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Gothikia
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.23 15:33:00 -
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Sharky has just said that testing will begin tommorow at 1PM here.
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:00:00 -
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Lots of !'s rushes to the server. -------------------- SoonÖ Copyright CCP. 90% of what I post is NOT to be takin in any serious way. |

Jongo Fett
Caldari Imperial Space Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:12:00 -
[3]
wish they did a mirror so i could test on it
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kieron

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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:21:00 -
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Yes, public testing of Kali on Singularity kicks off tomorrow at 1300 GMT. The most recent TQ mirror is 10 October. Initial testing will be limited to 300 users, this is so we can collect data without fear of crashing the server. Please keep in mind this is for testing and not a preview of the new features. Users not testing Kali can be kicked from the server to make room for others who will test.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |
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Gothikia
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:25:00 -
[5]
yeeaaah! stickeh! ♥ kieron
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Atrisha
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:30:00 -
[6]
Lol, Gothie strikes again.
Can't wait to test the new stuff! ___
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Laocoon
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:33:00 -
[7]
omgsex
- Lao
Veto. Corp |

Erikel
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:37:00 -
[8]
Woohooos!!
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:40:00 -
[9]
May the server gods be gentle. :)
--- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |

Skarsnik
Caldari A.W.M
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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:43:00 -
[10]
Kieron, Can I suggest that a list of items that require testing be listed somewhere. Especially if anything each particular day is under the watchful gaze of a Dev.
------------- EVE-CCG Pre-orders EVE-Ink Tattoo Project |

Gothikia
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:46:00 -
[11]
Will patch notes be released so we might get a hint on what to test out, aside from new stuff ofc to make sure it works.
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Lucian Corvinus
Gallente Expert Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Gothikia Will patch notes be released so we might get a hint on what to test out, aside from new stuff ofc to make sure it works.
YES please to what the nice looking lady asked for
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Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.10.23 17:04:00 -
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Edited by: Hllaxiu on 23/10/2006 17:16:33
Originally by: Skarsnik Kieron, Can I suggest that a list of items that require testing be listed somewhere. Especially if anything each particular day is under the watchful gaze of a Dev.
I think what they likely mean is that you should go about your "normal" routine as you would in TQ and point anything out thats greatly amiss.
For example, lets say you like to go ratting in your alliance's local -1.0 space. You go into the belts and start ratting and you don't see any ark. Bug report it! Then you go to the next belt and hit an officer! Pretty sweet huh, too bad you aren't this lucky on TQ! Next belt... Officer? Uh... bug report time! Or alternatively, maybe you go through all 30 belts and you don't even see a cruiser, let alone a 500k battleship - probably worthy of a bug report! Then you get back to station and try and refine the loot - you get fewer minerals than you should because its ignoring standings (or something) - guess what? Bug report!
At least I think this is what CCP wants. The alternative would be hanging out in whatever system they're going to use in syndicate/wherever for fightclub and typing "ZOMG I WANT A ROKH!!!!" in local over and over again until some bughunter comes along and blasts you with a titan superweapon followed by teh banhammer.
EDIT: That is not to say that they don't have a list of bugs to look into. They have people with the "Bug Hunter" tags to do that.  --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |

keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.23 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: keepiru on 23/10/2006 17:12:57 You're right, and its happened often that various changes have broken things that weren't directky related - remember when AB/MWDs weren't adding mass on activation and everyone on SISI was running around with oversized ABs like it was 2003? 
Still, a list of things that have been directly changed in one way or another would be good. ----------------
Please fix BC Sig/Agility! |

50freefly
Caldari Purify
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Posted - 2006.10.23 17:24:00 -
[15]
\O/
Great work guys, we'll get straight to blowing up bugtesters in the new sh... Err... I mean testing the contracts system and seamless map! Yeah, that's it.
P.S.- Yes, I know ships aren't immediately available for testing. It was a joke.
Originally by: Eight Ace For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right.
And they never meet.
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Drake Mezcal
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.23 17:26:00 -
[16]
Kieran or any other Dev,
Any chance of re-activating my Test server account, im actually looking forward to seeing how the latest tweeks work.
I not quite sure how it expired as i dont think i have ever let my main account expire.
Thanks
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Idara
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.23 17:47:00 -
[17]
Thank GOD!
WOOOOOOO!
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Trahern Twrgadarn
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Posted - 2006.10.23 17:49:00 -
[18]
You *******, got work until late, then it's a week away from eve.
Damn you all, damn you all to hell 
Quote: Creana > u`r momma is so fat , that BOB mistaken her for a region and claimed her
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2006.10.23 18:00:00 -
[19]
Burning Crusade > Kali *nuff said*
*runs off*
Unnerf Amarr!Ö "I read somewhere that Kali will be featuring turn-based combat to increase immersion." ¬ Waagaa Ktlehr
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries Serenity Fallen
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Posted - 2006.10.23 18:14:00 -
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Do the Devs have anything specific they want us to test, or is it simply "try to break the universe"?
Don't you think it would be more valueable if there was a schedule for testing specific things. For example, between 0:00 and 15:00 EvEtime, test POSes. From 15:00->20:00 test ECM and ECCM, from 20:00->23:59 test drones...
that sort of thing. Then the devs would get all this feedback regarding specific aspects.... they can fix/patch SISI, and then schedule a specific test later on for those fixes they have implimented... just a thought
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kieron

