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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
260
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Posted - 2015.06.23 10:38:20 -
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Ortilus Orsides wrote:Enjoy the OPnes of this ship while you can, cause it's gonna get gutted like a fish come the next patch right after it's release.
luckly and historicaly all gal's ships became forgotten by devs (even Ishtar's *cough*cough* ... case) as soon as they release them. so, Iroq and Myself got a high chances of having this ship without changes for years... |

Ortilus Orsides
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.06.23 11:04:49 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:[Hecate, Use Party Pants]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Damage Control II
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator II Small Transverse Bulkhead I Small Transverse Bulkhead I
If math isn't superbad, around 10k ehp with 5.5k hull ehp. Needs 1%-PG imp. Pushes through the entire AAR-mag in about 20secs, that's long before your capacitor is dry. Deals 698.5dps cold without implants at spitting range, but has scram and two webs anyways. With 2 3%-hardwirings and heat, you're looking at 847dps.
Without no cap booster and If they have neuts, you'd be dead before your AAR runs out of it's first mags. And for some reason unlike the ASBs, without cap the AARs won't rep. And trust me, NO ONE is gonna want to engage this little dragon without neuts.
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Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2015.06.23 11:15:09 -
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When this ship is released, will Eve have a tide change and become "T3Ds ONLINE"?? |

Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
1128
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Posted - 2015.06.23 11:34:12 -
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Ortilus Orsides wrote:Lloyd Roses wrote:[Hecate, Use Party Pants]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Damage Control II
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator II Small Transverse Bulkhead I Small Transverse Bulkhead I
If math isn't superbad, around 10k ehp with 5.5k hull ehp. Needs 1%-PG imp. Pushes through the entire AAR-mag in about 20secs, that's long before your capacitor is dry. Deals 698.5dps cold without implants at spitting range, but has scram and two webs anyways. With 2 3%-hardwirings and heat, you're looking at 847dps. Without no cap booster and If they have neuts, you'd be dead before your AAR runs out of it's first mags. And for some reason unlike the ASBs, without cap the AARs won't rep. And trust me, NO ONE is gonna want to engage this little dragon without neuts.
Cause I'm totally going to engage a sentinel in such a fit 
Just because it would run dry eventually is far from a reason to fit a CB. I'm flying AAR canes with a neut and mwd. People told me that doesn't work when in fact I didn't cap once yet. Same is expected from the hecate. You got ~900-1k capacitor. If you manage to cap yourself out by running that AAR or similar, please skill yourself or get good at target selection. |

Ortilus Orsides
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.06.23 15:04:34 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:Ortilus Orsides wrote:Lloyd Roses wrote:[Hecate, Use Party Pants]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Damage Control II
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator II Small Transverse Bulkhead I Small Transverse Bulkhead I
If math isn't superbad, around 10k ehp with 5.5k hull ehp. Needs 1%-PG imp. Pushes through the entire AAR-mag in about 20secs, that's long before your capacitor is dry. Deals 698.5dps cold without implants at spitting range, but has scram and two webs anyways. With 2 3%-hardwirings and heat, you're looking at 847dps. Without no cap booster and If they have neuts, you'd be dead before your AAR runs out of it's first mags. And for some reason unlike the ASBs, without cap the AARs won't rep. And trust me, NO ONE is gonna want to engage this little dragon without neuts. Cause I'm totally going to engage a sentinel in such a fit  Just because it would run dry eventually is far from a reason to fit a CB. I'm flying AAR canes with a neut and mwd. People told me that doesn't work when in fact I didn't cap once yet. Same is expected from the hecate. You got ~900-1k capacitor. If you manage to cap yourself out by running that AAR or similar, please skill yourself or get good at target selection.
Don't get me wrong, I like this fit. Since the ship is slow it's gonna need dual webs to hold a target down while hammering out 800+ dps. I just wanted an explanation from you on how you were planning on sustaining your cap without boosters since this ship is way more cap thirsty than the other T3Ds. If there's a T3D ship that needed 2 utility high, It's this one. |

Syrilian
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2015.06.23 15:51:23 -
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So will this ship be used for exploration with the probe scanner CPU reduction? |

Paranoid Loyd
5941
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Posted - 2015.06.23 16:17:32 -
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Syrilian wrote:So will this ship be used for exploration with the probe scanner CPU reduction? Yes, that's one of it's uses...
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Syrilian
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2015.06.23 16:26:16 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Syrilian wrote:So will this ship be used for exploration with the probe scanner CPU reduction? Yes, that's one of it's uses...
Probably not one of the best uses of it though eh? :)
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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
1130
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Posted - 2015.06.23 22:52:40 -
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Ortilus Orsides wrote:Don't get me wrong, I like this fit. Since the ship is slow it's gonna need dual webs to hold a target down while hammering out 800+ dps. I just wanted an explanation from you on how you were planning on sustaining your cap without boosters since this ship is way more cap thirsty than the other T3Ds.
I wasn't planning on sustaining. Don't have to sustain your target very long with such damage. Make it a social event and get a friend along and you'll have 1500+ dps to gank with.
For honourabru pvp there are most certainly better fits, but if you just land on someone and start melting it 30-40secs of cap should be sufficient. |

Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
3952
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Posted - 2015.06.23 23:15:53 -
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Syrilian wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Syrilian wrote:So will this ship be used for exploration with the probe scanner CPU reduction? Yes, that's one of it's uses... Probably not one of the best uses of it though eh? :) I have a feeling Ralph and Omarr are going to have a fun time using it to mission bait. No scan alt needed either, can do it all in one ship.
"I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
Because sometimes you die. And sometimes we are why. GSLLC is Recruiting.
Grrr I tell you. Grrr.
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Apex Bex
Boundless Exploration
40
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Posted - 2015.06.25 00:04:01 -
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I think that AAR fit above is fine for solo work provided you can avoid neuting but in a small gang scenario you're going to be capped out instantly and probably quite high on the primary list if you're not. Rail fits are pretty disappointing compared to beam Confessors or LML Jackdaws so I have been working on a few blaster variants for small gang work, where the tackling duties are shared.
All in all, I think it looks like a fun ship and its range limitations shouldn't make it too OP. It's just how it is if you fly Gallente, generally.
Disciple of Bob
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W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
324
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Posted - 2015.06.25 01:33:39 -
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The gank buffer fit isnt going to be a problem, high dps ships are ok. The problem are going to be the dual rep fit ones that nothing can break alone. |

Aleqs Villint
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.06.25 05:16:29 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote:The gank buffer fit isnt going to be a problem, high dps ships are ok. The problem are going to be the dual rep fit ones that nothing can break alone.
The dual rep fits run dry within a minute, minute and a half even with a cap booster running full bore and the MWD off. The local tank is ridiculously powerful but a big weakness is even a single light neut or nos will be enough to run you out in a handful of seconds.
If you have near-perfect fitting skills you can fit a T2 ACR, downgrade the guns to Ions and fit a Nos yourself though, so that might help with the cap issue.
e; it still has the massively glaring weakness in that it is the slowest unpropped T3D, probably the slowest sub-cruiser period. |

Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
265
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Posted - 2015.06.25 07:33:44 -
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Having 4meds and 4lows would make you to think harder than usual especially with such unusual bonuses. |

Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2015.06.25 08:09:02 -
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Aleqs Villint wrote:W0lf Crendraven wrote:The gank buffer fit isnt going to be a problem, high dps ships are ok. The problem are going to be the dual rep fit ones that nothing can break alone. The dual rep fits run dry within a minute, minute and a half even with a cap booster running full bore and the MWD off. The local tank is ridiculously powerful but a big weakness is even a single light neut or nos will be enough to run you out in a handful of seconds. If you have near-perfect fitting skills you can fit a T2 ACR, downgrade the guns to Ions and fit a Nos yourself though, so that might help with the cap issue. e; it still has the massively glaring weakness in that it is the slowest unpropped T3D, probably the slowest sub-cruiser period.
mm, at first glance I thought it was stupid OP, but a second glance is this ship is gonna have serious cap issues if used solo. CCP needs to buff the ship's cap buffer and recharge rate at least 25% above the other T3Ds and it needs a 2nd utility high slot for that all important additional nos.
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Belthazor4011
For Your Bacon Only The Marmite Collective
179
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Posted - 2015.06.25 16:25:51 -
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Daniela Doran wrote:Stuff
Nah it needs a weakness, these ships are good enough. A weakness is needed and this ones weakness is clear to spot.
Still going to marry it and have its babies though  |

Syrilian
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
111
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Posted - 2015.07.01 13:31:25 -
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This ship looks like it flies like a souped up Catalyst. Is that accurate? |

Odithia
Rondass
80
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Posted - 2015.07.02 07:31:54 -
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Belthazor4011 wrote:Daniela Doran wrote:Stuff
Nah it needs a weakness, these ships are good enough. A weakness is needed and this ones weakness is clear to spot. Still going to marry it and have its babies though  Agreed, otherwise it will be like 10mn svipul all over again. |

Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
290
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Posted - 2015.07.02 08:20:53 -
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Odithia wrote:Belthazor4011 wrote:Daniela Doran wrote:Stuff
Nah it needs a weakness, these ships are good enough. A weakness is needed and this ones weakness is clear to spot. Still going to marry it and have its babies though  Agreed, otherwise it will be like 10mn svipul all over again.
It's dps gonna reach level of ENI or Brutix which is madness. |

Deresius Silverskin
Evangelists of Eve
0
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Posted - 2015.07.09 05:15:13 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I am sad that the Hecate is not going to be a badass light/medium drone platform. I know everyone (myself included) bitches about how OP drones are but they are supposed to be Gallente's unique weapon system and I was hoping the Hecate would do something interesting in the drone department.
I really couldn't agree more. I just now found out, and died a little inside. I guess all I really want in life, is a Guardian-Vexor. Drones are my favorite aspect of this entire game, So i'm stuck in a sad place, I want control of as many drones as a carrier, in a little ship. I think i'll make a whole new thread about this. |

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3811
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Posted - 2015.07.09 05:25:04 -
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As a gank boat, it's more cost-effective than a Brutix or a Talos.
Oh god.
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