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Tekeran PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2006.10.23 18:47:00 - [31] I remember being told to make isk you needed to mine so I warped my Ibis into a belt and saw about 50 bantams mining. If you found a kernite roid you guarded it with your life. I remember having my ore stolen, going to grab my merlin, coming back and popping the theif then turning around and fended concord off. The Thorax was the best ship for mining and pvp. I remember my first time seeing a BS (raven) and being awestruck. The community was friendlier and responces to petitions took minutes. Eve has had a face lift and lots of content added but its funamentially the same as it was 2003.
31i73 BGG Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.23 19:07:00 - [32] I heard that ppl were able to do fleetbattles, and that you could always jump thru a gate.
Dari Vire	Posted - 2006.10.23 19:09:00 - [33] no auto pilot and mineing ark in derelik. anyone remember that bug back in beta where if you activated and stoped your mining lasers it would instantly give you ore? ahh the days of the early bug sploits. the night of 3 hours of mineing ark just to realize the station i was dumping it all into had no refine. then moving all that in a frig 3 hops to one that did..
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.23 19:55:00 - [34] Full of exploits? --------- Cruelty is God's way of showing kindness and God is kind. Pax Caldaria.
Karma Gallente Mos Eisley Consortium	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:07:00 - [35] I remember being scared out of my skull every time I undocked from the station. no, this wasn't on Karma, I made another character - an Amarr - which later died in a most horrible fashion inside his first Cruiser. I spent most of my time mining then... I bought my first Indy for 1.200.000isk.. equipped it with a miner I, a smartbomb, a civilian shield booster, some cargo expanders and set to work on the asteroids... if a NPC pirate came by, simply activate the smartbomb and shield booster... and wait... hours and hours would go by. then I got my cruiser and decided to attack some pirates... I had only one medium laser... and several small lasers... NO tanking modules, or anything... in my youthfull bliss, I thought I'd be alright if I equipped a hull rep, armor rep, shield booster and some weapon mods... that I'd own anything and everything... very wrong... goth scrambled, webbed and ultimately.. destroyed. oh .. right... wasn't insured either. ;) _________________ "No Worries" Karma, fool on the hull.
Havelcek Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:26:00 - [36] Originally by: Redundancy Edited by: Redundancy on 23/10/2006 13:55:40 I remember it as a time when people weren't so horrible to us on the forums at every opertunity. NB: Even if I can fully understand the current frustration with the servers etc. If people didn't love the game they wouldn't complain. Indifference is death.
Barbicane The Gun Club	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:39:00 - [37] I spent my first couple of weeks buying and selling NPC trade goods and finally losing my hard earned millions to the first scam around... the frozen plant seeds scam! Someone would set up a large buy order of frozen plant seeds at a very lucrative price, and then set a sell order a few jumps away at half that price (still way above base price but why worry about that - it was easy money for very little work!). The unsuspecting trader (me) noticed these orders, spent all his savings to buy plant seeds from the sell order and went to sell them to the buy order... only the buyer didn't have any cash in his wallet. The order would then be cancelled (with no punishment for the buyer) and there I was with an indy-load of expensive frozen plant seeds that could only be sold with a major loss. It took me a long time to realize that the disappearing buy order wasn't a bug in the game mechanics, but that I'd actually been scammed, but it was a valuable lesson.
Kaptein Trefot	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:53:00 - [38] When was the first insta made and who thought of it? :)
Khyle Gallente	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:59:00 - [39] Edited by: Khyle on 23/10/2006 21:00:34 Instas were first invented for mining in beta, to drop you on your can and the station. The process was called xyz-Approach after the inventor, just cant remember his name ;P. Anybody? For Beta-vets using the concept for gates was a quick adaption after the first gate-camps. Or at least the guy who posted a guide on the forums first.
Lucian Alucard Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:09:00 - [40] I miss mining Dark Ochre in Nonni and the days when getting a crusier was a feat.