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Posted - 2006.10.23 18:19:00 -
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Testing rules and sequence will be posted tomorrow. Just going to have to wait until then. Sorry I don't have more information than that right now.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.23 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Burning Crusade > Kali *nuff said*
Nothing wrong with enjoying mindless bashing now and again. But it wont last. :)
--- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |

Blind Man
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.23 19:19:00 -
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300 people only :)
'GO GO GO! THE SERVER IS UP!!!1111'
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Treher
Minmatar Locust Syndicate Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.23 19:20:00 -
[24]
OH NO!
I reactivated my account on October 13! I won't be able to go onto SISI with an October 10th mirror!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! ______________________________________________________ I forget which station container has my memory implants. |

Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.10.23 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Yes, public testing of Kali on Singularity kicks off tomorrow at 1300 GMT. The most recent TQ mirror is 10 October. Initial testing will be limited to 300 users, this is so we can collect data without fear of crashing the server. Please keep in mind this is for testing and not a preview of the new features. Users not testing Kali can be kicked from the server to make room for others who will test.
*suddenly falls deathly 'ill'* *calls into work* Hi, uh, I can't come in, I'm sick... yes, sick... with what? Um... stomach ache, headache, raging and unstoppable <censored> of happiness from kali test... oh, wait, no... ok, I'll come in. grr.
And that's exactly what will happen tomorrow at 7AM. ---------------------------- Remember, killing a Goon isn't murder. They don't have souls. |

PKlavins
Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.23 20:00:00 -
[26]
since i wanna test...
how do i patch the test client? last patch that my test client has is cold war... ...2.10.3900...
COOKIES FOR MODS IN TEH UBAR SIGZ0R! first -eris |

Gone'Postal
Minmatar LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2006.10.23 20:08:00 -
[27]
I was 1st on this and you removed my post .... -------------------- SoonÖ Copyright CCP. 90% of what I post is NOT to be takin in any serious way. |

ollobrains
5th Front enterprises New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.10.23 20:51:00 -
[28]
ah so its a defined test atm probably in a central system ah well ill be there if i can get in doubt it but prolly if its kept up give it a go later on for testing stuff and hunting bugs
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END3R 101
Amarr Turbulent Subversion
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Posted - 2006.10.23 21:09:00 -
[29]
HMMM. So what of us that haven't been able to get on SiSi for months because of the 'Account Inactive' thing? My account hasnt been inactive for over a year. I'm told this is to do with me using GTCs. But can i get an activation?
Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes
Thanks for that. |

Daelin Blackleaf
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Posted - 2006.10.23 21:21:00 -
[30]
For those of us not willing to play the log-in lotto when will SiSi and Revelations likely be open for the rampaging hordes?
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Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.23 21:35:00 -
[31]
i would speculate a slow ramp up will be in order
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Mikal Drey
Angels and Demons
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Posted - 2006.10.23 22:01:00 -
[32]
hey hey
whats the difference between testing and previewing new features ?
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.23 22:06:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Mikal Drey hey hey
whats the difference between testing and previewing new features ?
One is fun  -----------------------------------------------
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Evelgrivion
Cohort. Storm Armada
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Posted - 2006.10.23 22:16:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Mikal Drey hey hey
whats the difference between testing and previewing new features ?
Testing means youre looking for problems deliberately
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Its Cohort. with a C. |

Keshi Linegod
Amarr Pod Squad Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.23 22:50:00 -
[35]
Originally by: kieron Yes, public testing of Kali on Singularity kicks off tomorrow at 1300 GMT. The most recent TQ mirror is 10 October.
Sweet, I reactivated my account like 5 days before that mirror. Cya all on SISI. -------------------------------------------------- Loyal servant of the Amarr empire. Why the hell an't my picture showing up....... |

