smart people working at CCP who can understand why these promotions are beneficial so I'm confident that another one will happen. We just have to keep showing them we want it to! Keep up the support guys GÖÑ Translation : I think people who disagree with me are angry and since I cannot just spam my canned response that also happen to have been countered and I can't be bothered to form up anything else to support my point, I will try to handwave what they said.
Pok Nibin Filial Pariahs 676	Posted - 2015.04.03 00:12:25 - [61] - Quote Kind of makes you wish there was a customer support section to the forum. Nothing gratifies me more than to explain to people the transactions they might have made, or are considering...and without a fee! How providential! The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 504	Posted - 2015.04.04 10:09:03 - [62] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Translation : I think people who disagree with me are angry and since I cannot just spam my canned response that also happen to have been countered and I can't be bothered to form up anything else to support my point, I will try to handwave what they said. Go make a thread titled "Please don't make PLEX prices go up" and stop shitting this one up. PLEX for VR HMD Let's make it happen! Show your support by posting and liking the thread! We got this guys GÖÑ CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Eve Solecist Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 171	Posted - 2015.04.04 10:47:57 - [63] - Quote Hm. 20 Million PS4 owners, next to even more PC owners. Why exactly should they help you sidestep your inability to buy it yourself? Of course there are people who can't afford it for various reasons, but why in hell should they have one if they can not buy one? The argument of "promotes PLEX and the game" is crap. Valkyrie does not need this kind of promotion, as don't the VR sets. They are literally self promoting fountains of money. Besides, it would only attract more cheapskates who do not want to pay money but think they should have everything. No need for these. If you want something, achieve it. Hording PLEX to get one doesn't count as one, not even if you are a carebear who feeds his ego by shooting easy targets. "Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote. "AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
Eve Solecist Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 171	Posted - 2015.04.04 10:49:43 - [64] - Quote Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Meh. Just be one of the first 5 guys who delivers a canister of "Titan Black Prototype" to Godel Ring station in Ededleen and you'll earn a Titan Black in RL. "Titan Black Prototype" are a rare good available in unlimited supply at a undisclosed starport. ..... what??? "Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote. "AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 504	Posted - 2015.04.04 12:22:22 - [65] - Quote Are you still posting in this thread? What exactly are you trying to achieve with your rants here? CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
SKINE DMZ Stay Frosty. A Band Apart. 476	Posted - 2015.04.04 12:33:36 - [66] - Quote Some people here.. really don't understand marketing. IMO this would be a great thing, and fully support it if it does happen. I disagree RAWR IM TOUGH
Eve Solecist Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 171	Posted - 2015.04.04 13:01:19 - [67] - Quote SKINE DMZ wrote: Some people here.. really don't understand marketing. IMO this would be a great thing, and fully support it if it does happen. All you lot care about is your selfishness, greed and consumerism. "Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote. "AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
Eve Solecist Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 171	Posted - 2015.04.04 13:07:43 - [68] - Quote raven666wings wrote: I see you're still posting in this thread. What exactly are you trying to achieve with your rants here? It's not ranting when I tell you to not be such a cheapskate and instead EARN the things you want. Of course you are free to beg like you do, but the bullshit around it is hypocrisy. Yes, it's begging. You are a beggar. "Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote. "AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 507	Posted - 2015.04.04 13:11:24 - [69] - Quote Please do not vent your anger and frustration in this thread. Personal attacks have also no place here. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Eve Solecist Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 171	Posted - 2015.04.04 13:15:44 - [70] - Quote raven666wings wrote: Please do not vent your anger and frustration in this thread. Personal attacks have also no place here. It's no attack. You ARE begging. No amount of your hypocrisy can help you hide that. "Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote. "AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 507	Posted - 2015.04.04 13:26:48 - [71] - Quote Why don't you just tell us the real reason why you don't want this promotion to happen? CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Eve Solecist Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 171	Posted - 2015.04.04 13:31:38 - [72] - Quote raven666wings wrote: Why don't you just tell us the real reason why you don't want this promotion to happen? Not what I am talking about, as you can easily see in my previous posts. Your hypocrisy does not work. "Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote. "AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1251	Posted - 2015.04.04 13:51:42 - [73] - Quote The only issue I have with this is that is removes all new and longterm players who havent focused on obtaining 20 billion worth of isk from going after this promotion. Basically evebank, Iwantisk, eveninggamesclub turns into the primary candidates for buying one, if not all of the VR headsets to raffle off as they see fit. There's options for abuse now that these websites take in roughly 200 billion a day. Not to knock the concept, but it cannot be based solely on who has the most isk wins. An ingame events where the person who participates has a chance to win would be a better option. You can give away 20 of those headsets, run 20 ingame events, and have a good chunk of the server following the changes and taking a chance at winning. If you want to a plex sale, I would also consider ingame events in order to include the community, and not just a person who manages a website to siphon off isk from gambling, or who obtains tons of isk through renters. Yaay!!!!
Eve Solecist Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 172	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:04:30 - [74] - Quote I admit I could have written down the reasons why I believe you are begging. This really isn't anything personal, it's based on rationale and I can explain it. Not sure how to start. .) Sony will be promoting their headset heavily. They have billions and 20 Million PS4 users. .) The reach CCP has, compared to Sony's, is rediculously small. Let's take an unreasonably high guess how many would actually pay with PLEX for the headset and say it's 1000 players. Even assuming that the headset only costs 300, that would be 300.000 for a mere 1000 players. Now let's imagine a worst case and assume it's 5000 players. That would be 1.500.000 ... Hundreds of thousands are not a "drop in the bucket" ... ... for a relatively small company like CCP ... ... especially considering the fact how small CCP's audience is. Even if we assume Sony can give a 50% cut (HA...), that would still be 150.000 for a rediculously low amount of 1000 players. 1000 players compared to the millions who will be reached by Sony, not even talking about all the media out there who are hyping it to no end. .) Valkyrie will be a launch title and bundled with Sony's headset. This, plus the fact that it's the first AAA title for a headset, plus the fact that it's a headset, makes this thing a self promoter. Everyone is talking about it. Everyone who has tried it loves it. .) The only people such a "promotion" would attract, are those who want a headset, but are not willing or capable of affording one. These people will not shelve out even 15 bucks a month to play this game. At best, they would stay and play for free. The fact that PLEX are being paid by others does not matter here, because they do not add money to the system. They want to play for free. (that's fine, as many pay by PLEX, but it also kills your argument.) (There's no value in people joining with the aim of not paying at all.) I fully understand why you brought up a promotional value as argument, because it helps you support your point. Facts of the matter, though, do not support it. You should have thought this through first. TL;DR: CCP promoting it via giving out free headsets is a waste of money, because Sony can and will do a much better job. "Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote. "AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 507	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:26:57 - [75] - Quote ^^ That's a fairly large wall of text, but I think you must have missed the part in the OP where it's written "this would be the perfect time for CCP to partner with a PC compatible VR HMD manufacturer (Oculus/Samsung/HTC) and make us a PLEX for VR HMD offer!" so maybe you should reformulate your objection. The idea behind the promotion is not only to promote Valkyrie and offer players the opportunity to acquire PC VR headsets, but also to promote EVE Online and PLEX as a virtual currency that may be exchanged for real world goods. This was in CCP's vision in the past when they introduced the PLEX concept and was one of the reasons they made the initial PLEX for Nvidia card offer in 2012. There's even a video interview with CCP's CEO where he explains how he wishes one day EVE players will be able to use isk virtual currency to acquire real world goods and services. This is excellent marketing material for CCP and has the potential to bring in many subscribers to EVE Online. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Eve Solecist Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 176	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:40:49 - [76] - Quote raven666wings wrote: ^^ That's a fairly large wall of text, but I think you must have missed the part in the OP where it's written "this would be the perfect time for CCP to partner with a PC compatible VR HMD manufacturer (Oculus/Samsung/HTC) and make us a PLEX for VR HMD offer!" so maybe you should reformulate your objection. Gee, I did. Doesn't mean anything, though. We're still talking about hundreds of thousands for a relatively small audience, especially compared to Sony's. Quote: The idea behind the promotion is not only to promote Valkyrie and offer players the opportunity to acquire PC VR headsets, but also to promote EVE Online and PLEX as a virtual currency that may be exchanged for real world goods. This was in CCP's vision in the past when they introduced the PLEX concept and was one of the reasons they made the initial PLEX for Nvidia card offer in 2012. There's even a video interview with CCP's CEO where he explains how he wishes one day EVE players will be able to use isk virtual currency to acquire real world goods and services. Yeah ... so? How does any of this change anything about what I have written above? Nothing. It's a waste of CCP's money and promotes literally nothing Sony couldn't do a million times better. And they are doing it. Valkyrie will be bundled with the headset, the headset and Valkyrie are getting promoted by Sony, which means that Sony is also promoting EVE ONLINE automagically. It's a waste of CCP's money to do the same thing someone else can do much better and actually does it for free. You do not even care about the facts. You want CCP to waste their money so you get something for free. If someone talked CCP into doing such a promotion, I'd have to quesiton their marketing department and collective intelligence. There is no need for such a promotion, as those with more money and higher reach can and will promote the headset, Valkyrie and thus also EVE ONLINE much better than CCP ever could. I really can not make it any easier for you to understand. I can admit that this might be a failure on my part, but I do still wrongly expect people to think while they read. "Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote. "AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 508	Posted - 2015.04.04 14:58:27 - [77] - Quote Eve Solecist wrote: If someone talked CCP into doing such a promotion, I'd have to quesiton their marketingdepartment and collective intelligence. You know why you don't need to do that? Because the former Chief Marketing Officer "left" the company after making an exclusivity deal with Sony and trashing CCP's resources into a massive flop called Dust514 on PS3. We do not want the same thing to happen to Valkyrie. Eve Solecist wrote: I can admit that this might be a failure on my part, Well that's allright, acceptance is the first step. Like the old saying goes "There is No Blinder Man Than The One Who Refuses to See". CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
SKINE DMZ Stay Frosty. A Band Apart. 477	Posted - 2015.04.04 15:53:45 - [78] - Quote Eve Solecist wrote: SKINE DMZ wrote: Some people here.. really don't understand marketing. IMO this would be a great thing, and fully support it if it does happen. All you lot care about is your selfishness, greed and consumerism. Oh the irony is beautiful. I wouldn't even use it, it's just a great marketing ploy, many articles would be written about it. Something you obviously have no clue about. GL I disagree RAWR IM TOUGH
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 4273	Posted - 2015.04.04 16:05:50 - [79] - Quote I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited. Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated. 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited. Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 511	Posted - 2015.04.04 16:06:31 - [80] - Quote Phoenix Jones wrote: The only issue I have with this is that is removes all new and longterm players who havent focused on obtaining 20 billion worth of isk from going after this promotion. Basically evebank, Iwantisk, eveninggamesclub turns into the primary candidates for buying one, if not all of the VR headsets to raffle off as they see fit. There's options for abuse now that these websites take in tens to hundreds of billions a day. Not to knock the concept, but it cannot be based solely on who has the most isk wins. An ingame events where the person who participates has a chance to win would be a better option. You can give away 20 of those headsets, run 20 ingame events, and have a good chunk of the server following the changes and taking a chance at winning. If you want to a plex sale, I would also consider ingame events in order to include the community, and not just a person who manages a website to siphon off isk from gambling, or who obtains tons of isk through renters. I agree with your point of view. CCP should ration the item stock to make sure a single player or group doesn't get all the headsets offered and leave nothing for the others. But I also think both kinds of promotions could happen. The PLEX for VR HMD one would certainly sink some of the isk and PLEXes owned by those weatlhy people, they would need to buy more off the market to sub their accounts and would provide more isk to the people who buy them from CCP, fueling the PLEX sales and subscription count in return. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1252	Posted - 2015.04.04 18:03:09 - [81] - Quote raven666wings wrote: Phoenix Jones wrote: The only issue I have with this is that is removes all new and longterm players who havent focused on obtaining 20 billion worth of isk from going after this promotion. Basically evebank, Iwantisk, eveninggamesclub turns into the primary candidates for buying one, if not all of the VR headsets to raffle off as they see fit. There's options for abuse now that these websites take in tens to hundreds of billions a day. Not to knock the concept, but it cannot be based solely on who has the most isk wins. An ingame events where the person who participates has a chance to win would be a better option. You can give away 20 of those headsets, run 20 ingame events, and have a good chunk of the server following the changes and taking a chance at winning. If you want to a plex sale, I would also consider ingame events in order to include the community, and not just a person who manages a website to siphon off isk from gambling, or who obtains tons of isk through renters. I agree with your point of view. CCP should ration the item stock to make sure a single player or group doesn't get all the headsets offered and leave nothing for the others. But I also think both kinds of promotions could happen. The PLEX for VR HMD one would certainly sink some of the isk and PLEXes owned by those weatlhy people, they would need to buy more off the market to sub their accounts and would provide more isk to the people who buy them from CCP, fueling the PLEX sales and subscription count in return. Not objecting with the concept. It would be a good promotion to do. Yaay!!!!
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 511	Posted - 2015.04.04 18:15:28 - [82] - Quote Phoenix Jones wrote: Not objecting with the concept. It would be a good promotion to do. The one you're proposing is also interesting and like you said gives people that did not dedicate their game time exclusively to amassing isk the opportunity to win a headset too. Elite Dangerous has successfully being doing this type of event (Elite -ú10k race and now the 5 Nvidia GTX Titan Black canisters). CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 511	Posted - 2015.04.04 22:03:00 - [83] - Quote Imagine that like Solstice suggested CCP would parter with a manufacturer and get 5000 headsets with 50% off wholesale/partnership price (around $150 a unit). This would make a total expense of $750.000 to buy them. Now if they were to be offered at 40 PLEX each, a total of 200.000 PLEXes would need to be handed over, which at $15 a unit make a total of $3.000.000. "But CCP already has that income! Those PLEXes were already paid for, they don't need to subtract $750.000 off of it! " - you say. -That's true, but the question here is "Will it be worth doing so?" and the answer is "Yes", because those $750.000 and more will be cashed in when the people who sinked all those PLEXes go get more off the market, the sellers buy more from CCP and when the people that heard about the promotion subscribe their accounts and spend money on the EVE game's stores. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 511	Posted - 2015.04.11 13:19:58 - [84] - Quote Hope you guys haven't lost the appetite for the PLEX for VR HMD offer! I certainly haven't! CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate 862	Posted - 2015.04.11 13:56:50 - [85] - Quote Good morning. I don't care.