Dau Imperius Amarr	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:46:00 - [41] As one of the people who actually has played this game from day 1 (my first character was a Caldari, but I trashed him when I found I loved the Amarr about 1 month into the game) I've seen the changes. Day 1 was a sense of wonder. Jita...was empty. We all huddled in groups of frigates, happily mining, to afford the biggest frigate we could purchase from the NPC dealers. Mission running didn't pay much, so most people skipped it, as it had no perks to it anyways. Trading was actually a god-send and people found routes that were in the same system that paid a lot. Ninja-mining into 0.0 space was very common. These were the good first few months. We had a community. People were not actively PvPing. People were exploring and building. True there were rare exceptions...mOo for instance, but we also had a very active events team who kept everything mostly quiet and intercted with us. the people, yes it was the people that made EVE different over 3 1/2 years ago. No leet phreaks, no PvP overkillers. I mis the players form then. They had heart and knowledge, and made the game with it's lack of the content it has now, playable. You all simply have a desire to shoot everything and anything. Big change there! Corporations grew big..in excess of 500+ people (especially Taggert) That was the goal. To get a huge corporation and build, build build. No alliances. Players weren't in control of the economy, which was a damn good thing. Prices weren't over-inflated. They were set in steon and they offered us everything we could use. Hell, I even joined CONCORD, while they were still a mission giving corporation. Some big events that make me sigh. I remember the first time one person purchased an Augeror. All of us frigates mining in punishers and tormentors literally flew next to it and oogled. It was soooooooooo big. That was a good day, and a lot of us fell in love with what the game should have been; A space MMORPG, not counterstrike in space. It was a tiime for learning and growth. NPC rats, gave some damn good Sec status rises, but were insanely harder! (WTF CCP, you had the NPC's right the first time!) They would have wiped the floor with even a single tanked BS of today in low sec space, let alone 0.0 Omber and Plag were plentiful in even .8 space Kern and the like were in .5 space. Good times for miners. We could actually do things and play the game the way we wanted to..not the way PvPers today say we have to do. A lot of us kept begging CCP to add exploration content at this time. We wanted to go into 0.0 space not to exploit it, or gank (for the most part), we wanted to accomplish something in-game. We saw a lot of the Jove in that time and the storyline was important to us after all. So the game has gone downhill from there. Less and less has the awe of EVE been transfered from a game that would have rivaled Elite had it gone in that direction, to nothing but more toys for more shooting... sigh Good memories of the game then. For all it's simplicity it was better. We didn't see it back then, and a lot of peopel quit because there wasn't enough to do. Mine or fight was the only option. There should have been more options back then....not new ships or rubbish like that. I meant making the EVE galaxy a big part of the game, and leting us feel like we were exploring it and shaping it. Why couldn't we have joined the Empires Navy and earn rank if we wanted to? Why couldn't we have explored 0.0 and help the Jove (or compete against them?) Too many things the Devs forgot now with Allaince wars taking up the 'action'. You all think this is EVE. It wasn't at first. There was hope and a dream, and I can only hope someone will take what EVE started the first year and make it into that dream. This is not the EVE that we played in the begging...that much is true. Then again some games begin this way and take a shape the Devs never thought of.
DaHeaVYFo Gallente Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.10.23 22:26:00 - [42] Well some may miss the community back then, some of them were complaining that EVE was a mining-simulation. Especially about 3-4 months into the game on EVE-i Threads were going: "i got 100M isk, don't know what to spend it on." PvP had to be born fully, in the early days.
fisty RONA Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.23 23:06:00 - [43] love my tempest so much back in the days... 4x 1400 scout 4x arbalest heavy missile launchers with cruise missiles large c5-l shieldbooster 3 hardners and a heavy capacitor with 800 charges and in lows bloody 6 dmg mods YARRR rof of under 7s on those 1400mm back then hehe crazy dmg and crazy tank for the time ontop of that heavy drones was pure pwnage at the very beginning to evaid m0o's gatecamp u could activate ur mwd "on a thorax me at the time" while u were in warp, so right before coming out of warp activate it and u would be at max speed from the beginning and survive the camp... remember also the first person giving an insta in fd- to get into pf... i remember i was in my moa with a friend in his megathron and m0o were camping the gate in 2 megathrons... i nearly died several times trying to make a run for the gate than this guy shows up in local and sells me an insta for 1m, i didnt know if i could trust him but it worked during NVA wars against F-E "the corp" tps and others we would camp a planet as at the time u jumped in and you would appear at a planet not on the gates, we would lay mines "not in game anymore" all over the jump in point and wait patiently for the enemy to jump...realising they jumping in and somehow ending up at a different planet LOL was a big discussion calling in devs for exploit or hacks or what not hehe was brilliant fun oh good old times :) Ciao
Waxau Liberty Rogues Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.10.23 23:11:00 - [44] *Waxau remembers undocking in a bessy, clipping the station, and not having the ability to cancel warp back then.... Sorry btw to all those i jammed on the undocking port!!!!
dalman Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.10.23 23:30:00 - [45] Originally by: Princess Kuki 1 Was there a better sense of community and more people helping each other out back then? 2 Was there much pvp in the beginning? 3 Were there instantly loads of corps created just after eve went on sale or were there just a few corps that most people were in? Or was every1 still in noobiecorps? 4 Was also wondering what 0.0 station was the first ever to be taken :) if any1 knows? 1. Yes. When EVE was launched, there was an 18-years age limit, and most were newbies trying to help each other out. I guess you can figure out the impact of dropping the age-limit yourself. 2. Yes and no. People obviously had lots of PvE to do to gather resources for expensive blueprints while flying small ships. Agents hardly existed, biggest NPCs had 50k bounty. Mining was the only way to 'grind' isk (by selling minerals to NPCs at base price), using t1 miners with "no" skills, and haulers who had 5k cargo hold was leet. So it was much much harder to replace losses. However, ppl were "up for it" in another way than they are now. 3. TTI reached ~200 members within a month or something. Everlasting Vendetta then were the biggest corp with around 200 as well for some time. But yea, there were many small corps. 4. At launch, there were only NPC stations. First conquerable stations weren't introduced until after almost a year. 3 in each 0.0 region without NPC stations. At this time, there were no POS thingies etc, so taking a station was easy - just go there and shoot down the shields (which had much less HP). A station could switch owner-ship like 4 times during 24 hours in some cases. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Gungankllr Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.23 23:31:00 - [46] I remember my Moa getting utterly owned by a pair of Torpedo Blackbirds in 0.0- God that was a wakeup call. Hidden in this signature is a secret message. Send me isk, Caracals cost money.
