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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.27 14:50:41 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:Eve Solecist wrote:Consufing.
Without API key, there is no access to private API details, which killmails are.
You are listed for other reasons: .) Because another party on killmails uploaded the kill or is verified. .) Corp API.
There should be no way for killboards to access your private data without someone providing a key, which is the only way to retrieve it. A kill mail is also (external) interfacing between the software and your account, means you get informed about an event that has already registered inside the software. I do not have a generated API key being inside a rookie npc corp. A killmail is a bit of data. Don't confuse the data with the interface. Also, that line seems rather consufing again.
Anyhow, Hengle seems to have answered the question, which is easily verifyable. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2015.03.27 14:52:24 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:Hengle Teron wrote:The answer to OP is simple...
The victim was in npc corp, so anyone with an alt in that npc corp can fetch the killmail, from the corp's losses. These are "public" within NPC corps? Wow, I had no idea! Thanks, Brutor! You may have my bike!
Yep, you can go to the corp tab of an npc corp and access kills/losses. Most are listed there but not all of them, for reasons unknown. I had a loss unlisted there but listed on zkillboard.
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2015.03.27 14:53:31 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:Eve Solecist wrote:Hengle Teron wrote:The answer to OP is simple...
The victim was in npc corp, so anyone with an alt in that npc corp can fetch the killmail, from the corp's losses. These are "public" within NPC corps? Wow, I had no idea! Thanks, Brutor! You may have my bike! Yep, you can go to the corp tab of an npc corp and access kills/losses. Most are listed there but not all of them, for reasons unknown. I had a loss unlisted there but listed on zkillboard. Really weird. I guess only a dev can accurately answer the question then. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
24149
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Posted - 2015.03.27 14:55:49 -
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Gimme Sake wrote: Maybe you must have a first kill to get registered/have a presence there? Bandwidth reasons?
I can tell you for sure I have never generated an API-key yet I'm listed there.
A few of my losses were in Zkill earlier (through APIs submitted by my killers), but they have since disappeared. I don't know the technical reasons for that.
You are listed their because:
- Someone submitted an external KM link from SWA (your corp)
- A person who landed a final blow on you, or suffered a loss from you has their API in Zkill
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2015.03.27 14:56:18 -
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Could be something downtown related because it was immediately after dt. I can see Scipio Artelius' loss is also close DT.
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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
44089
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Posted - 2015.03.27 14:57:16 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:Hengle Teron wrote:The answer to OP is simple...
The victim was in npc corp, so anyone with an alt in that npc corp can fetch the killmail, from the corp's losses. These are "public" within NPC corps? Wow, I had no idea! Thanks, Brutor! You may have my bike! aw yiss
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
35166
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Posted - 2015.03.27 15:38:47 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:Could be something downtown related because it was immediately after dt. I can see Scipio Artelius' loss is also close DT. No, it's not related to DT at all. Simply to the requirements for kills to show on zkillboard.
I could run the test again at anytime (name of character is not important either as the killmail contains the character ID) and the outcome would be the same.
This all comes back to the question in the OP, because in the absense of any API linked to a killboard, it isn't as simple as waiting and then checking zkillboard, hence why she is looking for a way to access the in game killmail.
If you provide an API, zkillboard (and others) can fill in some gaps but only a little bit as CCP provide data for the previous 25 kills/losses when a request is made. Anything older than that needs to be manually uploaded even then.
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2015.03.27 16:03:17 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Gimme Sake wrote:Could be something downtown related because it was immediately after dt. I can see Scipio Artelius' loss is also close DT. No, it's not related to DT at all. Simply to the requirements for kills to show on zkillboard. I could run the test again at anytime (name of character is not important either as the killmail contains the character ID) and the outcome would be the same. This all comes back to the question in the OP, because in the absense of any API linked to a killboard, it isn't as simple as waiting and then checking zkillboard, hence why she is looking for a way to access the in game killmail. If you provide an API, zkillboard (and others) can fill in some gaps but only a little bit as CCP provide data for the previous 25 kills/losses for a character when a request is made. Anything older than that needs to be manually uploaded even then.
My inquiry was why my loss appeared on zkillboard but didn't in the corp loss listing. Because it means the data delivered to the killboard came from aggressors side. I which case you're probably right about an involved part with an active api key. If that's true means the reaper link loss (in an npc corp) you posted involved 2 parties without an api key.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
4144
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Posted - 2015.03.27 16:16:39 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote: but hopefully they can be left for a little while. As this is a trial to proof a specific use case scenario and both involved parties are indeed yours, they will be left alone.
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