Prince Kobol 2484	Posted - 2015.04.11 15:19:29 - [86] - Quote Sorry I stopped as soon as I read Fanfest.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 971	Posted - 2015.04.11 18:22:37 - [87] - Quote I see some problems with this whole idea. 1) As others already said, this will have serious implications on the PLEX market. The price will skyrocket and people who sub with PLEX for ISK because they can't afford it otherwise will have to quit. Instead of subscriptions, the PLEX money will now leave CCP and go to the manufacturer of the hardware. So they have less subscribers at the cost of less money. Pretty stupid deal if you ask me. 2) If there is a way to actually get stuff out of the system by beeing able to convert $ to PLEX to ISK to PLEX to STUFF to $ and not just one way, you create a system that would probably go as a real currency and is subject to tax law. There was a PLEX for Pizza thread some time ago where this was discussed at length. Not sure if that also applies if its only small amounts like with the graphics cards. the Code ALWAYS wins
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1682	Posted - 2015.04.11 19:02:11 - [88] - Quote Dude 1 : Hey dude 2, I'll give you 100$ if you buy me that headset with your space bux. Dude 2 : Ok Congratulation, you just created a way to monetize ISK.
Eve Solecist Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1542	Posted - 2015.04.12 00:01:30 - [89] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: ... beeing ... GOON SPY CONFIRMED!!! ... I apologise. I have spent way too much time on reddit, reading up on the BRAVE COUPCOUNTERCOUPWAITOGOBOIS! I will shame myself and leave now. :) This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others .... "I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon Ron Gilbert made me cry.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 511	Posted - 2015.04.12 14:09:09 - [90] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: 1) As others already said, this will have serious implications on the PLEX market. "Serious implications" as in you and your code griefer buddies not being able to have so many alts for free? Well time to loosen up the purses strings honey. Do something useful for CCP and chip in some $ if you wanna keep scaring their new costumers away. Ima Wreckyou wrote: The price will skyrocket and people who sub with PLEX for ISK because they can't afford it otherwise will have to quit. Nah you won't quit, you'll just have less alts plexed. Ima Wreckyou wrote: Instead of subscriptions, the PLEX money will now leave CCP and go to the manufacturer of the hardware. As I expalined before, this is a good investment that will have its return and profit. Ima Wreckyou wrote: So they have less subscribers at the cost of less money. Pretty stupid deal if you ask me. No, they will have more subscribers and less alt accounts plexed, which I believe is a good thing for the sandbox and the community in general. Ima Wreckyou wrote: 2) If there is a way to actually get stuff out of the system by beeing able to convert $ to PLEX to ISK to PLEX to STUFF to $ and not just one way, you create a system that would probably go as a real currency and is subject to tax law. There was a PLEX for Pizza thread some time ago where this was discussed at length. Not sure if that also applies if its only small amounts like with the graphics cards. This is a one time promotion offers players the opportunity to acquire real world items with virtual currency, and not the other way around. For legal effects some jurisdictions may treat this as a taxable prize or award and the purchaser is solely responsible for determining the tax consequences, if any, associated with this offer. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Anthar Thebess 1003	Posted - 2015.04.13 07:42:21 - [91] - Quote Again no? Plex for VR? No problem : 1. CCP buys 50 VR headsets. 2. Create a lottery : up to 2 tickets per account , each ticket 1 plex. 3. After 2 months simple draw ( only for still active accounts ) , and winers get VR headsets. This is lottery , hard to abuse in terms of RMT. Plex prices will raise , more people will buy them from CCP . There is BIG possibility that CCP will earn more $ than VR headsets are worth. 1 VR ~ 100 plexes so 5000 tickets need to be sold in order to cover CCP expenses. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 518	Posted - 2015.04.13 14:06:20 - [92] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: Again no? Plex for VR? No problem : 1. CCP buys 50 VR headsets. 2. Create a lottery : up to 2 tickets per account , each ticket 1 plex. 3. After 2 months simple draw ( only for still active accounts ) , and winers get VR headsets. Snip Please refrain from discussing RMT. ISD Ezwal Plex prices will raise , more people will buy them from CCP . There is BIG possibility that CCP will earn more $ than VR headsets are worth. 1 VR ~ 100 plexes so 5000 tickets need to be sold in order to cover CCP expenses. I don't see nothing wrong with your idea, except for the fact that you'd probably be the only player it would appeal to. I doubt anyone else would be dumb enough to trade 1 or 2 PLEXes for a 1 in 100/1 in 50 chance to win a headset. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Anthar Thebess 1005	Posted - 2015.04.14 08:58:24 - [93] - Quote raven666wings wrote: Anthar Thebess wrote: Again no? Plex for VR? No problem : 1. CCP buys 50 VR headsets. 2. Create a lottery : up to 2 tickets per account , each ticket 1 plex. 3. After 2 months simple draw ( only for still active accounts ) , and winers get VR headsets. Snip Please refrain from discussing RMT. ISD Ezwal Plex prices will raise , more people will buy them from CCP . There is BIG possibility that CCP will earn more $ than VR headsets are worth. 1 VR ~ 100 plexes so 5000 tickets need to be sold in order to cover CCP expenses. I don't see nothing wrong with your idea, except for the fact that you'd probably be the only player it would appeal to. I doubt anyone else would be dumb enough to trade 1 or 2 PLEXes for a 1 in 100/1 in 50 chance to win a headset. Apart from promoting EVE, PLEX and VR the point behind the PLEX for VR HMD promotion is to give all capsuleers the opportunity to acquire headsets, not randomly reward only 50 of them. Actually this will be like 1/100.000 Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 518	Posted - 2015.04.14 10:35:51 - [94] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: Actually this will be like 1/100.000 See what I mean? He can't even do basic math, let alone elaborate a proper idea for a PLEX for VR HMD promotion. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 519	Posted - 2015.04.20 20:20:00 - [95] - Quote Bumping it to the front page of GD! Don't forget to like, share and post in the thread guyz! With enough community support CCP will make this happen! CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Anthar Thebess 1008	Posted - 2015.04.20 23:02:00 - [96] - Quote Fight against RMT abuse. Say no to buying expensive RL stuff using Plex. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Ragori Mitternacht Forsaken Industrial Empire The Southern Syndicate 9	Posted - 2015.04.20 23:43:09 - [97] - Quote From what I can see and have read it sounds like a great idea but at the same time this is something that looks great in thought but has the potential to be something else when in effect. Ok so you want people to use plex to buy stuff for real world yeah that would be awesome and it is a chance for someone like me who has very little real world money a chance to get in on the new tech. oh and to the goon going on about plexing alts not all of us can afford to pay for multiple accounts that is why I love eve because I can still play even though I don't have lots of cash to spend. Now yes I am sure some will say I am bashing here no I am just pointing out that not all of us players are rich or have lots of money or have a great job. I know I won't be getting any new system or console hell my little comp I have right now is barely functioning at times because I don't have the money to put into getting a new one or upgrading this one. So the chances of my getting into the VR and such is even less. so yeah go ahead and have fun about how much money you can blow while others like me sit here and get left behind. Because I know that since I only have my little two dinky accounts one I pay for in real world cash and the other I plex I will never get a chance at winning one of those VR headsets or spending lots of real world $ to get the plex for it. So fine go ahead and screw up the plex market and justify it saying that it is just cheap people who plex and it will make ccp more money yeah it would but it would also drive out players like me who can't do that. So fine go ahead and turn CCP into another World of Warcraft.