Guurel
Caldari
Asgard Schiffswerften
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.26 19:30:00 -
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The lack of team work was from the begining Solwolf, and you of all people should know that. By the time even the Yakuza situation had happend the RISE situation was far too far out of hand. [...]
QFT.
Normally i simply ignore threads that are developing in the direction the current theread is but as i am also concerned with this issue i just can't ignore it this time.
Siggy pretty much pointed out the essentials. As ex-minister of the Interior and ex-RISE Diplomat i saw the lack of teamwork in RISE from day one. It allways took ages for the so called council to decide on any issue and it was very annoying sometimes. Well i continued as long as i could and also the many good mates from former NORAD and FOUNTAIN (they know who i mean with that) did great work at that time. But the merger was kinda doomed from the begining. At first it seemed like a clever thing to merge 2 alliances that had a long friendly history to cover all timezones but the differences in opinions regarding how to run an alliance were to big... NORAD as said before, at that time, was like a family. Everyone knew his mates and their reliability, we all worked for NORAD and not our own corps primarily. I thought, as FA arrived and RISE was formed, we could overcome these differences but i was mistaken. So slowly many ex-NORAD guys i knew for a long time got dissatisfied with RISE, including myself (i remember countless issues about the XZH plex and RISE members acting like they were in kindergarden still). Then came Outbreak and seriously, the participation of former FA mebers in RISE gangs was miserable (as said before that might have been a timezone problem, i can only speak from my mostly euro-time experience), but hey, they did not threaten our sovereighnity (which at that point was held by ONLY ex-NORAD corps including TOA,CHON, PMCO mostly with participation of 1 FA corp: REZ). Well that changed later as YW attacked us but it could have happened a lot earlier if the council would have been able to decide on something (and the lack of decision finding was mostly because of Fountain peeps denying most suggestions without bringing in their own... I said mostly NOT only). It was allready too late for RISE at that point. The decision to leave RISE was made long before the POS spamming in XZH for most NORAD corps (at least i know that for YAK, CHON and TOA - my ex-corp). At that time i was even reluctant to log in with all the **** going on in council and nothing happening at all. For many mates in RISE it might have appeared so that the NORAD corps left because they did not want to fight but believe me that is not correct... and I have to admit it was a rather 'suboptimal' time of leaving, but the decision was made long before.
Before my corp left RISE however came the decision to follow my good RL friends Kmacross and Schneiderr to D2 and i found that i could enjoy eve again with the ASW guys shooting random people in the south :)
To sum it up: RISE failed because of differing opinions about nearly everything and the false pride of some old FA AND NORAD guys. I am really ashamed of some of you guys talking bad about your ex alliances mates now.
Because TOA is my ex-corp and was like a family for me nearly my whole eve-life i cannot stand them being denounced here. I know what they did for RISE and what effort they put in it (at least at the begining and regarding the settlement of CR).
I hope you get over it, stop insulting each other and find the fun in eve again.
Wow.. i like to think that this is a quiet 'objective' story of my RISE-experiences, no further flaming intended i just HAD to write this even if I may have repeated something that was said earlier in this thread ... :P
Btw I <3 you all guys, ex-NORAD and ex-RISE :)
Thanks for reading !
/guu
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