Kenya	Posted - 2006.10.24 01:40:00 - [47] I remember seeing Devs ingame not just here from time to time. I also remember the Devs talking in the ingame channels giving us updates on things, things to come things that might happen, just things.
Kion Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.10.24 02:03:00 - [48] I remember mining in my Imacus in Sydicate and getting ganked by MOO. I was so mad a attacked in my new Ibis and discoverd clones You learned the hard way there were no tutorials or manuals, only experiance
MeLoveYouLoooongTime	Posted - 2006.10.24 02:30:00 - [49] I'm guessing in the first few weeks it was just like it is now... laggy, full of bugs, and almost unplayable
Frank Horrigan	Posted - 2006.10.24 02:49:00 - [50] I really miss those days..

Lifewire Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.10.24 02:58:00 - [51] Sad but true: EVE was better 3 years ago. The alliance and mission crap did the most damage.
Redwolf Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.24 03:11:00 - [52] Minefields at jump in points and Lifewire is right, it was better. Originally by: HippoKing Who cares if the game is coming up. Forums are back \o/
Redwolf Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.24 03:13:00 - [53] Originally by: MeLoveYouLoooongTime I'm guessing in the first few weeks it was just like it is now... laggy, full of bugs, and almost unplayable Oddly I don't remember it being laggy much back then, and i was on 56k at release... Originally by: HippoKing Who cares if the game is coming up. Forums are back \o/
xeom Veto.	Posted - 2006.10.24 03:15:00 - [54] Originally by: Lifewire Sad but true: EVE was better 3 years ago. The alliance and mission crap did the most damage. Wasn't here 3 years ago but i have to agree with the last part. --- CCP how about the pith X & A mods? "Those nuclear missiles are for domestic heating." - Scagga
Leno 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.24 03:27:00 - [55] Originally by: Lifewire Sad but true: EVE was better 3 years ago. The alliance and mission crap did the most damage. I would more say sov. and lvl 4 missions were the huge damaging parts along with the messed over priced t2 market cartels. Before then the game was about having fun and becoming powerful through your ability in the game where as now it relies more on luck, grinding and blobing --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.10.24 04:22:00 - [56] I miss the days before the highways, no they're not all gone. Looking For Ventrilo Hosting
Sabahl Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.24 08:46:00 - [57] And how can we forget 0.0 space in the heart of Empire?
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2006.10.24 09:06:00 - [58] Originally by: Sabahl And how can we forget 0.0 space in the heart of Empire? I can't. I got send 30+ jumps down to Devoid by my tutorial agent. Rarely saw anybody else around there. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
Raffael Ramirez Caldari Mentally Unstable Enterprises	Posted - 2006.10.24 10:54:00 - [59] PvP was more challenging back then not blobbing for 3 days it was more like the one who has balls and stays usually survives . Agents were pretty strange , only giving out missions every 15 minustes. Implants were the only way to get enough ISK in empire to buy a BS. ISK was worth more , a battleship made you a respected guy. 0.0 was pirate space . Pirates were reasonable and respected ppl back then . (i worked for them o.O) I never saw smacktalk (as you see it now). m0o were the heroes , even GMs/Devs paid attention to their work. Podding a GM was possible and not punished with a ban. The CCP crew/GMs always kept in touch with the ppl playing eve(help channel). Pirates used to help new players (help channel) CCP never gave you back your stuff and never cared about whiners. As i can say community was better those days ,most of em mature , reasonable players . No so many leet kiddies and WoW infested brains around. It was a pure and funny hobby , not just a game as it is today.
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.24 11:03:00 - [60] I spent a good time of my early days Mining for a BS making friends with anti-pirate hatred. Balance in PvP was laughable since you could take a battleship into armor easy 1 v 1 with a kestrel or breacher. Blackbirds and Thoraxes were some of the best pvp ships in EVE. 0.0 was empty. Miners got props for going to 0.0. Tank CEO added tons of comedy relief in Sarum Prime. Ore thieves were out of control. CFS had great space and m0o were some funny blokes. That was a good year... but I like EVE much more today. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats



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