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 521	Posted - 2015.04.21 22:43:57 - [98] - Quote Ragori Mitternacht wrote: From what I can see and have read it sounds like a great idea but at the same time this is something that looks great in thought but has the potential to be something else when in effect. I see your point and yes there's definitely a degree of risk associated with the offer that CCP tried to assess on the first one. In the worst case scenario it could happen that the PLEX isk price would be inflated but the sellers would not buy back as many from CCP and not that many new players would sub new accounts and spend so much money on the NES store as initially expected. But marketing the product in a game company like this (which is not such a small time one as some people might make you believe) is always a risky investment. Take a look at CCP's last year's gross profit and marketing expenses on the 2014 financial statements sheet, page 5. Yes! It reads USD $33.3 million gross profit and USD $6.9 million marketing expense! That's right! CCP spent in 2014 6.9 million dollars on promotional video productions and advertisements (if you look at previous year's statements like 2012 you'll see an expense of up to 12.5 mil). And they didn't know beforehand how many of the people that actually watched them on Youtube or or Twitch or Google Ads or somewhere else would actually come play the game and give them some return. There can have market studies done but the risk is there. I think the promotion cost would be reasonable and fit in the marketing expenses budget for 2015 even if they spent like $0.75 mil on acquiring 5000 headsets like proposed before. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 521	Posted - 2015.04.21 22:47:14 - [99] - Quote Ragori Mitternacht wrote: Because I know that since I only have my little two dinky accounts one I pay for in real world cash and the other I plex I will never get a chance at winning one of those VR headsets or spending lots of real world $ to get the plex for it. So fine go ahead and screw up the plex market and justify it saying that it is just cheap people who plex and it will make ccp more money yeah it would but it would also drive out players like me who can't do that. So fine go ahead and turn CCP into another World of Warcraft. There are currently in-game ways to obtain large ammounts of isk. You can make a PLEX worth (currently $800 mil) in a couple hours. You'll just have to step up your game to figure them out to get your PLEX easier. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 20857	Posted - 2015.04.21 23:03:30 - [100] - Quote Amount* ... and ... well, I can't blame you for being selfish. I mean...... you're at least trying !! It now feels silly to judge you for being greedy ... ... considering you honestly try to achieve something ! That's a gazillion times more than absolutely most other do ! And you're not ****- or hate-posting either ..... ..... like way too many others do ! I honestly wish you good luck! :) Jokarz > you got owned? Chris Justice > just a bit Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death. Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails PERVS doing lowsec DD
Primary This Rifter 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 791	Posted - 2015.04.22 08:04:07 - [101] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: raven666wings wrote: Anthar Thebess wrote: Just to summarize. There will be NO benefit for CCP, even more , this operation will cause loose of money for CCP. IT will just allow easy and safe payout while escalating plex prices at the same time. This more expensive plex will be only harmful for eve, as it will be only expensive, as people will stack it up for next big promotion. This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money? The partnership with the headset manufacturer makes them dirtcheap to CCP and the ammount spent will be a pittance compared to the revenue gained with the event. Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP. Why would you come play the game to get a headset if you can get it cheaper by just buying the damn thing? It will OBVIOUSLY cost more in PLEX worth of $$$ than straight up $$$ because if it does not then CCP will be pissing money away. Just to give you an example. The past offer was a GTX 560 for 20 (TWENTY) PLEX. At 15$ a PLEX, that's 300$ of PLEX for a card that launched at least 8 month before this promo was created with a MSRP of 199$. No one will buy PLEX from CCP to get their VR set because once again, it will be cheaper to buy it off the shelves unless you somehow happen to have the PLEX on hands or the ISK to buy said PLEX. Anybody supposedly starting to play EVE to buy this will need months of grinding to amass the required wealth unless he hits a goldmine with a scam. Well... people are buying the OR DK2 on Amazon for $600+ when you can just buy it directly from Oculus for $300. People with money don't know how to shop.
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 20905	Posted - 2015.04.23 16:17:20 - [102] - Quote I am totally not posting here to get rid of all these locked threads on the front page. I just wanted to wave nicely at ISD Ezwal! waves nicely with a bright smile on her face (: Jokarz > you got owned? Chris Justice > just a bit Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death. Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails PERVS doing lowsec DD
Rabid Disconnection Inner Shadow Did he say Jump 24	Posted - 2015.04.24 00:49:48 - [103] - Quote This would obviously be used for RMT.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 8377	Posted - 2015.04.24 03:45:18 - [104] - Quote Solecist Project wrote: I am totally not posting here to get rid of all these locked threads on the front page. I just wanted to wave nicely at ISD Ezwal! waves nicely with a bright smile on her face (: And I'm totally not posting here just to say I miss you. shyly waves from the back of the room Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 20925	Posted - 2015.04.24 07:52:10 - [105] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: Solecist Project wrote: I am totally not posting here to get rid of all these locked threads on the front page. I just wanted to wave nicely at ISD Ezwal! waves nicely with a bright smile on her face (: And I'm totally not posting here just to say I miss you. shyly waves from the back of the room Mr Epeen Awwwwww but why would you? I'm here! ^_^ Jokarz > you got owned? Chris Justice > just a bit Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death. Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails PERVS doing lowsec DD
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 522	Posted - 2015.05.02 19:46:15 - [106] - Quote Thanks a lot for all you guy's inputs on the thread, showing CCP that there is community appetite for this offer. I hope they will do the right thing and make it happen. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Solecist Project Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 23043	Posted - 2015.05.02 19:50:17 - [107] - Quote Hey there! Nice to see you haven't given up! :) DOES YELLING ANNOY YOU ? LIKE MY IDEA BELOW AND I WILL REMOVE IT !! Corpses4Drifters CLICK THE LINK !! YOU LIKE THE IDEA !! FOR EVEN MORE PLAYER DRIVEN CONTENT !!
Anthar Thebess 1014	Posted - 2015.05.03 19:20:09 - [108] - Quote Not only him. NO FOR LEGALIZED RMT! Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 522	Posted - 2015.05.12 17:30:10 - [109] - Quote To all you guys crying about the possible PLEX isk price inflation with this promotion, take a look at how much it inflated with the PLEX for GOOD program (that actually sinks much more PLEX than a PLEX for item event does). It merely went up 60 million isk, it's currently at ~870 mil and probably will not go over 900 mil. The market stock shrinked a bit but it will grow back soon enough and the price will go down again. Like Mr Epeen said before, find something legit to get worked up over. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Miami Jones Virtual Industry Inc. 3	Posted - 2015.05.12 18:10:54 - [110] - Quote raven666wings wrote: sabre906 wrote: No. It's basically channeling subscription money that could otherwise go to CCP, to Nvidia, while decreasing the number of characters in game. Both harms Eve. The player base has only so much appetite in buying plex, it's not an unlimited resource. We don't need to send money to Nvidia and give graphics cards to rl poor eve rich no lifers, to the detriment of CCP, Eve, and everyone else. This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money? The partnership with the headset manufacturer makes them dirtcheap to CCP and the ammount spent will be a pittance compared to the revenue gained with the event. Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP. I don't think this guy understands how the market works. PLEX prices go up, people purchase plex with rl money and sell on the eve market. The increase in PLEX price would only last so long. I believe there were 300 something GPUs from nvidia that were sold and the blip in plex prices barely lasted a day if that. To say to create an PLEX sink would decrease the number of accounts in eve is a really stupid thing to say. There are no down sides to this proposal.
