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Solwolf
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Posted - 2006.10.23 20:23:00 -
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I thought about so many things I could say to you Shivaja, but I'm not going to dignify this with a response. I'll just see you on the battlefield.
Good luck and have fun.
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Solwolf
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Garia666
Edited by: Garia666 on 24/10/2006 08:57:10
well nice to see there are good fights being held somewhere else
Dont you believe it. This is RISE we are talking about ... if you think RA is bad... good fights indeed...
The ironic thing about this post is that I don't recall seeing you in or near Outer Ring at all. I'm guessing that you guys are mostly European. Most of RISE right now is in the US Timezone. This is ironic because Chon, TOA and company seem to be mostly European Timezone. Anyway, sorry I missed you. If you come around when I'm around I'll try to give you some fun.
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Solwolf
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:03:00 -
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Seeing how BOB is supporting the ex-NORAD people, it's good to see that I'm on the right side of this conflict. Thank you for the endorsement.
So what was the deal that the ex-NORAD guys gave to BOB over the 10/10 complex in A2V? I'm curious to know. It's been obvious for some time that there is a deal so don't try to deny it. It's something to the effect that BOB gets the 10/10 complex in order for NORAD to exist right? That with the fact that Outer Ring is a pretty crappy region that BOB didn't really want.
I don't understand why BOB is so eager to endorse Chon either since aren't they saying in effect that they defeated you? I don't recall FA saying that the defeated BOB at any time. Besides FA is gone, this is RISE now, another animal.
And Skelator, I somehow doubt that the Imperium Alliance approves of your message. I have a lot of personal respect for you though. It seems Chon is saying that they defeated the Imperium Alliance, but really wasn't it BOB that caused Imperium to leave Outer Ring? I don't understand why Imperium would be so eager to jump on the Chon bandwagon here.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not.
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Solwolf
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:20:00 -
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Schiender,
I don't understand why you'd take Chon's side when D2 is allied with us. We have a NAP with YouWhat too. Not only that YouWhat is hostile to Chon. Your support for Chon seems to be misplaced. Maybe you should go talk to your friends a bit.
Besides, you have evidence that I'm wrong? Isn't anyone curious why BOB allowed NORAD to have Outer Ring so easily? Why do you think they did that?
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Solwolf
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Posted - 2006.10.26 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nalrath Tolahnia
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1. >90% of the logistics, your kidding right, which corps had the majority of the soverignty claiming POS's in CR - ToA/CHON/PMCO, with additions from other corps in XZH (GREYC, Cavemen, Ned-Clan, Rez, Jazz etc), RISE lost G8 and 9-4 (or should have) because of your incompetence of not ensuring remaining corps had erected POS's and set them claiming soverignty, and that a fleet was ready to retake the station, you had plenty of warning, hell when people tried to organise an alliance fund or reserve pool for POS's, fuel etc, who yelled all plans down, oh yeah Rilewedge and co. Worked out well for you didnt it.
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Dude you're the clueless one. In the end with funding from BIG and REZ, REZ corp had the vast majority of RISE POS there at around 40. Chon and TOA put up 3 at the most. I have access to all of the council information. I don't see where Rilewedge blocked any initiative for the alliance to contribute to this. YouWhat in the end fielded 41 Large POS and were fielding capital ship fleets. Dhan asked for the alliance to chip in for this effort too. Very few corps bothered to chip in much.
I'm not even going to bother countering all your points one by one. Frankly my dear I just don't give a damn. You clearly don't know wtf you're talking about.
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Solwolf
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Posted - 2006.10.26 17:27:00 -
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Okay, it seems I need to apologize. I sometimes say things that I don't really mean, I'm human.
First, I didn't mean to make anti-NORAD comments. I liked NORAD a lot. I miss the old days when we were all friends. I'd like to see that again. I was disappointed when I arrived in Outer Ring though to find that NORAD had not really controlled the 10/10 complex in A2V for whatever reason. That's where my feelings about NORAD changed some. I do still respect the old NORAD alliance and I'm sorry I said anything bad about them.