Siege
Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2006.10.23 23:59:00 -
[36]
Testing would be, for instance, going from system to system and each one you get there you warp around and constantly scroll the new seamless map in and out, repeatedly, looking for inconsistancies of any type. For instance, does the map show you in the right system? Does it freeze/lag? Does it have any spots where the graphics get all funky? Can you stay in the map, jump to a new system, and have it update? or does it crash? What happens if you open a cyno, unzoom the map, and jump a few systems away in a capital ship? What if you are cloaked with the map open, and change systems, while trying to reload weapons, target the gate, launch drones, and somebody lights off a doomsday weapon, all at the same time?
For ship combat, it's repeatedly shooting your friends with different ammo to test out the resistances to make sure they match in the new ships. Also, plot out the damage done and see if it coincides with the stated bonus. Does the fitting shown in the item info screen match what you can do? I.E. does it say 4 turrets but you can fit 6? Can you repeatedly hit with artillery if your buddy is in a MWD interceptor circling you at 3000m?
Basically, you want to look closely at every little bit of detail in there to make sure it works as advertised with no ill effects or un-intended advantages. You're looking for problems in the code, which means you have to repeat the same things many, many times and trying to get as detail oriented as you can. Is everything spelled correctly? Does anything cause you to crash, if so, keep repeating it until you KNOW what causes it. Don't just randomly send in a bug report the first time something odd happens, make it happen again, and again, and again first. Try to figure out WHAT causes it as close as you can, THEN send in the bug report.
Think of it this way. Imagine putting in 'Super Mario Brothers' and having to play level 1-1 for 8 hours straight, and writing down everything that seems unusual or out of place. Then, you get a new version, and have to do it all again.
Welcome to good testing 101.
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Audrea
Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.10.24 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Siege Testing would be, for instance, going from system to system and each one you get there you warp around and constantly scroll the new seamless map in and out, repeatedly, looking for inconsistancies of any type. For instance, does the map show you in the right system? Does it freeze/lag? Does it have any spots where the graphics get all funky? Can you stay in the map, jump to a new system, and have it update? or does it crash? What happens if you open a cyno, unzoom the map, and jump a few systems away in a capital ship? What if you are cloaked with the map open, and change systems, while trying to reload weapons, target the gate, launch drones, and somebody lights off a doomsday weapon, all at the same time?
For ship combat, it's repeatedly shooting your friends with different ammo to test out the resistances to make sure they match in the new ships. Also, plot out the damage done and see if it coincides with the stated bonus. Does the fitting shown in the item info screen match what you can do? I.E. does it say 4 turrets but you can fit 6? Can you repeatedly hit with artillery if your buddy is in a MWD interceptor circling you at 3000m?
Basically, you want to look closely at every little bit of detail in there to make sure it works as advertised with no ill effects or un-intended advantages. You're looking for problems in the code, which means you have to repeat the same things many, many times and trying to get as detail oriented as you can. Is everything spelled correctly? Does anything cause you to crash, if so, keep repeating it until you KNOW what causes it. Don't just randomly send in a bug report the first time something odd happens, make it happen again, and again, and again first. Try to figure out WHAT causes it as close as you can, THEN send in the bug report.
Think of it this way. Imagine putting in 'Super Mario Brothers' and having to play level 1-1 for 8 hours straight, and writing down everything that seems unusual or out of place. Then, you get a new version, and have to do it all again.
Welcome to good testing 101.
Yup, thats the diffrence between checking out new features people would want to do, and do real tests for bugs. ------------------ Save Tranquility!  |

FlameWrath
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Posted - 2006.10.24 01:35:00 -
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Edited by: FlameWrath on 24/10/2006 01:35:41 NOOOO!!!!! My Account was reactivated the 11th. Damnit 
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darklegionca
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Posted - 2006.10.24 01:39:00 -
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finaly you call it Revelations god i told you once you start calling it that it would come people ------------------------------------ darklegionca - One name. One legend. |

Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.24 01:48:00 -
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quick question folks does anyone have the link for the test patch - how big is it likley to be (rumoured 550MB download ie clean install)
When will it be available if they go at 1300 i assume patch around 0700
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mazzilliu
Caldari Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.10.24 05:08:00 -
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Edited by: mazzilliu on 24/10/2006 05:08:11 is there any chance of a mirror?
i only ask because my sisi character has less then half the sp my tq character has, and cant use many modules
edit: WOO HOO \o/ btw
    
I'M IN YOUR SYSTEMS. I'M KILLING YOUR MANS!!! |

Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.24 06:38:00 -
[42]
ive ketp training my skills on SISI so even with no mirror im good but that said i wont really be affected either way looking forward to testing and bug hunting it
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Traxman
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Posted - 2006.10.24 08:00:00 -
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Sounds great, but is there a new client to down ? Try to have a dev setuped directory where i run such stuff off, or its auto patch from the client, and please, a list of stuff that we primary should test so we know!
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Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.24 10:02:00 -
[44]
no patch yet ... waiting
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Ithildin
Gallente The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.24 11:09:00 -
[45]
Well, two hours until a patch had better be out /me looks slightly threatening. - What am I listening to? |

FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.10.24 11:13:00 -
[46]
Remember to read the sticky in the Game Development forum; explains all about submitting bug reports, attaching logserver.exe logs, and DXDiag reports.
What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass! |

Gothikia
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.24 11:30:00 -
[47]
* Gothikia waits impatiently for the patch...
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.24 11:32:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Gothikia * Gothikia waits impatiently for the patch...
I've got a cup of tea, a good book and lots of stored-up patience... ----------------
Please fix BC Sig/Agility! |

Hectaire Glade
Amarr Forum Jockey
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Posted - 2006.10.24 11:53:00 -
[49]
Hi ho, hi Ho, its off-home-sick i go, see you on there!
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Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.24 12:07:00 -
[50]
sickie hey if its 550MB as predicted will take 5 hours to download for most 256k users. Ill download and goto bed
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NightWolfe
Caldari Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.10.24 12:39:00 -
[51]
waiting patiently
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Darknesss
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.10.24 12:43:00 -
[52]
lemme on
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Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.24 12:46:00 -
[53]
kali pathc here http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/test/evepatch25245-26098_test.exe
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord kali pathc here http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/test/evepatch25245-26098_test.exe
It hasnt been confirmed its the right one. And people who have applied it cant log in and get errors. So I would be careful. It might be the right one, but it could also mean you will sit there trying to find a 26098->26099 patch that doesnt exist later on...
--- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |

Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.24 13:09:00 -
[55]
got 2 SISI folders a backup one just in case
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Idara
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.24 13:21:00 -
[56]
Lemmeeeeeee onnnnnnn!!!
I wannaaaaa test Kaliiiiiiiiii
/whine off

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Vanlade
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:11:00 -
[57]
Relax, we are going to have years to enjoy those new features.
- Vanlade
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Maestro Ulv
Phaze-9
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Posted - 2006.10.24 16:34:00 -
[58]
crap shots i know, but its what i was interested in most, scuse swearing, the map excited me far more than was good for me!
http://phaze9.moonmanstudio.com/evepics/kali/
I'm not bored, I'm merely in the Queue. |

Torquemanda Corteaz
Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:09:00 -
[59]
wheres the patch zomgz the sky falling omgwtfbbq
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Culmen
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:15:00 -
[60]
Hummm 132 players on 409 players in que
this could take a while....
also werent there supposed to be 300 slots? _____________________________________________________
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Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.24 20:52:00 -
[61]
300 lagged to much reduced t0 200 now looks like 150 with 500 ppl waiting to get on
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Constantinee
Caldari PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2006.10.24 21:10:00 -
[62]
now that rev is on sisi is there anychance that we would have a release date for kali on tq by the middle of november at the latest?
Want a Cheap sig? |

Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:17:00 -
[63]
december is the goal
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Constantinee
Caldari PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2006.10.24 23:29:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Miss Overlord december is the goal
oh yes i know that im asking if they will announce an official release date by mid november.
Want a Cheap sig? |

Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.25 03:25:00 -
[65]
40 days from today puts it in december
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Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.25 04:30:00 -
[66]
Everyone log off sisi so I can log in. thx
Click above for my killboard stats. |

Now Mary
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:16:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Miss Overlord 40 days from today puts it in december
Hehe, thats clever but I think you miss the point. He's asking if come mid-november, will CCP have an idea of the launch date?
Yeah I know, it's a useless question.
If you are reading a post by this character, it's probably because I'm too lazy to select my main. Try not to lose any sleep over it, mkay? |

Harisdrop
Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.25 12:47:00 -
[68]
They want a couple weeks of testing.
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Culmen
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:14:00 -
[69]
humm the sever seems down i went from #60 in line to #???? in line
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Doppleganger
Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.26 02:06:00 -
[70]
Nice it keeps ppl waiting.. I hope someone is getting some testing done. I waited from #423 in queue to #1 in queue then tried to log in and it gave me some kind of error and set me #355 in queue. 
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Ima Nutta
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Posted - 2006.10.26 10:44:00 -
[71]
Is there any real point to having the test server available? I thought CCP wanted people to actually test this patch? I waited paitiently in line yesterday from #469 in the queue to finally log on, and what happens? The cluster disapears, or so the client said. 5 hours of mission running, macro tormenting, thumb twiddling, and the occasional check to see the ETA vary between 2 minutes and 12 hours 
But seriously, what is the purpose of asking for our help to test a patch, and not providing the means for us to do so. I'd happily fill out bug reports as I find the bugs, but I think a real test system might be...well...a pre-requisite?
mkay?
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