Anuri Suaraj Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2015.05.12 18:56:59 - [111] - Quote Miami Jones wrote: raven666wings wrote: sabre906 wrote: No. It's basically channeling subscription money that could otherwise go to CCP, to Nvidia, while decreasing the number of characters in game. Both harms Eve. The player base has only so much appetite in buying plex, it's not an unlimited resource. We don't need to send money to Nvidia and give graphics cards to rl poor eve rich no lifers, to the detriment of CCP, Eve, and everyone else. This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money? The partnership with the headset manufacturer makes them dirtcheap to CCP and the ammount spent will be a pittance compared to the revenue gained with the event. Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP. I don't think this guy understands how the market works. PLEX prices go up, people purchase plex with rl money and sell on the eve market. The increase in PLEX price would only last so long. I believe there were 300 something GPUs from nvidia that were sold and the blip in plex prices barely lasted a day if that. To say to create an PLEX sink would decrease the number of accounts in eve is a really stupid thing to say. There are no down sides to this proposal. New player here. Been playing a few hours here and there for about a month now. Mostly exploration. And I'm just about 100 mill shy of getting my first Plex. Honestly, if it's that easy for me to make a Plex on my own, I can only imagine how much ISK and Plex some of the better veteran or corporate-backed players have stockpiled. I think some people should be satisfied with the fact that CCP so generously allows them to play the game for free instead of getting super greedy and trying to score RL items with a wad of virtual cash. My humble opinion is that in general CCP has the ISK faucet opened up a bit too much in EVE, which has now led to certain people developing maniacal schemes. To all the "economists" in the house... PLEX is basically an IOU from CCP that they can now cash in straight away since it can't really be used outside of the game. On the other hand, if you could use PLEX to buy things outside of the game, then CCP couldn't cash in that IOU straight away and would have to wait and see whether or not you (or the person that eventually gets the PLEX by whatever means) would use the PLEX for game time or for that VR thingy. I don't think CCP should allow that, and I doubt that they ever will, since I'm guessing they don't like handing their hard earned money out to other companies. To me personally, this whole thread just sounds like a bunch of ungrateful Plex hoarding vets want to take advantage of CCP's generosity. I do not approve.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 522	Posted - 2015.05.12 19:15:04 - [112] - Quote Anuri Suaraj wrote: To all the "economists" in the house... PLEX is basically an IOU from CCP that they can now cash in straight away since it can't really be used outside of the game. On the other hand, if you could use PLEX to buy things outside of the game, then CCP couldn't cash in that IOU straight away and would have to wait and see whether or not you (or the person that eventually gets the PLEX by whatever means) would use the PLEX for game time or for that VR thingy. I don't think CCP should allow that, and I doubt that they ever will, since I'm guessing they don't like handing their hard earned money out to other companies. PLEX is not an "IOU", it's a product sold by CCP that can be exchanged for EVE game time or currency. CCP has allowed PLEX to be exchanged for real world items before (see PLEX for Nvidia card offer) and they stated at the time it was an experiment they intended to follow up on and were looking for the right opportunities to do so. Anuri Suaraj wrote: To me personally, this whole thread just sounds like a bunch of ungrateful Plex hoarding vets want to take advantage of CCP's generosity. I do not approve. Next time read it before you post such non-sense and make a fool out of yourself. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Miami Jones Virtual Industry Inc. 4	Posted - 2015.05.12 19:41:49 - [113] - Quote Anuri Suaraj wrote: Miami Jones wrote: raven666wings wrote: sabre906 wrote: No. It's basically channeling subscription money that could otherwise go to CCP, to Nvidia, while decreasing the number of characters in game. Both harms Eve. The player base has only so much appetite in buying plex, it's not an unlimited resource. We don't need to send money to Nvidia and give graphics cards to rl poor eve rich no lifers, to the detriment of CCP, Eve, and everyone else. This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money? The partnership with the headset manufacturer makes them dirtcheap to CCP and the ammount spent will be a pittance compared to the revenue gained with the event. Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP. I don't think this guy understands how the market works. PLEX prices go up, people purchase plex with rl money and sell on the eve market. The increase in PLEX price would only last so long. I believe there were 300 something GPUs from nvidia that were sold and the blip in plex prices barely lasted a day if that. To say to create an PLEX sink would decrease the number of accounts in eve is a really stupid thing to say. There are no down sides to this proposal. New player here. Been playing a few hours here and there for about a month now. Mostly exploration. And I'm just about 100 mill shy of getting my first Plex. Honestly, if it's that easy for me to make a Plex on my own, I can only imagine how much ISK and Plex some of the better veteran or corporate-backed players have stockpiled. I think some people should be satisfied with the fact that CCP so generously allows them to play the game for free instead of getting super greedy and trying to score RL items with a wad of virtual cash. My humble opinion is that in general CCP has the ISK faucet opened up a bit too much in EVE, which has now led to certain people developing maniacal schemes. To all the "economists" in the house... PLEX is basically an IOU from CCP that they can now cash in straight away since it can't really be used outside of the game. On the other hand, if you could use PLEX to buy things outside of the game, then CCP couldn't cash in that IOU straight away and would have to wait and see whether or not you (or the person that eventually gets the PLEX by whatever means) would use the PLEX for game time or for that VR thingy. I don't think CCP should allow that, and I doubt that they ever will, since I'm guessing they don't like handing their hard earned money out to other companies. To me personally, this whole thread just sounds like a bunch of ungrateful Plex hoarding vets want to take advantage of CCP's generosity. I do not approve. For someone who's been playing for barely a month you profess to know quite a bit about PLEX.