Second some peoples comments about the lack of teamwork from the former Fountain Alliance corps also irritated me greatly. When Yakuza Corp left the alliance there was a coucil vote that allowed them access to our ingame military alliance channel. It appears the vote didn't come soon enough for Yakuza Corp though. They made a post on our forums stating that they'd set most of the former NORAD corporations to +10 while the rest would be neutral. Since Yakuza Corp had an NBSI policy and they didn't really answer the question of whether they'd fire on RISE pilots this angered quite a few people. The next thing I know there are posts from RISE members saying that they would never fire on Yakuza Corp to support another RISE member. Some even went so far as to create a Yakuza Corp fan club. That's not my definition of teamwork. Many people that made these comments and created the fan club left shortly after this, which is fine. However, I'm sure there are many other examples of teamwork that can be cited and perhaps the former NORAD corps can teach me a thing or two about, I'm open to that and would welcome it.
Ask people in RISE, but I have said that I'd be sick to fight some of these corps because I consider them friends. However it seems my friends goals and our goals are contradictory. We have to fight until we can either be friends again or until they leave. Again I didn't mean to make this an anti-NORAD deal because it's not. Win or lose, I wish you guys the best.
Sincerely,
Solwolf
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Solwolf
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Posted - 2006.10.26 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: SigmaPi
The lack of team work was from the begining Solwolf, and you of all people should know that. By the time even the Yakuza situation had happend the RISE situation was far too far out of hand.
As for logistics... say what you want, but i dont recall BIG stepping up in cloud ring when we were in need of battleships... the all mighty BIG industrial corp from hell with a slong the size of a walrus... turns out they dont have any participation in the alliance... In fact, the only time I recall seeing a BIG player was in empire, and the only time they spoke their voice was on the forums.
I am personally offended by some of the remarks from Dhan and Solwolf and others, but I know its a game... I know we just want to have fun... right? Or is that just a scape goat so you guys can feel better about what you say? It may be a game, but we are real people on the other side. PMCO may not have been a huge player in the grand sceem, but we had 1/5 of the sov claiming deathstars, we were producing the most, making the most effort, involved in the most things possible... and we are still getting bashed. I dont understand: there were people who I appreciated in FA, i really did, but all they care about is themselves. I did everything in my power to change the situations that caused the untimely break down of RISE, but no one (from Rez, BIGAA, BIG ... ect...) would listen to either my suggestions or others to fix the problems. I think you all know that I'm not one to flame or be overly agressive... but, I just thought I would let you know that I feel personally offended by what you RISE members have been saying here.
Well I don't agree with you obviously. Thank you for sharing your opinion though. You're welcome to discuss it with me ingame if you wish.
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Solwolf
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Posted - 2006.10.26 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: SigmaPi
thanks for letting me know where i stand solwolf... I'm glad to know that friendship is only skin deep. My corp did nothing to offend you, and (asside from the one incedent where neather party acted mature) we have never done anything contrary to the best effort we could muster.
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Wow you need to ask Talidorn about the old official RISE web page and what he's done with it.  You guys are still blue though so don't sweat it. 
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Solwolf
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Posted - 2006.10.26 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
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If your a diplomat or representative for RISE then omg are they doomed...
Dont write sh1te like this, ppl can express their oppinions on these forums regardless of which alliance they belong to.
Oh and D2 is not FA with crap like posting fines.
I still can remember the incredible arrogance and stupidity of the very old FA leadership back in the times when CE was in that alliance.
Seems to me that not alot has changed...
Well I'm not a diplotmat. I'm speaking my own opinions as well.  I'll try to keep my posts more diplomatic. I didn't mean to offend.
Convo or message me ingame if you wish to dicuss it further please.
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Solwolf
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Posted - 2006.10.26 20:34:00 -
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Well I and some corps in my former alliance would run the complexes in Fountain as much as we could regardless of whether or not it drew the ire of BOB. We were fighting them as much as could anyway so it didn't matter. I was disappointed in that it appeard NORAD had given up on it. Maybe I'm wrong, if so I apologize.
Attempting to insult people in an attempt to win an argument makes it seem that you don't have a logical argument to begin with. Calling me dumb doesn't support your argument at all.
I would prefer to be friends and talk things out, but it seems some just want to fight. Either way is cool with me. I'd prefer to discuss this ingame from now on. This forum bashing stuff is stupid.
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