Anuri Suaraj Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2015.05.12 21:35:00 - [114] - Quote Miami Jones wrote: For someone who's been playing for barely a month you profess to know quite a bit about PLEX. Here's some stuff I do know about. Firstly, promotions are generally intended to reach as wide an audience as possible. So CCP would want to come up with something that reaches as much of the gaming community as possible. So, with that in mind, let's take a closer look at the brilliant "Let's buy VR HMD with PLEX" promotion of 2015. Who does it reach and how? When I look up the prices of these VR sets, I can see that only individuals who have already horded copious amounts of PLEX would be able to cash in on any such promotion. So here we're talking about only a small fraction of EVE's already miniscule player base, about only the most dedicated EVE online players around, a special group of individuals also known as: (and I highlight this next part so that you would all read it slowly and then maybe finally get it)... People who would have tried and/or played EVE Valkyrie regardless of any CCP promotion thrown their way (or not).... You see the point of a promotion is to PROMOTE something, like a PC game for example, to people who maybe not yet be acquainted with it or interested in it, and not to people who are already both acquainted and interested due to the fact that they're already subscribing to one of your PC games (that incidentally takes place in the same freaking universe). Secondly, I have to gawk at the most specific aim of this alleged promotion, the fabled VR HMD set. I mean, the OP claims that he only chose the VR HMD as ultimate goal of the promotion because Valkyrie will support VR HMD. But that would mean that anything, which is supported by or can in any way be loosely connected to EVE Valkyrie, could be the main attraction of the promotion. So, using the same logic CCP could get in bed with Logitech or Thrustmaster and offer promotional joysticks to people. Joysticks are cheaper than VRs, right? But OP hasn't suggested that. And why stop there... I mean, no one can game on any empty stomach, right? So why don't we extend this wonderful promotion to our local supermarket chains? Just imagine, by this time next week you could be getting that lifetime supply of honey-dipped ham that both you and your dog have always wanted. But OP hasn't suggested that either. No, the OP was very, very specific...Just get me them VR HMDs. And I'm sorry, but to me personally, or to anyone else that has a three digit IQ, this just has to be highly transparent. So the following is basically my theory on how this thread came into existence and why it has survived so long... The OP wanted a VR HMD set, but couldn't afford one. Then, one day, he had a light bulb go off. Wait, he thought, there's this company that not only let's me play their game for free, but has even gone so far as to let player's exchange virtual currency for RL items at times, like during that graphic card promotion thing (kudos to CCP for that btw, and shame on the player base for trying to exploit it now). And since this same company has a game coming out soon which will support the very piece of hardware that I so desire, I'll just run along to the Forum and suggest that CCP starts a "PLEX4VR-HMDs" promotion. It's just like PLEX4GOOD (kudos to CCP for that as well) except instead of sending aid to people in need, they'll be sending out overpriced VR goggles to my home address. I think that pretty much every person in the Forum who has PLEX stashed away somewhere will just automatically give me a thumbs up. I mean, who doesn't like free stuff, right? Like I said. The whole thing is highly transparent. Oh, and here's a great promotion for EVE Valkyrie: 1 EVE Online PLEX = 1 Special Edition EVE Valkyrie Fighter + Some other neat discounts on EVE Valkyrie stuff Virtual stuff for other virtual stuff. It costs CCP nothing, and gives EVE online players a leg up. And most importantly, it actually promotes EVE Valkyrie instead of VR HMD manufacturers. Also, VR goggles are just gonna make you look like a grandiose dweeb... raven666wings wrote: Next time read it before you post such non-sense and make a fool out of yourself. You should have taken your own advice about posting nonsense when you were opening this thread...
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 522	Posted - 2015.05.12 22:23:45 - [115] - Quote Damn dude, next time lay off the plasting bag and the spray can before you hit the keyboard and the post button so violently. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Miami Jones Virtual Industry Inc. 5	Posted - 2015.05.12 22:50:32 - [116] - Quote raven666wings wrote: Anuri Suaraj wrote: You should have taken your own advice about posting nonsense when you were opening this thread... Dude lay off the plastic bag and the spray can before you hit the keyboard so violently. We don't need furious offtopic rants in here. I don't think this guy has only logged in a few times in the past month. He seems so passionate about not having this go through. Kinda funny he's getting more upset as people don't agree with him.
Anuri Suaraj Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2015.05.12 22:53:31 - [117] - Quote raven666wings wrote: Anuri Suaraj wrote: You should have taken your own advice about posting nonsense when you were opening this thread... Lay off the plasting bag and the spray can before you hit the keyboard and the post button so violently. We don't need furious offtopic rants in here. Truth hurts? I was perfectly on topic. And it wasn't a rant, nor am I angry. I also have no intention of derailing your quest to get a VR thingy. It seems awfully important to you. I just wanted you to know that there are people with an actual brain present that can see past all the poppycock. FYI, PLEX is just something that CCP has already made money on, which is why your PLEX heat sink theory doesn't add up. CCP doesn't need to sink something that's worthless outside of their own virtual environment. They couldn't care less if there was a mere hundred, or a grand total of eight gazillion PLEX-es in the game. Especially since CCP can always manipulate the aforementioned environment one patch at a time. Also, from a pure gaming level, a bunch of people playing just to get stuff instead of playing just for the love of the game would not only bankrupt CCP, but would also ruin the game for people that can afford their own freaking VR goggles. You should really think about ceasing your attempts to continually bump this thread up and just let it die of natural causes. Just one man's opinion. But I won't rain on your parade any longer. Good luck with the VR thingy promotion.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 522	Posted - 2015.05.12 23:01:50 - [118] - Quote Your rants hurt the eyes just to look at and give brain cancer to follow through. Besides all your pseudo objections to the promotion are countered in previous posts, Once again, read the thread before you post such non-sense and make a fool out of yourself. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Miami Jones Virtual Industry Inc. 6	Posted - 2015.05.12 23:05:42 - [119] - Quote Anuri Suaraj wrote: Ehrm, I have more likes than you with less posts. So it would seem people do agree with me, at least more than they agree with you. And now I bid you good night and farewell, person who obviously speaks English as a second language. Congrats you have more likes. GN kid
Anuri Suaraj Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2015.05.12 23:07:45 - [120] - Quote raven666wings wrote: Anuri Suaraj wrote: And now I bid you good night and farewell, person who obviously speaks English as a second language. Your rants hurt the eyes just to look at and give brain cancer to follow through. Besides all your pseudo objections to the promotion are countered in previous posts, Once again, read the thread before you post such non-sense and make a fool out of yourself. Regretfully, I have read the whole whopping 4 pages of this thread and have found the only cancer causing posts to be the ones in which you ask for a handout and then try to disguise that fact with an alleged "promotion". But like I said, I'm really tired from explaining things to the likes of you, so feel free to go back to your bad attempt at a Jedi mind trick. Because I certainly have no intention of proceeding with this inadvertent bumping of a pitiful thread. I bid you farewell.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 522	Posted - 2015.05.12 23:20:31 - [121] - Quote Anuri Suaraj wrote: Regretfully, I have read the whole whopping 4 pages of this thread and have found the only cancer causing posts to be the ones in which you ask for a handout and then try to disguise that fact with an alleged "promotion". But like I said, I'm really tired from explaining things to the likes of you, so feel free to go back to your bad attempt at a Jedi mind trick. Because I certainly have no intention of proceeding with this inadvertent bumping of a pitiful thread. I bid you farewell. Alright Darth Vader, don't let your soul be consumed by the dark side! Remove the mask once in a while and breathe some fresh air. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Anthar Thebess 1019	Posted - 2015.05.13 07:14:18 - [122] - Quote Uh , this is not me. Still i totally agree , this is not about EVE promotion. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 522	Posted - 2015.05.13 14:47:34 - [123] - Quote Personally I'd rather see CCP partner with HTC and Steam than with Occulus for the promotion. I was never fond of Facebook and am apprehensive about what the practical results of their acquisition will mean in terms of Rift software, user privacy/data gathering and marketing/publicity. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 522	Posted - 2015.05.16 09:13:57 - [124] - Quote There's nothing to be afraid of, Virtual Reality will rehabilitate your mind and eventually your body. You'll be alright I promise, just concentrate. Okay? We'll try some music. This is true spirituality! source: The Lawnmower Man 2 CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 531	Posted - 2015.06.01 11:47:51 - [125] - Quote Looking at recent news feeds it looks like Oculus' CEO wants to bundle the Rift with a PC for $1500. Wonder if he's trying to raise funds to pay an incoming lawsuit fine, since this company named Total Recall Technologies is accusing them of having stolen confidential intellectual property used to build the Rift. If that isn't enough reasons to say NO to Oculus well take a look at this shocking footage of someone using it. The new hi-tech Facebook for Oculus website is also already online. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
molly666trillions Cyber Chaos Crew 49	Posted - 2015.06.03 15:12:59 - [126] - Quote Oculus might be owned by Facebook and it will probably jeopardize their user's cyberspace privacy/anonymity and bomb them with trashy ads. But at least they're not banning ** content from being experienced on it! This comes as great news and opens up great professional opportunities for us pleasure biz people. There are already many Rift Virtual Sex applications under develoment listed at this site. My weapon of choice initially was the Vive too but unless they confirm ** won't be blocked on it I'll go for a Rift. CyberChaosCrewTV Offering a (small) ISK bonus for doing community work in a provable way is from my personal perspective fine.
El'ielle Hoplite Brigade 0	Posted - 2015.06.07 14:34:47 - [127] - Quote +1 OP
Maruku Asanari Perkone Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.06.07 15:36:56 - [128] - Quote +1 OP Yeah it would be pretty cool if we could exchange PLEX for VR HMD, I hadn't heard of the video card for PLEX event. :)
Intabus Low Orbit Reconnaissance 2	Posted - 2015.06.07 16:17:31 - [129] - Quote +1 OP Id like PLEX for VR.
Chantl Aideron Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.06.07 19:53:03 - [130] - Quote +1 OP PLEX for Vr would be awesome
Sterge666 Enat Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 0	Posted - 2015.06.07 23:25:20 - [131] - Quote I second this PLEX for VR rules.....
xxxTRUSTxxx Galactic Rangers 269	Posted - 2015.06.08 17:42:13 - [132] - Quote raven666wings wrote: To all you guys crying about the possible PLEX isk price inflation with this promotion, take a look at how much it inflated with the PLEX for GOOD program (that actually sinks much more PLEX than a PLEX for item event does). It merely went up 60 million isk, it's currently at ~870 mil and probably will not go over 900 mil. The market stock shrinked a bit but it'll grow back soon enough and the price will go down again. Like Mr Epeen wrote before, find something legit to get worked up over. well just for the fact that you'd even compare plex for good with plex for for a fecking VR headset. helping others in RL when they are in peril,, feck yes! helping others (very few others) in RL to get a VR set ??? really??? no support here sorry.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 538	Posted - 2015.06.08 19:16:19 - [133] - Quote xxxTRUSTxxx wrote: well just for the fact that you'd even compare plex for good with plex for for a fecking VR headset. helping others in RL when they are in peril,, feck yes! helping others (very few others) in RL to get a VR set ??? really??? no support here sorry. It's alright, I didnt expect the PLEX for VR HMD promotion to get support from people who lack comprehension/judgment sense and spell "fcking" with an "e". Fortunately there are other smart people playing the game and working at CCP who understand why this kind of event is beneficial both for the players and the company. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.*
xxxTRUSTxxx Galactic Rangers 270	Posted - 2015.06.08 19:18:10 - [134] - Quote raven666wings wrote: xxxTRUSTxxx wrote: well just for the fact that you'd even compare plex for good with plex for for a fecking VR headset. helping others in RL when they are in peril,, feck yes! helping others (very few others) in RL to get a VR set ??? really??? no support here sorry. It's alright, I didnt the PLEX for VR HMD promotion to get support from illiterate people who lack comprehension/judgment sense and spell "f*cuking" with an "e". Fortunately there are smart people playing the game and working at CCP who understand why this kind of event is beneficial both for the players and the company. Hey,,, Hey,,, hey! i don't see you repying to those that gave you a +1 feck off,, i gave my reason now grab a spoon and get in line. gobshite.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 5701	Posted - 2015.06.08 19:28:06 - [135] - Quote Removed some off topic posts. Keep it civil, thanks. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 538	Posted - 2015.06.08 21:45:41 - [136] - Quote xxxTRUSTxxx wrote: well just for the fact that you'd even compare plex for good with plex for for a fecking VR headset. helping others in RL when they are in peril,, feck yes! helping others (very few others) in RL to get a VR set ??? really??? no support here sorry. It's okay, I didn't expect the PLEX for VR HMD offer to get support from (very few) people who lack comprehension/judgement sense and spell "fcking" with an "e". Fortunately there are people playing the game and working at CCP who understand why it's a good opportunity for everybody. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.*
Anthar Thebess 1068	Posted - 2015.06.09 07:09:48 - [137] - Quote I does not matter how many times you going to post in this topic. This will be abused by people wanting to do big payouts out of eve , additionally there is no profit in this kind promotion for CCP, just a way to lose money. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Aridam Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.06.09 07:57:06 - [138] - Quote I think this would be a good idea! Try it as a promotion and see how it goes and if it works well, then maybe maintain it
xxxTRUSTxxx Galactic Rangers 272	Posted - 2015.06.09 08:35:27 - [139] - Quote raven666wings wrote: xxxTRUSTxxx wrote: well just for the fact that you'd even compare plex for good with plex for for a fecking VR headset. helping others in RL when they are in peril,, feck yes! helping others (very few others) in RL to get a VR set ??? really??? no support here sorry. It's okay, I didn't expect the PLEX for VR HMD offer to get support from (very few) people who lack comprehension/judgement sense and spell "f*cking" with an "e". Fortunately there are people playing the game and working at CCP who understand why it's a good opportunity for everybody. no it's not ok,, someone disagrees with you and you try jump all over them and get personal. i'm from Ireland. we say Feck all the time. that's not about to change anytime soon,, so yea. grab yourself a spoon and get in line gobshite. this will never be a good thing for everybody. but for a few yes. perhaps those that cashed in on the recent amazon aurum deals? you got a no support and i even said sorry. but i guess that's just not good enough for some richards.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 540	Posted - 2015.06.09 18:30:29 - [140] - Quote My fondness for Steam and its products grows everyday... Logged in today and noticed they have a new refunding policy since nd get them June 2 http://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds/ you can now get any Steam store games or software refunded within 2 weeks if you didn't play/use them for more than 2 hours... I just got GTA V refunded, bought it 2 months ago to broadcast it on twitch but turns out my laptop can't handle it... These guys rock, now I have the money back into steam wallet and can buy other games. For now it seems it's not possible to get refunded on Steam hardware (controller, link or Steam VR) but maybe in the future even this will be possible! I'm sure if CCP partnered with them to acquire the PLEX for VR headsets they would kindly refund any leftovers that were not sold in the offer! CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Velarra 393	Posted - 2015.06.09 21:16:12 - [141] - Quote If plex for real world object, then problem is ebay. This would be bad for many reasons.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 545	Posted - 2015.06.09 22:19:13 - [142] - Quote Velarra wrote: If plex for real world object, then problem is ebay. This would be bad for many reasons. Ebay? Nah I prefer Amazon, I've partnered with them and they always have nice discounts and free shipping options. Many reasons? Please do share them. I'd like to read on those. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Hamish McPhee Hoplite Brigade 0	Posted - 2015.06.11 00:51:02 - [143] - Quote yes please
Anthar Thebess 1071	Posted - 2015.06.11 07:22:10 - [144] - Quote no sanctioned RMT please Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 547	Posted - 2015.06.11 09:02:45 - [145] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: no sanctioned RMT please 22. Posting regarding RMT (Real Money Trading) is prohibited. Posts discussing, linking to, or advertising RMT, including but not limited to the sale of in game items, assets, currency, characters or game accounts for real life money are strictly prohibited. Please take some time to read the forum rules before you post on this thread sir. Have a nice day. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Anthar Thebess 1071	Posted - 2015.06.11 09:12:27 - [146] - Quote raven666wings wrote: Anthar Thebess wrote: no sanctioned RMT please 22. Posting regarding RMT (Real Money Trading) is prohibited. Posts discussing, linking to, or advertising RMT, including but not limited to the sale of in game items, assets, currency, characters or game accounts for real life money are strictly prohibited. Please take some time to read the forum rules before you post on this thread sir. Let's keep it civil and on topic. Have a nice day. You are posting about creating new RMT possibility. I only state that this kind of operation should not be allowed. Are you reporting yourself? Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
raven666wings Cyber Chaos Crew 547	Posted - 2015.06.11 09:29:31 - [147] - Quote Don't worry the ISD's will be here shortly to take care of you. CyberChaosCrewTV Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 11/15/2013 12:33:03 PM.
Anthar Thebess 1071	Posted - 2015.06.11 09:39:04 - [148] - Quote raven666wings wrote: Don't worry the ISD's will be here shortly to take care of you. Why? Because i think that buying RL items for virtual currency is something bad , and named RMT? Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 5804	Posted - 2015.06.11 11:33:53 - [149] - Quote Removed some more off topic posts. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Anthar Thebess 1071	Posted - 2015.06.11 12:18:33 - [150] - Quote ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote: Removed some more off topic posts. Sorry but how we can talk about off topic post when OP is spaming constantly about how this will be good for eve, and that this will not be used by to RMT. RMT is about obtaining real life cash and items using virtual currency. What OP is posting falls into this definition because - no one will buy plexes from CCP using real life cash to buy VR HMD , simply because it will be 20-30% more expensive if the same person would just buy stuff directly from the store. So we are talking about using in game currency to buy plexes that will be used to obtain RL item. Item that is not connected in any way to eve universe. For me, and for many more people using in game ISK to buy VR HMD is simply RMT that needs to be prohibited. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Khanid Voltar Third Way Retirement Corp 43	Posted - 2015.06.11 12:45:27 - [151] - Quote Anthar Thebess wrote: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote: Removed some more off topic posts. Sorry but how we can talk about off topic post when OP is spaming constantly about how this will be good for eve, and that this will not be used by to RMT. If OP is spamming how good this will be then you are spamming how bad it will be. OP is for the most part being constructive whereas you are just repeating your same point over and over. And now you are arguing with ISD? LOL PS Thanks for bumping the thread else I might have missed it. @OP: Good idea /signed
Anthar Thebess 1071	Posted - 2015.06.11 13:06:09 - [152] - Quote I don't have to be constructive. OP want : ISK -> Plex -> VR HMD How will you call it? Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Khanid Voltar Third Way Retirement Corp 43	Posted - 2015.06.11 18:30:47 - [153] - Quote Anyone who has read the thread will see your point, the fact that you repeatedly reiterate the same point means you are just ranting. Which is against forum rules. Irrelevant of its merits I doubt it will ever happen. CCP seems to be almost kafka-esque in its bureaucracy sometimes.
Anthar Thebess 1071	Posted - 2015.06.12 07:17:54 - [154] - Quote I am not ranting. OP constantly tries to bump this topic by posting new reasons and repeating old ones. Many people will like and support this idea as for every one this is "Hey great idea , i will be able to buy new , shiny and expensive VR HMD for ISK!" Most of the people don't read whole thread , but first and last posts - i guess this is what the OP is hoping for. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Kalari Kalfren Born Imperialism 1	Posted - 2015.06.12 21:36:32 - [155] - Quote This is a great idea.
Logan Verasse Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.06.12 21:40:23 - [156] - Quote Pure goodness keep this going.
Lenya Afuran Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.06.12 21:44:17 - [157] - Quote Please push this!!
Djiana Lenar Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2015.06.14 08:05:26 - [158] - Quote [08:03:17] raven666wings > someone need 20 mil for a frig? [08:03:52] raven666wings > just have to post here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=414380 and say" i want PLEX for VR and raven666wings is pvp God" [08:04:05] raven666wings > +1 first post too
ISD Atomic Dove ISD Community Communications Liaisons 58	Posted - 2015.06.15 11:15:04 - [159] - Quote Removed an off topic post. Quote: 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited. Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster. ISD Atomic Dove Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Wachuhan B52 Bombers 0	Posted - 2015.06.15 12:55:21 - [160] - Quote So nobody is seeing the problem that this will result in: isk - plex - VR - ebay - $$ I personaly don't mind the idea, but you're just talking about making bank in RL by converting the billions/trillions of isk we've gathered for the last 10years... Carry on.. I'll continue stockpiling plex until this becomes a thing
Telegram Sam Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 1495	Posted - 2015.06.17 00:52:53 - [161] - Quote +1
Jennifer Dinasus Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.06.17 08:53:04 - [162] - Quote The veterans of Eve desreve such retribution and it should be considered. PLEX for VR could rangle in more players who commit long term and create an effictive incentive.
Leathal Thorn Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.06.17 08:55:00 - [163] - Quote raven666wings > sending 10mil isk to everyone that likes thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=414380 and posts saying they want PLEX for VR offer
Anthar Thebess 1083	Posted - 2015.06.17 08:56:16 - [164] - Quote Leathal Thorn wrote: raven666wings > sending 10mil isk to everyone that likes thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=414380 and posts saying they want PLEX for VR offer You got to be kidding me .................... This is sick! But proves that the whole point of this topic is using ISK to get something. Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Jennifer Dinasus Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.06.17 09:13:33 - [165] - Quote Quote: raven666wings>My interest is obviously to get a free headset, but that doesnt make the PLEX for VR a bad deal for CCP.
Anthar Thebess 1083	Posted - 2015.06.17 09:16:01 - [166] - Quote Jennifer Dinasus wrote: Quote: raven666wings>My interest is obviously to get a free headset, but that doesnt make the PLEX for VR a bad deal for CCP. Oh wait , how free? So this is not PLEX for VR HMD ??? Where you buy plexes from CCP and then you buy VR headsed for them? Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
ISD Decoy ISD Community Communications Liaisons 559	Posted - 2015.06.17 09:19:08 - [167] - Quote Removed some off topic posts, and those quoting rule breaking replies. Please stay on topic, don't paste chat logs, and keep things civil. ISD Decoy Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Anthar Thebess 1083	Posted - 2015.06.17 09:28:17 - [168] - Quote ISD Decoy wrote: Removed some off topic posts, and those quoting rule breaking replies. Please stay on topic, don't paste chat logs, and keep things civil. To clarify , OP was offering ISK for liking this topic , and confirmed that the only goal was to get free headset. Thankfully this is not chat log, but a summary. But hey we have reddit! : http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3a58kj/plex_isk_for_vr_hmd/ Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Nicolai Serkanner Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective 416	Posted - 2015.06.17 09:56:47 - [169] - Quote Mina Sebiestar wrote: Good morning. I don't care. Seconded.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 5866	Posted - 2015.06.17 22:43:35 - [170] - Quote Quote: Forum rules 3. Ranting is prohibited. A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents. 5. Trolling is prohibited. Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. 23. Post constructively. Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting. As the thread seems to have devolved into mostly moderated posts and off topic posting, I'll be closing this thread now. Thank you. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

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